This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 5 | ← | Archive 7 | Archive 8 | Archive 9 | Archive 10 | Archive 11 | → | Archive 15 |
An anonymous user has been adding links to quite a lot of annotated games on Youtube. See e.g. the external links section at Bobby Fischer or Mikhail Tal. I'm in two minds about them. On one hand, the links go up almost as soon as they go up on youtube, which is a fairly sure sign of self-promotion. On the other hand, I watched one (R.Byrne-Fischer) and it was moderately enjoyable, and I don't know of other free chess videos out there. So what action, if any, should be taken. Leave them? Delete as spam? Or something else, e.g. request the user to register? Peter Ballard 00:17, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
I posted the following message on the wikiproject China, however, maybe somebody on here might be able to help: "Recently, the List of national chess championships has grown considerably and now we cover all major nations, except for China (which is getting very strong at traditional chess). It would be nice to cover China as well. However, I can't find a list with winners in English. I found two lists in Chinese however: [1] (men and women) and [2] (men only). It would be great if someone who can read Chinese would be so kind to translate this list (men and women) and put it in the article Chinese Chess Championship. For an example of another national chess championship, see for instance Japanese Chess Championship or Spanish Chess Championship. Shouldn't be too much work for China since the championship started in 1957 (1979 for women), with a lot of duplicated names." Best regards, Voorlandt 09:25, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
Does anyone know the exact issue of New In Chess which covers David Howell's knockout of a tournament director - is it No 3 2005?-- ZincBelief ( talk) 16:54, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
Sorry if there's somewhere else I should be asking this/somewhere that already tells me, I'm new to this. If an article has been assessed once but improved since, is there any way of getting it reassessed? Circular chess is currently rated as "start" but I've done quite a bit of work on it since. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chile Nose Jam ( talk • contribs) 22:54, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
Chess is currently on featured article review. 64.231.243.178 23:20, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
What is the correct white move 33? There is a disagreement among sources, see Talk:Threefold repetition. Bubba73 (talk), 05:16, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
I have created my first World Championship page. It is called World Chess Championship 1886 I haven't done detailed analysis due to lack of time/ability (I am approximately 1750 ELO/146 ECF). Just wondering if people like the format that I have done it in. If anybody has any more interesting facts/analysis, please feel free to add to it! Andy4226uk ( talk) 01:27, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
The Chessgames.com article was deleted not too long ago for failing to establish notability. A new version is being crafted at User:ZeroOne/ChessGames.com with the help of the Chessgames.com members. Please, read the article and improve as you like! Be bold but remember to leave good edit summaries. — ZeroOne ( talk / @) 02:12, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
The article is now up at ChessGames.com! — ZeroOne ( talk / @) 01:00, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
I talked about writing a program to generate chess diagrams for Wikipedia, and I've finally done it. It runs on Windows. Select the piece or symbol you want to drop on the chessboard in the list on the left, then click on the square. There are also areas to enter a header and footer and buttons to clear, etc. Every time you click on the board, the template is updated. Changing the footer or header does not update the diagram, but there is a button to make it update. The diagram is shown in an area on the right and you can copy and paste it. However, there is an option to have it automatically put the diagram in your clipboard, so then all you have to do is paste. This option is on by default. It is called WikiChessDiagram.exe and you can download the program here. It is freeware. I started it last night (shortly after returning from my daughter's scholastic chess tournament) and finished it today. I'm also using a new ISP for hosting the file - I'll get a web page for downloading later. Let me know of any problems, suggestions, of comments. Bubba73 (talk), 21:34, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
Chess has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here. -- Kaypoh ( talk) 08:11, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Which was the last move in his game vs. Thomas in London and when it was? en.wiki gives Kd2, mentioning year 1911 (as a book Шахматные миниатюры by A. Roizman does), de.wiki - 0-0-0, mentioning year 1912 (as a book Шахматный лекторий by O. Yermakoff does). 89.201.57.201 ( talk) 20:43, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
Some new templates have been included in this article; I can't say I like them - templates for templates' sake? For one thing, a large percentage of biographical articles relate to players who have represented their country - do they all need one of these templates? I hope not. Maybe this and the medal (honours) info. could be added as an option on the existing player profile template, if thought to be helpful. Any views? Brittle heaven ( talk) 11:04, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
We still need photos/images of many high profile players who otherwise have good articles. Looking around wikipedia, it seems that copyright can be waived in some circumstances eg. the subject is deceased, there are no free alternatives available, etc. An excellent example is the photo with very comprehensive and hopefully easily replicated template attached to the Frank Parr article.
