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Even though we have quite a few members listed on the front page, I think it'd be good to see who's "really here." So just leave your name and what you've been up to. :)
Hello! We at the Work via WikiProjects team for Wikipedia 1.0 would like you to identify the " key articles" from your project that should be included in a small CD release due to their importance, regardless of quality. We will use that information to assess which articles should be nominated for Version 0.5 and later versions. Hopefully it will help you identify which articles are the most important for the project to work on. As well, please add to the Musical Theatre WikiProject article table any articles of high quality. If you are interested in developing a worklist such as this one for your WikiProject, or having a bot generate a worklist automatically for you, please contact us. Please feel free to post your suggestions right here. Thanks! Walkerma 05:10, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
When the title of the musical is mentioned throughout the article about the musical, should it just appear Capitalized, Italicized, Bolded, "In quotes", or what? I've noticed that many articles have been lacking in consistency and often jump around all these options at whim. I know this is such a stupid insignificant little matter, but I have OCD and it's driving me batty and I want to settle the matter once and for all. I'm leaning towards Italicized or maybe even just Capitalized, but that's just my ungrounded preference. What do you all think? -- Drenched 02:14, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
Right, I think the first time you use it, it should be: The Fantasticks is a musical by.... Thereafter, it should just be The Fantasticks. -- Ssilvers 04:06, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
Not sure if this is the proper place, but something needs to be done about the title of Webber's Cats throughout the article. A decision needs to be made whether it is all caps or not.
MichaelCaricofe
05:33, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
Looks like we've got the pages for musicals, at least, somewhat full. I assume we start assessing now? Any particular guidelines, or should we start brainstorming them? Crystallina 23:32, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
This probably isn't the right place to post (but article assessment's own discussion board seems a bit dead compared to here!) but here goes anyway. Do you guys think it'd be a good idea to have each article assessed by more than one editor to promote consistency in rating? I know that assessing that massive list of musicals just once is already a rather daunting task & this is probably a stretch, but I'm just throwing that out there. P.S. I made a new article, jukebox musical, but it sucks right now, so please help fix it! Thanks. -- Drenched 02:59, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
There have been two propositions made about the finalization of both the infobox template and the Article Structure page. Each of the Propositions has been made on the respective talk page but I've decided to post links to them here as they are both very important decisions and discussions. Please read each of them thoroughly and add your comments or votes.
-- omtay38 06:10, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
Nothing will draw more attention to this project than getting a Featured Article. Of course, that takes time and dedicated effort. Both of which we're capable of providing. Let's choose a few articles to seriously work on, improve, expand. The first goal is Good Article status.
Any suggestions? I have a few in mind but won't push them until I get group input. Crystallina 16:48, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
I have spent that last couple of months adding info to Wikipedia on early British musicals and operettas from the 1870s to about 1920. There is now an article or stub on every musical and operetta from that period that ran for at least 400 performances in London (except for a few revues). BTW, London was a much hotter venue for musicals than NY during that period. See the introduction to this list of longest running plays in London and New York. I also added articles on most of the important British composers, writers and lyricists for musicals of the period (and some Americans) and producers, such as Lionel Monckton, Ivan Caryll, Edward Solomon, Sidney Jones Frank Osmond Carr, Alfred Cellier Paul Rubens (composer) and their lyricists and other collaborators (like Harry Greenbank, Percy Greenbank, Owen Hall, Basil Hood, Adrian Ross, B. C. Stephenson, and Henry Pottinger Stephens), as well as managers, like George Edwardes Seymour Hicks, Robert Evett and George Grossmith, Jr. and performers like Lily Elsie, Marie Tempest, Gertie Millar, Hayden Coffin, Louie Pounds, Courtice Pounds, Harry Grattan, Edna May, etc.
