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Myu view is that the correct title for this entry would be the "England" cricket team not the "English" cricket team; not least beacuse there are (or have been) Welsh, Scottish and Irish players in the side! PaddyBriggs 08:04, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
It looks a little odd. it does seem that it was decided that the adjective "English" or "Pakistani" or "Indian" is preferable to the country name. However in cricket parlance we always refer to "England" or "India" or "Pakistan" (etc.) and you will not find the adjective used as the descriptor of the team in any cricket record or reference books. PaddyBriggs 10:14, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
Sam. You are quite right that in non Test matches the convention is (now) that we refer to the "West Indians" or the "Australians" in matches they play on tours that are not Test matches or One Day Internationals (expect for the England touring team who are always "England"). However in Test matches it is always "West Indies" or "Australia" or "England"...The entries about the national teams are (rightly) all about International matches not at all about the touring sides. So I stick to my view that the correct descriptor of the teams is the "England" or "Australia" (etc.) Cricket team. Another reason is both grammatical and accuracy concerned. Kent (or Surrey or Middlesex) are "English" cricket teams but not of course England cricket teams. The only England cricket team is the one that plays for England! PaddyBriggs 10:51, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
The following is a list of redirects that should be fixed, and then deleted, since it is never likely anyone will type article names like this. --
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desk 10:17, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
<removed list for the purpose of What links here>
Should you like a bot to work on this task, please place a request either at my talk page or at my desk. --
AllyUnion
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desk 10:17, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
The redirects that were listed here are deleted or being deleted now. -- AllyUnion (talk) 21:28, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
I've noticed two new cricketer bios which claim the players are vegans — Martyn Moxon and Jimmy Maher. Can anyone confirm either of these? Stephen Turner 11:00, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
On Daniel Vettori's page it says he is a vegeterian... is he? Hamedog 15:42, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
User 203.3.197.249 is making what looks to be trolling comments on Talk:Shane Warne, implying that people who edit Wikipedia should get a life. I suggest ignoring rather than engaging this person. - dmmaus 05:56, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
For a list of recent edits to cricketers' talk pages, see here. Stephen Turner 12:55, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
You may see a user called CricketBot going around editing some cricket articles in the future. At the moment, it's busy changing "test" into "Test".
CricketBot is really me in disguise. I wrote a bot to find common errors in cricket articles, but it only suggests the changes to me, and I check each one before saving the page. (You may have noticed me doing this under my own account before, but it turns out to be good practice to run it as a separate user).
You can see a list of ideas I have for future edits of this sort on CricketBot's home page. If you have any more similar ideas, drop me a note. And if there are any problems with the edits, likewise let me know.
Stephen Turner 14:40, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
I'm suggesting that we standardise cricket seasons to be (for example) "1971-72". Currently we have 1971/1972, 1971/2, 1971-2, 1971/ 72, 1971- 72 (and other combinations I'm sure). There is a related discussion on this above, under =Style guidelines=, although that's specifically talking about article names. I am talking about plain text in the body of an article.
I see no reason to link years when referring to seasons, and I suggest that while the MOS seems to be silent (AFAIK) on seasons specifically (other than this) , I think a "-" (or en-dash) just looks better and is more widely used these days than a "/".