[I am no copyright law expert though, so if anyone can see a flaw in this strategy, then please discuss!]
Of course, first port of call is 'Wiki Commons' to see what is already available. Otherwise reproductions from books, magazines and the internet can all be considered I guess.
Leading (deceased) players still missing a photo include, in no particular order,
Paul Keres
Tony Miles
Max Euwe
Erich Eliskases
Carlos Torre Repetto
Wolfgang Unzicker
John Wisker
Henry Bird
Richard Reti
Karl Robatsch
Akiba Rubinstein
Reuben Fine
Arnold Denker
Jan Hein Donner
Mir Sultan Khan
CHO'D Alexander
Daniel Yanofsky
Miguel Najdorf
Samuel Reshevsky
Rudolf Spielmann
Vera Menchik
Ludek Pachman
Harry Golombek
Lev Polugaevsky
Viacheslav Ragozin
Amos Burn and I'm sure many others that you'll feel I've missed - please feel free to add them to this list.
Is there anyone out there who is good with images and has some time on their hands? All volounteers welcome! Brittle heaven ( talk) 02:58, 30 December 2007 (UTC).
Also need Mikhail Tal, and better ones of Capablanca, Spassky and Smyslov. Bubba73 (talk), 03:04, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
I am not entirely happy with the title, which I took in analogy to Football around the world, but I think the article itself is useful. It replaces and expands on the List of national chess championships. For now, I have added every country in the Category:Chess by country (89 of about 160 countries that are member of FIDE). I also added a section on supernational chess federations and championships. Some questions:
Voorlandt ( talk) 10:49, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
I recently browsed our article and shortly afterwards had reason to visit Bill Wall's useful (typos aside) Chess History and Chronology, which can be viewed at http://www.geocities.com:80/SiliconValley/Lab/7378/history.txt . It occurred to me that Wall's helpful resource could disappear at any time and all of that compiling work would be lost forever. Presumably, his material could be copied or merged with ours, as it is only a collection of facts and has no original (copyrighted) content. At the very least, it made me wonder if our article should aspire to a more ambitious and comprehensive account of historical facts. I suppose, on the negative side, the more momentous events would be less easily found amongst a large list of facts and it may be difficult to decide what merits inclusion - however, guidelines could be drawn up to tackle this latter point, and I do like the idea of a central repository for all those 'one-off' chess facts that otherwise disappear into the ether because they don't warrant a separate article. Any thoughts? -- Brittle heaven ( talk) 12:23, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
Do we need an article about the "Soviet School of Chess"? Aspects worth covering: Kotov and Yudovich's book "The Soviet School of Chess" (I don't have a copy, so would need help with this bit); whether it was a "school" in the intellectual / artistic sense or just a hegemony; the Soviet coaching system; common tendencies of Soviet players (flexible interpretation of principles of chess strategy, of which one of the early manifestations was Bronstein's handling of the King's Indian; common openings, e.g. in the early 1970s as Black they liked the Tartakower variation of the QGD and 3 or 4 lines in the Closed Morphy Defence to the Ruy Lopez, as White almost all favoured 1. e4). Philcha ( talk) 14:54, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
This category name is highly confusing, since Chinese chess is the common English name for a different board game, and one would naturally expect it to be filled with players of Chinese chess. Any suggestions on renaming it? 70.51.9.174 ( talk) 07:47, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
