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Hey there. :) Currently, we have 7 Good Articles and one A-Class article (although two of those GA's, Dice and Shared universe, are only D&D by loose association). Gen Con is up for GA, and could really use some help if you are able to provide any. Dragons of Despair has also been nominated, but no one has picked it up for a review as of yet.
In case you hadn't noticed, one of my personal goals lately has been to improve some of our better articles to push them even higher up the ladder. There are currently 16 articles in the B-Class category. Of them, I'd say Forgotten Realms, Planescape, Ravenloft, Player's Handbook, Against the Giants, R. A. Salvatore, Isle of Dread, Dungeons & Dragons controversies, and Book of Exalted Deeds have the most potential to go higher. This would, of course, mean looking for sources and fixing up the articles substantially from their current state.
We also have 86 articles in the C-Class category. Any of those would require even more work to move up (although, to prove it's not impossible, Wizards of the Coast was rated as a C when I worked to get it promoted to GA). A number of computer/video game articles are in the C-class, but personally I say let the video game project people worry about those (although I'll totally go for Pool of Radiance! Gold box games, woohoo!), and I'll help out if any get nominated; same thing with the novels. Dragonlance, as I've stated before, has potential if we can get some additional sources; Kara-Tur maybe less so. Drizzt Do'Urden, Artemis Entreri, and Raistlin Majere are very popular characters, and if we can tone down the in-universe while building up the out-of-universe, those shouldn't be a problem (I haven't read the novels, so I'd need help). A BLP article like Dave Arneson or Margaret Weis might be a nice challange as well; Keith Parkinson wouldn't have the BLP limitations. The Dungeons & Dragons (TV series) might be doable. Chainmail (game) shouldn't be too hard actually, since we can double up references from the Gygax article. D20 System and Editions of Dungeons & Dragons would worthwhile. Sourcebooks like Monster Manual, Fiend Folio, Oriental Adventures, Unearthed Arcana, or Dungeons & Dragons Basic Set (although I wrote that one), should be good. I built up TSR, Inc. quite a bit lately, but unfortunately I over-sourced it to primary sources, so we'd need to find some secondary sources to replace a lot of those citations with.
So, give me some feedback. Where would you like to help out with? :) BOZ ( talk) 01:42, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
I took another look at some of our B and C articles, and I think a quick, easy way to get some GAs is to work on publications which already have a few reviews on them. It might be easier, in fact, to get some of the shorter articles to a higher level than the longer ones, because you have less to source. Probably some of the closest ones to that already are manuals Monster Manual, Unearthed Arcana, and Fiend Folio. A number of modules might work, in particular compilations Against the Giants and Scourge of the Slave Lords, and other classics such as Isle of Dread, Palace of the Silver Princess, Lost Caverns of Tsojcanth, and The Keep on the Borderlands; Dwellers of the Forbidden City might be a nice guilty pleasure given all the controversy that went down on the AFD. ;) I also think Drow (Dungeons & Dragons) would be worth working on after we get some others going, but that would require removing a lot of the current in-universe content - it was one of the monster articles that had the most publication history prior to my adding a larger section. BOZ ( talk) 00:48, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
There's probably enough info out there for Drizzt Do'Urden as well. [1] [2]. - Peregrine Fisher ( talk) ( contribs) 20:08, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
Let's move this conversation to the article's talk page. :) BOZ ( talk) 04:09, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
Dragons of Despair's GAN is currently on hold for improvements. - Drilnoth ( talk) 14:48, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
I'm still not quite I understand the assessment scheme for this project, especially as Illithid is now ranked in the top category. Any ideas why its there? (Dragon is also up there, but that makes a little more sense.) Thanks.— RJH ( talk) 22:48, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
Should the project's banner be {{ D&D}} or {{ Dungeons & Dragons}}? It was moved after the category renaming, but for that I personally prefer {{ D&D}}. Thoughts? - Drilnoth ( talk) 16:35, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
No, nossir, not yet, JarlaxleArtemis is still among us: Special:Contributions/Darknext. BOZ ( talk) 20:47, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
