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We need to get {{ WikiProject Military history}} added to the talk page of (almost) every article in Category:Soldiers and its many sub-categories (and probably on the category pages themselves). I'll try to do some of this, but I'm stretched somewhat thin at the moment, so I'd really appreciate any help. — Kirill Lokshin 19:44, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
I have done survey of the articles relating to Artillery and they are a mess. We have multiple articles dealing with the same subject under "Naval Gunfire" "Naval Artillery" "Naval Gunfire Support" etc. Additionally, Field Artillery (capitalized) is an article about US Army Field Artillery whereas field artillery (not capitalized) is an article on the subject in general etc etc. There seem to be a bunch of merges and moves that would be appropriate. I have tagged a few, but not all. Input on the discussion boards on those articles would certainly be helpful.-- Counsel 04:44, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
The campaignbox review is basically complete. Using the numbers from the end of January, we have:
This last category includes a number of empty and redundant campaignboxes that I'll be placing on WP:TFD shortly, as well as some that don't use the standard {{ Campaign}} formatting and need to be fixed. Aside from that, the major issues are:
Any help with the three points above would be appreciated, as would any general feedback on this. — Kirill Lokshin 00:22, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
Hey guys! I'm trying to mediate a discussion on Flag of Western Sahara, with mixed success. I already posted this at WP:RFC/P, but was hoping I might get some additional interested people here. There has been an ongoing argument at Flag of Western Sahara about the name of the flag.
Western Sahara is a region claimed by Morocco and a government in exile of indigenous people, the Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic. Both parties control a portion of the territory and both claim the whole of it. The flag is the flag flown by SADR, but it is generally known as the "Flag of Western Sahara", mainly because Morocco does not recognise the term Western Sahara (calling it Moroccan Sahara), so there is no other flag which also might bear the name. There have been extensive discussions about comparisons with Flag of Tibet, and Flag of Taiwan, but up until now no conclusion.
To break the stalemate, a vote has been proposed here, and I would very much appreciate any and every input. The more the merrier!
Thanks and greets, The Minist e r of War (Peace) 09:07, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
The following definitions come from Joint Publication 1-02, the U.S. Department of Defense Dictionary of Military and Associated Terms. Their use could make a strong move towards article standardization.
Ready Reserve), for not more than 270 days to meet the support requirements of any operational mission. Members called under this provision may not be used for disaster relief or to suppress insurrection. This authority has particular utility when used in circumstances in which the escalatory national or international signals of partial or full tailored, limited-scope, deterrent, or operational response, or may be used as a precursor to any subsequent mobilization. Also called PRCA. See also Individual Ready Reserve; mobilization; Presidential Callup; Selected Reserve. (JP 3-57)
Abbreviations
SSG Cornelius Seon (Retired) 22:36, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
Some of these are very Ameri-centric, particularly stuff like "battle honour" which is similar in concept in the Commonwealth forces but applied differently. Also stuff like brigade and regiment will never be standardized between the two systems so there is little need for that. "Active duty" is not a term used in Canada either. We may be better just to stroke out terms that are not "universal" and go from there. Michael Dorosh 20:39, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
This subject is a mess at the moment. There has been a brief discussion about the problem under Talk:Strategic bombing during World War II#talk and in that conversation (last comment 23 August 2005) the following overlapping articles were identified in what is probably not a full list:
See also military aviation which has a template for merging it into Aerial warfare which has a history section which pulls in some of the above articles.
