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@ Toniher, AKeen, Tomclarke, Acomas, Elizium23, Liam987, Rwxrwxrwx, Culex, Carlstak, AlanWCollins, and Eloi Montes: Pinging all active editors who have registered interest in the project. I think there's a great scope for the project here, if anyone wants to join me and start discussing a to-do list, starting at historical biographies and the current politics of Catalonia could make this project semi-active (or even active) again - I think these may be some of the more popular Catalan-related areas of coverage, and re-activating the project gives editors looking for info/help on these topics a defined area on WP that can support them! Let me know (comment below) if you're still interested in the WikiProject, and we'll take that inactive banner off :) Kingsif ( talk) 15:27, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
Hello, if you speak Occitan, or know it well enough to proofread a short excerpt, can you please have a look at this edit at Judaeo-Spanish? This resulted in the following text, claiming to be in Occitan:
Lo judeocastelhan es la lenga parlada pels jusieus sefarditas expulsats d’Espanha en 1492. Es una lenga venent del castelhan que 150 000 personas la parlan dins de comunautats en Israèl, Turquia, èx-Iogoslavia, Grècia, Marròc, Malhòrca, las Americas, entre fòrça autres luòcs.
If you can comment on this text excerpt at Talk:Judaeo-Spanish, or simply make any needed adjustments directly to the article, that would be great. Mathglot ( talk) 02:08, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
As a contributor to Women in Red, I thought I'd drop some Catalan-language-related women bios that need translating here! Kingsif ( talk) 04:43, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
I just read some of this article on Illa Sonora, a website collecting information on just about every band and song pertaining to Mallorca. It seems notable enough for an article, but does anyone knows anything more to better judge that? Kingsif ( talk) 01:49, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
If you wish to participate with the debate on style advice, please do so here: [ [1]] ping me when responding, gràcies! TheKaloo talk 14:14, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
Hello @ TheKaloo, Avocado J, Kingsif, Eloi Montes, AlanWCollins, Carlstak, Culex, Rwxrwxrwx, Liam987, Elizium23, Alexandrecomas, Tomclarke, AKeen, and Toniher: I've been working on a new home page for this WikiProject over in my draft space, my main goal being to make it all more coherent and lovely. I'm not making any radical changes and will be covering most of the content already on WikiProject Catalan-speaking countries. I'd welcome any feedback you may have down below. The draft is located at User:Bernat Tortajada/sandbox/WP:CATALAN. Bear in mind that it's still a work in progress! Bernat ( talk) 22:34, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
I have (with the help of others) made a small user script to detect and highlight various links to unreliable sources and predatory journals. Some of you may already be familiar with it, given it is currently the 39th most imported script on Wikipedia. The idea is that it takes something like
John Smith "[https://www.deprecated.com/article Article of things]" ''Deprecated.com''. Accessed 2020-02-14.
)and turns it into something like
It will work on a variety of links, including those from {{ cite web}}, {{ cite journal}} and {{ doi}}.
The script is mostly based on WP:RSPSOURCES, WP:NPPSG and WP:CITEWATCH and a good dose of common sense. I'm always expanding coverage and tweaking the script's logic, so general feedback and suggestions to expand coverage to other unreliable sources are always welcomed.
Do note that this is not a script to be mindlessly used, and several caveats apply. Details and instructions are available at User:Headbomb/unreliable. Questions, comments and requests can be made at User talk:Headbomb/unreliable.
This is a one time notice and can't be unsubscribed from. Delivered by: MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 16:01, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
Hello all. I recently made an edit to the article about Lluís Companys, changing the lead from describing him as a "Spanish politician from Catalonia" to simply "Catalan politician". [2] However, this edit was reverted by an IP user, who stated they were "applying consensus". [3] So I thought I'd ask if/where/when consensus was formed on the issue of demonyms in the lead, specifically regarding "Catalan" vs "from Catalonia".
