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Diagrams that are not "small" seem to be showing up with the pieces on ranks 1-7 shifted one file to the right. See castling or Fool's mate at checkmate. This seems to affect only ones that aren't "small". Bubba73 (You talkin' to me?), 17:24, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
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The following are of doubtful notability.
What do you think? Regards, SunCreator ( talk) 12:02, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
Just now I created Magesh Chandran Panchanathan article. When I wanted to add it to the Index of chess articles I saw there... Magesh Panchanathan. :-) What can we do now? -- MrsHudson ( talk) 17:13, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
I thought that a "technical draw" was a draw by stalemate, threefold, 50-move, or impossibility of checkmate, i.e. not by agreement. I was reading in a book by Evans today that a technical draw is only when checkmate is impossible. Is that correct? Bubba73 (You talkin' to me?), 03:20, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
Done. And this quote about grandmaster draws at draw by agreement doesn't make sense: "Unless you are of the calibre of Botvinnik – and who is – you cannot hope to play at full power day after day. The technical draws are a necessary means of conserving energy. " Bubba73 (You talkin' to me?), 01:12, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
Someone has put a {{ fact}} on a note at the top of the lead of Alexander Alekhine, and I agree per WP:V. I've searched for over and hour, and look through my meagre set of books, and got nothing. From most important to least, I'd love get citations for: -- Philcha ( talk) 06:27, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
-- Philcha ( talk) 06:27, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
I would suggest as a start this article at Chess Cafe by Hans Kmoch, which states "'Alekhine' became the only correct spelling in the Latin alphabet when its bearer took French citizenship" and "Alekhine used to get angry if his name was pronounced Al-YOH-khin, the way Russians sometimes pronounced it. The correct Russian pronunciation, he said, was Al-YEH-khin, explaining that the name was derived from that of a tree (‘alyesha’) that grew abundantly near one of his family’s estates. ‘Al-YOH-khin’, he claimed, was a Yiddish distortion of his name, like Trotsky for Troitsky or Feigl for the German Vogel. But strangely, no-one whom I ever heard pronounce the name Al-YOH-khin was Jewish.""-- Pawnkingthree ( talk) 19:31, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
Edith Keller-Herrmann has died on May 12th, according to the website of the German magazine Schach. http://zeitschriftschach.de/aktuell/aktuell.htm -- Con structor 20:39, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
Since mid-2008 I've developed a set of tools and techniques that I've used in editing and reviewing articles - including stuff I've found hard to find from WP "official" sources. You might want to copy it from User:Philcha#Tools to somewhere in WP:Chess: userboxes don't live for ever; and your project should update your copy from the experiences from its members. I hope you find this helpful. -- Philcha ( talk) 22:54, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
If you think the toolbox is useful, perhaps you can help me with Capablanca, where I need citations to resolve 3 {{ fact}} tags:
Yesterday I moved the page Nonna Karakashyan to Nonna Karakashian, because it seemed to me that FIDE's spelling is preferable. A bit later the author of the article Yu783 undid my move by inserting text from Nonna Karakashian to Nonna Karakashyan, and then created a redirect. As he explained, the spelling "Karakashyan" is more recognizable. I did not mind, but the problem is the following: the page history is distorted and now I became... the author of Nonna Karakashyan article, which was actually started by Yu783. Could anyone please advise me what to do? -- MrsHudson ( talk) 19:11, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
With fairy pieces, I find that several share letters. For example, the S is used for both the ship, and the inverted knight. Is there a possibility of making this uniform? I can make any required pieces, but most are available. I've started such a plan on my userspace here, but I'm not sure where to go, or to make it useful for diagram creators. NikNaks talk - gallery - commons 12:57, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
The article says that quote "His works influenced numerous other players, including Savielly Tartakower, Milan Vidmar, Richard Réti, Akiba Rubinstein, Bent Larsen, and Tigran Petrosian, and his influence is still felt today." There is no doubt that Nimzowitsch's work influenced many top players however I am surprised to see Vidmar and Rubinstein mentioned there. Weren't those two classical style players more influenced for example by Steinitz and Tarrasch? Dr. Loosmark 23:34, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
Someone merged Kotov syndrome in to his article but left the project tag on the talk page and left it in index of chess articles. If this merge is to stand, those need to be fixed. How do editors feel about the separate article? (I think Kotov syndrome is also in the glossary of chess.) Bubba73 (You talkin' to me?), 15:22, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
Should Alexandra Obolentseva be kept or deleted? She was the 2009 Russian girls under 8 years old champion. Bubba73 (You talkin' to me?), 16:25, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