The other day I amended the Cricket Article Style Guide (on the WP:Cricket page to reflect this, without really getting confirmation that's what everyone agrees or disagrees with. I'd like to know if we can agree on it here. -- Ian ≡ talk 15:40, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
An anonymous user 139.222.182.61 ( talk · contribs) (which my IP locator places in Norwich, England with 75% certainty - but then it places me in Bristol with higher certainty and I'm in London!) has just added quite a bit of info to a number of pages on Zimbabwean players. No references, and the internet doesn't show it up as a copyvio. I have invited the user add references, sign up and join WP:Cricket, jguk 09:33, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
I am fed up with reading Pakistani cricket biographies (and a few Indian ones) full of non- NPOV statements, and unsourced claims about their personalities. Most of the Pakistani bios read like magazine articles, not encyclopaedia articles. Some of them even have alternate sentences portraying them as heroes then villains. I know those people are fanatical about their cricketers, but it doesn't make for a good encyclopaedia </rant>. Stephen Turner 13:19, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
An anonymous editor created the article Cricket in USA. Apart from the fact the article is very poor at the moment, I'm not sure what it should be called. Do we have another article already that we could redirect it to? Stephen Turner 08:33, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
WikiProject Cricket participants have adopted the following guidelines for notability of a cricket person for an article in Wikipedia:
I have a major objection to the above criteria in that they are too wide and allow far too many one-hit wonders and bit-part players to be included. In particular cases these guidelines go against Wikipedia:Importance, particularly:
Remember, in most established cricketing countries even B league provincial/state cricket counts as first-class, and players in these games would hardly be recognised in their own country, let alone the wider cricket community. Likewise with players who are only selected for a few ODI's or Tests before being dropped — not an entirely uncommon occurence (except perhaps if they are notable for other reasons). It would also permit articles on recently selected players who may or may not yet make the grade (there are already some articles on players who have only debuted this season). If each of these are allowed there would be an explosion of short articles about obscure players and — in the case of players who have subsequently been dropped — no hope of ever expanding these articles to full length. The criteria for inclusion needs to be much stricter, and should perhaps exclude players who have recently made their debut or who have played less than X amount of matches. (I suggest X=10 Tests or 30 ODIs.) Zunaid 14:45, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
There is an AFD on Substitute fielder . No big deal, an obvious redirect.
South Africa vs Wales at rugby union is also on AfD. Tintin 23:32, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
A user is still busy editing Shane Warne, apparently in a bid to see how fast the "Wikipolice" can revert it. It's fairly low-level, maybe once or twice a day, but it might be helpful for more people to keep an eye out for it. Thanks. Stephen Turner 10:11, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
The troll added this line to Mark Taylor yesterday - He is also famous for his air conditioner promoting. Do the Aussies know whether this line is of any significance ? Tintin 18:46, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
I'm shocked at the lack of content on domestic cricket. There is nothing on fringe Australian international player David Hussey, who has played for Australia A, for example. Is there going to be a profile starting on such domestic players?
At the least, key players such as captains of Victoria, NSW etc should be included. There was nothing on Darren Berry, who made an Ashes tour in 1997 and captained his side to a Pura Cup title. Surely such key players should be included? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rogerthat ( talk • contribs) 10:19, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
Though, of course, Rogerthat, you'd be more than welcome to help increase our coverage of non-international cricketers, jguk 10:48, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
Yeah, I've added an article on Nick Jewell, but the reason I'm not working on it much at the moment is because I've got another neglected project that I basically maintain myself - WikiProject AFL Rogerthat 11:42, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
Given the gaping hole in our coverage here, I have started a page (format copied wholesale from Australian national cricket captains). I've added a list of men's Test captains with results, but help to add a men's ODI list, women's lists, etc, and to diambiguate players, is welcome. -- ALoan (Talk) 12:43, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
Looks like 68.71.35.93 is a vandal, and someone reverted his changes including Trumper and Johnny Douglas]. But his edits in Douglas were correct (or atleast the half that I know about) and I reverted them.
He has also added a passage to Trumper - Interestingly , even though Trumper is best known for his prowess at cricket, he was also a very good Rugby player and he can lay claim to being the prime mover in the development of Rugby League in Sydney in particular and Australia as a whole. The vandal fighter has reverted this too and I don't know whether this is true or not. Tintin 22:30, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
I've put a list of cricket biography sub-stubs up at User:CricketBot/substubs. These are articles of only one or two sentences which are so useless that they're in danger of being deleted. Many of them are also grammatically weak.
There's a depressingly large number of them at the moment, so feel free to come along and work on expanding some of them. Or if you don't feel that inspired, some of them are just redirects that need bypassing.
Stephen Turner 18:13, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
Thanks to the ever-enthusiastic Sam Vimes for expanding four of the articles already. I've now removed the redirects to a new list, User:CricketBot/redirects. Stephen Turner 12:35, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
Some of these aren't just grammatically weak: they're factually suspect too. I've just spotted that Sylvester Clarke is an Indian cricketer, according to his sub-stub. Bit worrying when you see that there have been six edits, not including those by bots. I'll give these sub-stubs some proper attention over the weekend, but am I alone in thinking that, where they refer to pretty obscure people, we might do better to let them be culled and concentrate our efforts on the important gaps in the cricket coverage? Eventually, we'd get around to the obscure people, but this is giving them a rather false priority. Johnlp 14:46, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
We now have several lists of cricketers, a couple of which are probably redundant.
