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In light of the recent mass-AfD of a number of cycling articles I have come to seek discussion based upon the formatting of results sections on team pages and palmares sections of cyclists pages. Currently, the most common format is:
However some articles have the following formatting style:
To me, the second format just has an excessive number of commas in, making the overall list look a bit more messy. I know this may seem trivial, but I'm wondering whether there has ever been a consensus as to the style of these sections, and if not whether we ought to have. BaldBoris, I notice you have had experience of this on the Joe Dombrowski page and wondered what input/suggestions you might have? XyZAn ( talk) 17:44, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
I don't think a section with (solely) wins is justified. Most cyclist (60%-70%) have vary few wins. Having one result section streamlines the article. With that being said, what style do you'll prefer (I've seen all three, comma, half-comma, no-comma):
For the record, I don't see the point in changing the format on solid articles − at this moment it seems misguided. I don't mind streamlining the format on dreadful stubs. Buzzards-Watch Me Work ( talk) 02:07, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
Formatting method | Victory section extract with specified formatting | Proposer |
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#1 No comma |
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User:XyZAn |
#2 Comma |
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Buzzards |
#3 Omit |
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Sander.v.Ginkel |
Type | Example text |
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One day race wins e.g, Milan-San Remo |
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Overall stage race e.g, Vuelta a Espana |
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Stage race stage win e.g, Stage 10 Tour de France |
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Stage win with Overall race win |
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Harej ( talk) 16:57, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
For the 2015 season rankings (and the points systems) have been revamped - as a result the World Tour points allocation is drastically different. Instead of points goin to the top 10 on GC, they're awarded to the top 60 on GC, plus secondary classification, stages and points for holding the leaders jersey.
What are peoples thoughts about removing the points section in the "events" section on the 2015 UCI World Tour page? I've included brief explanations for each of the new ranking systems plus the break down of points etc so the point boxes in the table seem a little obsolete and it would look clearer just giving the riders that came 1st, 2nd and 3rd for each UWT event. XyZAn ( talk) 21:29, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
XyZAn has setup the Category:Cycling articles by importance structure. It's currently not working as the {{ WikiProject Cycling}} doesn't currently support the paramters. I've logged a note at VPT for help. Thanks. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 19:43, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
Hi all, I started creating country pasges of the the UCI Road World Championships, see 2013 UCI Road World Championships#Participating nations. I'm planning to make all these pages of the last >10 editions. However, before creating about 1000 of these pages, my question is: are these pages notable enough?
Thanks for your comments, Sander.v.Ginkel ( Je suis Charlie) 13:19, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
Hi. I'm a new-ish editor of Wikipedia. I recently created the article Fernando Gaviria, but I'm having trouble with the infobox. I can't get the medal table to work: when I include it, it makes the "updated..." section go over to the left side of the page. I've commented the relevant code out – could someone help me to fix it? Many thanks. Relentlessly ( talk) 23:27, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
I copied the following over from WT:WikiProject Tennis#Draft:Template:2015UCIProTeams. —PC -XT + 21:20, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
Could someone take a look at this please? If it's liked, I think the best procedure would just be to move it to template space, DGG ( talk ) 20:48, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
Sander.v.Ginkel created this great page. I was going to be bold and add it to the project's homepage, but I've come unstuck due to not knowing how the hell that works! I was going to add a link for missing articles under the heading "Important pages". Anyone know how you do this? I'm assuming no-one minds adding there either... Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 19:10, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
I've just looked on the UCI website [1] and they're now calling ProTeams - UCI WorldTeams - this does make more sense than ProTeam, but this raises another question. Do we need to update pages which have 'ProTeam' to 'WorldTeam' and is there a quick way to do all this? XyZAn ( talk) 16:24, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
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1988 UCI Road World Championships – Men's road race is currently at AfD. Thanks. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 17:56, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
In the month or so that I've been editing Wikipedia, I've been looking enviously at the French Wikipedia's cycling coverage, inevitably fuller than ours. It's also much prettier than ours. Compare, for example, 2015 Omloop Het Nieuwsblad and fr:Circuit Het Nieuwsblad 2015, and in particular the results tables. The French one is nicely laid out, whereas ours is quite clunky. Could we copy their formatting to some extent?
They have:
The last of these seems fairly unimportant to me, but the other three seem useful. Similarly, they have fr:Modèle:Maillot to make use of jersey images simpler. We could also duplicate this (though sadly {{ jersey}} already exists).
I've done a mock-up of the results of Het Nieuwsblad. This one ( example) follows our current pattern of using {{ flagathlete}}, while this one ( example) formats it in a style closer to the French manner.
Would this kind of template be useful? Is this the kind of formatting we want?
Relentlessly ( talk) 20:11, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
Sander.v.Ginkel, I have updated the template to match the colours in the infoboxes we use and I have removed the wikilinking. The templates seem good-to-go to me, so I have put it into 2015 Omloop Het Nieuwsblad and it looks fine to me. Relentlessly ( talk) 23:55, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
I started making the template. Now it is sooooo easy to make a cycling team list. No ct template anymore and seperate rows, you only have to put the cycling codes and once the year. All in one template :). See Template:Cyclingteamlist. Sander.v.Ginkel ( Je suis Charlie) 21:34, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
title
parameter? That way we could have separate tables for separating WorldTeams, etc., if desired?{{cyclingteamlist|team1=[[Unknown team]]|team2=[[Obscure team]]}}
.
Relentlessly (
talk)
22:47, 3 March 2015 (UTC)The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
I've been creating articles on WP since 2007, initially working on film related articles, but branching out into biographies of sportspeople. These have mainly focused on Olympians and cricketers. Both of these groups have broad definitions of notability at WP:NOLYMPICS and WP:NCRIC respectivly. In more recent years, I've began work on creating biographies for missing cyclists. This has included many cyclists who've ridden the Grand Tours, track cyclists and road race cyclists. Compared to the other two areas I've been working on, I think the cyclist notability to be a bit lacking.
