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This is the start of WikiProject Biophysics, initially sponsored by the Early Careers Committee, the Education Committee, and the incoming president (Jane Richardson, User:Dcrjsr) of the Biophysical Society and with expert help from User:Phoebe, but hoping to attract much more general and international participation and feedback. Dcrjsr ( talk) 18:45, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
Is this an independent wikiproject? If so, WikiProject Biology is not really a parent but a related wikiproject. RockMagnetist ( talk) 01:59, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
I have added this WikiProject to the directory in the Biology section. At some point we may also want to put a notice in the Signpost that the WikiProject has been created. RockMagnetist ( talk) 18:06, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
As I've told WP:GLASS in the past, here's a little roadmap you can find useful.
There are a bots to help with this task. So to save yourselves some work you should build a list of categories and subcategories that should be tagged with {{ WP Biophysics}}. The categories doesn't need to be "100% clean", as long as it contains articles that could be of interest to WP Biophysics. But don't pick something like Category:Books because one in 100 millions will be about a biophysics-related topics. Also decide if you want a taskforce (for example, a biography taskforce, for Biophysicists).
After you do this, you can get bots to tag the articles based on category membership and automatically assess them (for quality, importance remains untouched) based on the already present templates from the other Wikiprojects (if possible). The next step should be to review the assessments (preferably starting with FA, then FL, then A, then GA, then B, etc. in descending order) to make sure that these are actually related to this project, and that the B class articles are actually up to B class standards, etc.
Doing things in this order will save you a lot of work, believe me. Headbomb { talk / contribs / physics / books} 19:41, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
Once the basic stuff is dealt with, you should start recruiting some people:
Headbomb { talk / contribs / physics / books} 19:45, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
Sorry for not taking part in your recruitment event (I had to run to poster session which is the most important part of such meetings). If I had to share my experience and offer some advice for newbies, here is the most important part of it:
{{
cite journal}}
: Explicit use of et al. in: |author=
(
help)) is all very sound however.
Headbomb {
talk /
contribs /
physics /
books}
16:47, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
Dcrjsr and JeremyBlock are working together on creating a new article on macromolecular structure validation. So far it's just in sandbox territory, but wanted to let other folks know in case they're also interested. Dcrjsr ( talk) 02:59, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
We appreciate your feeling it was ready to go live. However, one problem we'd meant to resolve before that was how to rename it to Structure validation (macromolecular), with a hatnote or eventually a disambiguation page. Most people who want this article will search using just "structure validation", and with the current title they don't get there at all directly. But many of the hits are to XML schema validation, which may eventually want its own page, and some are to mechanical engineering. Does anyone have advice on the most robust and feasible way to accomplish this? Dcrjsr ( talk) 14:50, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
One reason not to jump the gun in future is that it makes it difficult to nominate articles for DYK. RockMagnetist ( talk) 16:08, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
I've been extensively rewriting and expanding the biography article on Fred Richards, which was originally in pretty bad shape. Since I have never done any assessment myself, and don't really have any feel at all about what the different quality class descriptions actually mean in practice, I'd really appreciate some feedback from those of you who understand the process better. We'll need such knowledge as the WikiProject goes forward. Thanks in advance for whatever people can do! Dcrjsr ( talk) 00:23, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
Headbomb's request has been filled and we have about 800 automatically rated articles in this project. I have created an Assessment department where you can find the table of article assessments. RockMagnetist ( talk) 05:00, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
I'm going to be submitting DNA nanotechnology for a second FAC in the next couple of days, and I'd appreciate it if you could take a look and let me know if you have any feedback before I start the process. Thanks! Antony–22 ( talk⁄ contribs) 21:45, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
Portal:Xray Crystallography, a portal in which you may be interested, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Xray Crystallography and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Portal:Xray Crystallography during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 17:12, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
The WikiProject Report would like to focus on WikiProject Biophysics for a Signpost article. This is an excellent opportunity to draw attention to your efforts and attract new members to the project. Would you be willing to participate in an interview? If so, here are the questions for the interview. Just add your response below each question and feel free to skip any questions that you don't feel comfortable answering. Multiple editors will have an opportunity to respond to the interview questions, so be sure to sign your answers. If you know anyone else who would like to participate in the interview, please share this with them. Have a great day. –Mabeenot ( talk) 18:07, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
And how do I enter competition? Sevendigits ( talk) 08:22, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
There is no such things as Tertiary hydrogen bond and Secondary hydrogen bond. There is just Hydrogen bond. Delete both articles? What do you think? My very best wishes ( talk) 20:32, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
I discovered that there is a WikiProject Organismal Biomechanics. It's a bit small (covering 241 pages) and might make sense as a task force within this WikiProject. Should we approach them with the idea? RockMagnetist ( talk) 18:44, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
I would like to submit a request to have DodoBot tag and/or automatically assess articles for our WikiProject, as explained here. Feel free to raise any questions or concerns regarding this suggestion. I will assume there is consensus for the task if there are no objections in a week. RockMagnetist ( talk) 02:44, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
{{
WikiProject Physics|taskforce=Biophys}}
, or perhaps {{
WikiProject MCB|taskforce=Biophys}}
? Either way is easy enough to implement, but it's best to decide on this early on, and to do so before involving bots.