Personally I didn't think anything of the edit, given Companys was first-and-foremost a Catalan politician, not a Spanish politician that happened to be from Catalonia. But I thought I'd bring this up here, both in order to avoid a potential edit war and as it presents a possible inconsistency with other article leads about Catalan persons. Regards. -- Grnrchst ( talk) 11:43, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
A user has been repeteadly removing content from the article stating that it was bias. He also added other content at first without adding sources but it was from unrelated entities or entities stating the same exact things as SCC, in the end no new content or views. We have maintained a conversation but he insists in that the content he wants to remove is biased. The page is now locked and with the changes reverted prior to his edits until March 28. As I understand it, he is threatening to continue removing that content. Can't someone give some insight? He says that stating in the article that SCC says the same as Spanish nationalists regarding an alleged indoctrination in Catalonia school model is bias. For that sentence a reliable source is used to state that SCC denounces indoctrination into Catalan nationalism in Catalonia's school model [4] and another reliable source which states that Spanish nationalism attacks the Catalan school model saying that it is being used to foster separatist sentiments [5]. The user says that stating SCC agrees with Spanish nationalists in that regard is bias. 95.17.250.138 ( talk) 15:40, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
Hello, I was reading Andorra's page when I've noticed this statement:
"The Catalan Pyrenees were embryonic of the Catalan language at the end of the 11th century. Andorra was influenced by this language, which was adopted locally decades before it expanded to the rest of the Crown of Aragon" followed by this reference: [1].
Now, I've briefly read the reference but can't find a direct mention of Andorra actually adopting the language before the rest of the Crown of Aragon, am I missing some lines or does the source actually lack reference? If it is the latter case, does anyone know wheter the the statement is true at all? Thank you! Sacesss ( talk) 09:08, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
References
There is a discussion at Talk:Catalonia#Lead whether the phrase
is a historical European nation, currently administered as an autonomous community of Spain
should be used as the first sentence at Catalonia. Thanks Dank Jae 11:12, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
Home | Talk | Participants | Assessment | MoS |
This is the
talk page for discussing
WikiProject Catalan-speaking countries and anything related to its purposes and tasks. |
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Archives: 1, 2, 3, 4 |
![]() | Catalan-speaking countries NA‑class | ||||||
|
@ Toniher, AKeen, Tomclarke, Acomas, Elizium23, Liam987, Rwxrwxrwx, Culex, Carlstak, AlanWCollins, and Eloi Montes: Pinging all active editors who have registered interest in the project. I think there's a great scope for the project here, if anyone wants to join me and start discussing a to-do list, starting at historical biographies and the current politics of Catalonia could make this project semi-active (or even active) again - I think these may be some of the more popular Catalan-related areas of coverage, and re-activating the project gives editors looking for info/help on these topics a defined area on WP that can support them! Let me know (comment below) if you're still interested in the WikiProject, and we'll take that inactive banner off :) Kingsif ( talk) 15:27, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
Hello, if you speak Occitan, or know it well enough to proofread a short excerpt, can you please have a look at this edit at Judaeo-Spanish? This resulted in the following text, claiming to be in Occitan:
Lo judeocastelhan es la lenga parlada pels jusieus sefarditas expulsats d’Espanha en 1492. Es una lenga venent del castelhan que 150 000 personas la parlan dins de comunautats en Israèl, Turquia, èx-Iogoslavia, Grècia, Marròc, Malhòrca, las Americas, entre fòrça autres luòcs.