For example, this Olympian competed in a one Olympic event more than 100 years ago. And this cricketer made a single appearance for his club in the 1850s. For both individuals, I doubt anything more will be written about them (I'd love to be proven wrong) and if they were taken to AfD, both would end in snow closes, per the previous cited policies as many similar AfDs have done.
Recently, I stumbled across this list which had alot of redlinks. I went through it and created about 40 basic stubs, including this one which was then taken to AfD (still open as of typing this, hopefully closed as keep...). I think that pretty much any (professional) cyclist who has been active in the last 10 years will probably meet WP:GNG with coverage more likely on the internet, as apposed to someone who was active 20 years or more.
Now I would like to believe any cyclist (male of female) riding professionaly for a top-level UCI team would be notable. Currently, that's not the case. The current notability guide states the cyclist has rode at the Olympics, a UCI World Championship or finished on the podium at a UCI World Cup. There's then a further set of criteria for male cyclists only. As a minimum, I feel this additional criteria should be updated for both male and female cyclists.
I posted on Sander.v.Ginkel talkpage about this, and he along with XyZAn have come up with some updated criteria. I'd like to get the view of the project to gain a consensus to expand and clarify the current notability guidance. I agree that not everyone who's ever gotten on a bike should get an article (I rode a bike once...), but I don't think the current guidence is fit for purpose. Here is the draft from Sander's talkpage (I'm sure he doesn't mind me pinching it!) :
Hopefully we can come up with some agreement and update the policy accordingly. Thanks. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 18:17, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
Notibility guide | Classification | Guidelines (Must fulfil 1 or a a number of the following) |
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Cyclists (Elite) | All | •Have competed in the Olympic Games •Have competed in the UCI World Championsips •Have competed in the UCI World Cups •Have scored a top-10 at Continental Championships (e.g, African, Asian, Oceanian etc) •Have scored top-10 at major international games (e.g, Commonwealths) •Have won a medal at one of their respective national championships *Have won a UCI ranked race (.WT to .2) •Have won a medal at a minor international event (e.g, Southeast Asian games, Pan Arab games etc) •Is the current/former world/national record holder in a cycling discipline |
Male | •Have ridden at least one Grand Tour •Ride for a world tour team | |
Female | •Ride for a UCI Womens team | |
Under 23 (U23) | •Scored top-10 in World Championships/Youth Olympics • Have medalled in Continental championships •Have won a UCI ranked race •Have won an U23 event at their national championships | |
Teams | All | •Team is notable if it has been ranked with the UCI, either; Pro team, Womens team, Pro Conti or Conti at some point in its activity |
Races | UCI ranked race | •Notable due to it being UCI ranked •Summary pages e.g, Tour of Oman, include a list of the winner of the race each year and the team they rode for • Annual race subpages include at minimum top-10 per stage and top-10 overall |
Non-UCI ranked | •Has had significant national media coverage (e.g,
Parel van de Veluwe and
Post–Tour de France criteriums) •Summary page includes a list of winners per race per year. |
And what about critera for nation at championships pages. There are now overview pages, with sub-pages for specific years (like with the team pages, team season pages), for World championships as wel as European championships for the different cycling disciplines. I would give some examples from the Netherlands articles.
- Example overview page for the UCI Road World Championships:
Netherlands at the UCI Road World Championships, example year page
Netherlands at the 2013 UCI Road World Championships.
- Example overview page Track World Championships:
Netherlands at the UCI Track Cycling World Championships, example year page:
Netherlands at the 2011 UCI Track Cycling World Championships
- Example overview page Road European Championships:
Netherlands at the European Road Championships, example year page:
Netherlands at the 2009 European Road Championships
- Example over page European Track Championships:
Netherlands at the European Track Championships, example year page:
Netherlands at the 2012 UEC European Track Championships
Question If people don't fall within these critea and do not have broad coverage, should they be deleted? Examples: A professional cyclo cross cyclist: José Antonio Díez. And with a quick search of Commonwealth cyclists I found many articles, here a few: Dave Rand, Sion Jones, Clare Greenwood, Chris Williams (cyclist), Will Wright (cyclist), Alun Owen (cyclist), Roger Pratt (cyclist), Eddie Smart, John Dyer (cyclist). Sander.v.Ginkel ( Je suis Charlie) 09:08, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
OK people - last time I check this I thought we were going to have a consensus by Sunday. Having read all of the above what about the following compromise and proposal ( Buzzards-Watch Me Work I've taken your proposal as my basis):
The main bones of contention seem to be coming from the mens side but I'll summarise what I've added to compromise:
If we have a cyclist who doesn't conform to the above guide then we should create the page, if it is AfD'd we can then discuss the merits of whether or not is meets the guide or what interpretation and exceptions should/should not be made.
Thoughts; Sander.v.Ginkel, Lugnuts, Buzzards-Watch Me Work, Relentlessly, JudoonCyclist?
XyZAn ( talk) 18:10, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
Below is the final draft. Add support/oppose, below, and we'll go with the majority and update the WP:NCYC criteria.