The fairly new article Reggio Emilia chess tournament mentions categories, the FIDE system for ranking the strength of a tournament. I don't think we explain the category system anywhere. Does anyone want to take that on? Where would the best place to put a description be: new article (under what name?), a new section on the FIDE page, or a new section on the Elo rating system page? Wherever it might go, it would be handy if it was easy to link. We could add category ratings to more chess tournament articles, such as Corus chess tournament and List of strong chess tournaments (in both cases only for tournaments after 1970). Quale ( talk) 21:27, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
Just thought I mention it here: Almost all chess olympiads (see Category:Chess Olympiads) have an article now! This is great news, however the recently created articles are all stubs. I am not sure whether User:Gollenaiven is planning to expand them. Voorlandt ( talk) 21:33, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
I started some discussion on the talk page of the stalemate article regarding breaking out the general usage of the term into its own article, and how to handle the subsequent necessary disambiguation, redirects, etc. Baccyak4H ( Yak!) 16:17, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
The new user Bitopar is adding some links to www.365chess.com in a lot of chess articles, e.g. in List of chess openings or in Vassily Ivanchuk. See its "User contributions" for the total list. I have some questions about that:
SyG ( talk) 19:42, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
I recently edited Polish Immortal to make it clearer to read. I used a table, which could be considered bad style. I wondered if there was any example as to how it should be done.
LaurenceHygate ( talk) 14:57, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
At Talk:José Raúl Capablanca it has been pointed out that the way we give scores is hard to understand if you don't know what the system is. That is, (+11 -9 =4) is not clear to many people, and the same for 9.5/12. This will be a major undertaking to change since it is in probably over 1,000 articles.
In several of the articles I've tried to write it out in words, but the problem is too large. I also see problems with "=1st" etc. For one thing, the MoS says that small numbers should spelled out, so it should be "equal first place" or "tied for first place" - something like that. I've changed a lot of these, but there are thousands of them.
Finally, since scores are either an integer or half-integer, I do not like ".5" amd ".0" scores. I think 9 and 9½ are better than 9.0 and 9.5. Bubba73 (talk), 17:32, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
Another pet peeve, but one that isn't too widespread. In many cases you see things such as "URS-ch24". We know that means the 24th USSR championship (or is it the 1924 championship). but most people would not know that. Bubba73 (talk), 03:43, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
Golombek's encyclopedia says that
Tigran Petrosian was editor of
64 (chess magazine) until 1977, but I've read in several places that he was fired from that job following the match he lost to Fischer in 1971. Did he get that job back after a short time?
Bubba73
(talk),
17:04, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
a | b | c | d | e | f | g | h | ||
8 | 8 | ||||||||
7 | 7 | ||||||||
6 | 6 | ||||||||
5 | 5 | ||||||||
4 | 4 | ||||||||
3 | 3 | ||||||||
2 | 2 | ||||||||
1 | 1 | ||||||||
a | b | c | d | e | f | g | h |
All of the conventional wisdom in the literature I can recall says to force the king into any corner and then checkmate the king in the corner or on a square on the edge next to the corner. Basic Chess Endings by Fine and Benko says that on page 3. But on page 4 they give a forced checkmate that is a square farther from the corner. In their example, the king was forced into the corner first. (1) Can this checkmate two squares from the corner be forced without first forcing the king into the corner? (2) Can it be forced on the edge three squares from the corner?