Here is a list of some musicals of the period: Morocco Bound, A Gaiety Girl, The Shop Girl, The French Maid, An Artist's Model, The Circus Girl, The Belle of New York, A Runaway Girl, The Geisha, A Greek Slave, Florodora, The Messenger Boy, The Toreador, San Toy, A Chinese Honeymoon, A Country Girl, The Girl from Paris (1897), My Lady Molly, The Girl from Kays, The Orchid, The Earl and the Girl, The Cingalee, The Catch of the Season, The White Chrysanthemum, The Girl Behind the Counter, The New Aladdin (1906), Miss Hook of Holland, The Spring Chicken (1905), The Girls of Gottenberg (1907), Our Miss Gibbs, The Arcadians (musical), The Balkan Princess, The Chocolate Soldier, The Quaker Girl, The Girl from Utah, Chu Chin Chow, The Maid of the Mountains, The Boy.
If you look at the Category for British Musicals, you will see more new articles and stubs. In many cases, I have put links at the bottom of the articles that should lead you to more online information, such as links to song lists, cast lists and synopses. This site also has a heap of information about these works. Please expand these if you can. As for the articles on the composers and their collaborators, I have taken those as far as I can, so if you have further references and interest, please polish those up. Happy editing! -- Ssilvers 03:50, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
I'm assuming and/or hoping none of you have any objections to me proposing getting rid of {{ musical-theat-stub}} at WP:WSS. Honestly, it's just jamming up the organization there. What I'm proposing is to put theatre bios in one category, actual theatre structures in another, plays in another, and possibly musicals as a child of plays. If anyone has any objections, speak up now either here or there. The truth is, though, that the way it is right now is just horribly disorganized and it's hard to tell what goes where. Crystallina 02:53, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
I don't know if it's within the scope of this project, but there are some issues with the IBDB external link templates. Before today, there were three templates, Template:ibdb name for people, Template:ibdb venue for theatres, and Template:ibdb title for shows. The problem with the Ibdb title template is that it actually links to the productions query. So if a show has had multiple productions, this will end up linking only to a particular production. I created Template:ibdb show which goes to the show query. Even if a show has only one production, there are different numbers for the show and for the title queries. So it would not be easy to simply switch from one template to the other. I think it would make sense if there was an ibdb production template which would operate like the title one does now, and if everything that uses the title template now migrated to the ibdb show template. One advantage of the current use of the ibdb title template, however, is that the page you arrive at has information about the production, whereas the show template has only information about a particular show. -- Larrybob 21:34, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
Two things of interest:
-- omtay38 23:19, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
Your new category series on musicals by year points to musical which is a disambiguation page . I don't know for sure where you want it to point musical theatre or musicals(or even musical film but I think not) I don't know how to fix it either. I'm focussing my mild obsession with disambiguation musical among a few others so it would save an old woman's hair if one of you good people who know how could fix it. Argyll Lassie 16:18, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
Hi, I've been posting questions about infoboxes in other less-used discussion pages but haven't heard anything back, so I'm repeat-posting here:
Sorry, I need some clarification/hand-holding! =P -- Drenched 23:20, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
Might as well check up with each other about things. I've been creating a few articles - mainly short start/stubs, but still - for previously redlinked musicals and actors/actresses. A list can be seen on my userpage - it isn't organized yet, I should really do that. Crystallina 15:55, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
I am continuing to put up articles and stubs for older British musicals, composers, lyricists, librettists and actors from 1890 to about World War I. -- Ssilvers 16:52, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
I'm curious about the scope of two categories: [Category:Broadway musical] and [Category:Broadway play] -- should each contain only notable shows, or exhaustive lists of all examples within the category that have articles? I've also been updating and correcting random stuff here and there. MichaelCaricofe 06:51, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
An anonymous editor recently added more to the intro of the Musical theatre article about what is a musical and how to distinguish it from opera. I don't think that it helps the article to begin with this rather long discussion of what a musical is or isn't and the difficulty of defining it. Why not start out with a relatively short and snappy definition, and put the discussion of the difficulty of defining exactly what a musical is lower down under the table of contents? Opinions? -- Ssilvers 18:07, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
Based on the discussion above, it appears that Show Boat is a pretty good candidate for the WikiProject to try and improve to FA. It should also spur some activity. It hasn't been peer reviewed yet. I think it should be. Any objections? Crystallina 23:05, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