Several races, Tour of Flanders, strade Bianchi, omloop het nieuwsblad and many more have a Women's and a men's race. Shall I make for the infoboxes apart parameters (first edition, first winner, last winner, numer of editons) for the two different editions? Sander.v.Ginkel ( Je suis Charlie) 13:26, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
Anyone know why the right-hand panel on Wikipedia:WikiProject Cycling is broken? Didn't it once have a picture of some skeletons on bikes? Not sure how you fix it TBH! Thanks. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 19:22, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
A while ago I started creating Template:Cyclingresult, to make it easier to make results tables. As for a given cyclist the team in that year is the same, I'm now improving the template with Template:Cyclingresult2. While using this template, you don't have to put the nation and the team of the cyclist, that info is in Template:Cyclist data 2015 (only women's cyclists at the moment). Also you don't have to know if the cyclist is a disambiguous page. If the cyclist is added to Template:Cyclist name, never disamb links anymore! So for instance this code (including disamb Sara Mustonen):
{{cyclingresult start}} {{cyclingresult2|1|Jolien D'Hoore|2015|3h 03' 16"|{{Cjersey|yellow|General classification}}{{Cjersey|green|Sprint classification|}}}} {{cyclingresult2|2|Chantal Blaak|2015|+ 0"}} {{cyclingresult2|3|Sara Mustonen|2015|+ 0"}} {{cyclingresult2|4|Coryn Rivera|2015|+ 0"}} {{cyclingresult2|5|Janneke Ensing|2015|+ 0"|{{Cjersey|red|Mountain classification}}}} {{cyclingresult2|6|Sheyla Gutiérrez|2015|+ 0"}} {{cyclingresult2|7|Lauren Kitchen|2015|+ 0"}} {{cyclingresult2|8|Amy Pieters|2015|+ 0"}} {{cyclingresult2|9|Chloe Hosking|2015|+ 0"}} {{cyclingresult2|10|Tatiana Guderzo|2015|+ 6"}} {{cyclingresult end}}
gives:
{{cyclingresult start}}
{{cyclingresult2|1|Jolien D'Hoore|2015|3h 03' 16"|{{Cjersey|yellow|General classification}}{{Cjersey|green|Sprint classification|}}}}
{{cyclingresult2|2|Chantal Blaak|2015|+ 0"}}
{{cyclingresult2|3|Sara Mustonen|2015|+ 0"}}
{{cyclingresult2|4|Coryn Rivera|2015|+ 0"}}
{{cyclingresult2|5|Janneke Ensing|2015|+ 0"|{{Cjersey|red|Mountain classification}}}}
{{cyclingresult2|6|Sheyla Gutiérrez|2015|+ 0"}}
{{cyclingresult2|7|Lauren Kitchen|2015|+ 0"}}
{{cyclingresult2|8|Amy Pieters|2015|+ 0"}}
{{cyclingresult2|9|Chloe Hosking|2015|+ 0"}}
{{cyclingresult2|10|Tatiana Guderzo|2015|+ 6"}}
{{cyclingresult end}}
Sander.v.Ginkel ( Je suis Charlie) 23:03, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
If someone has one good reference, this article ( Draft:Burnaby Velodrome) can be created! Would be a shame if not... Sander.v.Ginkel ( Je suis Charlie) 15:35, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
Not sure what the procedure here is - Wikipedia has the BOA code linking to the Portuguese team Radio Popular Boavista - who are now coded RPB. The BOA code should, for 2015 be linked to Bora Argon. Is there a straightforward way of solving this, or do we need to shift the old BOA template to RPB and find any article using BOA code to refer to the more obscure Portuguese team and correct it? Average Earthman ( talk) 12:50, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
Bald Boris asked on my talk page why the CT template is linking to season page (see old topic: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cycling/Archive 11#Change request 'ct' template). As it becomes more or less a general discussion I post it here.
Does anyone have anymore info on why this category exists? I've dropped a note on Frietjes talkpage, who created it, but I wondered if anyone here knows more about it. It populates when teams are added to the cycling infobox on biographies. I would have thought this would be useful and not something to tag as deprecated. Thanks. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 10:37, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
<br />
is added to the proyears
or proteams
parameters. Presumably it's recommended that we use proyears1
, proteams1
, etc. This seems like a decent suggestion to me, though I rather think the category could do with renaming. If we're really bothered about it, I imagine a bot could be written to do the migration.
Relentlessly (
talk)
11:08, 19 March 2015 (UTC)proyears1=
. Does anyone have an example of what the wikicode should look like? @
Lugnuts? Thanks.
Relentlessly (
talk)
23:20, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
proteams1
rather than proteam1
. Is this something that we care particularly about? There are 1750 pages in the category. I've been looking at
WP:BOTS recently and I'm sure I could whip something up to sort this out fairly quickly.
Relentlessly (
talk)
08:20, 20 March 2015 (UTC)On the page World record progression track cycling – Men's flying 200 m time trial, the record of J. F. Kennedy of 20 August 199? was deleted, because it was linked to J. F. Kennedy (president). I reverted it because he is listed in the official reference of the UCI (see here). I wanted to find his real name, but the only American cyclist named Kennedy I can find are John Kennedy Howard (professional untill 1987) who was never active on the track, A-J Kennedy (acitve 1896-1900) and Thomas Kennedy (active 1917). There was a former 1960 Tour de France British cyclist named John Kennedy see here, but he was active untill 1960. (and other J. or F. Kennedy cyclists who won't be this person Johnny Kennedy, Jimmy Kennedy, Jamie Kennedy, Johnny Kennedy, Frank Kennedy)
So is this a joke of the UCI (not that also the date of this record not complete!), or who is this guy? Sander.v.Ginkel ( Je suis Charlie) 12:24, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
I've just been looking at Tabriz Shahrdari Team team page and noticed the following user had made a couple of edit User:Tstcycling. Not sure whether looking at their user page this represents a Conflict of Interest and where/whether it needs reporting - just thought I'd give a heads up. XyZAn ( talk) 21:13, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
It's raining new templates here :). I just created templates for small cycling jerseys. So you dont have to put [[File:Jersey yellow.svg|20px|Yellow jersey]] anymore behind the name, you can just use {{Yellow jersey}} and gives
. To see the discription see
Template:Yellow jersey#Jerseys. I just created a few, feel free to add more jerseys!
Sander.v.Ginkel (
Je suis Charlie)
10:57, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
{{cjersey|yellow|General classification}}
title
attribute but no link.
Relentlessly (
talk)
15:27, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
@ BaldBoris: Why did you remove the navboxes added to cycling trade team articles by 37.54.221.20 ( talk · contribs · WHOIS) with the explanation of "unconstructive editing"?
