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Author Shannon Appelcline is working on a book (series?) called the TSR Codex that will compile all the articles he has written on the D&DClassics website for all the various D&D publications. :) This is great news because it is pretty iffy for us to use those webpages as sources since it is a commercial website to sell products, but having them published independently in a book means we will be able to use it as a reliable source. :) BOZ ( talk) 19:43, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
Forgotten Realms is now at GAR. BOZ ( talk) 22:05, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
This article, which is related to tabletop role-playing games as well as video games, has just been nominated for Good Article. Should be interesting! If there is anything you can pitch in to improve the article before the review starts, that would be great. :) BOZ ( talk) 19:46, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
Why have all of the Dungeons & Dragons articles been removed? They just redirect to pages that don't have any information.
There used to be a good amount of historical and game based information on these topics, but now they all just say "merged", but were really just deleted.
These topics have had a significant influence on fiction and other media, like video games. They shouldn't just all be deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.9.75.139 ( talk) 22:20, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
BOZ, I have read that, but it really is not relevant. These erased articles mostly say WP:GNG and have references, so there isn't really any way to "fix" a problem that doesn't even exist.
Then, they are "merged", which is just a lie. You take an major character from about 100 pieces of fiction, erase the article, and redirect it to something like "demons are a d&d monster". That is NOT merging.
Even if i tried to bring back an article, all of it's links are also removed, and you can just remove it again, without any justification. People who don't like Dungeons & Dragons should not be just arbitrarily destroying all of the hundreds of articles that users created. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.9.75.139 ( talk) 19:53, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
Formal request has been received to merge: Game System License into Open Game License; dated: November 2020. Not sure if this is considered a controversial merge suggestion. Proposer's Rationale: {not stated}. The discussion is here. Thanks! @ Sariel Xilo: ( talk) 02:26, 21 November 2020 (UTC) (Posted here by GenQuest "scribble" 20:54, 8 December 2020 (UTC))
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Minimal (Dungeons & Dragons). The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 January 7#Minimal (Dungeons & Dragons) until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Cnilep ( talk) 04:57, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
Hello everyone! There is a discussion going on here if a link to the external Forgotten Realms Wiki should be present in the Forgotten Realms article or not. This was already discussed in the past, but there are too few opions to clearly decide one way or another. So please, if you have any opinion about that, input there would be very welcome! Thanks! Daranios ( talk) 16:24, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
Just proposed merging Weave (Forgotten Realms) into Magic in Dungeons & Dragons#Forgotten Realms. The discussion is here. Thanks for your input! Sariel Xilo ( talk) 22:39, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
Just a quick note to encourage more people to join in the RfCs on renaming the articles discussing each Critical Role campaign.
The two proposals can be found here:
Thanks for looking, (I am not watching this page, so please ping me if you want my attention.) Little pob ( talk) 13:09, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
I have nominated Frank Klepacki for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Hog Farm Talk 00:21, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
There are 2 IP accounts ( Special:Contributions/89.123.252.14 & Special:Contributions/109.96.48.252) adding link spam to a couple of YouTube videos on mimics. These are not official videos (ie. official as in the D&D or D&D Beyond YouTube channels) & both have under 150 views. They've dropped these links on Monster Manual, Dungeons & Dragons, Mimic (Dungeons & Dragons), Monsters in Dungeons & Dragons, the respective article talk pages, and now a bunch of user talk pages. Please revert/remove the links if you see them. Sariel Xilo ( talk) 16:48, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
I'll keep discussion at that location, but thought members of this project might have useful input. For the record, no move has yet been requested. BusterD ( talk) 21:37, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
The Legend of Drizzt 20,415 680 Stub-- Coin945 ( talk) 14:20, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
Hello everyone! Can anyone perhaps help me out with information on The Monsters Know What They're Doing by Keith Ammann? Does anyone know if the book is identical with the entries from Ammann's blog (Google books allows me glimpses only)? Specifically, I am wondering about Genies in popular culture. I've used the blog entries for marids and dao there to give the creative origins, and now I am wondering if the book says the same. The book would of course be much more well-thought-of as a secondary source as compared to a blog. Thanks a lot for any input! Daranios ( talk) 15:09, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
I've found more than one upload of the entire run of Polyhedron magazine at Internet Archive: ( 1, 2). A stray #141 was uploaded separately. There are a few issue holes. At some point I can plug all the holes but one (one ordinal was never printed). While this is connected sourcing and not useful towards notability for AD&D product, these issues often contain information on early personages, events and non-TSR products. Additionally, there's a massive amount of canon for Forgotten Realms material by Ed Greenwood and tons of RPGA, TSR, Paizo, and WOTC history which might be used to populate notable subjects like Skip Williams, Frank Mentzer, Jean Rabe, Dave Gross, and Erik Mona. BusterD ( talk) 00:17, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
To preface, I should be more knowledgeable about this than I am, but just haven't made these mistakes yet. Perhaps there's someone who can guide me.