The whole area needs sorting out. I hope someone who reads this is willing to take on such a large project. -- Philip Baird Shearer 13:28, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
File:Crest300 copy.jpg | |
Motto | Duty • Honor • Country |
---|---|
Type | Federal military academy |
Established | 1802 |
Superintendent | Lt. Gen. William J. Lennox, Jr. |
Undergraduates | 4,000 |
Location | , , |
Campus | 16,080 acres (65 km²) |
Athletics | 25 varsity teams, called "Black Knights" |
Colors | Black █, Gray █, and Gold █ |
Website | www.usma.edu |
SSG Cornelius Seon (Retired) 20:20, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
Is there an infobox to list a series of related wars? For example, 1st through 4th Macedonian wars? One can adapt the Campaignbox, but this is really supposed to be used for battles of a specific war. In some cases, all battles of all related wars are listed like this, but would it not be better to restrict the battles to a single war, and have an additional infobox linking the related wars? - Vedexent 21:46, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
I know - I've adpated it to the Macedonian Wars myself. I guess it's possible to use two campaign boxes - one for the war's battles, and one for the related wars. I guess in the abscence of other options I'll just do that :) - Vedexent 22:29, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
Just an idea that I think would be helpful: How about an icon as part of the Battlebox (I know it has been replaced - can't place the name of the replacement at the moment) indicating the type of battle - land, naval, air, etc. Say... an anchor, a plane silloutte, crossed swords, or whatever would convey the idea quickly? - Vedexent 00:25, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
FA-22 | |
---|---|
| |
Class | Stealth Fighter |
Crew | 1 |
Length | 62 ft |
Wingspan | 44 ft |
Height | 16 ft |
Wing area | 480 ft² |
Weight (Empty) | 31,670 lb |
Weight (Loaded) | 60,000 lb |
Maximum Takeoff | 80,000 lb |
Powerplant | 2× Pratt & Whitney F119-PW-100 |
Max Speed | Mach 2.0+ |
Cruising Speed | Mach 1.5+ |
Range | 2000 miles |
Service Ceiling | 65,000 ft |
Rate of Climb | ft/min |
Wing Loading | 96 lb/ft² |
Thrust/Weight | 1:1.27 |
Guns | 1× 20 mm Gatling gun |
Rockets | ? |
Missiles | 6× AIM-120C AMRAAM, 2× AIM-9 Sidewinder |
Bombs | 2× 1000 lb JDAM, 20x 250 lb Small Diameter Bombs |
I've created a fully-functioning infobox for Military aircraft.
Blank fields do not appear. It is highly flexible. Please leave suggestions on the template's TALK PAGE. -- Killioughtta
I'm not sure if veterans' organizations, such as the Southern Historical Society should be part of our project or not. Either way, if anyone would like to help edit that article, it would be appreciated. -- Habap 15:32, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
This page is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
We need to get {{ WikiProject Military history}} added to the talk page of (almost) every article in Category:Soldiers and its many sub-categories (and probably on the category pages themselves). I'll try to do some of this, but I'm stretched somewhat thin at the moment, so I'd really appreciate any help. — Kirill Lokshin 19:44, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
I have done survey of the articles relating to Artillery and they are a mess. We have multiple articles dealing with the same subject under "Naval Gunfire" "Naval Artillery" "Naval Gunfire Support" etc. Additionally, Field Artillery (capitalized) is an article about US Army Field Artillery whereas field artillery (not capitalized) is an article on the subject in general etc etc. There seem to be a bunch of merges and moves that would be appropriate. I have tagged a few, but not all. Input on the discussion boards on those articles would certainly be helpful.-- Counsel 04:44, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
The campaignbox review is basically complete. Using the numbers from the end of January, we have:
This last category includes a number of empty and redundant campaignboxes that I'll be placing on WP:TFD shortly, as well as some that don't use the standard {{ Campaign}} formatting and need to be fixed. Aside from that, the major issues are:
Any help with the three points above would be appreciated, as would any general feedback on this. — Kirill Lokshin 00:22, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
Hey guys! I'm trying to mediate a discussion on Flag of Western Sahara, with mixed success. I already posted this at WP:RFC/P, but was hoping I might get some additional interested people here. There has been an ongoing argument at Flag of Western Sahara about the name of the flag.
Western Sahara is a region claimed by Morocco and a government in exile of indigenous people, the Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic. Both parties control a portion of the territory and both claim the whole of it. The flag is the flag flown by SADR, but it is generally known as the "Flag of Western Sahara", mainly because Morocco does not recognise the term Western Sahara (calling it Moroccan Sahara), so there is no other flag which also might bear the name. There have been extensive discussions about comparisons with Flag of Tibet, and Flag of Taiwan, but up until now no conclusion.
To break the stalemate, a vote has been proposed here, and I would very much appreciate any and every input. The more the merrier!