Headbomb {
talk /
contribs /
physics /
books}
19:11, 27 February 2012 (UTC)Here's a crude list of all the subcategories of Category:Biophysics that could possibly make sense to include. However I'm not a biophysicist, and I didn't pay a lot of attention while build the list, so some review is needed before submitting this list to bots.
Just remove the stuff that doesn't make sense to tag, then you can submit the list to a bot operator. Headbomb { talk / contribs / physics / books} 21:22, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
I have added a link on the project page to recent changes to biophysics articles. This link follows changes to any articles listed in Index of biophysics articles (which I just created), so this list should be kept up to date. RockMagnetist ( talk) 22:10, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
For the less experienced Wikipedians, I should add that a watchlist like this is a great resource for fighting vandalism. Have a look at it occasionally! RockMagnetist ( talk) 22:13, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
We're doing some heavy discussion on the article Non-helical models of nucleic acid structure, and we'd really appreciate some help from someone familiar with topoisomerases and/or bacterial chromosome replication. Please see Talk:Non-helical models of nucleic acid structure#Balancing information needed. Thanks! Antony–22 ( talk⁄ contribs) 04:49, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
Recently, a picture of Rosalind Franklin was removed from List of biophysicists because copyright restrictions only allow it to be used in her article. I tried to replace her picture with another of a female biophysicist, only to discover that she is the only woman the list. Are there any Wikipedia articles on women that should be in the list? Ae there any female biophysicists that should have articles and don't? RockMagnetist ( talk) 18:45, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
The article on Hal Anger is provided with several good sources, but very little use is made of them. Instead, there is a lot of information on patenting of a device that is given undue weight (see also Hal Anger#Unbalanced). This would make a good project for someone. RockMagnetist ( talk) 17:49, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
The article on Ariel Fernandez has been tagged for possible conflict of interest. It is written by employees of a company run by Fernandez, and lacks independent sources. The main contributor has already removed the tags once and I have restored them (see User_talk:Arifer#Notices in Ariel Fernandez). If anyone independent of Fernandez can add appropriate sources, they would help to address both issues. RockMagnetist ( talk) 16:46, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
I'd like to reduce the number of redlinks in the Foresight Institute Feynman Prize in Nanotechnology awardees list. Being that there's a biophysics editing contest coming up here, I've listed the more biophysics-related awardees below, in case any of you are looking for suggesions for articles to write.
Thanks! Antony–22 ( talk⁄ contribs) 20:59, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
Do specific genes belong in this project? For example, the biophysics content in CLCN5 seems limited to the fact that it encodes an ion channel. Is that enough to merit inclusion in this project? RockMagnetist ( talk) 05:19, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
Hi. I'm currently working on an bot that creates on-wiki copies of Svick's cleanup lists. I've been using your project's list for testing, so I'm curious what you think of it. The list can be found at User:HhhipBot/Cleanup listing/Biophysics. The main motivation for having this list on-wiki is that it can be watchlisted and that article links are internal (that is, protocol-neutral). Additional features are that each section can be individually transcluded, and several ways to find new or recently resolved issues. Comments or suggestions are welcome! — HHHIPPO 12:18, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
I've archived some inactive threads to subsections which were notifications about discussions that have since been closed. — Cirt ( talk) 22:00, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
The notes from the session are available at Wikipedia:WikiProject Biophysics/Biophysics wiki-edit contest/BPS 2014 session. -- Daniel Mietchen ( talk) 01:29, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
I'm delighted to say that the Royal Society, the UK’s National Academy for science, is offering 24 Wikipedians free access for one year to its prestigious range of scientific journals. Please note that much of the content of these journals is already freely available online, the details varying slightly between the journals – see the Royal Society Publishing webpages. For the purposes of this offer the Royal Society's journals are divided into 3 groups: Biological sciences, Physical sciences and history of science. For full details and signing-up, please see the applications page. Initial applications will close on 25 May 2014, but later applications will go on the waiting list. Wiki at Royal Society John ( talk) 03:13, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
FYI, "Outline of biophysics" has been requested to be renamed to Biophysical techniques; for the discussion, see talk:Outline of biophysics -- 65.94.169.222 ( talk) 08:49, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
Hello there! As you may already know, most WikiProjects here on Wikipedia struggle to stay active after they've been founded. I believe there is a lot of potential for WikiProjects to facilitate collaboration across subject areas, so I have submitted a grant proposal with the Wikimedia Foundation for the "WikiProject X" project. WikiProject X will study what makes WikiProjects succeed in retaining editors and then design a prototype WikiProject system that will recruit contributors to WikiProjects and help them run effectively. Please review the proposal here and leave feedback. If you have any questions, you can ask on the proposal page or leave a message on my talk page. Thank you for your time! (Also, sorry about the posting mistake earlier. If someone already moved my message to the talk page, feel free to remove this posting.) Harej ( talk) 22:47, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
Hello everyone!