Bubba73
(talk),
04:01, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
Many of the bios give a sample game or moves of an opening, but they don't have {{chess notation}} , Just going through some of the US champions, I found eight that needed the tag. Bubba73 (talk), 03:01, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
a | b | c | d | e | f | g | h | ||
8 | 8 | ||||||||
7 | 7 | ||||||||
6 | 6 | ||||||||
5 | 5 | ||||||||
4 | 4 | ||||||||
3 | 3 | ||||||||
2 | 2 | ||||||||
1 | 1 | ||||||||
a | b | c | d | e | f | g | h |
a | b | c | d | e | f | g | h | ||
8 | 8 | ||||||||
7 | 7 | ||||||||
6 | 6 | ||||||||
5 | 5 | ||||||||
4 | 4 | ||||||||
3 | 3 | ||||||||
2 | 2 | ||||||||
1 | 1 | ||||||||
a | b | c | d | e | f | g | h |
Has there been a recent change to the chess diagram template? All of a sudden, diagrams that have a blank before the header are treating it like regular text when there is a leading space - putting it in a box and using fix-spacing font.
Bubba73
(talk),
04:29, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
Speaking of photos, I found a very interesting (at least I think so) of World Chess Championship 1948 - all five players together. Check it out. Bubba73 (talk), 02:44, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
SyG suggested bringing the discussion here.
Some time ago I added some links to 365Chess.com in sections like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_chess_openings and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Encyclopaedia_of_Chess_Openings that pointed to http://www.365chess.com/eco.php or http://www.365chess.com/eco/A00_Polish_(Sokolsky)_opening/games
Yesterday SyG started the deletion of all these links. Here is what we talked until now:
Masugly ( talk) 13:51, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
Now my opinion
I think that 365Chess.com deserves space here as I said before. As a response to SyG’s concerns: SyG said that some pages have already links to chessgames.com. 365chess.com has an interesting difference from ChessGames.com: it is completely free. In ChessGames.com you can’t browse the entire explorer being a free member and in 365Chess you can see all its levels and there is no premium membership.
I must say that I like ChessGames.com very much. I play regular correspondence chess and I use it a lot as reference. So this is not, in anyway, a discussion against a notable and important website like ChessGames.com. I like to share my point of view about the differences.
Another difference is the quantity of games. ChessGames.com has 455,706 games (as its stats say) and 365Chess.com has more than 3.5 million games. In this aspect I think that 365Chess.com comparable to ChessBase rather to ChessGames.
BTW none of the pages I mentioned above has links to ChessGames.com
Then SyG mentioned that 365Chess.com is a pretty new site and make a reference to the “Longevity”paragraph at the External links Guidelines.
There I can read: “It is very important to consider if the link is likely to remain relevant and acceptable to the article in the foreseeable future. For example, it is not useful to link to a homepage that changes often and merely happens to have a relevant picture or article on its front page at the moment.”
I think this clearly not the case of 365chess.com.It’s noticeable that a lot of effort has been put in its development and I’m sure that nothing indicates that it may disappear in the foreseeable future. I really understand SyG concerns about this point specially but I think there’s nothing to be afraid of.
I don’t want to continue bother you all with a long text but I think the theme deserves a discussion. Thank you all
Masugly ( talk) 21:01, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
I created articles (in de.wikipedia.org) on Johannes Kohtz and Carl Kockelkorn a few days ago and translated them today to english language. Please add these to your page with new chess articles. I don't find it. -- Con structor 12:59, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
{{Chess-WikiProject|importance=|class=}}
on the article Talk page. Then add the article to the appropriate section of
List of chess topics.
Quale (
talk)
15:33, 12 February 2008 (UTC)a | b | c | d | e | f | g | h | ||
8 | 8 | ||||||||
7 | 7 | ||||||||
6 | 6 | ||||||||
5 | 5 | ||||||||
4 | 4 | ||||||||
3 | 3 | ||||||||
2 | 2 | ||||||||
1 | 1 | ||||||||
a | b | c | d | e | f | g | h |
Headers have quit working in the chess diagram template. Has something changed?
