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In accordance with the amended Importance Scale (see discussion above), I have completed a review of the WikiProject Dogs articles, which have been reduced to 3,854.
IMPORTANCE=TOP
IMPORTANCE=HIGH
IMPORTANCE = MID
IMPORTANCE = LOW
IMPORTANCE = NA
Your assistance would be appreciated. Now would be a good time to also help review how we assess our articles, refer above #Time to establish guidelines:break. William Harris talk 09:08, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
I am curious what is to be done about the American Dog Breeders Association article. Nothing has been done about it since its copyright violation. Dwanyewest ( talk) 22:03, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
Justlettersandnumbers ( talk), William Harris talk , Cavalryman ( talk) I think this revised version or the ADBA see here User:Atsme/ADBA created by User:Atsme should replaced the current version of American Dog Breeders Association. What are other users thoughts? Dwanyewest ( talk) 16:17, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
The pix in the project template (top of this page i.e. Template:WikiProject Dogs) was recently changed from that of a coyote to that shown above - an artist's impression of a collection of domestic dogs. I would suggest that these types of changes should be first brought to this Talk page for discussion. The coyote was originally employed to highlight that WikiProject Dogs was now more about the subfamily Caninae and not just about the domestic dog Canis familiaris. I concur with the change, based on the reason that there are around 1 billion domestic dogs on this planet but only 7 million coyotes, therefore C. familiaris is the most appropriate representative. Whether an artwork is appropriate is a different issue. William Harris talk 05:18, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
Talk:Neapolitan Mastiff#Proposed merge of Cane da Presa Meridionale into Neapolitan Mastiff. Justlettersandnumbers ( talk) 22:03, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
An article of interest to the project— Sato (dog)—has been proposed for merging with Street dog#Puerto Rico. Project members are invited to participate at the merger discussion. Cavalryman ( talk) 04:31, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
An article of interest to the project— bandog—has been proposed for merging with mastiff. Project members are invited to participate at the merger discussion. Kind regards, Cavalryman ( talk) 22:28, 24 February 2020 (UTC).
Two articles of interested to the project have been requested to be moved:
Project members are invited to participate in the move discussions. Kind regards, Cavalryman ( talk) 12:22, 3 March 2020 (UTC).
Ovtcharka ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) has been nominated for deletion, project members are invited to comment a the article's entry at AfD. Kind regards, Cavalryman ( talk) 11:20, 4 March 2020 (UTC).
Xigou ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) has been nominated for deletion, project members are invited to comment a the article's entry at AfD. Kind regards, Cavalryman ( talk) 02:24, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
Three articles of interest to the project has been requested to be moved:
Project members are invited to participate in the move discussions. William Harris talk 03:13, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
Two article of interest to the project have been proposed for merging with German Shepherd:
Project members are invited to participate in the merger discussions. Cavalryman ( talk) 01:20, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
Two more have been nominated:
Kind regards, Cavalryman ( talk) 02:32, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
One more late nomination:
Kind regards, Cavalryman ( talk) 10:41, 5 March 2020 (UTC).
Please see discussion at Talk:List of dog breeds#Proposal:Simplification of list, project members are invited to participate. Cavalryman ( talk) 04:43, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
An article of interest to the project— Dog-baiting—has been proposed for merging with Baiting (blood sport). Project members are invited to participate at the merger discussion. Cavalryman ( talk) 02:10, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
I saw this come up in the new pages feed, and wasn't sure what to do with it. Move it to List of dog breeds from India? Nominate for deletion? Dogs are tricky, so I thought I'd post here. There was a PROD but it was contested. Enwebb ( talk) 03:15, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
Cierny Sery ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) has been nominated for deletion, project members are invited to comment a the article's entry at AfD. Kind regards, Cavalryman ( talk) 11:28, 18 March 2020 (UTC).
Old German Shepherd Dog ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) has been nominated for deletion, project members are invited to comment a the article's entry at AfD. Kind regards, Cavalryman ( talk) 10:00, 20 March 2020 (UTC).
Self colour ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) has been nominated for deletion, project members are invited to comment at the article's entry at AfD. Kind regards, Cavalryman ( talk) 01:34, 6 April 2020 (UTC).
American Rare Breed Association ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) has been nominated for deletion, project members are invited to comment at the article's entry at AfD. Kind regards, Cavalryman ( talk) 06:03, 6 April 2020 (UTC).
Several changes in a row were made by an
IP at
List of dog breeds, so take thought you might want to take a look.
Atsme
Talk
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02:15, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
Black and Tan Virginia Foxhound ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) has been nominated for deletion, project members are invited to comment at the article's entry at AfD. Kind regards, Cavalryman ( talk) 05:03, 17 April 2020 (UTC).
Does anyone know if the content from User:Atsme/ADBA is going to be merged with the American Dog Breeders Association article? Dwanyewest ( talk) 22:48, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
An article of interest to the project, Maremma Sheepdog, has been requested to be moved to Maremmano-Abruzzese Sheepdog. Project members are invited to participate in the move discussion. Cavalryman ( talk) 01:49, 14 May 2020 (UTC).
Argentine Pila Dog ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) has been nominated for deletion, project members are invited to comment at the article's entry at AfD. Kind regards, Cavalryman ( talk) 04:40, 14 May 2020 (UTC).