My understanding is that 3) is now pretty much the master list, courtesy of Stephen through scans of [[List of <country> Test cricketers]] and [[List of <country> ODI cricketers]]. 1 & 2 could therefore now be deleted as the potential size of these lists makes it almost impossible for them to be maintained manually, and I don't see they offer anything extra that List of international cricketers doesn't, other than a place for non-international cricketers. In respect of listing domestic only cricketers, we could start up a new list, if anyone is so inclined. -- Ian ≡ talk 05:49, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
Lists 1 and 2 can include players who have had no international experience. Surely, at least in theory, they are not both redundant, jguk
Ian ≡ talk 01:56, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
Another thought. Does anyone use the List of Test cricketers and List of ODI cricketers or can we get rid of them? I know they're linked from those boxes counting the number of bios, but that's probably not essential. Personally, I only use the combined list. Stephen Turner ( Talk) 16:16, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
heya all, i'm sort of new around here at this project, but not new to cricket (ok call me a tragic). anyway i have been fixing up some Australian stadium articles by adding the infobox_stadium to them, and now I have noticed that none of the cricket grounds currently have a like infobox for them. So I am wondering, and posing it to the cricket buffs on wikipedia, if there should be an infobox created for cricket grounds and if so what information should be included in it (obviously things like location, capacity, first game/test, etc). So support, disagree and comments welcome. if agree i will go ahead and create one and throw it up here. Nomadtales 23:04, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
I reckon you've got a job for life here if you want it! Johnlp 09:16, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
MCG | |
File:Melb-MCG.JPG | |
Location | Melbourne, Victoria, Australia |
---|---|
Capacity | 99,000 |
Tenants | Australia (Cricket), Victoria (Cricket), Melbourne (AFL), Richmond (AFL), Collingwood (AFL), Hawthorn (AFL) |
OK seeing as people think this is a good idea, I have gone ahead and created a template to use, called Template:Infobox Cricket Ground. It is a start and needs to be expanded (a demo of it is on right for the MCG). There are a few things I am unsure about, especially when you do one like the MCG and AFL is also played there, so a section on other sports may be needed, or perhaps that can be included under the tenants, in this case the AFL teams (like I have done). In fact I think it is probably wise not to have too many categories and just have broad ones that can have multiple entries. Nomadtales 01:53, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
I nominated Mysore Cricketers for deletion. There is no need for it as Category:Karnataka cricketers is already around. The Mysore team was renamed to Karnataka in the early 1970s. Tintin 04:31, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
FYI, Hussey played in his 21st ODI today getting a magnificent 88 not-out off 56 balls (although it wasn't enough to save the match from the Kiwi's). By my calculations that gives him an ODI batting average of 151, more than double that of the next highest on the list - Kevin Pietersen with 73.09 from 23 ODI's. Cricinfo and Cricketarchive have not updated their record tables yet. -- Ian ≡ talk 12:45, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
Now that anonymous editors can't create new articles, our anonymous cricket-loving friend has decided to create his sub-stubs on the talk pages instead! See Talk:Owen Wynne and Talk:Frederick Fisher (cricketer). I moved these to the respective article pages, but should I just have blanked them instead? Stephen Turner ( Talk) 10:53, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
My trusty side-kick CricketBot has made a list of articles in Category:Cricketers which are not in List of cricketers. The list is at User:CricketBot/missing cricketers. Any volunteers to look at a few, and determine which need to be added to List of cricketers#Other cricketers and which are false positives? Thanks, Stephen Turner ( Talk) 12:32, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
I've listed Portal:Cricket as a featured portal candidate. Any comments would be useful. See Wikipedia:Featured portal candidates/Portal:Cricket, jguk 14:35, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
WikiProject Cricket member Ianbrown has been nominated for adminship. Vote here by 03:10 19 December 2005 (UTC). Snottygobble | Talk 03:41, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
Hey guys, it seems that I'm doing the WikiProject AFL solo! If you haven't checked out this sports project, my fellow cricket (and hopefully AFL) fans, then I hope you do soon, because I've put a fair bit of effort into it. I understand we also have a Cricket project to complete, but just posting this if anyone is interested. :) Perhaps you could give me some tips that you have learnt participating in Wikiproject cricket and perhaps applying them to the AFL one?