You may have received a message from me earlier asking you to comment on my WikiProject X proposal. The good news is that WikiProject X is now live! In our first phase, we are focusing on research. At this time, we are looking for people to share their experiences with WikiProjects: good, bad, or neutral. We are also looking for WikiProjects that may be interested in trying out new tools and layouts that will make participating easier and projects easier to maintain. If you or your WikiProject are interested, check us out! Note that this is an opt-in program; no WikiProject will be required to change anything against its wishes. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thank you!
Note: To receive additional notifications about WikiProject X on this talk page, please add this page to Wikipedia:WikiProject X/Newsletter. Otherwise, this will be the last notification sent about WikiProject X.
Harej ( talk) 16:56, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
We were subscribed to WikiProject X newsletters by someone who is not listed as a participant of this WikiProject. I have taken the liberty of unsubscribing us and removing the newsletters. However, they can easily be restored if participants want them. RockMagnetist( talk) 23:04, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
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This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 1 | Archive 2 |
This is the start of WikiProject Biophysics, initially sponsored by the Early Careers Committee, the Education Committee, and the incoming president (Jane Richardson, User:Dcrjsr) of the Biophysical Society and with expert help from User:Phoebe, but hoping to attract much more general and international participation and feedback. Dcrjsr ( talk) 18:45, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
Is this an independent wikiproject? If so, WikiProject Biology is not really a parent but a related wikiproject. RockMagnetist ( talk) 01:59, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
I have added this WikiProject to the directory in the Biology section. At some point we may also want to put a notice in the Signpost that the WikiProject has been created. RockMagnetist ( talk) 18:06, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
As I've told WP:GLASS in the past, here's a little roadmap you can find useful.
There are a bots to help with this task. So to save yourselves some work you should build a list of categories and subcategories that should be tagged with {{ WP Biophysics}}. The categories doesn't need to be "100% clean", as long as it contains articles that could be of interest to WP Biophysics. But don't pick something like Category:Books because one in 100 millions will be about a biophysics-related topics. Also decide if you want a taskforce (for example, a biography taskforce, for Biophysicists).
After you do this, you can get bots to tag the articles based on category membership and automatically assess them (for quality, importance remains untouched) based on the already present templates from the other Wikiprojects (if possible). The next step should be to review the assessments (preferably starting with FA, then FL, then A, then GA, then B, etc. in descending order) to make sure that these are actually related to this project, and that the B class articles are actually up to B class standards, etc.
Doing things in this order will save you a lot of work, believe me. Headbomb { talk / contribs / physics / books} 19:41, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
Once the basic stuff is dealt with, you should start recruiting some people:
Headbomb { talk / contribs / physics / books} 19:45, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
Sorry for not taking part in your recruitment event (I had to run to poster session which is the most important part of such meetings). If I had to share my experience and offer some advice for newbies, here is the most important part of it:
{{
cite journal}}
: Explicit use of et al. in: |author=
(
help)) is all very sound however.