For example, Team Sky is the parent article for both {{ Team Sky seasons}} and {{ Sky riders}}. By normal navbox convention, a navbox goes at the foot of every page that it links to. Lets follow that convention here at Team Sky unless it would be unhelpful to readers if we do.
I searched the project archive for 'navbox' but didn't spot a previous discussion. If I have missed it, please link me to it.
-- Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) ( Talk) 11:10, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
Sounds like a reasonable compromise if someone wants to restore the seasons navboxes, but omit the riders ones. These articles are already long and too much redundant and hidden text adds to any pain that a user of dial-up or 2G internet might feel. -- Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) ( Talk) 15:47, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
There are a lot of requests to http://62.50.72.82/ ( special:Linksearch/*.62.50.72.82) which seems part of UCI. Some they are dead or problematic and they are in need of a clean up, conversion to a non-numeric domain, if possible, or dead linked. Many of the early urls are simple dead, eg. http://62.50.72.82/UCIBWS/%28S%28umtrsblwhc3k0lvv40meb2rf%29%29/Teams/detail/en/ROA/2996
It would be useful if someone more knowledgeable of this matter could resolve it and put any bot requests to Wikipedia:Bot requests. Thanks. — billinghurst sDrewth 04:02, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
Please see the discussion here. Thanks. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 09:31, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
There is a template talk page discussion regarding the graphics used for medalists in infobox medals tables occurring at Template talk:Medal#Changing from gold/silver/bronze to 1/2/3. As this discussion is within the scope of WP:cycling, you are invited to make your comments on the recent graphics changes there. Cheers. Dirtlawyer1 ( talk) 15:49, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
Is the word "Overall" redundant when used in the Palmares section for a cyclist? Some articles use it for every single result, some articles don't use it at all, and worst of all, some have a mix of using it and not using it. Michał Kwiatkowski is a good/bad example. 2007, 2008 and 2009 no "overall". 2010 uses it for each result. 2011 is a mix and so on. Is there a MOS on this? Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 09:31, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
Dear Sir,
Regarding the cycling Tour of Bulgaria, I've got (much) better detailed records to offer. How do you want me to show my records ? How do I do that ? How do I contact you ?
Hoping to hear from you soon, with a positive answer........ I remain, Sir, all yours in Cycling.
Danyel — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.122.132.235 ( talk) 15:11, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
Please see the AfD here which also includes the articles for List of Vuelta a España classification winners and List of Tour de France secondary classification winners. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 09:55, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
For the past few weeks I have worked on the article about the Tour of Flanders. Originally it was a bold move to make the articles about all the one-day monument classics more comprehensive, seeing that only the Paris-Roubaix article was actually extensive. It was one of my first really elaborate contributions, getting slightly out of hand and taking me a lot more time than I anticipated. I realize some sections need additional or better referencing, but I will work on it and any help in that area is welcome.
One thing that bothers me is that I could not find an image of the route of the Tour of Flanders on the commons page, neither recent or older. I put in a picture of Bruges, which is pretty but not all that relevant. If anyone could help out, that would be wonderful. Thanks. Dr.robin ( talk) 15:43, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
Hi, the following message was posted on my talk page by Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick:
Hi @ Frietjes: I work on the Franch Wikipedia, and more on Wikimedia Commons to illustrate cyclists. I see you create Module:Infobox cyclist tracking. Did you know that it is possible to use datas from Wikidata ? I prepared Module:Infobox/Cycliste. It doesn't applicate on the French Wikipedia because we don't already have the arbitrary access.
For cycling races, Module:Infobox/Descriptif course cycliste is working, but it lacks few properties (example : Tour du Limbourg 2015). Is it possible you start to adapt Template:Infobox cycling race report ? New properties about classification should arrive during the summer. That will permit we will start to work together English/French on Wikidata, and be more efficient. (sorry for my bad English, but we are not good on other languages in France...) Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick ( talk) 09:19, 19 June 2015 (UTC) PS : Module:Infobox cycling race report
Basically, the proposal is to enable the cycling infoboxes to pull data directly from WikiData. this will allow editors on "other language wikis" to contribute without editing the English site directly. for examples see d:Q105542 for Miguel Indurain. the typical method is to (1) check for the value within infobox in the article, (2) if it isn't defined then check/get the value from wikidata. from the example posted by Jérémy, it looks like we could be using the following data for cyclists (not all is applicable)
Wikidata Property | Description |
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P1449 | Nickname |
P1477 | Birth name |
P569 | Birth date |
P570 | Death date |
P27 | Nationality |
P103 | Native language |
P413 | Speciality |
P552 | Handedness |
P1340 | Eye colour |
P1884 | Hair colour |
P1853 | Blood type |
for cycling race reports you can see the properties listed in Module:Infobox cycling race report. I could make a similar table as the one above if that's useful. Frietjes ( talk) 13:46, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
I don't know whoever changed it, but the purple portion Infobox cycling race report used to have the text in the purple centered but now its aligned to the left. It's a small change but it's also rather unappealing looking. Could we get it changed back? Disc Wheel ( Talk + Tontributions) 00:58, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
Please see the discussion here. Thanks. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 17:42, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
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For info, I've created this template - {{ ProCyclingStats}}. It's based on the {{ Cycling Archives}} template. Thanks. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 12:25, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
I've recently transferred tons of photos from Flickr to Commons that may need categorising if anyone's up for it. Bald Boris 23:41, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
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In light of the recent mass-AfD of a number of cycling articles I have come to seek discussion based upon the formatting of results sections on team pages and palmares sections of cyclists pages. Currently, the most common format is:
However some articles have the following formatting style:
To me, the second format just has an excessive number of commas in, making the overall list look a bit more messy. I know this may seem trivial, but I'm wondering whether there has ever been a consensus as to the style of these sections, and if not whether we ought to have. BaldBoris, I notice you have had experience of this on the Joe Dombrowski page and wondered what input/suggestions you might have? XyZAn ( talk) 17:44, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
I don't think a section with (solely) wins is justified. Most cyclist (60%-70%) have vary few wins. Having one result section streamlines the article. With that being said, what style do you'll prefer (I've seen all three, comma, half-comma, no-comma):
For the record, I don't see the point in changing the format on solid articles − at this moment it seems misguided. I don't mind streamlining the format on dreadful stubs. Buzzards-Watch Me Work ( talk) 02:07, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
Formatting method | Victory section extract with specified formatting | Proposer |
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#1 No comma |
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User:XyZAn |
#2 Comma |
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Buzzards |
#3 Omit |
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Sander.v.Ginkel |
Type | Example text |
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One day race wins e.g, Milan-San Remo |
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Overall stage race e.g, Vuelta a Espana |
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Stage race stage win e.g, Stage 10 Tour de France |
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Stage win with Overall race win |
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Harej ( talk) 16:57, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
For the 2015 season rankings (and the points systems) have been revamped - as a result the World Tour points allocation is drastically different. Instead of points goin to the top 10 on GC, they're awarded to the top 60 on GC, plus secondary classification, stages and points for holding the leaders jersey.