If you feel this isn't appropriate to "wiki-advertise", feel free to delete this message. Rogerthat 10:35, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
on Wikipedia:Requested_pictures#Sport it said you guys needed photos. A mate of mine got about 30 photos of cricket recently. I uploaded one under Mark Boucher. Reply on talk if you need any more because if you do I will take my camera to the WACA with me. There is also cricket nets and a cricket field across the road from my house. Hamedog 09:35, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
photos are located here Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cricket/hamedog
User:PatsyHendren ( talk · contribs) has started moving several cricket pages to versions with initials (and without a space too: e.g. Alan Wells to A.P. Wells). I've asked him/her to stop and discuss it here first. Stephen Turner ( Talk) 14:18, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
I'm coming to the conclusion that the substub writer is the same as the vegan vandal. Have a look at these edits. Stephen Turner ( Talk) 12:02, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
I've put the format of Arsenal F.C., which is a featured article about a soccer team, onto West Indian cricket team. The idea is to work this up now into a featured article. It's the kind of thing that would be good for a collaboration. Please pop by and help, jguk 20:55, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
I've created a new template to allow people to advertise their membership of this project. You can add {{WikiProject Cricket member}} to your user page to get this:
This user is a member of WikiProject Cricket, a project to improve the cricket articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to help, come and visit the project page, or join in the discussion at the project talk page. |
Stephen Turner ( Talk) 11:37, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
Is Reverse (cricket) is a commonly used term ? I have never heard it. Tintin 14:10, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
Has someone asked the author of this page? It seems like a lot of effort to make up a page on a bit of false cricket terminology, jguk 18:33, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
This site talks about a 'reverse release' slower ball bowled by Ian Harvey. I don't have much idea how Harvey bowls it. Tintin
The sentence above says it all. Thanks to everyone who's helped develop it, jguk 18:38, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 10 | ← | Archive 12 | Archive 13 | Archive 14 | Archive 15 | Archive 16 | → | Archive 20 |
Myu view is that the correct title for this entry would be the "England" cricket team not the "English" cricket team; not least beacuse there are (or have been) Welsh, Scottish and Irish players in the side! PaddyBriggs 08:04, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
It looks a little odd. it does seem that it was decided that the adjective "English" or "Pakistani" or "Indian" is preferable to the country name. However in cricket parlance we always refer to "England" or "India" or "Pakistan" (etc.) and you will not find the adjective used as the descriptor of the team in any cricket record or reference books. PaddyBriggs 10:14, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
Sam. You are quite right that in non Test matches the convention is (now) that we refer to the "West Indians" or the "Australians" in matches they play on tours that are not Test matches or One Day Internationals (expect for the England touring team who are always "England"). However in Test matches it is always "West Indies" or "Australia" or "England"...The entries about the national teams are (rightly) all about International matches not at all about the touring sides. So I stick to my view that the correct descriptor of the teams is the "England" or "Australia" (etc.) Cricket team. Another reason is both grammatical and accuracy concerned. Kent (or Surrey or Middlesex) are "English" cricket teams but not of course England cricket teams. The only England cricket team is the one that plays for England! PaddyBriggs 10:51, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
The following is a list of redirects that should be fixed, and then deleted, since it is never likely anyone will type article names like this. --
AllyUnion
(talk)
desk 10:17, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
<removed list for the purpose of What links here>
Should you like a bot to work on this task, please place a request either at my talk page or at my desk. --
AllyUnion
(talk)
desk 10:17, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
The redirects that were listed here are deleted or being deleted now. -- AllyUnion (talk) 21:28, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
I've noticed two new cricketer bios which claim the players are vegans — Martyn Moxon and Jimmy Maher. Can anyone confirm either of these? Stephen Turner 11:00, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
On Daniel Vettori's page it says he is a vegeterian... is he? Hamedog 15:42, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
User 203.3.197.249 is making what looks to be trolling comments on Talk:Shane Warne, implying that people who edit Wikipedia should get a life. I suggest ignoring rather than engaging this person. - dmmaus 05:56, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
For a list of recent edits to cricketers' talk pages, see here. Stephen Turner 12:55, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
You may see a user called CricketBot going around editing some cricket articles in the future. At the moment, it's busy changing "test" into "Test".
CricketBot is really me in disguise. I wrote a bot to find common errors in cricket articles, but it only suggests the changes to me, and I check each one before saving the page. (You may have noticed me doing this under my own account before, but it turns out to be good practice to run it as a separate user).
You can see a list of ideas I have for future edits of this sort on CricketBot's home page. If you have any more similar ideas, drop me a note. And if there are any problems with the edits, likewise let me know.
Stephen Turner 14:40, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
I'm suggesting that we standardise cricket seasons to be (for example) "1971-72". Currently we have 1971/1972, 1971/2, 1971-2, 1971/ 72, 1971- 72 (and other combinations I'm sure). There is a related discussion on this above, under =Style guidelines=, although that's specifically talking about article names. I am talking about plain text in the body of an article.
I see no reason to link years when referring to seasons, and I suggest that while the MOS seems to be silent (AFAIK) on seasons specifically (other than this) , I think a "-" (or en-dash) just looks better and is more widely used these days than a "/".
The other day I amended the Cricket Article Style Guide (on the WP:Cricket page to reflect this, without really getting confirmation that's what everyone agrees or disagrees with. I'd like to know if we can agree on it here. -- Ian ≡ talk 15:40, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
An anonymous user 139.222.182.61 ( talk · contribs) (which my IP locator places in Norwich, England with 75% certainty - but then it places me in Bristol with higher certainty and I'm in London!) has just added quite a bit of info to a number of pages on Zimbabwean players. No references, and the internet doesn't show it up as a copyvio. I have invited the user add references, sign up and join WP:Cricket, jguk 09:33, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
I am fed up with reading Pakistani cricket biographies (and a few Indian ones) full of non- NPOV statements, and unsourced claims about their personalities. Most of the Pakistani bios read like magazine articles, not encyclopaedia articles. Some of them even have alternate sentences portraying them as heroes then villains. I know those people are fanatical about their cricketers, but it doesn't make for a good encyclopaedia </rant>. Stephen Turner 13:19, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
An anonymous editor created the article Cricket in USA. Apart from the fact the article is very poor at the moment, I'm not sure what it should be called. Do we have another article already that we could redirect it to? Stephen Turner 08:33, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
WikiProject Cricket participants have adopted the following guidelines for notability of a cricket person for an article in Wikipedia:
I have a major objection to the above criteria in that they are too wide and allow far too many one-hit wonders and bit-part players to be included. In particular cases these guidelines go against Wikipedia:Importance, particularly:
Remember, in most established cricketing countries even B league provincial/state cricket counts as first-class, and players in these games would hardly be recognised in their own country, let alone the wider cricket community. Likewise with players who are only selected for a few ODI's or Tests before being dropped — not an entirely uncommon occurence (except perhaps if they are notable for other reasons). It would also permit articles on recently selected players who may or may not yet make the grade (there are already some articles on players who have only debuted this season). If each of these are allowed there would be an explosion of short articles about obscure players and — in the case of players who have subsequently been dropped — no hope of ever expanding these articles to full length. The criteria for inclusion needs to be much stricter, and should perhaps exclude players who have recently made their debut or who have played less than X amount of matches. (I suggest X=10 Tests or 30 ODIs.) Zunaid 14:45, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
There is an AFD on Substitute fielder . No big deal, an obvious redirect.
South Africa vs Wales at rugby union is also on AfD. Tintin 23:32, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
A user is still busy editing Shane Warne, apparently in a bid to see how fast the "Wikipolice" can revert it. It's fairly low-level, maybe once or twice a day, but it might be helpful for more people to keep an eye out for it. Thanks. Stephen Turner 10:11, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
The troll added this line to Mark Taylor yesterday - He is also famous for his air conditioner promoting. Do the Aussies know whether this line is of any significance ? Tintin 18:46, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
I'm shocked at the lack of content on domestic cricket. There is nothing on fringe Australian international player David Hussey, who has played for Australia A, for example. Is there going to be a profile starting on such domestic players?