Bubba73
(talk),
03:17, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
Every source I could find says that Mikhail Tal died on June 28, except that his gravestone says June 27. This is no big deal, but an editor changed it to the 27th today. What is correct? Bubba73 (talk), 03:32, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
This page is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 5 | ← | Archive 7 | Archive 8 | Archive 9 | Archive 10 | Archive 11 | → | Archive 15 |
An anonymous user has been adding links to quite a lot of annotated games on Youtube. See e.g. the external links section at Bobby Fischer or Mikhail Tal. I'm in two minds about them. On one hand, the links go up almost as soon as they go up on youtube, which is a fairly sure sign of self-promotion. On the other hand, I watched one (R.Byrne-Fischer) and it was moderately enjoyable, and I don't know of other free chess videos out there. So what action, if any, should be taken. Leave them? Delete as spam? Or something else, e.g. request the user to register? Peter Ballard 00:17, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
I posted the following message on the wikiproject China, however, maybe somebody on here might be able to help: "Recently, the List of national chess championships has grown considerably and now we cover all major nations, except for China (which is getting very strong at traditional chess). It would be nice to cover China as well. However, I can't find a list with winners in English. I found two lists in Chinese however: [1] (men and women) and [2] (men only). It would be great if someone who can read Chinese would be so kind to translate this list (men and women) and put it in the article Chinese Chess Championship. For an example of another national chess championship, see for instance Japanese Chess Championship or Spanish Chess Championship. Shouldn't be too much work for China since the championship started in 1957 (1979 for women), with a lot of duplicated names." Best regards, Voorlandt 09:25, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
Does anyone know the exact issue of New In Chess which covers David Howell's knockout of a tournament director - is it No 3 2005?-- ZincBelief ( talk) 16:54, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
Sorry if there's somewhere else I should be asking this/somewhere that already tells me, I'm new to this. If an article has been assessed once but improved since, is there any way of getting it reassessed? Circular chess is currently rated as "start" but I've done quite a bit of work on it since. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chile Nose Jam ( talk • contribs) 22:54, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
Chess is currently on featured article review. 64.231.243.178 23:20, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
What is the correct white move 33? There is a disagreement among sources, see Talk:Threefold repetition. Bubba73 (talk), 05:16, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
I have created my first World Championship page. It is called World Chess Championship 1886 I haven't done detailed analysis due to lack of time/ability (I am approximately 1750 ELO/146 ECF). Just wondering if people like the format that I have done it in. If anybody has any more interesting facts/analysis, please feel free to add to it! Andy4226uk ( talk) 01:27, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
The Chessgames.com article was deleted not too long ago for failing to establish notability. A new version is being crafted at User:ZeroOne/ChessGames.com with the help of the Chessgames.com members. Please, read the article and improve as you like! Be bold but remember to leave good edit summaries. — ZeroOne ( talk / @) 02:12, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
The article is now up at ChessGames.com! — ZeroOne ( talk / @) 01:00, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
I talked about writing a program to generate chess diagrams for Wikipedia, and I've finally done it. It runs on Windows. Select the piece or symbol you want to drop on the chessboard in the list on the left, then click on the square. There are also areas to enter a header and footer and buttons to clear, etc. Every time you click on the board, the template is updated. Changing the footer or header does not update the diagram, but there is a button to make it update. The diagram is shown in an area on the right and you can copy and paste it. However, there is an option to have it automatically put the diagram in your clipboard, so then all you have to do is paste. This option is on by default. It is called WikiChessDiagram.exe and you can download the program here. It is freeware. I started it last night (shortly after returning from my daughter's scholastic chess tournament) and finished it today. I'm also using a new ISP for hosting the file - I'll get a web page for downloading later. Let me know of any problems, suggestions, of comments. Bubba73 (talk), 21:34, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
Chess has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here. -- Kaypoh ( talk) 08:11, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Which was the last move in his game vs. Thomas in London and when it was? en.wiki gives Kd2, mentioning year 1911 (as a book Шахматные миниатюры by A. Roizman does), de.wiki - 0-0-0, mentioning year 1912 (as a book Шахматный лекторий by O. Yermakoff does). 89.201.57.201 ( talk) 20:43, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
Some new templates have been included in this article; I can't say I like them - templates for templates' sake? For one thing, a large percentage of biographical articles relate to players who have represented their country - do they all need one of these templates? I hope not. Maybe this and the medal (honours) info. could be added as an option on the existing player profile template, if thought to be helpful. Any views? Brittle heaven ( talk) 11:04, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
We still need photos/images of many high profile players who otherwise have good articles. Looking around wikipedia, it seems that copyright can be waived in some circumstances eg. the subject is deceased, there are no free alternatives available, etc. An excellent example is the photo with very comprehensive and hopefully easily replicated template attached to the Frank Parr article.
