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Once again we have an issue regarding including commemorative coins in music articles, (see here). I wonder if we need to make a guideline on when and when not to include coin/stamp/banknote images and information in articles? Thanks. -- Klein zach 02:08, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
(re-margining...)
Hi Kleinzach, what a metaphor you are using! I'm guess I'm not ready for the Battle of the Somme, but perhaps a minor raid in no-man's land? A Google search of WP hunting for "composer" or "music" with "commemorative coin" found:
Perhaps first check each one that it's truly not kosher to use, then remove, asking for the required permissions to be obtained first? No time for me to do this now, but I could take it on soon... Cheers, Opus33 ( talk) 23:38, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
Guys, there is no copyright infrigment (yet), if there is I will remove them my self. Still that gives you no right to remove the prose (over the copyright issue). I am a very reasonable person, and what I see here is you guys teaming against me, that can easily escalate ... Miguel.mateo ( talk) 05:26, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
We're probably only seeing the tip of the iceberg here. There are coins on articles about places, sports, mythology and whatever — and all in the same style. -- Klein zach 06:04, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
Miguel.mateo has broken the 3RR, see here [5]. If he's really going to stop this nonsense now I suggest we don't report it. There's nothing personal about this, all that is necessary is the removal of the images (and accompanying text) from articles where they are copyright infringements.-- Klein zach 06:33, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
This has now been raised at ANI by Buster7 and Miguel.mateo, see Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Commemorative_Coin_Controversy. -- Klein zach 14:34, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
Here is a possible text for a guideline for the project page and for Mustard:
Please agree, disagree, hack or whatever as appropriate! -- Klein zach 01:15, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
Looks like a good idea to me. My one quibble is: are we really in a position to discern the motivation (financial or otherwise) of someone who posts coin info? Perhaps best better just to address the bad consequences (i.e. listing trivia) Opus33 ( talk) 06:40, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
Re. DavidRF's comment above, perhaps we should have a trivia guideline here and for Mustard? This is adapted from the Opera Project, but maybe it can be developed.
-- Klein zach 02:56, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
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All designated project coordinators are invited to join this working group. If your project hasn't formally designated any editors as coordinators, but you are someone who regularly deals with coordination tasks in the project, please feel free to join as well. §hep Talk 00:22, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
This again, see here. -- Klein zach 02:52, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
This has just been made a redirect to Vivaldi: JCII G T? To understand the true meaning, replace eaċh letter with the one that comes two letters before it in the alphabet. Does anybody know what is going on here? -- Klein zach 05:48, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
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Thanks. — Headbomb { ταλκ κοντριβς – WP Physics} 08:59, 15 March, 2009 (UTC)
FYI, there are a lot of missing songwriters and composers listed at Wikipedia:WikiProject Missing encyclopedic articles/biographies. Examples:
etc. – Quadell ( talk) 18:50, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
I've noticed an IP remove quotes from Grove from both Igor Stravinsky and Dmitri Shostakovich citing that they are "entirely subjective and don't belong in an encyclopedic entry". Since Grove itself is an encyclopedia I can see the point of not using it as a source directly, but it seems to me the IP is missing the point of using a direct quote in the first place. Thoughts? ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ ( talk) 11:43, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
I am soliciting attention to the possibility of setting up a Haydn and Mozart daughter project. I have initiated discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Classical_music#Haydn_.2B_Mozart_Sub-Project and warmly welcome any thoughts editors may have. Eusebeus ( talk) 16:31, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
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Once again we have an issue regarding including commemorative coins in music articles, (see here). I wonder if we need to make a guideline on when and when not to include coin/stamp/banknote images and information in articles? Thanks. -- Klein zach 02:08, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
(re-margining...)
Hi Kleinzach, what a metaphor you are using! I'm guess I'm not ready for the Battle of the Somme, but perhaps a minor raid in no-man's land? A Google search of WP hunting for "composer" or "music" with "commemorative coin" found:
Perhaps first check each one that it's truly not kosher to use, then remove, asking for the required permissions to be obtained first? No time for me to do this now, but I could take it on soon... Cheers, Opus33 ( talk) 23:38, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
Guys, there is no copyright infrigment (yet), if there is I will remove them my self. Still that gives you no right to remove the prose (over the copyright issue). I am a very reasonable person, and what I see here is you guys teaming against me, that can easily escalate ... Miguel.mateo ( talk) 05:26, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
We're probably only seeing the tip of the iceberg here. There are coins on articles about places, sports, mythology and whatever — and all in the same style. -- Klein zach 06:04, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
Miguel.mateo has broken the 3RR, see here [5]. If he's really going to stop this nonsense now I suggest we don't report it. There's nothing personal about this, all that is necessary is the removal of the images (and accompanying text) from articles where they are copyright infringements.-- Klein zach 06:33, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
This has now been raised at ANI by Buster7 and Miguel.mateo, see Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Commemorative_Coin_Controversy. -- Klein zach 14:34, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
Here is a possible text for a guideline for the project page and for Mustard:
Please agree, disagree, hack or whatever as appropriate! -- Klein zach 01:15, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
Looks like a good idea to me. My one quibble is: are we really in a position to discern the motivation (financial or otherwise) of someone who posts coin info? Perhaps best better just to address the bad consequences (i.e. listing trivia) Opus33 ( talk) 06:40, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
Re. DavidRF's comment above, perhaps we should have a trivia guideline here and for Mustard? This is adapted from the Opera Project, but maybe it can be developed.
-- Klein zach 02:56, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
Hi! I'd like to draw your attention to the new WikiProject coordinators' working group, an effort to bring both official and unofficial WikiProject coordinators together so that the projects can more easily develop consensus and collaborate. This group has been created after discussion regarding possible changes to the A-Class review system, and that may be one of the first things discussed by interested coordinators.
All designated project coordinators are invited to join this working group. If your project hasn't formally designated any editors as coordinators, but you are someone who regularly deals with coordination tasks in the project, please feel free to join as well. §hep Talk 00:22, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
This again, see here. -- Klein zach 02:52, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
This has just been made a redirect to Vivaldi: JCII G T? To understand the true meaning, replace eaċh letter with the one that comes two letters before it in the alphabet. Does anybody know what is going on here? -- Klein zach 05:48, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
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Thanks. — Headbomb { ταλκ κοντριβς – WP Physics} 08:59, 15 March, 2009 (UTC)
FYI, there are a lot of missing songwriters and composers listed at Wikipedia:WikiProject Missing encyclopedic articles/biographies. Examples:
etc. – Quadell ( talk) 18:50, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
I've noticed an IP remove quotes from Grove from both Igor Stravinsky and Dmitri Shostakovich citing that they are "entirely subjective and don't belong in an encyclopedic entry". Since Grove itself is an encyclopedia I can see the point of not using it as a source directly, but it seems to me the IP is missing the point of using a direct quote in the first place. Thoughts? ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ ( talk) 11:43, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
I am soliciting attention to the possibility of setting up a Haydn and Mozart daughter project. I have initiated discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Classical_music#Haydn_.2B_Mozart_Sub-Project and warmly welcome any thoughts editors may have. Eusebeus ( talk) 16:31, 25 March 2009 (UTC)