What are peoples thoughts about removing the points section in the "events" section on the 2015 UCI World Tour page? I've included brief explanations for each of the new ranking systems plus the break down of points etc so the point boxes in the table seem a little obsolete and it would look clearer just giving the riders that came 1st, 2nd and 3rd for each UWT event. XyZAn ( talk) 21:29, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
XyZAn has setup the Category:Cycling articles by importance structure. It's currently not working as the {{ WikiProject Cycling}} doesn't currently support the paramters. I've logged a note at VPT for help. Thanks. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 19:43, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
Hi all, I started creating country pasges of the the UCI Road World Championships, see 2013 UCI Road World Championships#Participating nations. I'm planning to make all these pages of the last >10 editions. However, before creating about 1000 of these pages, my question is: are these pages notable enough?
Thanks for your comments, Sander.v.Ginkel ( Je suis Charlie) 13:19, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
Hi. I'm a new-ish editor of Wikipedia. I recently created the article Fernando Gaviria, but I'm having trouble with the infobox. I can't get the medal table to work: when I include it, it makes the "updated..." section go over to the left side of the page. I've commented the relevant code out – could someone help me to fix it? Many thanks. Relentlessly ( talk) 23:27, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
I copied the following over from WT:WikiProject Tennis#Draft:Template:2015UCIProTeams. —PC -XT + 21:20, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
Could someone take a look at this please? If it's liked, I think the best procedure would just be to move it to template space, DGG ( talk ) 20:48, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
Sander.v.Ginkel created this great page. I was going to be bold and add it to the project's homepage, but I've come unstuck due to not knowing how the hell that works! I was going to add a link for missing articles under the heading "Important pages". Anyone know how you do this? I'm assuming no-one minds adding there either... Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 19:10, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
I've just looked on the UCI website [1] and they're now calling ProTeams - UCI WorldTeams - this does make more sense than ProTeam, but this raises another question. Do we need to update pages which have 'ProTeam' to 'WorldTeam' and is there a quick way to do all this? XyZAn ( talk) 16:24, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
Hi everybody. On behalf of the teams behind the Wikipedia Primary School research project, I would like to announce that the article Bicycle (of interest to this wikiproject) was selected a while ago to be reviewed by an external expert. We'd now like to ask interested editors to join our efforts and improve the article before March 15, 2015 (any timezone) as they see fit; a revision will be then sent to the designated expert for review (please see the article's talk page for details). Any notes and remarks written by the external expert will be made available on the article's talk page under a CC-BY-SA license as soon as possible, so that you can read them, discuss them and then decide if and how to use them. Please sign up here to let us know you're collaborating. Thanks a lot for your support! Elitre (WPS) ( talk) 16:55, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
1988 UCI Road World Championships – Men's road race is currently at AfD. Thanks. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 17:56, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
In the month or so that I've been editing Wikipedia, I've been looking enviously at the French Wikipedia's cycling coverage, inevitably fuller than ours. It's also much prettier than ours. Compare, for example, 2015 Omloop Het Nieuwsblad and fr:Circuit Het Nieuwsblad 2015, and in particular the results tables. The French one is nicely laid out, whereas ours is quite clunky. Could we copy their formatting to some extent?
They have:
The last of these seems fairly unimportant to me, but the other three seem useful. Similarly, they have fr:Modèle:Maillot to make use of jersey images simpler. We could also duplicate this (though sadly {{ jersey}} already exists).
I've done a mock-up of the results of Het Nieuwsblad. This one ( example) follows our current pattern of using {{ flagathlete}}, while this one ( example) formats it in a style closer to the French manner.
Would this kind of template be useful? Is this the kind of formatting we want?
Relentlessly ( talk) 20:11, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
Sander.v.Ginkel, I have updated the template to match the colours in the infoboxes we use and I have removed the wikilinking. The templates seem good-to-go to me, so I have put it into 2015 Omloop Het Nieuwsblad and it looks fine to me. Relentlessly ( talk) 23:55, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
I started making the template. Now it is sooooo easy to make a cycling team list. No ct template anymore and seperate rows, you only have to put the cycling codes and once the year. All in one template :). See Template:Cyclingteamlist. Sander.v.Ginkel ( Je suis Charlie) 21:34, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
title
parameter? That way we could have separate tables for separating WorldTeams, etc., if desired?{{cyclingteamlist|team1=[[Unknown team]]|team2=[[Obscure team]]}}
.