Australian Staghound ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) has been nominated for deletion, project members are invited to comment at the article's entry at AfD. Kind regards, Cavalryman ( talk) 11:02, 14 May 2020 (UTC).
Please see a discussion on a proposal to simplify the current list table on the Mastiff page at Talk:Mastiff#Proposal:Simplification of list, project members are invited to participate. Kind regards, Cavalryman ( talk) 05:24, 19 May 2020 (UTC).
Pandikona ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) has been nominated for deletion, project members are invited to comment at the article's entry at AfD. Kind regards, Cavalryman ( talk) 01:29, 20 May 2020 (UTC).
See Old English Terrier. After the perfunctory intro sentence, it launches into stuff like this (and doesn't get much better from there): "The Old English is a working and sporting terrier that is, in general, an exceptional athlete with a high, intense, and vigorous prey drive that is followed, if need be, by an awesome display of gameness." — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 01:42, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
References
Old English Terrier has been proposed for merging with Black and Tan Terrier. Project members are invited to participate at the merger discussion. Kind regards, Cavalryman ( talk) 23:30, 4 June 2020 (UTC).
I was thinking that Bulldog breeds is a bunch of weird original research trying to link a bunch of unrelated breeds into a single classification, primarily to target them for breed-specific legislation. I checked, and this was already WP:AFDed almost a year ago, but survived by a "no consensus". I think this should probably be re-AfDed, with better-marshalled arguments, though I'm not personally in possession of sufficient breed-ancestry RS right now to approach this with the kind of solidity I would want to muster. Category:Bulldog breeds is arguably worse; it is nothing but a category for breeds that have "bulldog" in their name, regardless if there is any connection between them; this fails the "trivial intersection" test, and WP:CFD routinely deletes useless categories that are based on nothing but name similarity. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 03:49, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
Cavalryman, SMcCandlish, et al - Catahoula Leopard Dog - recent editing activity and questions on talk page. I barely have time to post this or I would help...thanks, folks. Atsme Talk 📧 15:44, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
Atsme & SMcCandlish, I have drafted a revised Cur article ( User:Cavalryman/Sandbox 3). I ask your opinions, I could create two stubs or combine them into a single article but it will be significantly weighted towards the extinct English cur. What are your thoughts? Kind regards, Cavalryman ( talk) 11:09, 9 June 2020 (UTC).
Does anyone think John P. Colby is deserving of a wikipedia article as he seems an influential figure in the American Pitbull Terrier breed. Dwanyewest ( talk)
I just moved the discussion & proposed guidelines for reliable sources from my user space to Wikipedia:WikiProject Dogs/Reliable sources. I was hoping we could turn that page into something like the following chart: Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources. We can discuss adding and rating sources on the WPDRS talk page where there is already some discussion. Pinging Justlettersandnumbers, Cavalryman, William Harris, and SMcCandlish. I hope other project members and interested parties will also contribute to this worthy cause. Atsme Talk 📧 12:41, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
Note: - I added the list by Cavalryman along with a few other sources by others to our WP:WikiProject Dogs/Reliable sources. If you see anything that needs changing or tweaking, please be bold. We should probably add a similar list of acceptable reliable sources. Atsme Talk 📧 12:40, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
Someone has decided to copy (not a WP:MOVE) the article Great Pyrenees→Pyrenean Mountain Dog, and it appears without discussion. I have no position on the naming but someone may. William Harris talk 12:56, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
An article of interest to the project— Poodle crossbreed—has been proposed for merging with Dog crossbreed. Project members are invited to participate at the merger discussion. Cavalryman ( talk) 01:18, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
Italian Shepherd ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) has been nominated for deletion, project members are invited to comment at the article's entry at AfD. Kind regards, Cavalryman ( talk) 04:19, 18 June 2020 (UTC).
At Talk:Molossus of Epirus#Proposed merge of Molossus (dog) with Molossus of Epirus. Justlettersandnumbers ( talk) 10:30, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
Please see discussion at Template talk:Infobox dog breed#New infobox now live. Cavalryman ( talk) 00:12, 22 June 2020 (UTC).
Gran Mastín de Borínquen ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) has been nominated for deletion, project members are invited to comment at the article's entry at AfD. Kind regards, Cavalryman ( talk) 01:36, 23 June 2020 (UTC).
Can some of the Project’s members review my attempts at sourcing Cavoodle? A brand new editor keeps reintroducing unsourced content and patently rubbish sources, it is proceeding towards edit war territory. Kind regards, Cavalryman ( talk) 08:40, 2 June 2020 (UTC).
Justlettersandnumbers, I believe our friend from Cavoodle, LeoRussoLeo ( talk · contribs), has returned as 65.183.144.120 ( talk · contribs · WHOIS), a lot of their language is the same and the IP seems to be solely used to edit disruptively on crossbreed dog articles and has now taken to tagging completely unrelated pages I have created with issues. Kind regards, Cavalryman ( talk) 15:08, 29 June 2020 (UTC).
Cavoodle has been proposed for merging with List of dog crossbreeds. Project members are invited to participate at the merger discussion. Kind regards, Cavalryman ( talk) 11:33, 15 June 2020 (UTC).