At the least, key players such as captains of Victoria, NSW etc should be included. There was nothing on Darren Berry, who made an Ashes tour in 1997 and captained his side to a Pura Cup title. Surely such key players should be included? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rogerthat ( talk • contribs) 10:19, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
Though, of course, Rogerthat, you'd be more than welcome to help increase our coverage of non-international cricketers, jguk 10:48, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
Yeah, I've added an article on Nick Jewell, but the reason I'm not working on it much at the moment is because I've got another neglected project that I basically maintain myself - WikiProject AFL Rogerthat 11:42, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
Given the gaping hole in our coverage here, I have started a page (format copied wholesale from Australian national cricket captains). I've added a list of men's Test captains with results, but help to add a men's ODI list, women's lists, etc, and to diambiguate players, is welcome. -- ALoan (Talk) 12:43, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
Looks like 68.71.35.93 is a vandal, and someone reverted his changes including Trumper and Johnny Douglas]. But his edits in Douglas were correct (or atleast the half that I know about) and I reverted them.
He has also added a passage to Trumper - Interestingly , even though Trumper is best known for his prowess at cricket, he was also a very good Rugby player and he can lay claim to being the prime mover in the development of Rugby League in Sydney in particular and Australia as a whole. The vandal fighter has reverted this too and I don't know whether this is true or not. Tintin 22:30, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
I've put a list of cricket biography sub-stubs up at User:CricketBot/substubs. These are articles of only one or two sentences which are so useless that they're in danger of being deleted. Many of them are also grammatically weak.
There's a depressingly large number of them at the moment, so feel free to come along and work on expanding some of them. Or if you don't feel that inspired, some of them are just redirects that need bypassing.
Stephen Turner 18:13, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
Thanks to the ever-enthusiastic Sam Vimes for expanding four of the articles already. I've now removed the redirects to a new list, User:CricketBot/redirects. Stephen Turner 12:35, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
Some of these aren't just grammatically weak: they're factually suspect too. I've just spotted that Sylvester Clarke is an Indian cricketer, according to his sub-stub. Bit worrying when you see that there have been six edits, not including those by bots. I'll give these sub-stubs some proper attention over the weekend, but am I alone in thinking that, where they refer to pretty obscure people, we might do better to let them be culled and concentrate our efforts on the important gaps in the cricket coverage? Eventually, we'd get around to the obscure people, but this is giving them a rather false priority. Johnlp 14:46, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
We now have several lists of cricketers, a couple of which are probably redundant.
My understanding is that 3) is now pretty much the master list, courtesy of Stephen through scans of [[List of <country> Test cricketers]] and [[List of <country> ODI cricketers]]. 1 & 2 could therefore now be deleted as the potential size of these lists makes it almost impossible for them to be maintained manually, and I don't see they offer anything extra that List of international cricketers doesn't, other than a place for non-international cricketers. In respect of listing domestic only cricketers, we could start up a new list, if anyone is so inclined. -- Ian ≡ talk 05:49, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
Lists 1 and 2 can include players who have had no international experience. Surely, at least in theory, they are not both redundant, jguk
Ian ≡ talk 01:56, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
Another thought. Does anyone use the List of Test cricketers and List of ODI cricketers or can we get rid of them? I know they're linked from those boxes counting the number of bios, but that's probably not essential. Personally, I only use the combined list. Stephen Turner ( Talk) 16:16, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
heya all, i'm sort of new around here at this project, but not new to cricket (ok call me a tragic). anyway i have been fixing up some Australian stadium articles by adding the infobox_stadium to them, and now I have noticed that none of the cricket grounds currently have a like infobox for them. So I am wondering, and posing it to the cricket buffs on wikipedia, if there should be an infobox created for cricket grounds and if so what information should be included in it (obviously things like location, capacity, first game/test, etc). So support, disagree and comments welcome. if agree i will go ahead and create one and throw it up here. Nomadtales 23:04, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
I reckon you've got a job for life here if you want it! Johnlp 09:16, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
MCG | |
File:Melb-MCG.JPG | |
Location | Melbourne, Victoria, Australia |
---|---|
Capacity | 99,000 |
Tenants | Australia (Cricket), Victoria (Cricket), Melbourne (AFL), Richmond (AFL), Collingwood (AFL), Hawthorn (AFL) |
OK seeing as people think this is a good idea, I have gone ahead and created a template to use, called Template:Infobox Cricket Ground. It is a start and needs to be expanded (a demo of it is on right for the MCG). There are a few things I am unsure about, especially when you do one like the MCG and AFL is also played there, so a section on other sports may be needed, or perhaps that can be included under the tenants, in this case the AFL teams (like I have done). In fact I think it is probably wise not to have too many categories and just have broad ones that can have multiple entries. Nomadtales 01:53, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
I nominated Mysore Cricketers for deletion. There is no need for it as Category:Karnataka cricketers is already around. The Mysore team was renamed to Karnataka in the early 1970s. Tintin 04:31, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
FYI, Hussey played in his 21st ODI today getting a magnificent 88 not-out off 56 balls (although it wasn't enough to save the match from the Kiwi's). By my calculations that gives him an ODI batting average of 151, more than double that of the next highest on the list - Kevin Pietersen with 73.09 from 23 ODI's. Cricinfo and Cricketarchive have not updated their record tables yet. -- Ian ≡ talk 12:45, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
Now that anonymous editors can't create new articles, our anonymous cricket-loving friend has decided to create his sub-stubs on the talk pages instead! See Talk:Owen Wynne and Talk:Frederick Fisher (cricketer). I moved these to the respective article pages, but should I just have blanked them instead? Stephen Turner ( Talk) 10:53, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
My trusty side-kick CricketBot has made a list of articles in Category:Cricketers which are not in List of cricketers. The list is at User:CricketBot/missing cricketers. Any volunteers to look at a few, and determine which need to be added to List of cricketers#Other cricketers and which are false positives? Thanks, Stephen Turner ( Talk) 12:32, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
I've listed Portal:Cricket as a featured portal candidate. Any comments would be useful. See Wikipedia:Featured portal candidates/Portal:Cricket, jguk 14:35, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
WikiProject Cricket member Ianbrown has been nominated for adminship. Vote here by 03:10 19 December 2005 (UTC). Snottygobble | Talk 03:41, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
Hey guys, it seems that I'm doing the WikiProject AFL solo! If you haven't checked out this sports project, my fellow cricket (and hopefully AFL) fans, then I hope you do soon, because I've put a fair bit of effort into it. I understand we also have a Cricket project to complete, but just posting this if anyone is interested. :) Perhaps you could give me some tips that you have learnt participating in Wikiproject cricket and perhaps applying them to the AFL one?
If you feel this isn't appropriate to "wiki-advertise", feel free to delete this message. Rogerthat 10:35, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
on Wikipedia:Requested_pictures#Sport it said you guys needed photos. A mate of mine got about 30 photos of cricket recently. I uploaded one under Mark Boucher. Reply on talk if you need any more because if you do I will take my camera to the WACA with me. There is also cricket nets and a cricket field across the road from my house. Hamedog 09:35, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
photos are located here Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cricket/hamedog
User:PatsyHendren ( talk · contribs) has started moving several cricket pages to versions with initials (and without a space too: e.g. Alan Wells to A.P. Wells). I've asked him/her to stop and discuss it here first. Stephen Turner ( Talk) 14:18, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
I'm coming to the conclusion that the substub writer is the same as the vegan vandal. Have a look at these edits. Stephen Turner ( Talk) 12:02, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
I've put the format of Arsenal F.C., which is a featured article about a soccer team, onto West Indian cricket team. The idea is to work this up now into a featured article. It's the kind of thing that would be good for a collaboration. Please pop by and help, jguk 20:55, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
I've created a new template to allow people to advertise their membership of this project. You can add {{WikiProject Cricket member}} to your user page to get this:
This user is a member of WikiProject Cricket, a project to improve the cricket articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to help, come and visit the project page, or join in the discussion at the project talk page. |
Stephen Turner ( Talk) 11:37, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
Is Reverse (cricket) is a commonly used term ? I have never heard it. Tintin 14:10, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
Has someone asked the author of this page? It seems like a lot of effort to make up a page on a bit of false cricket terminology, jguk 18:33, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
This site talks about a 'reverse release' slower ball bowled by Ian Harvey. I don't have much idea how Harvey bowls it. Tintin
The sentence above says it all. Thanks to everyone who's helped develop it, jguk 18:38, 21 December 2005 (UTC)