Relentlessly (
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22:47, 3 March 2015 (UTC)The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
I've been creating articles on WP since 2007, initially working on film related articles, but branching out into biographies of sportspeople. These have mainly focused on Olympians and cricketers. Both of these groups have broad definitions of notability at WP:NOLYMPICS and WP:NCRIC respectivly. In more recent years, I've began work on creating biographies for missing cyclists. This has included many cyclists who've ridden the Grand Tours, track cyclists and road race cyclists. Compared to the other two areas I've been working on, I think the cyclist notability to be a bit lacking.
For example, this Olympian competed in a one Olympic event more than 100 years ago. And this cricketer made a single appearance for his club in the 1850s. For both individuals, I doubt anything more will be written about them (I'd love to be proven wrong) and if they were taken to AfD, both would end in snow closes, per the previous cited policies as many similar AfDs have done.
Recently, I stumbled across this list which had alot of redlinks. I went through it and created about 40 basic stubs, including this one which was then taken to AfD (still open as of typing this, hopefully closed as keep...). I think that pretty much any (professional) cyclist who has been active in the last 10 years will probably meet WP:GNG with coverage more likely on the internet, as apposed to someone who was active 20 years or more.
Now I would like to believe any cyclist (male of female) riding professionaly for a top-level UCI team would be notable. Currently, that's not the case. The current notability guide states the cyclist has rode at the Olympics, a UCI World Championship or finished on the podium at a UCI World Cup. There's then a further set of criteria for male cyclists only. As a minimum, I feel this additional criteria should be updated for both male and female cyclists.
I posted on Sander.v.Ginkel talkpage about this, and he along with XyZAn have come up with some updated criteria. I'd like to get the view of the project to gain a consensus to expand and clarify the current notability guidance. I agree that not everyone who's ever gotten on a bike should get an article (I rode a bike once...), but I don't think the current guidence is fit for purpose. Here is the draft from Sander's talkpage (I'm sure he doesn't mind me pinching it!) :
Hopefully we can come up with some agreement and update the policy accordingly. Thanks. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 18:17, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
Notibility guide | Classification | Guidelines (Must fulfil 1 or a a number of the following) |
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Cyclists (Elite) | All | •Have competed in the Olympic Games •Have competed in the UCI World Championsips •Have competed in the UCI World Cups •Have scored a top-10 at Continental Championships (e.g, African, Asian, Oceanian etc) •Have scored top-10 at major international games (e.g, Commonwealths) •Have won a medal at one of their respective national championships *Have won a UCI ranked race (.WT to .2) •Have won a medal at a minor international event (e.g, Southeast Asian games, Pan Arab games etc) •Is the current/former world/national record holder in a cycling discipline |
Male | •Have ridden at least one Grand Tour •Ride for a world tour team | |
Female | •Ride for a UCI Womens team | |
Under 23 (U23) | •Scored top-10 in World Championships/Youth Olympics • Have medalled in Continental championships •Have won a UCI ranked race •Have won an U23 event at their national championships | |
Teams | All | •Team is notable if it has been ranked with the UCI, either; Pro team, Womens team, Pro Conti or Conti at some point in its activity |
Races | UCI ranked race | •Notable due to it being UCI ranked •Summary pages e.g, Tour of Oman, include a list of the winner of the race each year and the team they rode for • Annual race subpages include at minimum top-10 per stage and top-10 overall |
Non-UCI ranked | •Has had significant national media coverage (e.g,
Parel van de Veluwe and
Post–Tour de France criteriums) •Summary page includes a list of winners per race per year. |
And what about critera for nation at championships pages. There are now overview pages, with sub-pages for specific years (like with the team pages, team season pages), for World championships as wel as European championships for the different cycling disciplines. I would give some examples from the Netherlands articles.
- Example overview page for the UCI Road World Championships:
Netherlands at the UCI Road World Championships, example year page
Netherlands at the 2013 UCI Road World Championships.
- Example overview page Track World Championships:
Netherlands at the UCI Track Cycling World Championships, example year page:
Netherlands at the 2011 UCI Track Cycling World Championships
- Example overview page Road European Championships:
Netherlands at the European Road Championships, example year page:
Netherlands at the 2009 European Road Championships
- Example over page European Track Championships:
Netherlands at the European Track Championships, example year page:
Netherlands at the 2012 UEC European Track Championships
Question If people don't fall within these critea and do not have broad coverage, should they be deleted? Examples: A professional cyclo cross cyclist: José Antonio Díez. And with a quick search of Commonwealth cyclists I found many articles, here a few: Dave Rand, Sion Jones, Clare Greenwood, Chris Williams (cyclist), Will Wright (cyclist), Alun Owen (cyclist), Roger Pratt (cyclist), Eddie Smart, John Dyer (cyclist). Sander.v.Ginkel ( Je suis Charlie) 09:08, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
OK people - last time I check this I thought we were going to have a consensus by Sunday. Having read all of the above what about the following compromise and proposal ( Buzzards-Watch Me Work I've taken your proposal as my basis):
The main bones of contention seem to be coming from the mens side but I'll summarise what I've added to compromise:
If we have a cyclist who doesn't conform to the above guide then we should create the page, if it is AfD'd we can then discuss the merits of whether or not is meets the guide or what interpretation and exceptions should/should not be made.
Thoughts; Sander.v.Ginkel, Lugnuts, Buzzards-Watch Me Work, Relentlessly, JudoonCyclist?
XyZAn ( talk) 18:10, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
Below is the final draft. Add support/oppose, below, and we'll go with the majority and update the WP:NCYC criteria.
