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Hi! I was just involved with getting Agrippina (opera) to FA, so we'd have something for the 250th anniversary of Handel's death . We succeeded! However, it's been pointed out that the 350th anniversary of Purcell's birth is coming up in September.
Handel was a bit of a rush job, and we really didn't have time to get the composer article up to FA in the month and a bit we had. However, we have more time for Purcell. User:Folantin and I have been discussing it over at the Opera WikiProject, and would like to try to get Henry Purcell up to FA class (and also try and improve the articles on his operas).
Would any of you be interested in joining us? It should be pretty fun, but it will need a major improvement in sources. Shoemaker's Holiday ( talk) 19:20, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
As a number of readers here know, I've been reviewing the project's B-class articles. This work began in November 2008, and is now complete. What follows is a summary; you can also see the full list of reviews.
316 reviews were done. Of the articles reviewed, 51 were deemed of superior quality, and may be eligible (some with a modest amount of work) for project A-class consideration, or GA nomination. 31 articles for which reviews were written were demoted to Start-class, and a relatively small number of articles were summarily demoted without review. There were 10 articles that remained at the B level, but were noted as being of poor quality, satisfying minimal requirements for a B rating. (This last number is a bit unreliable, and probably higher; I didn't start marking my review summaries this way until about midway through the list.)
Some comments on doing this work:
I will be writing up a "how to write a better composer article" and a "how to review a composer article" at some point, hopefully in the near future.
One interesting piece of research: about 7% of this project's articles are B class or higher. This percentage compares favorably with the military history, in which about 5% of articles (including looking at task forces containing a similar number of articles to this one) are B class or higher. The notable difference is that MILHIST projects have a higher proportion of GA,A, and FA articles, all of which require either WP-wide process or project peer review.
I would recommend the institution of a peer process within the project for doing A-class reviews.
-- Magic ♪piano 18:06, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
I try to create different spheres for grouping classical composers and popular music composers, Alice Despard can not be in the same categorial location of Charles Ives or Walter Piston. I also created a category for classical composers by nationality. -- Opus88888 ( talk) 04:41, 9 April 2009 (UTC) I can reedit, I have observed that in the English wiki you separate composers from song-writers.
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Thomas R. Vozzella - any input would be appreciated, as the AfD is progressing very slowly. Crossposting to WP Contemporary music. -- Jashiin ( talk) 09:36, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
I have recently (well, sort of recently) expanded articles on Vincent Lübeck and Johann Paul von Westhoff. They were both previously assessed as a start-class article and a stub, respectively, and, if I understand correctly, I cannot assess my own efforts, so if someone would reassess them, that'd be fantastic.
On a related note, I ran into a formatting problem which I can't really fix, at Vincent Lübeck and at André Raison. In his review of the latter, Magicpiano pointed out that the abundance of images and a list make the article look cluttered. I converted the list in question into prose, but it still doesn't look good. And the article on Vincent Lübeck now has a similar problem, because there are, again, two images and a list, and I have no idea at all as to how to make the section look better. If anyone has any suggestions, I'd be happy to hear them. -- Jashiin ( talk) 08:44, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
Is this guy notable? I don't see any non-wikipedia google hits. He's only 22 and the article is very short, even for a stub. There's also a new article on a symphony of his Symphony No. 1 (Jan Juham). Just a general heads up if anyone tracks these types of things. DavidRF ( talk) 18:55, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
This was a contested Prod, so I have taken it to AfD. Interested editors may consult the entry at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Symphony No. 1 (Jan Juham). Eusebeus ( talk) 14:13, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
describing the contributions of a musician active in the early/mid 20th century in the realm of both classical and jazz composition and performance for an instrument which was largely ignored in the USA at the turn of the century. The article describes several compositions which were transcribed by the composer for piano as well as a variety of published works. The article has been assessed by several other members of the Wikimusic portal but not has been reviewed by an editor within the Composers category. The article is in the process of a major cleanup by a variety of editors who possess a limited knowledge of this era in music history. Kindly assign the article for review by an editor who is familiar with early/mid 20th century American music at your earliest convenience in order to assess the importance of the composer and his works: American Rhapsody and Concerto For Free Bass Accordion. You might also ammend the Category: Composers by instrument page to include a sub page for composers of accordion. ( I am not certian how this is accomplished.) Thanks for your kind and thoughtful consideration. I am a new contributer to Wikipedia and deeply appreciate your kind editorial assistance. Repectfully: -- Pjs012915 ( talk) 19:03, 5 May 2009 (UTC) User:pjs012915
With this in mind, kindly remove my request for an assessment of the article within the Composer's category. I do not believe that I possess enough verifiable information to justify such a listing and would prefer to salvage as much of the article as possible. In so far as other editors in the Contemporary Music and Classical Music areas have assigned a C-level to this article while it is under a final review, I have taken the liberty of undoing your re-grading of the article and restored its C- level (I hope that this action is permitted). If possible, kindly withdraw my request for an assessment of the article within the composer's section. With this in mind, I have removed the requested tag at the top of the article. Thanks again for your input and best wishes for the future. -- Pjs012915 ( talk) 21:31, 6 May 2009 (UTC) pjs012915
Hi. An editor has deleted (see [1]) the inclusion of David D'Or as a subject of this (and a number of other) wikiprojects. I believe that D'Or belongs. Can someone who is involved in this wikiproject please a look? D'Or both composes and sings music, including a Eurovision entry, a great number of his songs, and some significant classical music as indicated at his article. I'm not pre-supposing the level of importance of his music to this wikiproject, but that can of course be reflected in the assessment. If you have a view, pls feel free to express it on the D'Or talk page. Many thanks.-- Ethelh ( talk) 02:41, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
The discussion is at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Robert Davidson (composer), if members wish to comment. Voceditenore ( talk) 11:52, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
Another WP:Notability (or possibly hoax) question. Gyuszi Mészáros is stubby, its one source appears to be non-existent, and its creator did nothing else in the way of editing. Furthermore, hu.wp does not have an article by that name. AfD/CSD material? Magic ♪piano 13:21, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
Someone has started this trend by creating the categories: Italian Renaissance composers, English Renaissance composers, Scottish Renaissance composers, and Welsh Renaissance composers, and putting the fitting composers in the proper category. I have expanded Renaissance composers to include other nationalities, and have done things in a similar manner with Baroque composers. Thoughts? Marcus2 ( talk) 14:20, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
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Archive 15 | ← | Archive 19 | Archive 20 | Archive 21 | Archive 22 | Archive 23 | → | Archive 25 |
Hi! I was just involved with getting Agrippina (opera) to FA, so we'd have something for the 250th anniversary of Handel's death . We succeeded! However, it's been pointed out that the 350th anniversary of Purcell's birth is coming up in September.
Handel was a bit of a rush job, and we really didn't have time to get the composer article up to FA in the month and a bit we had. However, we have more time for Purcell. User:Folantin and I have been discussing it over at the Opera WikiProject, and would like to try to get Henry Purcell up to FA class (and also try and improve the articles on his operas).
Would any of you be interested in joining us? It should be pretty fun, but it will need a major improvement in sources. Shoemaker's Holiday ( talk) 19:20, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
As a number of readers here know, I've been reviewing the project's B-class articles. This work began in November 2008, and is now complete. What follows is a summary; you can also see the full list of reviews.
316 reviews were done. Of the articles reviewed, 51 were deemed of superior quality, and may be eligible (some with a modest amount of work) for project A-class consideration, or GA nomination. 31 articles for which reviews were written were demoted to Start-class, and a relatively small number of articles were summarily demoted without review. There were 10 articles that remained at the B level, but were noted as being of poor quality, satisfying minimal requirements for a B rating. (This last number is a bit unreliable, and probably higher; I didn't start marking my review summaries this way until about midway through the list.)
Some comments on doing this work:
I will be writing up a "how to write a better composer article" and a "how to review a composer article" at some point, hopefully in the near future.
One interesting piece of research: about 7% of this project's articles are B class or higher. This percentage compares favorably with the military history, in which about 5% of articles (including looking at task forces containing a similar number of articles to this one) are B class or higher. The notable difference is that MILHIST projects have a higher proportion of GA,A, and FA articles, all of which require either WP-wide process or project peer review.
I would recommend the institution of a peer process within the project for doing A-class reviews.
-- Magic ♪piano 18:06, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
I try to create different spheres for grouping classical composers and popular music composers, Alice Despard can not be in the same categorial location of Charles Ives or Walter Piston. I also created a category for classical composers by nationality. -- Opus88888 ( talk) 04:41, 9 April 2009 (UTC) I can reedit, I have observed that in the English wiki you separate composers from song-writers.
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Thomas R. Vozzella - any input would be appreciated, as the AfD is progressing very slowly. Crossposting to WP Contemporary music. -- Jashiin ( talk) 09:36, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
I have recently (well, sort of recently) expanded articles on Vincent Lübeck and Johann Paul von Westhoff. They were both previously assessed as a start-class article and a stub, respectively, and, if I understand correctly, I cannot assess my own efforts, so if someone would reassess them, that'd be fantastic.
On a related note, I ran into a formatting problem which I can't really fix, at Vincent Lübeck and at André Raison. In his review of the latter, Magicpiano pointed out that the abundance of images and a list make the article look cluttered. I converted the list in question into prose, but it still doesn't look good. And the article on Vincent Lübeck now has a similar problem, because there are, again, two images and a list, and I have no idea at all as to how to make the section look better. If anyone has any suggestions, I'd be happy to hear them. -- Jashiin ( talk) 08:44, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
Is this guy notable? I don't see any non-wikipedia google hits. He's only 22 and the article is very short, even for a stub. There's also a new article on a symphony of his Symphony No. 1 (Jan Juham). Just a general heads up if anyone tracks these types of things. DavidRF ( talk) 18:55, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
This was a contested Prod, so I have taken it to AfD. Interested editors may consult the entry at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Symphony No. 1 (Jan Juham). Eusebeus ( talk) 14:13, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
describing the contributions of a musician active in the early/mid 20th century in the realm of both classical and jazz composition and performance for an instrument which was largely ignored in the USA at the turn of the century. The article describes several compositions which were transcribed by the composer for piano as well as a variety of published works. The article has been assessed by several other members of the Wikimusic portal but not has been reviewed by an editor within the Composers category. The article is in the process of a major cleanup by a variety of editors who possess a limited knowledge of this era in music history. Kindly assign the article for review by an editor who is familiar with early/mid 20th century American music at your earliest convenience in order to assess the importance of the composer and his works: American Rhapsody and Concerto For Free Bass Accordion. You might also ammend the Category: Composers by instrument page to include a sub page for composers of accordion. ( I am not certian how this is accomplished.) Thanks for your kind and thoughtful consideration. I am a new contributer to Wikipedia and deeply appreciate your kind editorial assistance. Repectfully: -- Pjs012915 ( talk) 19:03, 5 May 2009 (UTC) User:pjs012915
With this in mind, kindly remove my request for an assessment of the article within the Composer's category. I do not believe that I possess enough verifiable information to justify such a listing and would prefer to salvage as much of the article as possible. In so far as other editors in the Contemporary Music and Classical Music areas have assigned a C-level to this article while it is under a final review, I have taken the liberty of undoing your re-grading of the article and restored its C- level (I hope that this action is permitted). If possible, kindly withdraw my request for an assessment of the article within the composer's section. With this in mind, I have removed the requested tag at the top of the article. Thanks again for your input and best wishes for the future. -- Pjs012915 ( talk) 21:31, 6 May 2009 (UTC) pjs012915
Hi. An editor has deleted (see [1]) the inclusion of David D'Or as a subject of this (and a number of other) wikiprojects. I believe that D'Or belongs. Can someone who is involved in this wikiproject please a look? D'Or both composes and sings music, including a Eurovision entry, a great number of his songs, and some significant classical music as indicated at his article. I'm not pre-supposing the level of importance of his music to this wikiproject, but that can of course be reflected in the assessment. If you have a view, pls feel free to express it on the D'Or talk page. Many thanks.-- Ethelh ( talk) 02:41, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
The discussion is at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Robert Davidson (composer), if members wish to comment. Voceditenore ( talk) 11:52, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
Another WP:Notability (or possibly hoax) question. Gyuszi Mészáros is stubby, its one source appears to be non-existent, and its creator did nothing else in the way of editing. Furthermore, hu.wp does not have an article by that name. AfD/CSD material? Magic ♪piano 13:21, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
Someone has started this trend by creating the categories: Italian Renaissance composers, English Renaissance composers, Scottish Renaissance composers, and Welsh Renaissance composers, and putting the fitting composers in the proper category. I have expanded Renaissance composers to include other nationalities, and have done things in a similar manner with Baroque composers. Thoughts? Marcus2 ( talk) 14:20, 27 April 2009 (UTC)