Recently The Pirate Queen opened for it's pre-Broadway run in Chicago. The Wiki page entitled to the musical has not been edited since before it opened several months ago. I am sure you all have much better things to do, but having seen the musical now I would very much like to tweak the page a bit and add a plot summary, as well as fix Stephanie J. Block's page so that she can have some credit for her role. I would personally take on the project myself. All I need is a say so from you guys! WickedWitchoftheWest 10:03, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
I watched the musical recently in Chicago, and added a plot summary myself since I saw it hadn't been done yet. I also cleaned up some of the rest of the article and added some more info. Please feel free to review. Cheers. -- E. Nichols 07:46, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
The Musical Theatre Project Aricle guideline ( Wikipedia:WikiProject Musical Theatre/Article Structure) says that if the synopsis lists musical numbers, then you don't need a separate list of musical numbers. Since most musicals have an overture and entr'acte, I don't think we'll miss these, and they don't really add much info. Are all the other major numbers mentioned? As to the synopsis, yes, I would rewrited any quoted passages in your own words, and then delete the reference to Playbill. Regards, -- Ssilvers 15:11, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
Hello. The WikiProject Council is currently in the process of developing a master directory of the existing WikiProjects to replace and update the existing Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory. These WikiProjects are of vital importance in helping wikipedia achieve its goal of becoming truly encyclopedic. Please review the following pages:
and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope to have the existing directory replaced by the updated and corrected version of the directory above by November 1. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 21:49, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
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Do we have a portal? Crystallina 04:25, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
It's too bad that the project is so inactive. People are updating individual musicals' articles from time to time, but they're not joining the project, and the guys who were so gung-ho last summer seem to have dropped out. Maybe if we added assessment tags to the articles it would draw interest? I don't have the technical ability to do it, but I'm talking about an assessment tag like we have on the G&S articles--see the Iolanthe talk page, for instance. -- Ssilvers 05:44, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 16:10, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
I was browsing some musicals, and something that would have been really helpful is a list of required roles for the play, and their importance. I'm sorry that I don't have the available time to join this project, but I am making this suggestion because I believe it will contribute to the overall quality of musical theatre articles. 69.19.14.36 00:17, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
Many of the articles on musicals do have a list of roles or characters. The plot synopsis should make it clear which roles are the most central to the shows. -- Ssilvers 05:47, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
I looked up Camelot hoping to find a nice, concise summary of the plot line. Rather than that, the entire article is an unsourced rant about how hard it was to produce and that it broke up Lerner & Lowe and killed Moss Hart! Please, can somebody familiar with the play help bring this article up to Wikipedia standards? My local community theatre is producing it between now and April and I would expect many of the attendees as well as cast members will be looking to Wikipedia for some background on this classic. Thanks! Estreya 17:27, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
There is a heated discussion on the Wicked talk page discussing how the synopsis is ridiculously long and horribly too revealing of the play. There is even probably some copyright infringement. I request permession to clean it up, delete some things, and give it a nice, short overveiw. WickedWitchoftheWest 16:48, 16 March 2007
The following 2 articles appear to be talking about the same thing:
Can somebody try to merge them? I would myself if I had more info about this Germain musical, but I don't. Thank you very much.-- Endroit 00:50, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
I created this article this evening. Someone wanna take a look at it and assess it for me? -- DrGaellon ( talk | contribs) 22:54, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
User:SFTVLGUY2 routinely deletes synopses from WP Musicals articles. He also cuts out headings, infoboxes, character lists, cast information, external links and other information and puts the background and production information, together with a one-paragraph description of the plot, into a long, unbroken introduction. I have referred him to the guidelines at WP:LEAD or in our article structure guidelines, Wikipedia:WikiProject Musical Theatre/Article Structure, both of which were developed by a WP:CONSENSUS of editors. For examples, see his edits to:
I believe that this is a serious problem and will continue to add to this list if he continues to delete information from Musicals articles. Best regards, -- Ssilvers 15:25, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
Please note the interesting discussion at Talk:New Girl in Town. -- Ssilvers 16:05, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
If there is anyone reading this page who is good at writing "fair use" rationales for images, there are a number of images in danger of being deleted, including Wizard of Oz images. Please see the warnings at User talk:SFTVLGUY2. Can anyone save them? I'm a bit technologically challenged. Best regards, -- Ssilvers 15:31, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
This page is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Even though we have quite a few members listed on the front page, I think it'd be good to see who's "really here." So just leave your name and what you've been up to. :)
Hello! We at the Work via WikiProjects team for Wikipedia 1.0 would like you to identify the " key articles" from your project that should be included in a small CD release due to their importance, regardless of quality. We will use that information to assess which articles should be nominated for Version 0.5 and later versions. Hopefully it will help you identify which articles are the most important for the project to work on. As well, please add to the Musical Theatre WikiProject article table any articles of high quality. If you are interested in developing a worklist such as this one for your WikiProject, or having a bot generate a worklist automatically for you, please contact us. Please feel free to post your suggestions right here. Thanks! Walkerma 05:10, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
When the title of the musical is mentioned throughout the article about the musical, should it just appear Capitalized, Italicized, Bolded, "In quotes", or what? I've noticed that many articles have been lacking in consistency and often jump around all these options at whim. I know this is such a stupid insignificant little matter, but I have OCD and it's driving me batty and I want to settle the matter once and for all. I'm leaning towards Italicized or maybe even just Capitalized, but that's just my ungrounded preference. What do you all think? -- Drenched 02:14, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
Right, I think the first time you use it, it should be: The Fantasticks is a musical by.... Thereafter, it should just be The Fantasticks. -- Ssilvers 04:06, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
Not sure if this is the proper place, but something needs to be done about the title of Webber's Cats throughout the article. A decision needs to be made whether it is all caps or not.
MichaelCaricofe
05:33, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
Looks like we've got the pages for musicals, at least, somewhat full. I assume we start assessing now? Any particular guidelines, or should we start brainstorming them? Crystallina 23:32, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
This probably isn't the right place to post (but article assessment's own discussion board seems a bit dead compared to here!) but here goes anyway. Do you guys think it'd be a good idea to have each article assessed by more than one editor to promote consistency in rating? I know that assessing that massive list of musicals just once is already a rather daunting task & this is probably a stretch, but I'm just throwing that out there. P.S. I made a new article, jukebox musical, but it sucks right now, so please help fix it! Thanks. -- Drenched 02:59, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
There have been two propositions made about the finalization of both the infobox template and the Article Structure page. Each of the Propositions has been made on the respective talk page but I've decided to post links to them here as they are both very important decisions and discussions. Please read each of them thoroughly and add your comments or votes.
-- omtay38 06:10, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
Nothing will draw more attention to this project than getting a Featured Article. Of course, that takes time and dedicated effort. Both of which we're capable of providing. Let's choose a few articles to seriously work on, improve, expand. The first goal is Good Article status.
Any suggestions? I have a few in mind but won't push them until I get group input. Crystallina 16:48, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
I have spent that last couple of months adding info to Wikipedia on early British musicals and operettas from the 1870s to about 1920. There is now an article or stub on every musical and operetta from that period that ran for at least 400 performances in London (except for a few revues). BTW, London was a much hotter venue for musicals than NY during that period. See the introduction to this list of longest running plays in London and New York. I also added articles on most of the important British composers, writers and lyricists for musicals of the period (and some Americans) and producers, such as Lionel Monckton, Ivan Caryll, Edward Solomon, Sidney Jones Frank Osmond Carr, Alfred Cellier Paul Rubens (composer) and their lyricists and other collaborators (like Harry Greenbank, Percy Greenbank, Owen Hall, Basil Hood, Adrian Ross, B. C. Stephenson, and Henry Pottinger Stephens), as well as managers, like George Edwardes Seymour Hicks, Robert Evett and George Grossmith, Jr. and performers like Lily Elsie, Marie Tempest, Gertie Millar, Hayden Coffin, Louie Pounds, Courtice Pounds, Harry Grattan, Edna May, etc.