Headbomb {
talk /
contribs /
physics /
books}
16:47, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
Dcrjsr and JeremyBlock are working together on creating a new article on macromolecular structure validation. So far it's just in sandbox territory, but wanted to let other folks know in case they're also interested. Dcrjsr ( talk) 02:59, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
We appreciate your feeling it was ready to go live. However, one problem we'd meant to resolve before that was how to rename it to Structure validation (macromolecular), with a hatnote or eventually a disambiguation page. Most people who want this article will search using just "structure validation", and with the current title they don't get there at all directly. But many of the hits are to XML schema validation, which may eventually want its own page, and some are to mechanical engineering. Does anyone have advice on the most robust and feasible way to accomplish this? Dcrjsr ( talk) 14:50, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
One reason not to jump the gun in future is that it makes it difficult to nominate articles for DYK. RockMagnetist ( talk) 16:08, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
I've been extensively rewriting and expanding the biography article on Fred Richards, which was originally in pretty bad shape. Since I have never done any assessment myself, and don't really have any feel at all about what the different quality class descriptions actually mean in practice, I'd really appreciate some feedback from those of you who understand the process better. We'll need such knowledge as the WikiProject goes forward. Thanks in advance for whatever people can do! Dcrjsr ( talk) 00:23, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
Headbomb's request has been filled and we have about 800 automatically rated articles in this project. I have created an Assessment department where you can find the table of article assessments. RockMagnetist ( talk) 05:00, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
I'm going to be submitting DNA nanotechnology for a second FAC in the next couple of days, and I'd appreciate it if you could take a look and let me know if you have any feedback before I start the process. Thanks! Antony–22 ( talk⁄ contribs) 21:45, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
Portal:Xray Crystallography, a portal in which you may be interested, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Xray Crystallography and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Portal:Xray Crystallography during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. ··· 日本穣 ? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 17:12, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
The WikiProject Report would like to focus on WikiProject Biophysics for a Signpost article. This is an excellent opportunity to draw attention to your efforts and attract new members to the project. Would you be willing to participate in an interview? If so, here are the questions for the interview. Just add your response below each question and feel free to skip any questions that you don't feel comfortable answering. Multiple editors will have an opportunity to respond to the interview questions, so be sure to sign your answers. If you know anyone else who would like to participate in the interview, please share this with them. Have a great day. –Mabeenot ( talk) 18:07, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
And how do I enter competition? Sevendigits ( talk) 08:22, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
There is no such things as Tertiary hydrogen bond and Secondary hydrogen bond. There is just Hydrogen bond. Delete both articles? What do you think? My very best wishes ( talk) 20:32, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
I discovered that there is a WikiProject Organismal Biomechanics. It's a bit small (covering 241 pages) and might make sense as a task force within this WikiProject. Should we approach them with the idea? RockMagnetist ( talk) 18:44, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
I would like to submit a request to have DodoBot tag and/or automatically assess articles for our WikiProject, as explained here. Feel free to raise any questions or concerns regarding this suggestion. I will assume there is consensus for the task if there are no objections in a week. RockMagnetist ( talk) 02:44, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
{{
WikiProject Physics|taskforce=Biophys}}
, or perhaps {{
WikiProject MCB|taskforce=Biophys}}
? Either way is easy enough to implement, but it's best to decide on this early on, and to do so before involving bots.
Headbomb {
talk /
contribs /
physics /
books}
19:11, 27 February 2012 (UTC)Here's a crude list of all the subcategories of Category:Biophysics that could possibly make sense to include. However I'm not a biophysicist, and I didn't pay a lot of attention while build the list, so some review is needed before submitting this list to bots.
Just remove the stuff that doesn't make sense to tag, then you can submit the list to a bot operator. Headbomb { talk / contribs / physics / books} 21:22, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
I have added a link on the project page to recent changes to biophysics articles. This link follows changes to any articles listed in Index of biophysics articles (which I just created), so this list should be kept up to date. RockMagnetist ( talk) 22:10, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
For the less experienced Wikipedians, I should add that a watchlist like this is a great resource for fighting vandalism. Have a look at it occasionally! RockMagnetist ( talk) 22:13, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
We're doing some heavy discussion on the article Non-helical models of nucleic acid structure, and we'd really appreciate some help from someone familiar with topoisomerases and/or bacterial chromosome replication. Please see Talk:Non-helical models of nucleic acid structure#Balancing information needed. Thanks! Antony–22 ( talk⁄ contribs) 04:49, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
Recently, a picture of Rosalind Franklin was removed from List of biophysicists because copyright restrictions only allow it to be used in her article. I tried to replace her picture with another of a female biophysicist, only to discover that she is the only woman the list. Are there any Wikipedia articles on women that should be in the list? Ae there any female biophysicists that should have articles and don't? RockMagnetist ( talk) 18:45, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
The article on Hal Anger is provided with several good sources, but very little use is made of them. Instead, there is a lot of information on patenting of a device that is given undue weight (see also Hal Anger#Unbalanced). This would make a good project for someone. RockMagnetist ( talk) 17:49, 26 September 2012 (UTC)
The article on Ariel Fernandez has been tagged for possible conflict of interest. It is written by employees of a company run by Fernandez, and lacks independent sources. The main contributor has already removed the tags once and I have restored them (see User_talk:Arifer#Notices in Ariel Fernandez). If anyone independent of Fernandez can add appropriate sources, they would help to address both issues. RockMagnetist ( talk) 16:46, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
I'd like to reduce the number of redlinks in the Foresight Institute Feynman Prize in Nanotechnology awardees list. Being that there's a biophysics editing contest coming up here, I've listed the more biophysics-related awardees below, in case any of you are looking for suggesions for articles to write.