Thanks and greets, The Minist e r of War (Peace) 09:07, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
The following definitions come from Joint Publication 1-02, the U.S. Department of Defense Dictionary of Military and Associated Terms. Their use could make a strong move towards article standardization.
Ready Reserve), for not more than 270 days to meet the support requirements of any operational mission. Members called under this provision may not be used for disaster relief or to suppress insurrection. This authority has particular utility when used in circumstances in which the escalatory national or international signals of partial or full tailored, limited-scope, deterrent, or operational response, or may be used as a precursor to any subsequent mobilization. Also called PRCA. See also Individual Ready Reserve; mobilization; Presidential Callup; Selected Reserve. (JP 3-57)
Abbreviations
SSG Cornelius Seon (Retired) 22:36, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
Some of these are very Ameri-centric, particularly stuff like "battle honour" which is similar in concept in the Commonwealth forces but applied differently. Also stuff like brigade and regiment will never be standardized between the two systems so there is little need for that. "Active duty" is not a term used in Canada either. We may be better just to stroke out terms that are not "universal" and go from there. Michael Dorosh 20:39, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
This subject is a mess at the moment. There has been a brief discussion about the problem under Talk:Strategic bombing during World War II#talk and in that conversation (last comment 23 August 2005) the following overlapping articles were identified in what is probably not a full list:
See also military aviation which has a template for merging it into Aerial warfare which has a history section which pulls in some of the above articles.
The whole area needs sorting out. I hope someone who reads this is willing to take on such a large project. -- Philip Baird Shearer 13:28, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
File:Crest300 copy.jpg | |
Motto | Duty • Honor • Country |
---|---|
Type | Federal military academy |
Established | 1802 |
Superintendent | Lt. Gen. William J. Lennox, Jr. |
Undergraduates | 4,000 |
Location | , , |
Campus | 16,080 acres (65 km²) |
Athletics | 25 varsity teams, called "Black Knights" |
Colors | Black █, Gray █, and Gold █ |
Website | www.usma.edu |
SSG Cornelius Seon (Retired) 20:20, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
Is there an infobox to list a series of related wars? For example, 1st through 4th Macedonian wars? One can adapt the Campaignbox, but this is really supposed to be used for battles of a specific war. In some cases, all battles of all related wars are listed like this, but would it not be better to restrict the battles to a single war, and have an additional infobox linking the related wars? - Vedexent 21:46, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
I know - I've adpated it to the Macedonian Wars myself. I guess it's possible to use two campaign boxes - one for the war's battles, and one for the related wars. I guess in the abscence of other options I'll just do that :) - Vedexent 22:29, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
Just an idea that I think would be helpful: How about an icon as part of the Battlebox (I know it has been replaced - can't place the name of the replacement at the moment) indicating the type of battle - land, naval, air, etc. Say... an anchor, a plane silloutte, crossed swords, or whatever would convey the idea quickly? - Vedexent 00:25, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
FA-22 | |
---|---|
| |
Class | Stealth Fighter |
Crew | 1 |
Length | 62 ft |
Wingspan | 44 ft |
Height | 16 ft |
Wing area | 480 ft² |
Weight (Empty) | 31,670 lb |
Weight (Loaded) | 60,000 lb |
Maximum Takeoff | 80,000 lb |
Powerplant | 2× Pratt & Whitney F119-PW-100 |
Max Speed | Mach 2.0+ |
Cruising Speed | Mach 1.5+ |
Range | 2000 miles |
Service Ceiling | 65,000 ft |
Rate of Climb | ft/min |
Wing Loading | 96 lb/ft² |
Thrust/Weight | 1:1.27 |
Guns | 1× 20 mm Gatling gun |
Rockets | ? |
Missiles | 6× AIM-120C AMRAAM, 2× AIM-9 Sidewinder |
Bombs | 2× 1000 lb JDAM, 20x 250 lb Small Diameter Bombs |
I've created a fully-functioning infobox for Military aircraft.
Blank fields do not appear. It is highly flexible. Please leave suggestions on the template's TALK PAGE. -- Killioughtta
I'm not sure if veterans' organizations, such as the Southern Historical Society should be part of our project or not. Either way, if anyone would like to help edit that article, it would be appreciated. -- Habap 15:32, 23 February 2006 (UTC)