Here is a list of some musicals of the period: Morocco Bound, A Gaiety Girl, The Shop Girl, The French Maid, An Artist's Model, The Circus Girl, The Belle of New York, A Runaway Girl, The Geisha, A Greek Slave, Florodora, The Messenger Boy, The Toreador, San Toy, A Chinese Honeymoon, A Country Girl, The Girl from Paris (1897), My Lady Molly, The Girl from Kays, The Orchid, The Earl and the Girl, The Cingalee, The Catch of the Season, The White Chrysanthemum, The Girl Behind the Counter, The New Aladdin (1906), Miss Hook of Holland, The Spring Chicken (1905), The Girls of Gottenberg (1907), Our Miss Gibbs, The Arcadians (musical), The Balkan Princess, The Chocolate Soldier, The Quaker Girl, The Girl from Utah, Chu Chin Chow, The Maid of the Mountains, The Boy.
If you look at the Category for British Musicals, you will see more new articles and stubs. In many cases, I have put links at the bottom of the articles that should lead you to more online information, such as links to song lists, cast lists and synopses. This site also has a heap of information about these works. Please expand these if you can. As for the articles on the composers and their collaborators, I have taken those as far as I can, so if you have further references and interest, please polish those up. Happy editing! -- Ssilvers 03:50, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
I'm assuming and/or hoping none of you have any objections to me proposing getting rid of {{ musical-theat-stub}} at WP:WSS. Honestly, it's just jamming up the organization there. What I'm proposing is to put theatre bios in one category, actual theatre structures in another, plays in another, and possibly musicals as a child of plays. If anyone has any objections, speak up now either here or there. The truth is, though, that the way it is right now is just horribly disorganized and it's hard to tell what goes where. Crystallina 02:53, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
I don't know if it's within the scope of this project, but there are some issues with the IBDB external link templates. Before today, there were three templates, Template:ibdb name for people, Template:ibdb venue for theatres, and Template:ibdb title for shows. The problem with the Ibdb title template is that it actually links to the productions query. So if a show has had multiple productions, this will end up linking only to a particular production. I created Template:ibdb show which goes to the show query. Even if a show has only one production, there are different numbers for the show and for the title queries. So it would not be easy to simply switch from one template to the other. I think it would make sense if there was an ibdb production template which would operate like the title one does now, and if everything that uses the title template now migrated to the ibdb show template. One advantage of the current use of the ibdb title template, however, is that the page you arrive at has information about the production, whereas the show template has only information about a particular show. -- Larrybob 21:34, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
Two things of interest:
-- omtay38 23:19, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
Your new category series on musicals by year points to musical which is a disambiguation page . I don't know for sure where you want it to point musical theatre or musicals(or even musical film but I think not) I don't know how to fix it either. I'm focussing my mild obsession with disambiguation musical among a few others so it would save an old woman's hair if one of you good people who know how could fix it. Argyll Lassie 16:18, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
Hi, I've been posting questions about infoboxes in other less-used discussion pages but haven't heard anything back, so I'm repeat-posting here:
Sorry, I need some clarification/hand-holding! =P -- Drenched 23:20, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
Might as well check up with each other about things. I've been creating a few articles - mainly short start/stubs, but still - for previously redlinked musicals and actors/actresses. A list can be seen on my userpage - it isn't organized yet, I should really do that. Crystallina 15:55, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
I am continuing to put up articles and stubs for older British musicals, composers, lyricists, librettists and actors from 1890 to about World War I. -- Ssilvers 16:52, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
I'm curious about the scope of two categories: [Category:Broadway musical] and [Category:Broadway play] -- should each contain only notable shows, or exhaustive lists of all examples within the category that have articles? I've also been updating and correcting random stuff here and there. MichaelCaricofe 06:51, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
An anonymous editor recently added more to the intro of the Musical theatre article about what is a musical and how to distinguish it from opera. I don't think that it helps the article to begin with this rather long discussion of what a musical is or isn't and the difficulty of defining it. Why not start out with a relatively short and snappy definition, and put the discussion of the difficulty of defining exactly what a musical is lower down under the table of contents? Opinions? -- Ssilvers 18:07, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
Based on the discussion above, it appears that Show Boat is a pretty good candidate for the WikiProject to try and improve to FA. It should also spur some activity. It hasn't been peer reviewed yet. I think it should be. Any objections? Crystallina 23:05, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