See:
Wikipedia talk:Sockpuppet investigations#Meatpuppetry reporting?
—
SMcCandlish
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03:46, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
Kunming wolfdog ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) has been nominated for deletion, project members are invited to comment at the article's entry at AfD. Kind regards, Cavalryman ( talk) 06:19, 2 July 2020 (UTC).
An article of interest to the project— Miniature Shar Pei—has been proposed for merging with Shar Pei. Project members are invited to participate at the merger discussion. Kind regards, Cavalryman ( talk) 00:57, 3 July 2020 (UTC).
Justlettersandnumbers, given your remarkable effort to ferret out a couple of sources for the Perdigueiro Galego, I am wondering if you know of any sources for the Sabueso Cántabro? Otherwise I fear it's not for the encyclopedia. Kind regards, Cavalryman ( talk) 05:54, 3 July 2020 (UTC).
I have hacked, slashed, rewritten, sourced and stubbed Northern Inuit Dog (AfD'd once) and Tamaskan Dog (AfD'd four times), according to one source it appears they both descend from a 1980s breeding project in the UK, the descendants of which include both these two "breeds" as well as the deleted Utonagan ( WP:Articles for deletion/Utonagan). Does anyone know of any other sources for the above breeding program, given the dire states of sources for both remaining articles it would be better to merge them into a single article. Kind regards, Cavalryman ( talk) 02:35, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
An article of interest to the project— Tamaskan Dog—has been proposed for merging with Northern Inuit Dog. Project members are invited to participate at the merger discussion. Kind regards, Cavalryman ( talk) 22:06, 3 July 2020 (UTC).
Template:Greenlandic dogs has been nominated for deletion. Project members are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Kind regards, Cavalryman ( talk) 04:02, 7 July 2020 (UTC).
Can anyone determine if the Carea Leonés is the recognised Perro Leonés de Pastor? Real Decreto 558/2001, cited on the page, mentions the latter but not the former. Cavalryman ( talk) 02:52, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
I have found - coming from our Main Page, section "Cleanup list" - a very powerful piece of software that lists all of the WP:DOG articles that have various issues/problems/faults and this list can be seen here. William Harris talk 11:28, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
I have just stumbled upon Portal:Dogs, apparently it is within the remit of this project and apparently it is one of Wikipedia's WP:Featured portals. I estimate 30% of the links on the page are redirects (some have been so for over a decade) and the lead appears to be a restricted to the domestic dog, as opposed to the broadened scope of this Wikiproject.
I suppose the question should be asked, is this portal still relevant (I personally have never quite understood the portal thing)?
I am currently trying to conduct a little tidy. Cavalryman ( talk) 04:08, 8 July 2020 (UTC).
Reference: Wikipedia:WikiProject Dogs - Main Page, box for To Do, the section Stubs. I have reviewed all of the WP:DOGS articles that were classified at Class=stub and Importance=Top or Mid (I am not concerned about Importance=low at this stage). Those articles that warranted being reclassified from stub→start have been so reclassified, leaving many still remaining at Class=stub. These are now listed on the Main Page, just in case a visitor has an interest in one or two of them. Don't be too surprised by the number. All of these articles relating to domestic dogs are also displayed on the dog portal. (Of course, some of these should be deleted on GNG, but we will get around to that.) William Harris talk 09:24, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
As a result of this bot message, I've moved Dog show to Dog show (disambiguation) and Conformation show to Dog show, per this unopposed talk-page proposal by SMcCandlish from 2016, and also per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. I trust that will be acceptable to all? – if not, it can of course be undone. Anyway, all three pages may need a little massaging as a result, and I'm really not the person to do that. Any volunteers? Justlettersandnumbers ( talk) 22:14, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
Ratonero Murciano de Huerta ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) has been nominated for deletion, project members are invited to comment at the article's entry at AfD. Kind regards, Cavalryman ( talk) 05:46, 14 July 2020 (UTC).
Ameri-Indian Alaskan Husky ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) has been nominated for deletion, project members are invited to comment at the article's entry at AfD. Kind regards, Cavalryman ( talk) 00:07, 29 July 2020 (UTC).
After attempting to work on the Street dogs in Chennai article, I left a note at Talk:Street dogs in Chennai#Needs organization. Maybe someone can take a look for a fresh perspective. Thanks. Normal Op ( talk) 02:01, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
An list of interest to the project— List of extinct dog breeds—has been proposed for merging with List of dog breeds. Project members are invited to participate at the merger discussion. Kind regards, Cavalryman ( talk) 13:33, 1 August 2020 (UTC).
Reference: Wikipedia:WikiProject Dogs - Main Page, contents "4.2 Recent change patrolling". The recent changes list has not been reviewed for some time. With some data sorting and indexing behind the scenes, I have just added another 220 dog breeds and types articles to our watch list (yes, two hundred and twenty!) e.g. Karelo-Finnish Laika. This may mean that more changes will now be picked up on the list each day. William Harris talk 09:51, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
Street dogs in Chennai ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) has been nominated for deletion. Project members are invited to comment at the article's entry at AfD. Normal Op ( talk) 17:30, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
Hello all, two action items for your attention:
Please let me know over the next week if you believe that these are not appropriate actions. William Harris talk 09:43, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
Hello all, two action items for your attention:
Please let me know over the next week if you believe that these are not appropriate actions. William Harris talk 12:20, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
Is it ok to mention this dog in this section? If you have an opinion, please share at Talk:Pit_bull#Nipper_should_not_be_listed_in_'Notable_pit_bulls'_section. Gråbergs Gråa Sång ( talk) 10:40, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
An list of interest to the project— Gaddi Kutta—has been proposed for merging with Bhotia dog. Project members are invited to participate at the merger discussion. Kind regards, Cavalryman ( talk) 02:04, 12 August 2020 (UTC).