Just for fun, here is an interesting situation. In this game Fifty-move rule#Lputian vs. Haroutjunian Black was two pawns down and defended well for 55 moves. During those 55 moves there were no captures or pawn moves. Then he made a bad move and resigned on the next move - when he could have claimed a draw by the fifty-move rule! He must have forgotten about it. Bubba73 (You talkin' to me?), 14:51, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
Any and all, please look in on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Valeri Lilov (2nd nomination). Thanks, Chzz ► 15:05, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
At Elo rating system talk page, a reader asks how to pronounce Elo. I don't know (other than Eee-low). What is it? Bubba73 (You talkin' to me?), 03:18, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
Trouble on rook (chess) again. I've reverted it twice. Bubba73 (You talkin' to me?), 19:48, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
I propose removed or reducing the coverage of the Nazi tournament from 1942 in the European Individual Chess Championship article. Of course that tournament wasn't really a European Championship other in that the Nazis found the title "European Championship" fancy. Dr. Loosmark 19:24, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
The start class articles of mid importance is showing up as Category:Start-Class chess articles of ¬-importance. I don't know how to fix it. Bubba73 (You talkin' to me?), 04:23, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
I've had to revert three times today on Wesley So, so someone else please watch this article. Bubba73 (You talkin' to me?), 00:12, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
It would be helpful if some experienced chess people took a look at the new article priyome. The article claims this is a Russian term for a chess concept. I actually don't doubt that this is true, but I don't think that it is an article in the English wikipedia because I am not aware of this term ever being used in English. If you have an opinion whether pro or con, please visit Talk:priyome. Quale ( talk) 03:11, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
I don't know if this is the appropriate place to ask this question, but I was redirected here from the mathematics reference desk. Would anyone be able to recommend some good chess books for self-study? I consider myself a competent player, but everything I've learnt was from playing and I figure a more formal education would both improve my game and be an enjoyable way to spend some of my free time over the summer. 74.15.137.192 ( talk) 16:37, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for the great suggestions guys! Regarding Seirawans's books; what level are they geared towards? My dad gave me a Chess for dummies book, and...not to sounds arrogant or anything, but it was pretty lame, and a bit insulting to my intelligence (I do NOT consider myself a dummy :) ). This was my first and only exposure to chess books, so I don't know that much about chess, but I would still like something challenging. 74.15.137.192 ( talk) 06:05, 23 July 2010 (UTC) Related question: is there a good (free) site to play chess on? 74.15.137.192 ( talk) 06:35, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
Excuse me for my English. I'm using Google translator from Russian. I am the author of “Business chess” and one of the authors of a new article about chess in Wikipedia - Business chess.
In this connection I would like to discuss two issues.
1. Do we really need spectacular chess, suitable for TV broadcast?
2. What will happen with chess in the near future? (See article Sports Business Games and the Third Revolution in Sport.).
Those wishing to discuss these issues please respond. Ovakim ( talk) 19:19, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
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There is an article about this kid, who supposedly became the world's youngest rated player at about age 4.75 (with a walloping 1283 rating). He is also on the List of world records in chess for this supposed distinction. I don't see how it can be proved that this kid is the youngest ever to have a rating, and in any event this doesn't strike me as notable. Thoughts? Krakatoa ( talk) 04:06, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
This page has been blanked because of a possible copyright violation. Bubba73 (You talkin' to me?), 02:57, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
The article should be moved back to its correct title "PCA World Chess Championship 1995". The article was moved by user:Brendanwinter back in October 2006. The term "classical" was invented much later and I recall Kaspy was critical of it. Dr. Loosmark 22:48, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
Two points:
I agree that we need to identify the series in order to distinguish between the co-existent world champions. Whether "Classical" refers to classical format (challenger vs champion) or classical time controls, neither of which were adopted by the FIDE (official, but daft) knockout tournaments, probably doesn't matter; more importantly, the word works in either sense. Certainly, it's a contender and may be the most generic and pragmatic choice. Brittle heaven ( talk) 16:53, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
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It is now in the concluding phase. Bubba73 (You talkin' to me?), 04:39, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
There are several short articles on individual opening traps. I saw Bogo-Indian Defence, Monticelli Trap and recommended merging it into the main article. But there are several others, such as Ruy Lopez, Tarrasch Trap. Both of these have (short) entries in the Oxford Companion. There are other similar articles such as
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Sometimes playing in an Olympiad is considered enough to make a player notable. This year there are 1300 players in the Olympiad, so I think that criteria is too weak - it admits too many people.