Several races, Tour of Flanders, strade Bianchi, omloop het nieuwsblad and many more have a Women's and a men's race. Shall I make for the infoboxes apart parameters (first edition, first winner, last winner, numer of editons) for the two different editions? Sander.v.Ginkel ( Je suis Charlie) 13:26, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
Anyone know why the right-hand panel on Wikipedia:WikiProject Cycling is broken? Didn't it once have a picture of some skeletons on bikes? Not sure how you fix it TBH! Thanks. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 19:22, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
A while ago I started creating Template:Cyclingresult, to make it easier to make results tables. As for a given cyclist the team in that year is the same, I'm now improving the template with Template:Cyclingresult2. While using this template, you don't have to put the nation and the team of the cyclist, that info is in Template:Cyclist data 2015 (only women's cyclists at the moment). Also you don't have to know if the cyclist is a disambiguous page. If the cyclist is added to Template:Cyclist name, never disamb links anymore! So for instance this code (including disamb Sara Mustonen):
{{cyclingresult start}} {{cyclingresult2|1|Jolien D'Hoore|2015|3h 03' 16"|{{Cjersey|yellow|General classification}}{{Cjersey|green|Sprint classification|}}}} {{cyclingresult2|2|Chantal Blaak|2015|+ 0"}} {{cyclingresult2|3|Sara Mustonen|2015|+ 0"}} {{cyclingresult2|4|Coryn Rivera|2015|+ 0"}} {{cyclingresult2|5|Janneke Ensing|2015|+ 0"|{{Cjersey|red|Mountain classification}}}} {{cyclingresult2|6|Sheyla Gutiérrez|2015|+ 0"}} {{cyclingresult2|7|Lauren Kitchen|2015|+ 0"}} {{cyclingresult2|8|Amy Pieters|2015|+ 0"}} {{cyclingresult2|9|Chloe Hosking|2015|+ 0"}} {{cyclingresult2|10|Tatiana Guderzo|2015|+ 6"}} {{cyclingresult end}}
gives:
{{cyclingresult start}}
{{cyclingresult2|1|Jolien D'Hoore|2015|3h 03' 16"|{{Cjersey|yellow|General classification}}{{Cjersey|green|Sprint classification|}}}}
{{cyclingresult2|2|Chantal Blaak|2015|+ 0"}}
{{cyclingresult2|3|Sara Mustonen|2015|+ 0"}}
{{cyclingresult2|4|Coryn Rivera|2015|+ 0"}}
{{cyclingresult2|5|Janneke Ensing|2015|+ 0"|{{Cjersey|red|Mountain classification}}}}
{{cyclingresult2|6|Sheyla Gutiérrez|2015|+ 0"}}
{{cyclingresult2|7|Lauren Kitchen|2015|+ 0"}}
{{cyclingresult2|8|Amy Pieters|2015|+ 0"}}
{{cyclingresult2|9|Chloe Hosking|2015|+ 0"}}
{{cyclingresult2|10|Tatiana Guderzo|2015|+ 6"}}
{{cyclingresult end}}
Sander.v.Ginkel ( Je suis Charlie) 23:03, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
If someone has one good reference, this article ( Draft:Burnaby Velodrome) can be created! Would be a shame if not... Sander.v.Ginkel ( Je suis Charlie) 15:35, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
Not sure what the procedure here is - Wikipedia has the BOA code linking to the Portuguese team Radio Popular Boavista - who are now coded RPB. The BOA code should, for 2015 be linked to Bora Argon. Is there a straightforward way of solving this, or do we need to shift the old BOA template to RPB and find any article using BOA code to refer to the more obscure Portuguese team and correct it? Average Earthman ( talk) 12:50, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
Bald Boris asked on my talk page why the CT template is linking to season page (see old topic: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cycling/Archive 11#Change request 'ct' template). As it becomes more or less a general discussion I post it here.
Does anyone have anymore info on why this category exists? I've dropped a note on Frietjes talkpage, who created it, but I wondered if anyone here knows more about it. It populates when teams are added to the cycling infobox on biographies. I would have thought this would be useful and not something to tag as deprecated. Thanks. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 10:37, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
<br />
is added to the proyears
or proteams
parameters. Presumably it's recommended that we use proyears1
, proteams1
, etc. This seems like a decent suggestion to me, though I rather think the category could do with renaming. If we're really bothered about it, I imagine a bot could be written to do the migration.
Relentlessly (
talk)
11:08, 19 March 2015 (UTC)proyears1=
. Does anyone have an example of what the wikicode should look like? @
Lugnuts? Thanks.
Relentlessly (
talk)
23:20, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
proteams1
rather than proteam1
. Is this something that we care particularly about? There are 1750 pages in the category. I've been looking at
WP:BOTS recently and I'm sure I could whip something up to sort this out fairly quickly.
Relentlessly (
talk)
08:20, 20 March 2015 (UTC)On the page World record progression track cycling – Men's flying 200 m time trial, the record of J. F. Kennedy of 20 August 199? was deleted, because it was linked to J. F. Kennedy (president). I reverted it because he is listed in the official reference of the UCI (see here). I wanted to find his real name, but the only American cyclist named Kennedy I can find are John Kennedy Howard (professional untill 1987) who was never active on the track, A-J Kennedy (acitve 1896-1900) and Thomas Kennedy (active 1917). There was a former 1960 Tour de France British cyclist named John Kennedy see here, but he was active untill 1960. (and other J. or F. Kennedy cyclists who won't be this person Johnny Kennedy, Jimmy Kennedy, Jamie Kennedy, Johnny Kennedy, Frank Kennedy)
So is this a joke of the UCI (not that also the date of this record not complete!), or who is this guy? Sander.v.Ginkel ( Je suis Charlie) 12:24, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
I've just been looking at Tabriz Shahrdari Team team page and noticed the following user had made a couple of edit User:Tstcycling. Not sure whether looking at their user page this represents a Conflict of Interest and where/whether it needs reporting - just thought I'd give a heads up. XyZAn ( talk) 21:13, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
It's raining new templates here :). I just created templates for small cycling jerseys. So you dont have to put [[File:Jersey yellow.svg|20px|Yellow jersey]] anymore behind the name, you can just use {{Yellow jersey}} and gives
. To see the discription see
Template:Yellow jersey#Jerseys. I just created a few, feel free to add more jerseys!