This is way outside my usual topic area, so excuse my ignorance. The Pomchi, Pomeranian Chihuahua mix, is a very common mixed breed. My dog is one. What am I missing here, is it just an oversight that there's no article, or...? Psiĥedelisto ( talk • contribs) please always ping! 01:40, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
I just added WikiProject Dogs to the Talk page banner of Muttshack Animal Rescue Foundation so the Dog project would get notified automatically when I submitted it to AfD. I had an earlier exchange with William Harris on another AfD about the Dog project wanting to get notified, which is why I'm thinking WPDogs is interested in the shelter articles. I have a list of other shelters/rescues to check on Wikipedia to either update, ignore, or AfD (depending on what I find). Since a wikiproject is ordinarily the one who chooses which articles they want under their wing, not random wiki editors, I am asking the project participants:
1. Do you want me to add the WikiProject Dogs banner to shelter/rescue article talk pages when I come across them? (unless they are cat-only)
2. If "no" to #1, would you want me to post a notice of AfD on this talk page if I submit a shelter article for AfD?
— Normal Op ( talk) 18:53, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
What are member's thoughts on https://www.agraria.org/ as RS? I am having trouble trying to work who/what produces it, I have been thrown by the ISSN 1970-2620 which is definitely registered to them [2] [3]. Is is a valid journal? Cavalryman ( talk) 05:16, 26 August 2020 (UTC).
I would like some other opinions. I have been encountering a lot of run-of-the-mill animal shelters that have had Wikipedia articles created. A particular editor made quite a handful of them. One of the sections that had been created for most of them is "Notable rescues" which are ordinary rescues/incidents that happened to get some sort of local news coverage. Now there's a difference between news coverage "about an organization" (that is used to determine if an organization is notable enough to have a wiki article) and articles about a local incident of an animal abuse/abandonment/injury that the local shelter then takes care of (which is a human interest story for local news coverage, and of course the intaking shelter will get a mention).
Per any dictionary definition of "notable", none of these rescue-incidents count as 'notable' and I feel that adding them to a shelter's article is UNDUE -- mostly because these are ordinary issues that any shelter handles daily. That the local paper picked up a particular story, doesn't make that particular rescue-incident notable. I also feel that mentioning them in a wiki article is WP:UNDUE because this is ordinary business/work for a shelter.
A really notable case might be a local hoarder that was raided by police and animal control, 200 animals were seized, and the shelter spent the next week finding alternative placement for that many animals because they couldn't handle that volume alone, or they rallied their local community to build new kennels within two days, getting donations of building supplies and volunteer labor (I just made that one up; not real). That might be notable. Or the effort Muttshack Animal Rescue Foundation made in the wake of Hurricane Katrina; they canoed around the flood for weeks, breaking into submerged houses to rescue pets... THAT was a notable effort. (Unfortunately for them, it seems to be the only notable effort they've made and their article might be deleted at AfD, though maybe a single heroic sustained event should count to keep that article.) I use that to illustrate the difference between whether a shelter organization is notable, or whether a rescue incident is notable. Muttshack-Katrina: notable incident, not notable org. Richmond Animal Protection Society may or may not be a notable org, but their list of 'notable rescues' is ordinary work for a shelter. The "50 dogs abandoned" is probably the only really unusual case, but is that notable, or WP:DUE? Are the rest? What about these sorts of sections?
I'd like some feedback on what others think about including ordinary rescue incidents in shelter articles. Please discuss. Thank you.
— Normal Op ( talk) 07:08, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
We had that conversation a little higher up this talk page. I am definitely making sure that shelters (those that have dogs, not just cats-only) are tagged for wikiproject dogs on their talk page before I nominate for AfD. Some bot will update the list at Wikipedia:WikiProject Dogs#Article alerts once every 24 hours. Normal Op ( talk) 23:29, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
Poll: Do the other WPDogs people wish me to add AfD notices on this talk page as well, or is the notice in 'Article alerts' sufficient? (The latter shows up in one's Watchlist, but the former does not.) Normal Op ( talk) 23:29, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
Animal Rescue Sofia ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) has been nominated for deletion. Project members are invited to comment at the article's entry at AfD. Normal Op ( talk) 16:21, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
Western Plains Animal Refuge ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) has been nominated for deletion. Project members are invited to comment at the article's entry at AfD. Normal Op ( talk) 03:21, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
Lottatore Brindisino ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) has been nominated for deletion, project members are invited to comment at the article's entry at AfD. Kind regards, Cavalryman ( talk) 03:27, 2 September 2020 (UTC).