I want to throw out two possible criteria for consideration:
I coach my daughter's scholastic chess club. One student just started learning the moves two weeks ago. Yesterday the student asked "Can a knight move like a lower-case L?". Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 21:31, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
I want to propose a new article - an opening index, ordered by the moves. List of chess openings goes part of the way, but what I have in mind is an article (mainly a list) that gives the opening moves in some order and links to the Wikipedia article about them. The Oxfod Companion and some opening books do this. It would not have to be nearly as complete as the Oxford Companion (which has about 1300 listings), since it would only link to existing articles. This is a bigger job than I want to take on alone. Is anyone interested? Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 05:43, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
but this would list only ones that have a Wikipedia article. But so far there isn't much support for the idea. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 23:27, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
Howdy, What are the notability guidelines for a chess player? Does grandmaster automatically give you WP:N? A different ranking? Joe407 ( talk) 12:01, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
The Stonewall Attack AfD was closed and the article was kept. No one was for deletion except the nominator. This has come up before and is likely to come up again, for other openings (and even some other chess articles). It even came up for Rules of chess! I think it is a good idea to save a link to the AfD discussion Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Stonewall_Attack to use it for a precedent if there are similar AfDs. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 02:07, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
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I would like to nominate Judit Polgár and Ashot Nadanian articles for A-class. I believe they are good enough. What do you think? -- MrsHudson ( talk) 21:00, 20 October 2010 (UTC) |
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The review has been open since 20th October, and has failed to gain three endorsements. Moreover, it seems noone is trying to fix the comments and concerns from the reviewers anymore. So I shall close the review and the article has failed to reach A-class. SyG ( talk) 14:38, 18 December 2010 (UTC) |
This review is done in the scope of the WikiProject Chess and is transcluded from Wikipedia:WikiProject Chess/Review/Ashot Nadanian. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
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I would like to nominate Judit Polgár and Ashot Nadanian articles for A-class. I believe they are good enough. What do you think? -- MrsHudson ( talk) 21:00, 20 October 2010 (UTC) |
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Possible. For Judit Polgár the Illustrative games section is unreferenced. For Ashot Nadanian the notable games is poorly referenced and there is no reason to believe they are 'notable' as such. Also why is the Washington Post excerpt not a WP:COPYVIO. Regards, SunCreator ( talk) 13:08, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
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Support A class. The article is very informative, well structured and fully sourced. -- Yegishe ( talk) 14:37, 27 December 2010 (UTC) |
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Support. I have contributed a bit to the article. It has had an amazing improvement thanks to MrsHudson. After the copyediting by SyG, there seems to be little left to change. I Do Care ( talk) 11:48, 12 January 2011 (UTC) |
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All remarks and concerns expressed by the reviewers have been dealt with appropriately. More than three approvals have been gathered ( Yegishe, SyG, I Do Care). So I shall close this review and pass the article to A-class. SyG ( talk) 14:15, 6 March 2011 (UTC) |
Could someone have a look at Drazen vujacic? I'm not sure if he's notable. PhilKnight ( talk) 19:32, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
Is Rest of the world really a chess article? It has no references and only mentions chess in two short sentences. It's marked as a chess stub, has the wikiproject chess tag on the talk page and is on the index of chess articles shared watchlist. I don't really care about the stub or project tagging, but I'd be happy to see it taken off the index of chess articles. Does anyone think it should stay? Quale ( talk) 05:19, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
Thomas Pym is listed at AfD. Please see discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Thomas Pym. wjemather bigissue 14:17, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
What you guys think about Chess in somewhere articles like Chess in China? I think it would be easier to work on chess history if we split by countries with a relevant background for chess. I already created for Spain, German, United Kingdon, Persia, India, Italy, Scandinavia, Arab world, France and Russia in pt:wiki. Chess and something articles are really nice too. Sunnucks's encyclopaedia has Chess and religion, Chess and Royalty and its a good coverage in others chess's encyclopaedias for Chess in art, ballet, postage stamps, etc. Regards! OTAVIO1981 ( talk) 12:27, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
The article London Chess Classic needs updating, as the second edition of this chess festival is currently in progress. I have this year's programme booklet, but most of the details are available at the website. I would update it myself, but I'm not sure how to reorganise it into 2009 and 2010 sections. I could also get more pictures, if anyone wanted to make any requests (would a picture of the subsidiary events be of interest?). Carcharoth ( talk) 00:52, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
I removed this unused link WP:CHS from this WikiProject, as WP:CHESS is much more used. In WikiProject Cultural Heritage of Serbia, CHS will be main and only short link to project. I hope that you will have understanding for this, as it looks like you dont need this at all, while we will need it very very much! Thanks in advance, all best! -- WhiteWriter speaks 21:04, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
If anyone lives in New York near 23 West 10th Street, and has a camera, a photo for Marshall Chess Club would be lovely. Front door, interior, anything would be great. Oh, and on the way out, scream "CHECKMATE!" as loud as you can.
Many thanks. Anna Frodesiak ( talk) 08:32, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
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The Knight's tour animation is Today's featured picture today so may like to keep a watch on the Knight's tour and other related articles. Regards, SunCreator ( talk) 00:22, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
This is probably the first article on chess on Wikipedia, about 10 years ago. You've come a long way, baby ! SyG ( talk) 17:18, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
Does anyone have information that Pal Benko died? Twice it has been put in his article, but we can find no verification of it. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 16:08, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
Hi, I've come across the Grand Slam Chess Association, along with the template {{ Grand Slam Chess}} and noticed they list different tourneys. Which is right? Thanks, -- JaGa talk 00:41, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
Hi. I created a template as for the men : Template:Women's World Chess Championships and a article for the upcoming 2011 championship. Have a look and correct any mistakes you may find. Thanks. - Koppapa ( talk) 14:08, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
An editor recently tried to change Zukertort's cause of death in the article World Chess Championship 1886, rightly pointing out that 'Stroke/Heart Attack' contradicts the Johannes Zukertort page, which gives 'Cerebral Haemhorrage'. The editor was reverted - I imagine he gave no reason for choosing one over the other.
It would be better if we could be consistent on this, nonetheless.