While visiting Gary Con this weekend I ran into some folks who had Wikipedia articles about them. I took pictures (with their permission) and expect to illustrate a couple of pages where the subject lacks a photo. More than one was dubious about the value of their article on this platform but almost unanimously they said such articles were way out of date. So I started looking for some newer sources. One source I found was a series of interviews by Peter Adkison of various TSR employees on the GenCon youtube channel. These interviews look and sound informational and are produced by the copyright holder. Could such videos be used to source gaming figures when discussing themselves? Could someone help me with example video of Ed Stark who has been with The Elder Scrolls Online for ten years and is a Zone Lead Designer, one of the ten most important creatives on the project. How can I link to the timecode for specific quotes? I'm still just a newb. Are more qualified nerds available to help? BusterD ( talk) 16:16, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
Thanks for looking into this, BusterD! If you can add anything useful to those page that's great, and even better if you find anything for User:BOZ/Draft pages. :) BOZ ( talk) 17:21, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
I have (with the help of others) made a small user script to detect and highlight various links to unreliable sources and predatory journals. Some of you may already be familiar with it, given it is currently the 39th most imported script on Wikipedia. The idea is that it takes something like
John Smith "[https://www.deprecated.com/article Article of things]" ''Deprecated.com''. Accessed 2020-02-14.
)and turns it into something like
It will work on a variety of links, including those from {{ cite web}}, {{ cite journal}} and {{ doi}}.
The script is mostly based on WP:RSPSOURCES, WP:NPPSG and WP:CITEWATCH and a good dose of common sense. I'm always expanding coverage and tweaking the script's logic, so general feedback and suggestions to expand coverage to other unreliable sources are always welcomed.
Do note that this is not a script to be mindlessly used, and several caveats apply. Details and instructions are available at User:Headbomb/unreliable. Questions, comments and requests can be made at User talk:Headbomb/unreliable.
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Anybody else going? I'm working most days but would love to do something new. BusterD ( talk) 02:33, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
Looking for further comments at Talk:Gen Con#Where should Gen Con 2020 be listed?. BOZ ( talk) 01:57, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 40 | Archive 41 | Archive 42 | Archive 43 | Archive 44 |
Author Shannon Appelcline is working on a book (series?) called the TSR Codex that will compile all the articles he has written on the D&DClassics website for all the various D&D publications. :) This is great news because it is pretty iffy for us to use those webpages as sources since it is a commercial website to sell products, but having them published independently in a book means we will be able to use it as a reliable source. :) BOZ ( talk) 19:43, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
Forgotten Realms is now at GAR. BOZ ( talk) 22:05, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
This article, which is related to tabletop role-playing games as well as video games, has just been nominated for Good Article. Should be interesting! If there is anything you can pitch in to improve the article before the review starts, that would be great. :) BOZ ( talk) 19:46, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
Why have all of the Dungeons & Dragons articles been removed? They just redirect to pages that don't have any information.
There used to be a good amount of historical and game based information on these topics, but now they all just say "merged", but were really just deleted.
These topics have had a significant influence on fiction and other media, like video games. They shouldn't just all be deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.9.75.139 ( talk) 22:20, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
BOZ, I have read that, but it really is not relevant. These erased articles mostly say WP:GNG and have references, so there isn't really any way to "fix" a problem that doesn't even exist.
Then, they are "merged", which is just a lie. You take an major character from about 100 pieces of fiction, erase the article, and redirect it to something like "demons are a d&d monster". That is NOT merging.
Even if i tried to bring back an article, all of it's links are also removed, and you can just remove it again, without any justification. People who don't like Dungeons & Dragons should not be just arbitrarily destroying all of the hundreds of articles that users created. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.9.75.139 ( talk) 19:53, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
Formal request has been received to merge: Game System License into Open Game License; dated: November 2020. Not sure if this is considered a controversial merge suggestion. Proposer's Rationale: {not stated}. The discussion is here. Thanks! @ Sariel Xilo: ( talk) 02:26, 21 November 2020 (UTC) (Posted here by GenQuest "scribble" 20:54, 8 December 2020 (UTC))
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Minimal (Dungeons & Dragons). The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 January 7#Minimal (Dungeons & Dragons) until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Cnilep ( talk) 04:57, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
Hello everyone! There is a discussion going on here if a link to the external Forgotten Realms Wiki should be present in the Forgotten Realms article or not. This was already discussed in the past, but there are too few opions to clearly decide one way or another. So please, if you have any opinion about that, input there would be very welcome! Thanks! Daranios ( talk) 16:24, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
Just proposed merging Weave (Forgotten Realms) into Magic in Dungeons & Dragons#Forgotten Realms. The discussion is here. Thanks for your input! Sariel Xilo ( talk) 22:39, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
Just a quick note to encourage more people to join in the RfCs on renaming the articles discussing each Critical Role campaign.