[I am no copyright law expert though, so if anyone can see a flaw in this strategy, then please discuss!]
Of course, first port of call is 'Wiki Commons' to see what is already available. Otherwise reproductions from books, magazines and the internet can all be considered I guess.
Leading (deceased) players still missing a photo include, in no particular order,
Paul Keres
Tony Miles
Max Euwe
Erich Eliskases
Carlos Torre Repetto
Wolfgang Unzicker
John Wisker
Henry Bird
Richard Reti
Karl Robatsch
Akiba Rubinstein
Reuben Fine
Arnold Denker
Jan Hein Donner
Mir Sultan Khan
CHO'D Alexander
Daniel Yanofsky
Miguel Najdorf
Samuel Reshevsky
Rudolf Spielmann
Vera Menchik
Ludek Pachman
Harry Golombek
Lev Polugaevsky
Viacheslav Ragozin
Amos Burn and I'm sure many others that you'll feel I've missed - please feel free to add them to this list.
Is there anyone out there who is good with images and has some time on their hands? All volounteers welcome! Brittle heaven ( talk) 02:58, 30 December 2007 (UTC).
Also need Mikhail Tal, and better ones of Capablanca, Spassky and Smyslov. Bubba73 (talk), 03:04, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
I am not entirely happy with the title, which I took in analogy to Football around the world, but I think the article itself is useful. It replaces and expands on the List of national chess championships. For now, I have added every country in the Category:Chess by country (89 of about 160 countries that are member of FIDE). I also added a section on supernational chess federations and championships. Some questions:
Voorlandt ( talk) 10:49, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
I recently browsed our article and shortly afterwards had reason to visit Bill Wall's useful (typos aside) Chess History and Chronology, which can be viewed at http://www.geocities.com:80/SiliconValley/Lab/7378/history.txt . It occurred to me that Wall's helpful resource could disappear at any time and all of that compiling work would be lost forever. Presumably, his material could be copied or merged with ours, as it is only a collection of facts and has no original (copyrighted) content. At the very least, it made me wonder if our article should aspire to a more ambitious and comprehensive account of historical facts. I suppose, on the negative side, the more momentous events would be less easily found amongst a large list of facts and it may be difficult to decide what merits inclusion - however, guidelines could be drawn up to tackle this latter point, and I do like the idea of a central repository for all those 'one-off' chess facts that otherwise disappear into the ether because they don't warrant a separate article. Any thoughts? -- Brittle heaven ( talk) 12:23, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
Do we need an article about the "Soviet School of Chess"? Aspects worth covering: Kotov and Yudovich's book "The Soviet School of Chess" (I don't have a copy, so would need help with this bit); whether it was a "school" in the intellectual / artistic sense or just a hegemony; the Soviet coaching system; common tendencies of Soviet players (flexible interpretation of principles of chess strategy, of which one of the early manifestations was Bronstein's handling of the King's Indian; common openings, e.g. in the early 1970s as Black they liked the Tartakower variation of the QGD and 3 or 4 lines in the Closed Morphy Defence to the Ruy Lopez, as White almost all favoured 1. e4). Philcha ( talk) 14:54, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
This category name is highly confusing, since Chinese chess is the common English name for a different board game, and one would naturally expect it to be filled with players of Chinese chess. Any suggestions on renaming it? 70.51.9.174 ( talk) 07:47, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