I can see that the Encyclopedias by Sunnucks and Golombek both go for the haemhorrage, whereas Kings of Chess by Hartston and The Oxford Companion To Chess by Hooper and Whyld, both support Stroke/Heart Attack. Two other sources I checked (Schonberg and Horowitz) don't give the cause of death.
Anyone have any other reliable sources? It would be interesting to see what the relevant, contemporary 1888 British Chess Magazine reported. Does anyone have access to scanned versions - presumably they're not copyrighted any more? Are there any other suggestions for resolving the contradiction? Brittle heaven ( talk) 14:01, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
This new article ( Outline of chess) is similar to index of chess articles, except that it is organized into an outline (of chess). It isn't going to list all chess articles (not every biography, every tournament article, etc). You might want to help flesh out this article. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 01:53, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
Aside from the removal of my Youtube annotated games yesterday, please check for broken links on the Chess World champion pages. The Capablanca page has a broken link now to my old www.chessclub.demon.co.uk server now in the External links section. But perhaps there are other broken links on these very important world champion pages. I hope that all Chess world champion pages can be checked by you guys. I think Wiki chess is a fantastic reference which I often praise in my videos, and even if my videos are disallowed in the External links section, I would just like to say it is a fantastic chess resource overall. Kingscrusher ( talk) 11:02, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
Quale has removed all my Youtube video links yesterday which I added, and more from before. Now these were individual playlist links which my friend JessicaFischerqueen was compiling for me. E.g. I am working on a Bronstein playlist here: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=0DB4C778C29411CA I think my videos are of high quality, and do not breach copyright. I am a Youtube partner, as well as being a FIDE CM (was over 2200 many years back), also a British Regional master, and a Chessbase presenter on Tuesday evenings. My ECF is 199, and FIDE currently about 2150. May I ask for the permission to have my Youtuybe playlists reinstated from the World champion pages please?! Also, he removed my edit correction of an external link to a Capablanca Biography which was originally on chessclub.demon.co.uk (and is now currently a broken link after the indescriminate destuction of all my past Wiki contributions by Quale yesterday). The new Capablanca bio page is at: http://www.gtryfon.demon.co.uk/bcc/culture/worldchampions/capablanca/capablanca.htm because I had to move server from chessclub.demon.co.uk to gtryfon.demon.co.uk. I have done several bios on World champions before Wiki even existed on the Internet at: http://www.gtryfon.demon.co.uk/bcc/culture/culturemain.htm The Capablanca Wiki page in question is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jos%C3%A9_Ra%C3%BAl_Capablanca - was it not noted by Quale that the original current link is currently broken?! Kingscrusher ( talk) 10:51, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
To start with I would like to praise the quality of Kingscrusher’s videos. As a subscriber I have found them to be of the highest standard with insightful contributions to both the study of chess and to its history.
With regards to Pawnkingthree’s criticism, that inserting a link to these videos constitutes a conflict of interest, I’m afraid I must respectfully disagree. Pawnkingthree claims that one, “shouldn't add links to videos in which you yourself appear.” This however is not Wikipedia’s stance. In the page conflict of interest under the subheading “Citing oneself” Wikipedia makes clear that,
“Editing in an area in which you have professional or academic expertise is not, in itself, a conflict of interest. Using material you yourself have written or published is allowed within reason, but only if it is relevant and conforms to the content policies.”
From this we can conclude that individuals are in fact permitted to provide links to their own work on the condition the link is relevant and that one has expertise in that particular field. This principle is self evident, after all if a world renowned historian were to edit a history page it would be absurd to prevent him citing his own work merely on the grounds that he had written it!
I would argue that Kingscrusher’s work is entirely relevant to the pages on which links have been posted. It is difficult to see how one could argue that annotated Bronstein games are not relevant to page about Bronstein! Furthermore holding titles as a FIDE Candidate Master and British Regional Master more than justifies the term “professional expertise”.
Therefore if we conclude that the links are relevant and Kingscrusher does have enough expertise to provide a useful contribution then it is not only senseless to remove his links but also against Wikipedia’s own policies.
O.Twentyman ( talk) 16:03, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
There have been several edits across all the wikipedia chess related pages involving the game Chaturanga. I was wanting some help as regards the sources being used. My main interest is in the Chinese chess Xiangqi#History section.
There ar claims that a chinese game Liubo which dramatically predates chaturanga. History of board games is tricky but the time line of chess would suggest a common proto-game Chaturaji sounds very similar to Liubo. There is an argument that the invention went in the other direction.
I'd like to get confirmation from better sources but these are rare i.e. British Museum Library or Bodlean Library which I am not currently near. So I would like to know if anyone has seen any of the books cited to see if they contain evidence or are just speculation. As clearly a book title with chess can be argued to have a point of view, definitely a clean up is needed. Tetron76 ( talk) 14:19, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
See Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Board_and_table_games#Biographies and people in categories
I am hoping to build guidelines for notability criteria for what makes someone notable in the games field i.e. Wikipedia:Notability_(sports)#Curling. Especially games players that I feel needs to have a section similar to the sports and athletes. An example of a question that has just arisen is does winning the first scrabble world championship count as just WP:Oneevent. Combined contribution issues also need defining.