If you can comment on this text excerpt at Talk:Judaeo-Spanish, or simply make any needed adjustments directly to the article, that would be great. Mathglot ( talk) 02:08, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
As a contributor to Women in Red, I thought I'd drop some Catalan-language-related women bios that need translating here! Kingsif ( talk) 04:43, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
I just read some of this article on Illa Sonora, a website collecting information on just about every band and song pertaining to Mallorca. It seems notable enough for an article, but does anyone knows anything more to better judge that? Kingsif ( talk) 01:49, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
If you wish to participate with the debate on style advice, please do so here: [ [1]] ping me when responding, gràcies! TheKaloo talk 14:14, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
Hello @ TheKaloo, Avocado J, Kingsif, Eloi Montes, AlanWCollins, Carlstak, Culex, Rwxrwxrwx, Liam987, Elizium23, Alexandrecomas, Tomclarke, AKeen, and Toniher: I've been working on a new home page for this WikiProject over in my draft space, my main goal being to make it all more coherent and lovely. I'm not making any radical changes and will be covering most of the content already on WikiProject Catalan-speaking countries. I'd welcome any feedback you may have down below. The draft is located at User:Bernat Tortajada/sandbox/WP:CATALAN. Bear in mind that it's still a work in progress! Bernat ( talk) 22:34, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
I have (with the help of others) made a small user script to detect and highlight various links to unreliable sources and predatory journals. Some of you may already be familiar with it, given it is currently the 39th most imported script on Wikipedia. The idea is that it takes something like
John Smith "[https://www.deprecated.com/article Article of things]" ''Deprecated.com''. Accessed 2020-02-14.
)and turns it into something like
It will work on a variety of links, including those from {{ cite web}}, {{ cite journal}} and {{ doi}}.
The script is mostly based on WP:RSPSOURCES, WP:NPPSG and WP:CITEWATCH and a good dose of common sense. I'm always expanding coverage and tweaking the script's logic, so general feedback and suggestions to expand coverage to other unreliable sources are always welcomed.
Do note that this is not a script to be mindlessly used, and several caveats apply. Details and instructions are available at User:Headbomb/unreliable. Questions, comments and requests can be made at User talk:Headbomb/unreliable.
This is a one time notice and can't be unsubscribed from. Delivered by: MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 16:01, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
Hello all. I recently made an edit to the article about Lluís Companys, changing the lead from describing him as a "Spanish politician from Catalonia" to simply "Catalan politician". [2] However, this edit was reverted by an IP user, who stated they were "applying consensus". [3] So I thought I'd ask if/where/when consensus was formed on the issue of demonyms in the lead, specifically regarding "Catalan" vs "from Catalonia".
Personally I didn't think anything of the edit, given Companys was first-and-foremost a Catalan politician, not a Spanish politician that happened to be from Catalonia. But I thought I'd bring this up here, both in order to avoid a potential edit war and as it presents a possible inconsistency with other article leads about Catalan persons. Regards. -- Grnrchst ( talk) 11:43, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
A user has been repeteadly removing content from the article stating that it was bias. He also added other content at first without adding sources but it was from unrelated entities or entities stating the same exact things as SCC, in the end no new content or views. We have maintained a conversation but he insists in that the content he wants to remove is biased. The page is now locked and with the changes reverted prior to his edits until March 28. As I understand it, he is threatening to continue removing that content. Can't someone give some insight? He says that stating in the article that SCC says the same as Spanish nationalists regarding an alleged indoctrination in Catalonia school model is bias. For that sentence a reliable source is used to state that SCC denounces indoctrination into Catalan nationalism in Catalonia's school model [4] and another reliable source which states that Spanish nationalism attacks the Catalan school model saying that it is being used to foster separatist sentiments [5]. The user says that stating SCC agrees with Spanish nationalists in that regard is bias. 95.17.250.138 ( talk) 15:40, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
Hello, I was reading Andorra's page when I've noticed this statement:
"The Catalan Pyrenees were embryonic of the Catalan language at the end of the 11th century. Andorra was influenced by this language, which was adopted locally decades before it expanded to the rest of the Crown of Aragon" followed by this reference: [1].
Now, I've briefly read the reference but can't find a direct mention of Andorra actually adopting the language before the rest of the Crown of Aragon, am I missing some lines or does the source actually lack reference? If it is the latter case, does anyone know wheter the the statement is true at all? Thank you! Sacesss ( talk) 09:08, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
References
There is a discussion at Talk:Catalonia#Lead whether the phrase
is a historical European nation, currently administered as an autonomous community of Spain
should be used as the first sentence at Catalonia. Thanks Dank Jae 11:12, 27 March 2024 (UTC)