The fairly new article Reggio Emilia chess tournament mentions categories, the FIDE system for ranking the strength of a tournament. I don't think we explain the category system anywhere. Does anyone want to take that on? Where would the best place to put a description be: new article (under what name?), a new section on the FIDE page, or a new section on the Elo rating system page? Wherever it might go, it would be handy if it was easy to link. We could add category ratings to more chess tournament articles, such as Corus chess tournament and List of strong chess tournaments (in both cases only for tournaments after 1970). Quale ( talk) 21:27, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
Just thought I mention it here: Almost all chess olympiads (see Category:Chess Olympiads) have an article now! This is great news, however the recently created articles are all stubs. I am not sure whether User:Gollenaiven is planning to expand them. Voorlandt ( talk) 21:33, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
I started some discussion on the talk page of the stalemate article regarding breaking out the general usage of the term into its own article, and how to handle the subsequent necessary disambiguation, redirects, etc. Baccyak4H ( Yak!) 16:17, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
The new user Bitopar is adding some links to www.365chess.com in a lot of chess articles, e.g. in List of chess openings or in Vassily Ivanchuk. See its "User contributions" for the total list. I have some questions about that:
SyG ( talk) 19:42, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
I recently edited Polish Immortal to make it clearer to read. I used a table, which could be considered bad style. I wondered if there was any example as to how it should be done.
LaurenceHygate ( talk) 14:57, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
At Talk:José Raúl Capablanca it has been pointed out that the way we give scores is hard to understand if you don't know what the system is. That is, (+11 -9 =4) is not clear to many people, and the same for 9.5/12. This will be a major undertaking to change since it is in probably over 1,000 articles.
In several of the articles I've tried to write it out in words, but the problem is too large. I also see problems with "=1st" etc. For one thing, the MoS says that small numbers should spelled out, so it should be "equal first place" or "tied for first place" - something like that. I've changed a lot of these, but there are thousands of them.
Finally, since scores are either an integer or half-integer, I do not like ".5" amd ".0" scores. I think 9 and 9½ are better than 9.0 and 9.5. Bubba73 (talk), 17:32, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
Another pet peeve, but one that isn't too widespread. In many cases you see things such as "URS-ch24". We know that means the 24th USSR championship (or is it the 1924 championship). but most people would not know that. Bubba73 (talk), 03:43, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
Golombek's encyclopedia says that
Tigran Petrosian was editor of
64 (chess magazine) until 1977, but I've read in several places that he was fired from that job following the match he lost to Fischer in 1971. Did he get that job back after a short time?
Bubba73
(talk),
17:04, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
a | b | c | d | e | f | g | h | ||
8 | 8 | ||||||||
7 | 7 | ||||||||
6 | 6 | ||||||||
5 | 5 | ||||||||
4 | 4 | ||||||||
3 | 3 | ||||||||
2 | 2 | ||||||||
1 | 1 | ||||||||
a | b | c | d | e | f | g | h |
All of the conventional wisdom in the literature I can recall says to force the king into any corner and then checkmate the king in the corner or on a square on the edge next to the corner. Basic Chess Endings by Fine and Benko says that on page 3. But on page 4 they give a forced checkmate that is a square farther from the corner. In their example, the king was forced into the corner first. (1) Can this checkmate two squares from the corner be forced without first forcing the king into the corner? (2) Can it be forced on the edge three squares from the corner?