The other conversation is do we want to have category inclusion criteria does a certain threshold need to be met before we add someone to Category:Chess players. Should Ben Afleck count as a poker player? Tetron76 ( talk) 15:02, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
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Diagrams that are not "small" seem to be showing up with the pieces on ranks 1-7 shifted one file to the right. See castling or Fool's mate at checkmate. This seems to affect only ones that aren't "small". Bubba73 (You talkin' to me?), 17:24, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
Fixed
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The following are of doubtful notability.
What do you think? Regards, SunCreator ( talk) 12:02, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
Just now I created Magesh Chandran Panchanathan article. When I wanted to add it to the Index of chess articles I saw there... Magesh Panchanathan. :-) What can we do now? -- MrsHudson ( talk) 17:13, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
I thought that a "technical draw" was a draw by stalemate, threefold, 50-move, or impossibility of checkmate, i.e. not by agreement. I was reading in a book by Evans today that a technical draw is only when checkmate is impossible. Is that correct? Bubba73 (You talkin' to me?), 03:20, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
Done. And this quote about grandmaster draws at draw by agreement doesn't make sense: "Unless you are of the calibre of Botvinnik – and who is – you cannot hope to play at full power day after day. The technical draws are a necessary means of conserving energy. " Bubba73 (You talkin' to me?), 01:12, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
Someone has put a {{ fact}} on a note at the top of the lead of Alexander Alekhine, and I agree per WP:V. I've searched for over and hour, and look through my meagre set of books, and got nothing. From most important to least, I'd love get citations for: -- Philcha ( talk) 06:27, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
-- Philcha ( talk) 06:27, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
I would suggest as a start this article at Chess Cafe by Hans Kmoch, which states "'Alekhine' became the only correct spelling in the Latin alphabet when its bearer took French citizenship" and "Alekhine used to get angry if his name was pronounced Al-YOH-khin, the way Russians sometimes pronounced it. The correct Russian pronunciation, he said, was Al-YEH-khin, explaining that the name was derived from that of a tree (‘alyesha’) that grew abundantly near one of his family’s estates. ‘Al-YOH-khin’, he claimed, was a Yiddish distortion of his name, like Trotsky for Troitsky or Feigl for the German Vogel. But strangely, no-one whom I ever heard pronounce the name Al-YOH-khin was Jewish.""-- Pawnkingthree ( talk) 19:31, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
Edith Keller-Herrmann has died on May 12th, according to the website of the German magazine Schach. http://zeitschriftschach.de/aktuell/aktuell.htm -- Con structor 20:39, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
Since mid-2008 I've developed a set of tools and techniques that I've used in editing and reviewing articles - including stuff I've found hard to find from WP "official" sources. You might want to copy it from User:Philcha#Tools to somewhere in WP:Chess: userboxes don't live for ever; and your project should update your copy from the experiences from its members. I hope you find this helpful. -- Philcha ( talk) 22:54, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
If you think the toolbox is useful, perhaps you can help me with Capablanca, where I need citations to resolve 3 {{ fact}} tags:
Yesterday I moved the page Nonna Karakashyan to Nonna Karakashian, because it seemed to me that FIDE's spelling is preferable. A bit later the author of the article Yu783 undid my move by inserting text from Nonna Karakashian to Nonna Karakashyan, and then created a redirect. As he explained, the spelling "Karakashyan" is more recognizable. I did not mind, but the problem is the following: the page history is distorted and now I became... the author of Nonna Karakashyan article, which was actually started by Yu783. Could anyone please advise me what to do? -- MrsHudson ( talk) 19:11, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
With fairy pieces, I find that several share letters. For example, the S is used for both the ship, and the inverted knight. Is there a possibility of making this uniform? I can make any required pieces, but most are available. I've started such a plan on my userspace here, but I'm not sure where to go, or to make it useful for diagram creators. NikNaks talk - gallery - commons 12:57, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
The article says that quote "His works influenced numerous other players, including Savielly Tartakower, Milan Vidmar, Richard Réti, Akiba Rubinstein, Bent Larsen, and Tigran Petrosian, and his influence is still felt today." There is no doubt that Nimzowitsch's work influenced many top players however I am surprised to see Vidmar and Rubinstein mentioned there. Weren't those two classical style players more influenced for example by Steinitz and Tarrasch? Dr. Loosmark 23:34, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
Someone merged Kotov syndrome in to his article but left the project tag on the talk page and left it in index of chess articles. If this merge is to stand, those need to be fixed. How do editors feel about the separate article? (I think Kotov syndrome is also in the glossary of chess.) Bubba73 (You talkin' to me?), 15:22, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
Should Alexandra Obolentseva be kept or deleted? She was the 2009 Russian girls under 8 years old champion. Bubba73 (You talkin' to me?), 16:25, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