Maybe it goes without saying, but I'll say it anyway. Don't click on anything Grawp has edited or linked too. Viruses like you have never seen. You would be safer to dumpster dive behind a free clinic. Web Warlock ( talk) 15:22, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
I'm just bringing this up again so that it can be resolved: Should D&D redirects have categories on them? It seems that the general consensus of the Wikipedia community as a whole is "no," but I thought that more opinions wold help. Categories like this seem rather pointless with all the redirects, as many of them redirect to the categories main article, List of Forgotten Realms characters. Opinions? - Drilnoth ( talk) 23:24, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
Having seen the new {{ D&D navbox}} template in use, I've come to think that there probably is a better solution, since the single navbox can't cover much ground (for example, there's nothing about video games), and because any article it's in only has one or two directly related articles in the navbox. My proposal is that we do use separate navboxes, as had been done before, but do a complete reformatting of many of them, with the following templates when its done: D&D books; Forgotten Realms; D&D video games; Eberron; Dragonlance; Greyhawk; D&D basics; D&D monsters; D&D characters (including races, classes, and iconic characters like Lord Soth); D&D creators (including designers and artists); etc. Opinions? -
Does this make sense to everyone, or do you think that it would inevitably have the opposite of its intended effect (that is to say, people restoring articles without effecting cleanup)? - Drilnoth ( talk) 02:50, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
Some input is needed at Template talk:D&D regarding the template's formatting and the use of Bottom-Class. - Drilnoth ( talk) 02:40, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
So, should we create a portal? The Dragonlance portal, which hasn't been updated in quite a long time, is still getting 500+ hits a month according to the hit counter, so people must still be finding it useful, but I think that a portal with a larger scope would be good to have. - Drilnoth ( talk) 03:36, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
I think that we should probably update our style guidelines... they need a lot of updating and expansion. I'll work on it shortly, but any help would be appreciated. - Drilnoth ( talk) 14:38, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
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Hey there. :) Currently, we have 7 Good Articles and one A-Class article (although two of those GA's, Dice and Shared universe, are only D&D by loose association). Gen Con is up for GA, and could really use some help if you are able to provide any. Dragons of Despair has also been nominated, but no one has picked it up for a review as of yet.
In case you hadn't noticed, one of my personal goals lately has been to improve some of our better articles to push them even higher up the ladder. There are currently 16 articles in the B-Class category. Of them, I'd say Forgotten Realms, Planescape, Ravenloft, Player's Handbook, Against the Giants, R. A. Salvatore, Isle of Dread, Dungeons & Dragons controversies, and Book of Exalted Deeds have the most potential to go higher. This would, of course, mean looking for sources and fixing up the articles substantially from their current state.
We also have 86 articles in the C-Class category. Any of those would require even more work to move up (although, to prove it's not impossible, Wizards of the Coast was rated as a C when I worked to get it promoted to GA). A number of computer/video game articles are in the C-class, but personally I say let the video game project people worry about those (although I'll totally go for Pool of Radiance! Gold box games, woohoo!), and I'll help out if any get nominated; same thing with the novels. Dragonlance, as I've stated before, has potential if we can get some additional sources; Kara-Tur maybe less so. Drizzt Do'Urden, Artemis Entreri, and Raistlin Majere are very popular characters, and if we can tone down the in-universe while building up the out-of-universe, those shouldn't be a problem (I haven't read the novels, so I'd need help). A BLP article like Dave Arneson or Margaret Weis might be a nice challange as well; Keith Parkinson wouldn't have the BLP limitations. The Dungeons & Dragons (TV series) might be doable. Chainmail (game) shouldn't be too hard actually, since we can double up references from the Gygax article. D20 System and Editions of Dungeons & Dragons would worthwhile. Sourcebooks like Monster Manual, Fiend Folio, Oriental Adventures, Unearthed Arcana, or Dungeons & Dragons Basic Set (although I wrote that one), should be good. I built up TSR, Inc. quite a bit lately, but unfortunately I over-sourced it to primary sources, so we'd need to find some secondary sources to replace a lot of those citations with.