Sander.v.Ginkel (
Je suis Charlie)
10:57, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
{{cjersey|yellow|General classification}}
title
attribute but no link.
Relentlessly (
talk)
15:27, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
@ BaldBoris: Why did you remove the navboxes added to cycling trade team articles by 37.54.221.20 ( talk · contribs · WHOIS) with the explanation of "unconstructive editing"?
For example, Team Sky is the parent article for both {{ Team Sky seasons}} and {{ Sky riders}}. By normal navbox convention, a navbox goes at the foot of every page that it links to. Lets follow that convention here at Team Sky unless it would be unhelpful to readers if we do.
I searched the project archive for 'navbox' but didn't spot a previous discussion. If I have missed it, please link me to it.
-- Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) ( Talk) 11:10, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
Sounds like a reasonable compromise if someone wants to restore the seasons navboxes, but omit the riders ones. These articles are already long and too much redundant and hidden text adds to any pain that a user of dial-up or 2G internet might feel. -- Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) ( Talk) 15:47, 2 April 2015 (UTC)
There are a lot of requests to http://62.50.72.82/ ( special:Linksearch/*.62.50.72.82) which seems part of UCI. Some they are dead or problematic and they are in need of a clean up, conversion to a non-numeric domain, if possible, or dead linked. Many of the early urls are simple dead, eg. http://62.50.72.82/UCIBWS/%28S%28umtrsblwhc3k0lvv40meb2rf%29%29/Teams/detail/en/ROA/2996
It would be useful if someone more knowledgeable of this matter could resolve it and put any bot requests to Wikipedia:Bot requests. Thanks. — billinghurst sDrewth 04:02, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
Please see the discussion here. Thanks. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 09:31, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
There is a template talk page discussion regarding the graphics used for medalists in infobox medals tables occurring at Template talk:Medal#Changing from gold/silver/bronze to 1/2/3. As this discussion is within the scope of WP:cycling, you are invited to make your comments on the recent graphics changes there. Cheers. Dirtlawyer1 ( talk) 15:49, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
Is the word "Overall" redundant when used in the Palmares section for a cyclist? Some articles use it for every single result, some articles don't use it at all, and worst of all, some have a mix of using it and not using it. Michał Kwiatkowski is a good/bad example. 2007, 2008 and 2009 no "overall". 2010 uses it for each result. 2011 is a mix and so on. Is there a MOS on this? Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 09:31, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
Dear Sir,
Regarding the cycling Tour of Bulgaria, I've got (much) better detailed records to offer. How do you want me to show my records ? How do I do that ? How do I contact you ?
Hoping to hear from you soon, with a positive answer........ I remain, Sir, all yours in Cycling.
Danyel — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.122.132.235 ( talk) 15:11, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
Please see the AfD here which also includes the articles for List of Vuelta a España classification winners and List of Tour de France secondary classification winners. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 09:55, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
For the past few weeks I have worked on the article about the Tour of Flanders. Originally it was a bold move to make the articles about all the one-day monument classics more comprehensive, seeing that only the Paris-Roubaix article was actually extensive. It was one of my first really elaborate contributions, getting slightly out of hand and taking me a lot more time than I anticipated. I realize some sections need additional or better referencing, but I will work on it and any help in that area is welcome.
One thing that bothers me is that I could not find an image of the route of the Tour of Flanders on the commons page, neither recent or older. I put in a picture of Bruges, which is pretty but not all that relevant. If anyone could help out, that would be wonderful. Thanks. Dr.robin ( talk) 15:43, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
Hi, the following message was posted on my talk page by Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick:
Hi @ Frietjes: I work on the Franch Wikipedia, and more on Wikimedia Commons to illustrate cyclists. I see you create Module:Infobox cyclist tracking. Did you know that it is possible to use datas from Wikidata ? I prepared Module:Infobox/Cycliste. It doesn't applicate on the French Wikipedia because we don't already have the arbitrary access.
For cycling races, Module:Infobox/Descriptif course cycliste is working, but it lacks few properties (example : Tour du Limbourg 2015). Is it possible you start to adapt Template:Infobox cycling race report ? New properties about classification should arrive during the summer. That will permit we will start to work together English/French on Wikidata, and be more efficient. (sorry for my bad English, but we are not good on other languages in France...) Jérémy-Günther-Heinz Jähnick ( talk) 09:19, 19 June 2015 (UTC) PS : Module:Infobox cycling race report
Basically, the proposal is to enable the cycling infoboxes to pull data directly from WikiData. this will allow editors on "other language wikis" to contribute without editing the English site directly. for examples see d:Q105542 for Miguel Indurain. the typical method is to (1) check for the value within infobox in the article, (2) if it isn't defined then check/get the value from wikidata. from the example posted by Jérémy, it looks like we could be using the following data for cyclists (not all is applicable)
Wikidata Property | Description |
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P1449 | Nickname |
P1477 | Birth name |
P569 | Birth date |
P570 | Death date |
P27 | Nationality |
P103 | Native language |
P413 | Speciality |
P552 | Handedness |
P1340 | Eye colour |
P1884 | Hair colour |
P1853 | Blood type |
for cycling race reports you can see the properties listed in Module:Infobox cycling race report. I could make a similar table as the one above if that's useful. Frietjes ( talk) 13:46, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
I don't know whoever changed it, but the purple portion Infobox cycling race report used to have the text in the purple centered but now its aligned to the left. It's a small change but it's also rather unappealing looking. Could we get it changed back? Disc Wheel ( Talk + Tontributions) 00:58, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
Please see the discussion here. Thanks. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 17:42, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
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For info, I've created this template - {{ ProCyclingStats}}. It's based on the {{ Cycling Archives}} template. Thanks. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 12:25, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
I've recently transferred tons of photos from Flickr to Commons that may need categorising if anyone's up for it. Bald Boris 23:41, 9 July 2015 (UTC)