Just for fun, here is an interesting situation. In this game Fifty-move rule#Lputian vs. Haroutjunian Black was two pawns down and defended well for 55 moves. During those 55 moves there were no captures or pawn moves. Then he made a bad move and resigned on the next move - when he could have claimed a draw by the fifty-move rule! He must have forgotten about it. Bubba73 (You talkin' to me?), 14:51, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
Any and all, please look in on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Valeri Lilov (2nd nomination). Thanks, Chzz ► 15:05, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
At Elo rating system talk page, a reader asks how to pronounce Elo. I don't know (other than Eee-low). What is it? Bubba73 (You talkin' to me?), 03:18, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
Trouble on rook (chess) again. I've reverted it twice. Bubba73 (You talkin' to me?), 19:48, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
I propose removed or reducing the coverage of the Nazi tournament from 1942 in the European Individual Chess Championship article. Of course that tournament wasn't really a European Championship other in that the Nazis found the title "European Championship" fancy. Dr. Loosmark 19:24, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
The start class articles of mid importance is showing up as Category:Start-Class chess articles of ¬-importance. I don't know how to fix it. Bubba73 (You talkin' to me?), 04:23, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
I've had to revert three times today on Wesley So, so someone else please watch this article. Bubba73 (You talkin' to me?), 00:12, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
It would be helpful if some experienced chess people took a look at the new article priyome. The article claims this is a Russian term for a chess concept. I actually don't doubt that this is true, but I don't think that it is an article in the English wikipedia because I am not aware of this term ever being used in English. If you have an opinion whether pro or con, please visit Talk:priyome. Quale ( talk) 03:11, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
I don't know if this is the appropriate place to ask this question, but I was redirected here from the mathematics reference desk. Would anyone be able to recommend some good chess books for self-study? I consider myself a competent player, but everything I've learnt was from playing and I figure a more formal education would both improve my game and be an enjoyable way to spend some of my free time over the summer. 74.15.137.192 ( talk) 16:37, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for the great suggestions guys! Regarding Seirawans's books; what level are they geared towards? My dad gave me a Chess for dummies book, and...not to sounds arrogant or anything, but it was pretty lame, and a bit insulting to my intelligence (I do NOT consider myself a dummy :) ). This was my first and only exposure to chess books, so I don't know that much about chess, but I would still like something challenging. 74.15.137.192 ( talk) 06:05, 23 July 2010 (UTC) Related question: is there a good (free) site to play chess on? 74.15.137.192 ( talk) 06:35, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
Excuse me for my English. I'm using Google translator from Russian. I am the author of “Business chess” and one of the authors of a new article about chess in Wikipedia - Business chess.
In this connection I would like to discuss two issues.
1. Do we really need spectacular chess, suitable for TV broadcast?
2. What will happen with chess in the near future? (See article Sports Business Games and the Third Revolution in Sport.).
Those wishing to discuss these issues please respond. Ovakim ( talk) 19:19, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
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There is an article about this kid, who supposedly became the world's youngest rated player at about age 4.75 (with a walloping 1283 rating). He is also on the List of world records in chess for this supposed distinction. I don't see how it can be proved that this kid is the youngest ever to have a rating, and in any event this doesn't strike me as notable. Thoughts? Krakatoa ( talk) 04:06, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
This page has been blanked because of a possible copyright violation. Bubba73 (You talkin' to me?), 02:57, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
The article should be moved back to its correct title "PCA World Chess Championship 1995". The article was moved by user:Brendanwinter back in October 2006. The term "classical" was invented much later and I recall Kaspy was critical of it. Dr. Loosmark 22:48, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
Two points:
I agree that we need to identify the series in order to distinguish between the co-existent world champions. Whether "Classical" refers to classical format (challenger vs champion) or classical time controls, neither of which were adopted by the FIDE (official, but daft) knockout tournaments, probably doesn't matter; more importantly, the word works in either sense. Certainly, it's a contender and may be the most generic and pragmatic choice. Brittle heaven ( talk) 16:53, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
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It is now in the concluding phase. Bubba73 (You talkin' to me?), 04:39, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
There are several short articles on individual opening traps. I saw Bogo-Indian Defence, Monticelli Trap and recommended merging it into the main article. But there are several others, such as Ruy Lopez, Tarrasch Trap. Both of these have (short) entries in the Oxford Companion. There are other similar articles such as
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Sometimes playing in an Olympiad is considered enough to make a player notable. This year there are 1300 players in the Olympiad, so I think that criteria is too weak - it admits too many people.