The two proposals can be found here:
Thanks for looking, (I am not watching this page, so please ping me if you want my attention.) Little pob ( talk) 13:09, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
I have nominated Frank Klepacki for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Hog Farm Talk 00:21, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
There are 2 IP accounts ( Special:Contributions/89.123.252.14 & Special:Contributions/109.96.48.252) adding link spam to a couple of YouTube videos on mimics. These are not official videos (ie. official as in the D&D or D&D Beyond YouTube channels) & both have under 150 views. They've dropped these links on Monster Manual, Dungeons & Dragons, Mimic (Dungeons & Dragons), Monsters in Dungeons & Dragons, the respective article talk pages, and now a bunch of user talk pages. Please revert/remove the links if you see them. Sariel Xilo ( talk) 16:48, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
I'll keep discussion at that location, but thought members of this project might have useful input. For the record, no move has yet been requested. BusterD ( talk) 21:37, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
The Legend of Drizzt 20,415 680 Stub-- Coin945 ( talk) 14:20, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
Hello everyone! Can anyone perhaps help me out with information on The Monsters Know What They're Doing by Keith Ammann? Does anyone know if the book is identical with the entries from Ammann's blog (Google books allows me glimpses only)? Specifically, I am wondering about Genies in popular culture. I've used the blog entries for marids and dao there to give the creative origins, and now I am wondering if the book says the same. The book would of course be much more well-thought-of as a secondary source as compared to a blog. Thanks a lot for any input! Daranios ( talk) 15:09, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
I've found more than one upload of the entire run of Polyhedron magazine at Internet Archive: ( 1, 2). A stray #141 was uploaded separately. There are a few issue holes. At some point I can plug all the holes but one (one ordinal was never printed). While this is connected sourcing and not useful towards notability for AD&D product, these issues often contain information on early personages, events and non-TSR products. Additionally, there's a massive amount of canon for Forgotten Realms material by Ed Greenwood and tons of RPGA, TSR, Paizo, and WOTC history which might be used to populate notable subjects like Skip Williams, Frank Mentzer, Jean Rabe, Dave Gross, and Erik Mona. BusterD ( talk) 00:17, 11 January 2022 (UTC)
To preface, I should be more knowledgeable about this than I am, but just haven't made these mistakes yet. Perhaps there's someone who can guide me.
While visiting Gary Con this weekend I ran into some folks who had Wikipedia articles about them. I took pictures (with their permission) and expect to illustrate a couple of pages where the subject lacks a photo. More than one was dubious about the value of their article on this platform but almost unanimously they said such articles were way out of date. So I started looking for some newer sources. One source I found was a series of interviews by Peter Adkison of various TSR employees on the GenCon youtube channel. These interviews look and sound informational and are produced by the copyright holder. Could such videos be used to source gaming figures when discussing themselves? Could someone help me with example video of Ed Stark who has been with The Elder Scrolls Online for ten years and is a Zone Lead Designer, one of the ten most important creatives on the project. How can I link to the timecode for specific quotes? I'm still just a newb. Are more qualified nerds available to help? BusterD ( talk) 16:16, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
Thanks for looking into this, BusterD! If you can add anything useful to those page that's great, and even better if you find anything for User:BOZ/Draft pages. :) BOZ ( talk) 17:21, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
I have (with the help of others) made a small user script to detect and highlight various links to unreliable sources and predatory journals. Some of you may already be familiar with it, given it is currently the 39th most imported script on Wikipedia. The idea is that it takes something like
John Smith "[https://www.deprecated.com/article Article of things]" ''Deprecated.com''. Accessed 2020-02-14.
)and turns it into something like
It will work on a variety of links, including those from {{ cite web}}, {{ cite journal}} and {{ doi}}.
The script is mostly based on WP:RSPSOURCES, WP:NPPSG and WP:CITEWATCH and a good dose of common sense. I'm always expanding coverage and tweaking the script's logic, so general feedback and suggestions to expand coverage to other unreliable sources are always welcomed.
Do note that this is not a script to be mindlessly used, and several caveats apply. Details and instructions are available at User:Headbomb/unreliable. Questions, comments and requests can be made at User talk:Headbomb/unreliable.
This is a one time notice and can't be unsubscribed from. Delivered by: MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 16:01, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
Anybody else going? I'm working most days but would love to do something new. BusterD ( talk) 02:33, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
Looking for further comments at Talk:Gen Con#Where should Gen Con 2020 be listed?. BOZ ( talk) 01:57, 12 August 2022 (UTC)