Thanks! Antony–22 ( talk⁄ contribs) 20:59, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
Do specific genes belong in this project? For example, the biophysics content in CLCN5 seems limited to the fact that it encodes an ion channel. Is that enough to merit inclusion in this project? RockMagnetist ( talk) 05:19, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
Hi. I'm currently working on an bot that creates on-wiki copies of Svick's cleanup lists. I've been using your project's list for testing, so I'm curious what you think of it. The list can be found at User:HhhipBot/Cleanup listing/Biophysics. The main motivation for having this list on-wiki is that it can be watchlisted and that article links are internal (that is, protocol-neutral). Additional features are that each section can be individually transcluded, and several ways to find new or recently resolved issues. Comments or suggestions are welcome! — HHHIPPO 12:18, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
I've archived some inactive threads to subsections which were notifications about discussions that have since been closed. — Cirt ( talk) 22:00, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
The notes from the session are available at Wikipedia:WikiProject Biophysics/Biophysics wiki-edit contest/BPS 2014 session. -- Daniel Mietchen ( talk) 01:29, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
I'm delighted to say that the Royal Society, the UK’s National Academy for science, is offering 24 Wikipedians free access for one year to its prestigious range of scientific journals. Please note that much of the content of these journals is already freely available online, the details varying slightly between the journals – see the Royal Society Publishing webpages. For the purposes of this offer the Royal Society's journals are divided into 3 groups: Biological sciences, Physical sciences and history of science. For full details and signing-up, please see the applications page. Initial applications will close on 25 May 2014, but later applications will go on the waiting list. Wiki at Royal Society John ( talk) 03:13, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
FYI, "Outline of biophysics" has been requested to be renamed to Biophysical techniques; for the discussion, see talk:Outline of biophysics -- 65.94.169.222 ( talk) 08:49, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
Hello there! As you may already know, most WikiProjects here on Wikipedia struggle to stay active after they've been founded. I believe there is a lot of potential for WikiProjects to facilitate collaboration across subject areas, so I have submitted a grant proposal with the Wikimedia Foundation for the "WikiProject X" project. WikiProject X will study what makes WikiProjects succeed in retaining editors and then design a prototype WikiProject system that will recruit contributors to WikiProjects and help them run effectively. Please review the proposal here and leave feedback. If you have any questions, you can ask on the proposal page or leave a message on my talk page. Thank you for your time! (Also, sorry about the posting mistake earlier. If someone already moved my message to the talk page, feel free to remove this posting.) Harej ( talk) 22:47, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
Hello everyone!
You may have received a message from me earlier asking you to comment on my WikiProject X proposal. The good news is that WikiProject X is now live! In our first phase, we are focusing on research. At this time, we are looking for people to share their experiences with WikiProjects: good, bad, or neutral. We are also looking for WikiProjects that may be interested in trying out new tools and layouts that will make participating easier and projects easier to maintain. If you or your WikiProject are interested, check us out! Note that this is an opt-in program; no WikiProject will be required to change anything against its wishes. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thank you!
Note: To receive additional notifications about WikiProject X on this talk page, please add this page to Wikipedia:WikiProject X/Newsletter. Otherwise, this will be the last notification sent about WikiProject X.
Harej ( talk) 16:56, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
We were subscribed to WikiProject X newsletters by someone who is not listed as a participant of this WikiProject. I have taken the liberty of unsubscribing us and removing the newsletters. However, they can easily be restored if participants want them. RockMagnetist( talk) 23:04, 17 August 2015 (UTC)