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 5 | ← | Archive 10 | Archive 11 | Archive 12 | Archive 13 | Archive 14 | Archive 15 |
In accordance with the amended Importance Scale (see discussion above), I have completed a review of the WikiProject Dogs articles, which have been reduced to 3,854.
IMPORTANCE=TOP
IMPORTANCE=HIGH
IMPORTANCE = MID
IMPORTANCE = LOW
IMPORTANCE = NA
Your assistance would be appreciated. Now would be a good time to also help review how we assess our articles, refer above #Time to establish guidelines:break. William Harris talk 09:08, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
I am curious what is to be done about the American Dog Breeders Association article. Nothing has been done about it since its copyright violation. Dwanyewest ( talk) 22:03, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
Justlettersandnumbers ( talk), William Harris talk , Cavalryman ( talk) I think this revised version or the ADBA see here User:Atsme/ADBA created by User:Atsme should replaced the current version of American Dog Breeders Association. What are other users thoughts? Dwanyewest ( talk) 16:17, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
The pix in the project template (top of this page i.e. Template:WikiProject Dogs) was recently changed from that of a coyote to that shown above - an artist's impression of a collection of domestic dogs. I would suggest that these types of changes should be first brought to this Talk page for discussion. The coyote was originally employed to highlight that WikiProject Dogs was now more about the subfamily Caninae and not just about the domestic dog Canis familiaris. I concur with the change, based on the reason that there are around 1 billion domestic dogs on this planet but only 7 million coyotes, therefore C. familiaris is the most appropriate representative. Whether an artwork is appropriate is a different issue. William Harris talk 05:18, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
Talk:Neapolitan Mastiff#Proposed merge of Cane da Presa Meridionale into Neapolitan Mastiff. Justlettersandnumbers ( talk) 22:03, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
An article of interest to the project— Sato (dog)—has been proposed for merging with Street dog#Puerto Rico. Project members are invited to participate at the merger discussion. Cavalryman ( talk) 04:31, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
An article of interest to the project— bandog—has been proposed for merging with mastiff. Project members are invited to participate at the merger discussion. Kind regards, Cavalryman ( talk) 22:28, 24 February 2020 (UTC).
Two articles of interested to the project have been requested to be moved:
Project members are invited to participate in the move discussions. Kind regards, Cavalryman ( talk) 12:22, 3 March 2020 (UTC).
Ovtcharka ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) has been nominated for deletion, project members are invited to comment a the article's entry at AfD. Kind regards, Cavalryman ( talk) 11:20, 4 March 2020 (UTC).
Xigou ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) has been nominated for deletion, project members are invited to comment a the article's entry at AfD. Kind regards, Cavalryman ( talk) 02:24, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
Three articles of interest to the project has been requested to be moved:
Project members are invited to participate in the move discussions. William Harris talk 03:13, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
Two article of interest to the project have been proposed for merging with German Shepherd:
Project members are invited to participate in the merger discussions. Cavalryman ( talk) 01:20, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
Two more have been nominated:
Kind regards, Cavalryman ( talk) 02:32, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
One more late nomination:
Kind regards, Cavalryman ( talk) 10:41, 5 March 2020 (UTC).
Please see discussion at Talk:List of dog breeds#Proposal:Simplification of list, project members are invited to participate. Cavalryman ( talk) 04:43, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
An article of interest to the project— Dog-baiting—has been proposed for merging with Baiting (blood sport). Project members are invited to participate at the merger discussion. Cavalryman ( talk) 02:10, 12 March 2020 (UTC)
I saw this come up in the new pages feed, and wasn't sure what to do with it. Move it to List of dog breeds from India? Nominate for deletion? Dogs are tricky, so I thought I'd post here. There was a PROD but it was contested. Enwebb ( talk) 03:15, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
Cierny Sery ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) has been nominated for deletion, project members are invited to comment a the article's entry at AfD. Kind regards, Cavalryman ( talk) 11:28, 18 March 2020 (UTC).
Old German Shepherd Dog ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) has been nominated for deletion, project members are invited to comment a the article's entry at AfD. Kind regards, Cavalryman ( talk) 10:00, 20 March 2020 (UTC).
Self colour ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) has been nominated for deletion, project members are invited to comment at the article's entry at AfD. Kind regards, Cavalryman ( talk) 01:34, 6 April 2020 (UTC).
American Rare Breed Association ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) has been nominated for deletion, project members are invited to comment at the article's entry at AfD. Kind regards, Cavalryman ( talk) 06:03, 6 April 2020 (UTC).
Several changes in a row were made by an
IP at
List of dog breeds, so take thought you might want to take a look.
Atsme
Talk
📧
02:15, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
Black and Tan Virginia Foxhound ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) has been nominated for deletion, project members are invited to comment at the article's entry at AfD. Kind regards, Cavalryman ( talk) 05:03, 17 April 2020 (UTC).
Does anyone know if the content from User:Atsme/ADBA is going to be merged with the American Dog Breeders Association article? Dwanyewest ( talk) 22:48, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
An article of interest to the project, Maremma Sheepdog, has been requested to be moved to Maremmano-Abruzzese Sheepdog. Project members are invited to participate in the move discussion. Cavalryman ( talk) 01:49, 14 May 2020 (UTC).