I want to throw out two possible criteria for consideration:
I coach my daughter's scholastic chess club. One student just started learning the moves two weeks ago. Yesterday the student asked "Can a knight move like a lower-case L?". Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 21:31, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
I want to propose a new article - an opening index, ordered by the moves. List of chess openings goes part of the way, but what I have in mind is an article (mainly a list) that gives the opening moves in some order and links to the Wikipedia article about them. The Oxfod Companion and some opening books do this. It would not have to be nearly as complete as the Oxford Companion (which has about 1300 listings), since it would only link to existing articles. This is a bigger job than I want to take on alone. Is anyone interested? Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 05:43, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
but this would list only ones that have a Wikipedia article. But so far there isn't much support for the idea. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 23:27, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
Howdy, What are the notability guidelines for a chess player? Does grandmaster automatically give you WP:N? A different ranking? Joe407 ( talk) 12:01, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
The Stonewall Attack AfD was closed and the article was kept. No one was for deletion except the nominator. This has come up before and is likely to come up again, for other openings (and even some other chess articles). It even came up for Rules of chess! I think it is a good idea to save a link to the AfD discussion Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Stonewall_Attack to use it for a precedent if there are similar AfDs. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 02:07, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
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I would like to nominate Judit Polgár and Ashot Nadanian articles for A-class. I believe they are good enough. What do you think? -- MrsHudson ( talk) 21:00, 20 October 2010 (UTC) |
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The review has been open since 20th October, and has failed to gain three endorsements. Moreover, it seems noone is trying to fix the comments and concerns from the reviewers anymore. So I shall close the review and the article has failed to reach A-class. SyG ( talk) 14:38, 18 December 2010 (UTC) |
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I would like to nominate Judit Polgár and Ashot Nadanian articles for A-class. I believe they are good enough. What do you think? -- MrsHudson ( talk) 21:00, 20 October 2010 (UTC) |
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Possible. For Judit Polgár the Illustrative games section is unreferenced. For Ashot Nadanian the notable games is poorly referenced and there is no reason to believe they are 'notable' as such. Also why is the Washington Post excerpt not a WP:COPYVIO. Regards, SunCreator ( talk) 13:08, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
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Support A class. The article is very informative, well structured and fully sourced. -- Yegishe ( talk) 14:37, 27 December 2010 (UTC) |
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Support. I have contributed a bit to the article. It has had an amazing improvement thanks to MrsHudson. After the copyediting by SyG, there seems to be little left to change. I Do Care ( talk) 11:48, 12 January 2011 (UTC) |
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All remarks and concerns expressed by the reviewers have been dealt with appropriately. More than three approvals have been gathered ( Yegishe, SyG, I Do Care). So I shall close this review and pass the article to A-class. SyG ( talk) 14:15, 6 March 2011 (UTC) |
Could someone have a look at Drazen vujacic? I'm not sure if he's notable. PhilKnight ( talk) 19:32, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
Is Rest of the world really a chess article? It has no references and only mentions chess in two short sentences. It's marked as a chess stub, has the wikiproject chess tag on the talk page and is on the index of chess articles shared watchlist. I don't really care about the stub or project tagging, but I'd be happy to see it taken off the index of chess articles. Does anyone think it should stay? Quale ( talk) 05:19, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
Thomas Pym is listed at AfD. Please see discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Thomas Pym. wjemather bigissue 14:17, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
What you guys think about Chess in somewhere articles like Chess in China? I think it would be easier to work on chess history if we split by countries with a relevant background for chess. I already created for Spain, German, United Kingdon, Persia, India, Italy, Scandinavia, Arab world, France and Russia in pt:wiki. Chess and something articles are really nice too. Sunnucks's encyclopaedia has Chess and religion, Chess and Royalty and its a good coverage in others chess's encyclopaedias for Chess in art, ballet, postage stamps, etc. Regards! OTAVIO1981 ( talk) 12:27, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
The article London Chess Classic needs updating, as the second edition of this chess festival is currently in progress. I have this year's programme booklet, but most of the details are available at the website. I would update it myself, but I'm not sure how to reorganise it into 2009 and 2010 sections. I could also get more pictures, if anyone wanted to make any requests (would a picture of the subsidiary events be of interest?). Carcharoth ( talk) 00:52, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
I removed this unused link WP:CHS from this WikiProject, as WP:CHESS is much more used. In WikiProject Cultural Heritage of Serbia, CHS will be main and only short link to project. I hope that you will have understanding for this, as it looks like you dont need this at all, while we will need it very very much! Thanks in advance, all best! -- WhiteWriter speaks 21:04, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
If anyone lives in New York near 23 West 10th Street, and has a camera, a photo for Marshall Chess Club would be lovely. Front door, interior, anything would be great. Oh, and on the way out, scream "CHECKMATE!" as loud as you can.
Many thanks. Anna Frodesiak ( talk) 08:32, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
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This is probably the first article on chess on Wikipedia, about 10 years ago. You've come a long way, baby ! SyG ( talk) 17:18, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
Does anyone have information that Pal Benko died? Twice it has been put in his article, but we can find no verification of it. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 16:08, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
Hi, I've come across the Grand Slam Chess Association, along with the template {{ Grand Slam Chess}} and noticed they list different tourneys. Which is right? Thanks, -- JaGa talk 00:41, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
Hi. I created a template as for the men : Template:Women's World Chess Championships and a article for the upcoming 2011 championship. Have a look and correct any mistakes you may find. Thanks. - Koppapa ( talk) 14:08, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
An editor recently tried to change Zukertort's cause of death in the article World Chess Championship 1886, rightly pointing out that 'Stroke/Heart Attack' contradicts the Johannes Zukertort page, which gives 'Cerebral Haemhorrage'. The editor was reverted - I imagine he gave no reason for choosing one over the other.
It would be better if we could be consistent on this, nonetheless.
I can see that the Encyclopedias by Sunnucks and Golombek both go for the haemhorrage, whereas Kings of Chess by Hartston and The Oxford Companion To Chess by Hooper and Whyld, both support Stroke/Heart Attack. Two other sources I checked (Schonberg and Horowitz) don't give the cause of death.