Recently The Pirate Queen opened for it's pre-Broadway run in Chicago. The Wiki page entitled to the musical has not been edited since before it opened several months ago. I am sure you all have much better things to do, but having seen the musical now I would very much like to tweak the page a bit and add a plot summary, as well as fix Stephanie J. Block's page so that she can have some credit for her role. I would personally take on the project myself. All I need is a say so from you guys! WickedWitchoftheWest 10:03, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
I watched the musical recently in Chicago, and added a plot summary myself since I saw it hadn't been done yet. I also cleaned up some of the rest of the article and added some more info. Please feel free to review. Cheers. -- E. Nichols 07:46, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
The Musical Theatre Project Aricle guideline ( Wikipedia:WikiProject Musical Theatre/Article Structure) says that if the synopsis lists musical numbers, then you don't need a separate list of musical numbers. Since most musicals have an overture and entr'acte, I don't think we'll miss these, and they don't really add much info. Are all the other major numbers mentioned? As to the synopsis, yes, I would rewrited any quoted passages in your own words, and then delete the reference to Playbill. Regards, -- Ssilvers 15:11, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
Hello. The WikiProject Council is currently in the process of developing a master directory of the existing WikiProjects to replace and update the existing Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory. These WikiProjects are of vital importance in helping wikipedia achieve its goal of becoming truly encyclopedic. Please review the following pages:
and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope to have the existing directory replaced by the updated and corrected version of the directory above by November 1. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 21:49, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
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Do we have a portal? Crystallina 04:25, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
It's too bad that the project is so inactive. People are updating individual musicals' articles from time to time, but they're not joining the project, and the guys who were so gung-ho last summer seem to have dropped out. Maybe if we added assessment tags to the articles it would draw interest? I don't have the technical ability to do it, but I'm talking about an assessment tag like we have on the G&S articles--see the Iolanthe talk page, for instance. -- Ssilvers 05:44, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 16:10, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
I was browsing some musicals, and something that would have been really helpful is a list of required roles for the play, and their importance. I'm sorry that I don't have the available time to join this project, but I am making this suggestion because I believe it will contribute to the overall quality of musical theatre articles. 69.19.14.36 00:17, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
Many of the articles on musicals do have a list of roles or characters. The plot synopsis should make it clear which roles are the most central to the shows. -- Ssilvers 05:47, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
I looked up Camelot hoping to find a nice, concise summary of the plot line. Rather than that, the entire article is an unsourced rant about how hard it was to produce and that it broke up Lerner & Lowe and killed Moss Hart! Please, can somebody familiar with the play help bring this article up to Wikipedia standards? My local community theatre is producing it between now and April and I would expect many of the attendees as well as cast members will be looking to Wikipedia for some background on this classic. Thanks! Estreya 17:27, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
There is a heated discussion on the Wicked talk page discussing how the synopsis is ridiculously long and horribly too revealing of the play. There is even probably some copyright infringement. I request permession to clean it up, delete some things, and give it a nice, short overveiw. WickedWitchoftheWest 16:48, 16 March 2007
The following 2 articles appear to be talking about the same thing:
Can somebody try to merge them? I would myself if I had more info about this Germain musical, but I don't. Thank you very much.-- Endroit 00:50, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
I created this article this evening. Someone wanna take a look at it and assess it for me? -- DrGaellon ( talk | contribs) 22:54, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
User:SFTVLGUY2 routinely deletes synopses from WP Musicals articles. He also cuts out headings, infoboxes, character lists, cast information, external links and other information and puts the background and production information, together with a one-paragraph description of the plot, into a long, unbroken introduction. I have referred him to the guidelines at WP:LEAD or in our article structure guidelines, Wikipedia:WikiProject Musical Theatre/Article Structure, both of which were developed by a WP:CONSENSUS of editors. For examples, see his edits to:
I believe that this is a serious problem and will continue to add to this list if he continues to delete information from Musicals articles. Best regards, -- Ssilvers 15:25, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
Please note the interesting discussion at Talk:New Girl in Town. -- Ssilvers 16:05, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
If there is anyone reading this page who is good at writing "fair use" rationales for images, there are a number of images in danger of being deleted, including Wizard of Oz images. Please see the warnings at User talk:SFTVLGUY2. Can anyone save them? I'm a bit technologically challenged. Best regards, -- Ssilvers 15:31, 23 May 2007 (UTC)