Argentine Pila Dog ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) has been nominated for deletion, project members are invited to comment at the article's entry at AfD. Kind regards, Cavalryman ( talk) 04:40, 14 May 2020 (UTC).
Australian Staghound ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) has been nominated for deletion, project members are invited to comment at the article's entry at AfD. Kind regards, Cavalryman ( talk) 11:02, 14 May 2020 (UTC).
Please see a discussion on a proposal to simplify the current list table on the Mastiff page at Talk:Mastiff#Proposal:Simplification of list, project members are invited to participate. Kind regards, Cavalryman ( talk) 05:24, 19 May 2020 (UTC).
Pandikona ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) has been nominated for deletion, project members are invited to comment at the article's entry at AfD. Kind regards, Cavalryman ( talk) 01:29, 20 May 2020 (UTC).
See Old English Terrier. After the perfunctory intro sentence, it launches into stuff like this (and doesn't get much better from there): "The Old English is a working and sporting terrier that is, in general, an exceptional athlete with a high, intense, and vigorous prey drive that is followed, if need be, by an awesome display of gameness." — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 01:42, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
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Old English Terrier has been proposed for merging with Black and Tan Terrier. Project members are invited to participate at the merger discussion. Kind regards, Cavalryman ( talk) 23:30, 4 June 2020 (UTC).
I was thinking that Bulldog breeds is a bunch of weird original research trying to link a bunch of unrelated breeds into a single classification, primarily to target them for breed-specific legislation. I checked, and this was already WP:AFDed almost a year ago, but survived by a "no consensus". I think this should probably be re-AfDed, with better-marshalled arguments, though I'm not personally in possession of sufficient breed-ancestry RS right now to approach this with the kind of solidity I would want to muster. Category:Bulldog breeds is arguably worse; it is nothing but a category for breeds that have "bulldog" in their name, regardless if there is any connection between them; this fails the "trivial intersection" test, and WP:CFD routinely deletes useless categories that are based on nothing but name similarity. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 03:49, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
Cavalryman, SMcCandlish, et al - Catahoula Leopard Dog - recent editing activity and questions on talk page. I barely have time to post this or I would help...thanks, folks. Atsme Talk 📧 15:44, 13 May 2020 (UTC)
Atsme & SMcCandlish, I have drafted a revised Cur article ( User:Cavalryman/Sandbox 3). I ask your opinions, I could create two stubs or combine them into a single article but it will be significantly weighted towards the extinct English cur. What are your thoughts? Kind regards, Cavalryman ( talk) 11:09, 9 June 2020 (UTC).
Does anyone think John P. Colby is deserving of a wikipedia article as he seems an influential figure in the American Pitbull Terrier breed. Dwanyewest ( talk)
I just moved the discussion & proposed guidelines for reliable sources from my user space to Wikipedia:WikiProject Dogs/Reliable sources. I was hoping we could turn that page into something like the following chart: Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources. We can discuss adding and rating sources on the WPDRS talk page where there is already some discussion. Pinging Justlettersandnumbers, Cavalryman, William Harris, and SMcCandlish. I hope other project members and interested parties will also contribute to this worthy cause. Atsme Talk 📧 12:41, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
Note: - I added the list by Cavalryman along with a few other sources by others to our WP:WikiProject Dogs/Reliable sources. If you see anything that needs changing or tweaking, please be bold. We should probably add a similar list of acceptable reliable sources. Atsme Talk 📧 12:40, 11 June 2020 (UTC)
Someone has decided to copy (not a WP:MOVE) the article Great Pyrenees→Pyrenean Mountain Dog, and it appears without discussion. I have no position on the naming but someone may. William Harris talk 12:56, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
An article of interest to the project— Poodle crossbreed—has been proposed for merging with Dog crossbreed. Project members are invited to participate at the merger discussion. Cavalryman ( talk) 01:18, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
Italian Shepherd ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) has been nominated for deletion, project members are invited to comment at the article's entry at AfD. Kind regards, Cavalryman ( talk) 04:19, 18 June 2020 (UTC).
At Talk:Molossus of Epirus#Proposed merge of Molossus (dog) with Molossus of Epirus. Justlettersandnumbers ( talk) 10:30, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
Please see discussion at Template talk:Infobox dog breed#New infobox now live. Cavalryman ( talk) 00:12, 22 June 2020 (UTC).
Gran Mastín de Borínquen ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) has been nominated for deletion, project members are invited to comment at the article's entry at AfD. Kind regards, Cavalryman ( talk) 01:36, 23 June 2020 (UTC).
Can some of the Project’s members review my attempts at sourcing Cavoodle? A brand new editor keeps reintroducing unsourced content and patently rubbish sources, it is proceeding towards edit war territory. Kind regards, Cavalryman ( talk) 08:40, 2 June 2020 (UTC).
Justlettersandnumbers, I believe our friend from Cavoodle, LeoRussoLeo ( talk · contribs), has returned as 65.183.144.120 ( talk · contribs · WHOIS), a lot of their language is the same and the IP seems to be solely used to edit disruptively on crossbreed dog articles and has now taken to tagging completely unrelated pages I have created with issues. Kind regards, Cavalryman ( talk) 15:08, 29 June 2020 (UTC).
Cavoodle has been proposed for merging with List of dog crossbreeds. Project members are invited to participate at the merger discussion. Kind regards, Cavalryman ( talk) 11:33, 15 June 2020 (UTC).
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Wikipedia talk:Sockpuppet investigations#Meatpuppetry reporting?
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Kunming wolfdog ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) has been nominated for deletion, project members are invited to comment at the article's entry at AfD. Kind regards, Cavalryman ( talk) 06:19, 2 July 2020 (UTC).
An article of interest to the project— Miniature Shar Pei—has been proposed for merging with Shar Pei. Project members are invited to participate at the merger discussion. Kind regards, Cavalryman ( talk) 00:57, 3 July 2020 (UTC).
Justlettersandnumbers, given your remarkable effort to ferret out a couple of sources for the Perdigueiro Galego, I am wondering if you know of any sources for the Sabueso Cántabro? Otherwise I fear it's not for the encyclopedia. Kind regards, Cavalryman ( talk) 05:54, 3 July 2020 (UTC).
I have hacked, slashed, rewritten, sourced and stubbed Northern Inuit Dog (AfD'd once) and Tamaskan Dog (AfD'd four times), according to one source it appears they both descend from a 1980s breeding project in the UK, the descendants of which include both these two "breeds" as well as the deleted Utonagan ( WP:Articles for deletion/Utonagan). Does anyone know of any other sources for the above breeding program, given the dire states of sources for both remaining articles it would be better to merge them into a single article. Kind regards, Cavalryman ( talk) 02:35, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
An article of interest to the project— Tamaskan Dog—has been proposed for merging with Northern Inuit Dog. Project members are invited to participate at the merger discussion. Kind regards, Cavalryman ( talk) 22:06, 3 July 2020 (UTC).
Template:Greenlandic dogs has been nominated for deletion. Project members are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Kind regards, Cavalryman ( talk) 04:02, 7 July 2020 (UTC).
Can anyone determine if the Carea Leonés is the recognised Perro Leonés de Pastor? Real Decreto 558/2001, cited on the page, mentions the latter but not the former. Cavalryman ( talk) 02:52, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
I have found - coming from our Main Page, section "Cleanup list" - a very powerful piece of software that lists all of the WP:DOG articles that have various issues/problems/faults and this list can be seen here. William Harris talk 11:28, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
I have just stumbled upon Portal:Dogs, apparently it is within the remit of this project and apparently it is one of Wikipedia's WP:Featured portals. I estimate 30% of the links on the page are redirects (some have been so for over a decade) and the lead appears to be a restricted to the domestic dog, as opposed to the broadened scope of this Wikiproject.
I suppose the question should be asked, is this portal still relevant (I personally have never quite understood the portal thing)?
I am currently trying to conduct a little tidy. Cavalryman ( talk) 04:08, 8 July 2020 (UTC).
Reference: Wikipedia:WikiProject Dogs - Main Page, box for To Do, the section Stubs. I have reviewed all of the WP:DOGS articles that were classified at Class=stub and Importance=Top or Mid (I am not concerned about Importance=low at this stage). Those articles that warranted being reclassified from stub→start have been so reclassified, leaving many still remaining at Class=stub. These are now listed on the Main Page, just in case a visitor has an interest in one or two of them. Don't be too surprised by the number. All of these articles relating to domestic dogs are also displayed on the dog portal. (Of course, some of these should be deleted on GNG, but we will get around to that.) William Harris talk 09:24, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
As a result of this bot message, I've moved Dog show to Dog show (disambiguation) and Conformation show to Dog show, per this unopposed talk-page proposal by SMcCandlish from 2016, and also per WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. I trust that will be acceptable to all? – if not, it can of course be undone. Anyway, all three pages may need a little massaging as a result, and I'm really not the person to do that. Any volunteers? Justlettersandnumbers ( talk) 22:14, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
Ratonero Murciano de Huerta ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) has been nominated for deletion, project members are invited to comment at the article's entry at AfD. Kind regards, Cavalryman ( talk) 05:46, 14 July 2020 (UTC).
Ameri-Indian Alaskan Husky ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) has been nominated for deletion, project members are invited to comment at the article's entry at AfD. Kind regards, Cavalryman ( talk) 00:07, 29 July 2020 (UTC).
After attempting to work on the Street dogs in Chennai article, I left a note at Talk:Street dogs in Chennai#Needs organization. Maybe someone can take a look for a fresh perspective. Thanks. Normal Op ( talk) 02:01, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
An list of interest to the project— List of extinct dog breeds—has been proposed for merging with List of dog breeds. Project members are invited to participate at the merger discussion. Kind regards, Cavalryman ( talk) 13:33, 1 August 2020 (UTC).
Reference: Wikipedia:WikiProject Dogs - Main Page, contents "4.2 Recent change patrolling". The recent changes list has not been reviewed for some time. With some data sorting and indexing behind the scenes, I have just added another 220 dog breeds and types articles to our watch list (yes, two hundred and twenty!) e.g. Karelo-Finnish Laika. This may mean that more changes will now be picked up on the list each day. William Harris talk 09:51, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
Street dogs in Chennai ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) has been nominated for deletion. Project members are invited to comment at the article's entry at AfD. Normal Op ( talk) 17:30, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
Hello all, two action items for your attention:
Please let me know over the next week if you believe that these are not appropriate actions. William Harris talk 09:43, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
Hello all, two action items for your attention:
Please let me know over the next week if you believe that these are not appropriate actions. William Harris talk 12:20, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
Is it ok to mention this dog in this section? If you have an opinion, please share at Talk:Pit_bull#Nipper_should_not_be_listed_in_'Notable_pit_bulls'_section. Gråbergs Gråa Sång ( talk) 10:40, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
An list of interest to the project— Gaddi Kutta—has been proposed for merging with Bhotia dog. Project members are invited to participate at the merger discussion. Kind regards, Cavalryman ( talk) 02:04, 12 August 2020 (UTC).
This is way outside my usual topic area, so excuse my ignorance. The Pomchi, Pomeranian Chihuahua mix, is a very common mixed breed. My dog is one. What am I missing here, is it just an oversight that there's no article, or...? Psiĥedelisto ( talk • contribs) please always ping! 01:40, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
I just added WikiProject Dogs to the Talk page banner of Muttshack Animal Rescue Foundation so the Dog project would get notified automatically when I submitted it to AfD. I had an earlier exchange with William Harris on another AfD about the Dog project wanting to get notified, which is why I'm thinking WPDogs is interested in the shelter articles. I have a list of other shelters/rescues to check on Wikipedia to either update, ignore, or AfD (depending on what I find). Since a wikiproject is ordinarily the one who chooses which articles they want under their wing, not random wiki editors, I am asking the project participants:
1. Do you want me to add the WikiProject Dogs banner to shelter/rescue article talk pages when I come across them? (unless they are cat-only)
2. If "no" to #1, would you want me to post a notice of AfD on this talk page if I submit a shelter article for AfD?
— Normal Op ( talk) 18:53, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
What are member's thoughts on https://www.agraria.org/ as RS? I am having trouble trying to work who/what produces it, I have been thrown by the ISSN 1970-2620 which is definitely registered to them [2] [3]. Is is a valid journal? Cavalryman ( talk) 05:16, 26 August 2020 (UTC).
I would like some other opinions. I have been encountering a lot of run-of-the-mill animal shelters that have had Wikipedia articles created. A particular editor made quite a handful of them. One of the sections that had been created for most of them is "Notable rescues" which are ordinary rescues/incidents that happened to get some sort of local news coverage. Now there's a difference between news coverage "about an organization" (that is used to determine if an organization is notable enough to have a wiki article) and articles about a local incident of an animal abuse/abandonment/injury that the local shelter then takes care of (which is a human interest story for local news coverage, and of course the intaking shelter will get a mention).
Per any dictionary definition of "notable", none of these rescue-incidents count as 'notable' and I feel that adding them to a shelter's article is UNDUE -- mostly because these are ordinary issues that any shelter handles daily. That the local paper picked up a particular story, doesn't make that particular rescue-incident notable. I also feel that mentioning them in a wiki article is WP:UNDUE because this is ordinary business/work for a shelter.
A really notable case might be a local hoarder that was raided by police and animal control, 200 animals were seized, and the shelter spent the next week finding alternative placement for that many animals because they couldn't handle that volume alone, or they rallied their local community to build new kennels within two days, getting donations of building supplies and volunteer labor (I just made that one up; not real). That might be notable. Or the effort Muttshack Animal Rescue Foundation made in the wake of Hurricane Katrina; they canoed around the flood for weeks, breaking into submerged houses to rescue pets... THAT was a notable effort. (Unfortunately for them, it seems to be the only notable effort they've made and their article might be deleted at AfD, though maybe a single heroic sustained event should count to keep that article.) I use that to illustrate the difference between whether a shelter organization is notable, or whether a rescue incident is notable. Muttshack-Katrina: notable incident, not notable org. Richmond Animal Protection Society may or may not be a notable org, but their list of 'notable rescues' is ordinary work for a shelter. The "50 dogs abandoned" is probably the only really unusual case, but is that notable, or WP:DUE? Are the rest? What about these sorts of sections?
I'd like some feedback on what others think about including ordinary rescue incidents in shelter articles. Please discuss. Thank you.
— Normal Op ( talk) 07:08, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
We had that conversation a little higher up this talk page. I am definitely making sure that shelters (those that have dogs, not just cats-only) are tagged for wikiproject dogs on their talk page before I nominate for AfD. Some bot will update the list at Wikipedia:WikiProject Dogs#Article alerts once every 24 hours. Normal Op ( talk) 23:29, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
Poll: Do the other WPDogs people wish me to add AfD notices on this talk page as well, or is the notice in 'Article alerts' sufficient? (The latter shows up in one's Watchlist, but the former does not.) Normal Op ( talk) 23:29, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
Animal Rescue Sofia ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) has been nominated for deletion. Project members are invited to comment at the article's entry at AfD. Normal Op ( talk) 16:21, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
Western Plains Animal Refuge ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) has been nominated for deletion. Project members are invited to comment at the article's entry at AfD. Normal Op ( talk) 03:21, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
Lottatore Brindisino ( | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) has been nominated for deletion, project members are invited to comment at the article's entry at AfD. Kind regards, Cavalryman ( talk) 03:27, 2 September 2020 (UTC).