Anyone have any other reliable sources? It would be interesting to see what the relevant, contemporary 1888 British Chess Magazine reported. Does anyone have access to scanned versions - presumably they're not copyrighted any more? Are there any other suggestions for resolving the contradiction? Brittle heaven ( talk) 14:01, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
This new article ( Outline of chess) is similar to index of chess articles, except that it is organized into an outline (of chess). It isn't going to list all chess articles (not every biography, every tournament article, etc). You might want to help flesh out this article. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 01:53, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
Aside from the removal of my Youtube annotated games yesterday, please check for broken links on the Chess World champion pages. The Capablanca page has a broken link now to my old www.chessclub.demon.co.uk server now in the External links section. But perhaps there are other broken links on these very important world champion pages. I hope that all Chess world champion pages can be checked by you guys. I think Wiki chess is a fantastic reference which I often praise in my videos, and even if my videos are disallowed in the External links section, I would just like to say it is a fantastic chess resource overall. Kingscrusher ( talk) 11:02, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
Quale has removed all my Youtube video links yesterday which I added, and more from before. Now these were individual playlist links which my friend JessicaFischerqueen was compiling for me. E.g. I am working on a Bronstein playlist here: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=0DB4C778C29411CA I think my videos are of high quality, and do not breach copyright. I am a Youtube partner, as well as being a FIDE CM (was over 2200 many years back), also a British Regional master, and a Chessbase presenter on Tuesday evenings. My ECF is 199, and FIDE currently about 2150. May I ask for the permission to have my Youtuybe playlists reinstated from the World champion pages please?! Also, he removed my edit correction of an external link to a Capablanca Biography which was originally on chessclub.demon.co.uk (and is now currently a broken link after the indescriminate destuction of all my past Wiki contributions by Quale yesterday). The new Capablanca bio page is at: http://www.gtryfon.demon.co.uk/bcc/culture/worldchampions/capablanca/capablanca.htm because I had to move server from chessclub.demon.co.uk to gtryfon.demon.co.uk. I have done several bios on World champions before Wiki even existed on the Internet at: http://www.gtryfon.demon.co.uk/bcc/culture/culturemain.htm The Capablanca Wiki page in question is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jos%C3%A9_Ra%C3%BAl_Capablanca - was it not noted by Quale that the original current link is currently broken?! Kingscrusher ( talk) 10:51, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
To start with I would like to praise the quality of Kingscrusher’s videos. As a subscriber I have found them to be of the highest standard with insightful contributions to both the study of chess and to its history.
With regards to Pawnkingthree’s criticism, that inserting a link to these videos constitutes a conflict of interest, I’m afraid I must respectfully disagree. Pawnkingthree claims that one, “shouldn't add links to videos in which you yourself appear.” This however is not Wikipedia’s stance. In the page conflict of interest under the subheading “Citing oneself” Wikipedia makes clear that,
“Editing in an area in which you have professional or academic expertise is not, in itself, a conflict of interest. Using material you yourself have written or published is allowed within reason, but only if it is relevant and conforms to the content policies.”
From this we can conclude that individuals are in fact permitted to provide links to their own work on the condition the link is relevant and that one has expertise in that particular field. This principle is self evident, after all if a world renowned historian were to edit a history page it would be absurd to prevent him citing his own work merely on the grounds that he had written it!
I would argue that Kingscrusher’s work is entirely relevant to the pages on which links have been posted. It is difficult to see how one could argue that annotated Bronstein games are not relevant to page about Bronstein! Furthermore holding titles as a FIDE Candidate Master and British Regional Master more than justifies the term “professional expertise”.
Therefore if we conclude that the links are relevant and Kingscrusher does have enough expertise to provide a useful contribution then it is not only senseless to remove his links but also against Wikipedia’s own policies.
O.Twentyman ( talk) 16:03, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
There have been several edits across all the wikipedia chess related pages involving the game Chaturanga. I was wanting some help as regards the sources being used. My main interest is in the Chinese chess Xiangqi#History section.
There ar claims that a chinese game Liubo which dramatically predates chaturanga. History of board games is tricky but the time line of chess would suggest a common proto-game Chaturaji sounds very similar to Liubo. There is an argument that the invention went in the other direction.
I'd like to get confirmation from better sources but these are rare i.e. British Museum Library or Bodlean Library which I am not currently near. So I would like to know if anyone has seen any of the books cited to see if they contain evidence or are just speculation. As clearly a book title with chess can be argued to have a point of view, definitely a clean up is needed. Tetron76 ( talk) 14:19, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
See Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Board_and_table_games#Biographies and people in categories
I am hoping to build guidelines for notability criteria for what makes someone notable in the games field i.e. Wikipedia:Notability_(sports)#Curling. Especially games players that I feel needs to have a section similar to the sports and athletes. An example of a question that has just arisen is does winning the first scrabble world championship count as just WP:Oneevent. Combined contribution issues also need defining.
The other conversation is do we want to have category inclusion criteria does a certain threshold need to be met before we add someone to Category:Chess players. Should Ben Afleck count as a poker player? Tetron76 ( talk) 15:02, 16 March 2011 (UTC)