So, give me some feedback. Where would you like to help out with? :) BOZ ( talk) 01:42, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
I took another look at some of our B and C articles, and I think a quick, easy way to get some GAs is to work on publications which already have a few reviews on them. It might be easier, in fact, to get some of the shorter articles to a higher level than the longer ones, because you have less to source. Probably some of the closest ones to that already are manuals Monster Manual, Unearthed Arcana, and Fiend Folio. A number of modules might work, in particular compilations Against the Giants and Scourge of the Slave Lords, and other classics such as Isle of Dread, Palace of the Silver Princess, Lost Caverns of Tsojcanth, and The Keep on the Borderlands; Dwellers of the Forbidden City might be a nice guilty pleasure given all the controversy that went down on the AFD. ;) I also think Drow (Dungeons & Dragons) would be worth working on after we get some others going, but that would require removing a lot of the current in-universe content - it was one of the monster articles that had the most publication history prior to my adding a larger section. BOZ ( talk) 00:48, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
There's probably enough info out there for Drizzt Do'Urden as well. [1] [2]. - Peregrine Fisher ( talk) ( contribs) 20:08, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
Let's move this conversation to the article's talk page. :) BOZ ( talk) 04:09, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
Dragons of Despair's GAN is currently on hold for improvements. - Drilnoth ( talk) 14:48, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
I'm still not quite I understand the assessment scheme for this project, especially as Illithid is now ranked in the top category. Any ideas why its there? (Dragon is also up there, but that makes a little more sense.) Thanks.— RJH ( talk) 22:48, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
Should the project's banner be {{ D&D}} or {{ Dungeons & Dragons}}? It was moved after the category renaming, but for that I personally prefer {{ D&D}}. Thoughts? - Drilnoth ( talk) 16:35, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
No, nossir, not yet, JarlaxleArtemis is still among us: Special:Contributions/Darknext. BOZ ( talk) 20:47, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
Maybe it goes without saying, but I'll say it anyway. Don't click on anything Grawp has edited or linked too. Viruses like you have never seen. You would be safer to dumpster dive behind a free clinic. Web Warlock ( talk) 15:22, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
I'm just bringing this up again so that it can be resolved: Should D&D redirects have categories on them? It seems that the general consensus of the Wikipedia community as a whole is "no," but I thought that more opinions wold help. Categories like this seem rather pointless with all the redirects, as many of them redirect to the categories main article, List of Forgotten Realms characters. Opinions? - Drilnoth ( talk) 23:24, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
Having seen the new {{ D&D navbox}} template in use, I've come to think that there probably is a better solution, since the single navbox can't cover much ground (for example, there's nothing about video games), and because any article it's in only has one or two directly related articles in the navbox. My proposal is that we do use separate navboxes, as had been done before, but do a complete reformatting of many of them, with the following templates when its done: D&D books; Forgotten Realms; D&D video games; Eberron; Dragonlance; Greyhawk; D&D basics; D&D monsters; D&D characters (including races, classes, and iconic characters like Lord Soth); D&D creators (including designers and artists); etc. Opinions? -
Does this make sense to everyone, or do you think that it would inevitably have the opposite of its intended effect (that is to say, people restoring articles without effecting cleanup)? - Drilnoth ( talk) 02:50, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
Some input is needed at Template talk:D&D regarding the template's formatting and the use of Bottom-Class. - Drilnoth ( talk) 02:40, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
So, should we create a portal? The Dragonlance portal, which hasn't been updated in quite a long time, is still getting 500+ hits a month according to the hit counter, so people must still be finding it useful, but I think that a portal with a larger scope would be good to have. - Drilnoth ( talk) 03:36, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
I think that we should probably update our style guidelines... they need a lot of updating and expansion. I'll work on it shortly, but any help would be appreciated. - Drilnoth ( talk) 14:38, 17 January 2009 (UTC)