Bubba73
(talk),
04:01, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
Many of the bios give a sample game or moves of an opening, but they don't have {{chess notation}} , Just going through some of the US champions, I found eight that needed the tag. Bubba73 (talk), 03:01, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
a | b | c | d | e | f | g | h | ||
8 | 8 | ||||||||
7 | 7 | ||||||||
6 | 6 | ||||||||
5 | 5 | ||||||||
4 | 4 | ||||||||
3 | 3 | ||||||||
2 | 2 | ||||||||
1 | 1 | ||||||||
a | b | c | d | e | f | g | h |
a | b | c | d | e | f | g | h | ||
8 | 8 | ||||||||
7 | 7 | ||||||||
6 | 6 | ||||||||
5 | 5 | ||||||||
4 | 4 | ||||||||
3 | 3 | ||||||||
2 | 2 | ||||||||
1 | 1 | ||||||||
a | b | c | d | e | f | g | h |
Has there been a recent change to the chess diagram template? All of a sudden, diagrams that have a blank before the header are treating it like regular text when there is a leading space - putting it in a box and using fix-spacing font.
Bubba73
(talk),
04:29, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
Speaking of photos, I found a very interesting (at least I think so) of World Chess Championship 1948 - all five players together. Check it out. Bubba73 (talk), 02:44, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
SyG suggested bringing the discussion here.
Some time ago I added some links to 365Chess.com in sections like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_chess_openings and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Encyclopaedia_of_Chess_Openings that pointed to http://www.365chess.com/eco.php or http://www.365chess.com/eco/A00_Polish_(Sokolsky)_opening/games
Yesterday SyG started the deletion of all these links. Here is what we talked until now:
Masugly ( talk) 13:51, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
Now my opinion
I think that 365Chess.com deserves space here as I said before. As a response to SyG’s concerns: SyG said that some pages have already links to chessgames.com. 365chess.com has an interesting difference from ChessGames.com: it is completely free. In ChessGames.com you can’t browse the entire explorer being a free member and in 365Chess you can see all its levels and there is no premium membership.
I must say that I like ChessGames.com very much. I play regular correspondence chess and I use it a lot as reference. So this is not, in anyway, a discussion against a notable and important website like ChessGames.com. I like to share my point of view about the differences.
Another difference is the quantity of games. ChessGames.com has 455,706 games (as its stats say) and 365Chess.com has more than 3.5 million games. In this aspect I think that 365Chess.com comparable to ChessBase rather to ChessGames.
BTW none of the pages I mentioned above has links to ChessGames.com
Then SyG mentioned that 365Chess.com is a pretty new site and make a reference to the “Longevity”paragraph at the External links Guidelines.
There I can read: “It is very important to consider if the link is likely to remain relevant and acceptable to the article in the foreseeable future. For example, it is not useful to link to a homepage that changes often and merely happens to have a relevant picture or article on its front page at the moment.”
I think this clearly not the case of 365chess.com.It’s noticeable that a lot of effort has been put in its development and I’m sure that nothing indicates that it may disappear in the foreseeable future. I really understand SyG concerns about this point specially but I think there’s nothing to be afraid of.
I don’t want to continue bother you all with a long text but I think the theme deserves a discussion. Thank you all
Masugly ( talk) 21:01, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
I created articles (in de.wikipedia.org) on Johannes Kohtz and Carl Kockelkorn a few days ago and translated them today to english language. Please add these to your page with new chess articles. I don't find it. -- Con structor 12:59, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
{{Chess-WikiProject|importance=|class=}}
on the article Talk page. Then add the article to the appropriate section of
List of chess topics.
Quale (
talk)
15:33, 12 February 2008 (UTC)a | b | c | d | e | f | g | h | ||
8 | 8 | ||||||||
7 | 7 | ||||||||
6 | 6 | ||||||||
5 | 5 | ||||||||
4 | 4 | ||||||||
3 | 3 | ||||||||
2 | 2 | ||||||||
1 | 1 | ||||||||
a | b | c | d | e | f | g | h |
Headers have quit working in the chess diagram template. Has something changed?
Bubba73
(talk),
03:17, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
Every source I could find says that Mikhail Tal died on June 28, except that his gravestone says June 27. This is no big deal, but an editor changed it to the 27th today. What is correct? Bubba73 (talk), 03:32, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
This page is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |