I was wondering what peoples opinions on the state of categorisation of poultry articles is presently. It strikes me as a confused mess. It's probably going to take quite a few merge and move discussions to clean it up, but as you can see by the categories box on this projects main page, the ones that appear at the top level are a bit confused. Anyone got any thoughts before I dig in and begin proposing changes? JTdale Talk 14:36, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
I was thinking a good way to set up the top level categories might be;
Hallo JTdale, I do the same work at de-wp and did not find the best conclusion, yet ;) Please be carefull with my "names". I am not a native english person...
There may be 4to5 groups of "Poultry" or "captive birds" (?):
Last but not least, categories for maintenance, only
I do get confused with Category:Poultry organizations. What is it for? There are fast-food-restaurants and fany assiciations like the American Bantam Association in one Category? What do they have in common? I'd split them into food/products + breeders/commercial + fancyassociations/non-commercial. -- PigeonIP ( talk) 18:01, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
Wikipedia talk:Article titles#Toward a standard for disambiguating titles of articles on domestic animal breeds may be of interest to editors here. — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼ 23:08, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
My English is not up to a "writing articles"-standard --> I won't write them. But I my mention here what comes to mind:
If this Wikipedia talk:Article titles#Toward a standard for disambiguating titles of articles on domestic animal breeds does not get through, I'd like to undo all the x (chicken) --> x chicken and x (pigeon) --> x pigeon moves.
If you are not shure which breed-name to choose, or which translation: please have a look at www.entente-ee.com/deutsch/sparten/gefluegel/dateien/2013/Verzeichnis%20R%20F%2028042013.xls (all breeds, colours and variations that do have a standard within the European Association) I do use it for categorisation on Commons.
-- PigeonIP ( talk) 16:10, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
Some of these are now being discussed at Talk:Teeswater sheep (yeah, don't ask!). I'll try to put the full list there in the next day or two; it's time-consumng work. Justlettersandnumbers ( talk) 09:26, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
have a look at Talk:Strasser pigeon -- PigeonIP ( talk) 21:41, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
The Indian Runner duck has a taxobox. Is there a better infobox? {{ Infobox poultry breed}} ? -- PigeonIP ( talk) 16:00, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
I was wondering what the best course of action on this is. Presently we have the articles Domesticated turkey, Domesticated guineafowl, Domestic geese and Domestic Duck. Wouldn't a standardisation on which is the proper version to use be a good idea? I'm not particular with MoS procedures, so if people would like to comment that'd be great. JTdale Talk 06:20, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
see Talk:Cornish chicken#Merge with Cornish game hen
Maybe it is better to write two articles about the Indian Game and the (american) Cornish (and Jubilee?). The FAO knows Indian Game AND Cornish in the UK --> DAD-IS: Cornish Game (Large)/United Kingdom Cornish Game (miniature)/United Kingdom Indian Game and in that list are a lot of other Cornish-breeds...
or ignore that person and delete the "merge"-template in both articles. -- PigeonIP ( talk) 10:30, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
Maybe you like to translate it, or use it in an article -- PigeonIP ( talk) 10:57, 2 August 2014 (UTC) another one -- PigeonIP ( talk) 11:00, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
Any thoughts about this? As far as I can see, it's someone's registered brand name for both some rather expensive brown eggs and some rather expensive brown hens. There's been some successful marketing, but I don't see why we need to be part of that. I can't see any evidence that it should be considered a chicken breed. Thoughts? Justlettersandnumbers ( talk) 17:19, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
Is someone fit and willing to sort them out?
There is a mix of the breeds " Jersey Buff" ( fao Jersey Buff/US) and " Buff"( fao Buff/US) that are handled as two separate breeds in the US. Regarding the FAO a turkey called "Buff" is also an English indigenous breed. [4] The Irish [5] and Australian [6] do know a "Buff" (UK or US type, or an own Australian one?) as well. There is a also a buff variation of the Deutsche Pute [7] and the Czech Turkey, but that may go too far. -- PigeonIP ( talk) 14:06, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
"Male and female: Plumage: a deep cinnamon brown, free from cream. Primaries and secondarieS: white, free of buff markings. Beak: Light horn. Eyes: iris dark hazel, pupil blue-black. Legs and feet: pink and flesh." JTdale Talk 05:39, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
// sorry, if I overdo here -- PigeonIP ( talk) 08:48, 23 September 2014 (UTC) //
de | fr | uk | us | au | others |
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-/- (USA) | Dindon bleu d'Amérique |
Slate turkey acc. to EE: not in the UK |
Slate turkey | AU | nhdb.nl ("American slate turkey") |
-/-(USA) | Dindon bronzé d'Amérique | not in the UK | Bronze turkey | AU | nhdl.nl: "American Bronze turkey"; shall be the Standard Bronze in the UK [10] |
-/-(USA) | Dindon noir d'Amérique | not in the UK | Black turkey | AU | nhdl.nl: "Black turkey" |
-/-(USA) | Dindon de Beltsville, blanc | Beltsville Small White | Beltsville Small White | au? | nhdb.nl: "Beltsville small white turkey" |
-/- (F) | Dindon du Bourbonnais, noir | not in the UK | us ? | -/- | a black turkey |
-/- (GB) | -/- | Cambridge bronze | us? | au? | |
Deutsche Pute, Blau | Dindon bleu allemand (B), Dindon Bleu de Suède (FR) |
Blue (Lavender) (?) | us? | AU | nhdb.nl: "Blue turkey" |
Deutsche Pute, Bourbon | Dindon Bourbon rouge | Bourbon Red | Bourbon Red | AU | nhdb.nl (us) |
Deutsche Pute, bronzefarbig | Dindon bronzé allemand | bronze | us? | au? | nhdb.nl: "German bronze turkey" |
Deutsche Pute, Cröllwitzer | Cröllwitzer | Cröllwitzer | us? | -/- | nhdb.nl: "Cröllwitzer turkey" |
Deutsche Pute, gelb | Dindon jaune allemand | buff | us? | au? | nhdb.nl "Yellow German turkey" |
Deutsche Pute, kupfer | -/- | bronce | us? | -/- | nhdb.nl: "Copper turkey" |
Deutsche Pute, Narragansettfarbig | -/- | not in the UK | us? | -/- | |
Deutsche Pute, rot | -/- | not in the UK | us? | -/- | |
Deutsche Pute, rotflügel | Dindon à ailes rouges allemand | not in the UK | us? | -/- | nhdb.nl: "Redwing turkey" |
Deutsche Pute, schwarz | Dindon noir allemand | not in the UK | us? | au? | |
Deutsche Pute, schwarzflügel | Dindon à ailes noires allemand | Black winged bronze | us? | -/- | nhdb.nl: "Blackwing turkey" |
Deutsche Pute, weiß | Dindon blanc allemand | British white | us? | au? | |
-/- (F) | Dindon, porcelaine | not in the UK | us? | -/- | a French turkey |
-/- (F) | Dindon du Gers, nior | not in the UK | us? | -/- | a black French turkey |
-/- (I) | Dindon châtain d'Italie | not in the UK | us? | -/- | it: Tacchino castano d'Italia |
-/- (I) | Dindon noir d'Italie | not in the UK | us? | -/- | it: Dindon noir d'Italie |
-/- (USA) | Dindon de Narragansett | Narragansett | Narragansett | AU | nhdb.nl: "Narragansett turkey" |
-/- (GB) | -/- | Norfolk black | us | -/- | nhdb.nl: "Norfolk Black" |
-/- (B) | Dindon de Ronquières, fauve | not in the UK | us? | -/- | nhdb.nl: "Ronquières turkey" |
-/- (B) | Dindon de Ronquières, à épaulettes jaunes | not in the UK | us? | -/- | a French turkey |
-/- (B) | Dindon de Ronquières, jaspé | not in the UK | us? | -/- | a French turkey |
-/- (B) | Dindon de Ronquières, perdrix | not in the UK | us? | -/- | nhdb.nl: "Ronquières turkey" |
-/- (B) | Dindon de Ronquières, blanc | not in the UK | us? | -/- | nhdb.nl: "Ronquières turkey" |
-/- (GB) | -/- | Royal Palm | Royal Palm | AU | |
-/- (B/F) | Dindon Rouge des Ardennes | not in the UK | us? | -/- |
nhdb.nl "Red Ardenner turkey" |
-/- (F) | Dindon de Sologne, noir | not in the UK | us? | -/- | nhdb.nl: "Sologne turkey" |
-/- (USA) | Dindon de Virginie | White Holland turkey | White Holland turkey | au? | nhdb.nl "White Holland turkey" |
-/- (CZ) | -/- | not in the UK | us? | -/- | cs: Česká krůta, Divocezbarvené bíle lemované |
-/- (CZ) | -/- | not in the UK | us? | -/- | cs: Česká krůta, šedědivocezbarvene bíle lemované |
-/- (E) | -/- | acc.to EE: not in the UK acc. to NHDB: "Buff" |
us? | au? | nl: Engelsekalkoen, buff on nhdb.nl: "Buff turkey" |
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I would like to propose a reorganisation of
Category:Chicken breeds.
Thoughts? JTdale Talk 11:56, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
After spending a good deal of time trying to make sure that all chicken breeds (and nothing else) were in Category:Chicken breeds, I'm not too keen on proposal 1. I think it's essential to have a place where you can go to see what you've got, all of it together, in one place, without going through 50 or 60 subfolders. {{ Infobox poultry breed}} until recently automatically added the page to the category, but I had to disable that to make it usable for other poultry. As for the bantams, I just don't know - both JTdale and PigeonIP make a reasonable case. Justlettersandnumbers ( talk) 01:45, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
@ JTdale: If you are not allowed to sort the Sebright into Category:Chicken breeds and Category:True Bantam, because the ladder is a subcategory of the former (option 1), you may create Category:Chicken breeds by name (option 2):
<tree option 1>
</tree option 1> |
<tree option 2> </tree option 2> |
<tree option 3>
</tree option 3> |
I don't know, if this model exists on en-wp. On Commons it does. Maybe it is a little bit strange to see Chicken breeds by name at the end of an article. Is option 3 worth a try? (I am a fan of flat hierarchy) -- PigeonIP ( talk) 16:06, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
<tree option 4>
</tree option 4> |
<tree option 5>
</tree option 5> |
<tree option 6>
</tree option 6> |
I would like to notify members of the Wikiproject to a major merger discussion at ISA Brown#Merger proposal regarding the articles ISA Brown, Daisy Belle, Dekalb Amberlink, Lohmann Brown, Miss Pepperpot], Freedom Ranger (chicken), Red Shaver, Sex link and Cornish game hen into an ovearching hybrid chickens article. Please comment. JTdale Talk 12:26, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
I would like to request comment from other members of the WikiProject on a proposal for a project guideline on notability of poultry breeds. Please see User:JTdale/Notability (poultry breeds) and then leave your thoughts here and tell me what needs editing, adding, removing etc.
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Please see Talk:Poultry#Capitalization_of_bird_names. JTdale Talk~ 08:09, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
Hi. There is an RfC on Foioe gras which may be of interest to editors on this Project. It relates to whether detailed information on legislation about the production and sale of foie gras should be on the Foie gras page. Your input will be welcomed.__ DrChrissy ( talk) 23:21, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
Please see Wikipedia:Notability (breeds) for a draft of a future proposal for a notability guideline on domestic animal breeds. As your wiki-project is involved in this area, I am dropping off an invite to the discussion. Please visit Wikipedia talk:Notability (breeds). Thanks! JTdale Talk~ 16:16, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
According to @ Justlettersandnumbers: (when referring to geese), "Livestock breed names are invariably capitalized in Wikipedia [and elsewhere]". I agree in part, but in other literature the word "goose" is not capitalized, except in some article titles, even in breed names, unless "goose" is a proper noun. Even in Wikipedia it is not generally the case that the whole name is capitalized. The part of the article name that is the type of animal (e.g. dog, cattle, shark, whale) is not usually capitalized. If no-one has any objection I intend to continue renaming articles whose names are over-capitalized. Jodosma (talk) 20:43, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
Would anyone care to take a look at American Pekin Duck, where there's disagreement over the reliablility of sources and the relevance of some content? Thanks, Justlettersandnumbers ( talk) 08:23, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
Someone at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Birds suggested I would better ask this here.
I took 3 photos last Sunday in Wright Park, Tacoma, Washington, U.S., which I'm pretty certain are Ancona ducks, but I'm not exactly a poultry expert. I realize in particular that it can be hard to visually distinguish an Ancona duck from a Magpie duck, but I'm pretty sure the speckling on these is too irregular to be a Magpie duck. I figured I should just put them here rather than in the Ancona duck article until someone can confirm. - Jmabel | Talk 22:49, 18 May 2017 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Chris_Sherwin biography. Chris was a project member (now deceased). Atsme 📞 📧 01:57, 24 October 2017 (UTC)
I have started a discussion about page naming conventions for domestic animal breeds at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Dogs#Domestic animal breed page names and invite other contributors to join. Cavalryman V31 ( talk) 06:51, 2 December 2017 (UTC).
After two new-ish editors ended up at WP:ANI in the same week for breeds-related disruptive editing (and one topic-ban was issued), I've expanded a bullet-point list of advice for them into an essay: Wikipedia:Writing about breeds.
It provides a crash course in how to write about breeds the Wikipedia way. It's mostly for new editors, but might be of use to some more experienced ones who have not written about breeds before or thought much about how our WP:P&G apply to the topic area. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 07:52, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
Please see Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#RfC on capitalization of the names of standardized breeds.
This is a neutral RfC on a question left unanswered by MOS:LIFE (on purpose in 2012–2014, pending "later discussion"). It is now later, and lack of resolution of the question has held up MOS:ORGANISMS in draft proposal state for 6 years. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 22:04, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
On the section Broiler#World_production_and_consumption, the last line, I could not get the citation to work right. Not sure what I'm missing. Thanks, Marasama ( talk) 22:51, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
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I was wondering what peoples opinions on the state of categorisation of poultry articles is presently. It strikes me as a confused mess. It's probably going to take quite a few merge and move discussions to clean it up, but as you can see by the categories box on this projects main page, the ones that appear at the top level are a bit confused. Anyone got any thoughts before I dig in and begin proposing changes? JTdale Talk 14:36, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
I was thinking a good way to set up the top level categories might be;
Hallo JTdale, I do the same work at de-wp and did not find the best conclusion, yet ;) Please be carefull with my "names". I am not a native english person...
There may be 4to5 groups of "Poultry" or "captive birds" (?):
Last but not least, categories for maintenance, only
I do get confused with Category:Poultry organizations. What is it for? There are fast-food-restaurants and fany assiciations like the American Bantam Association in one Category? What do they have in common? I'd split them into food/products + breeders/commercial + fancyassociations/non-commercial. -- PigeonIP ( talk) 18:01, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
Wikipedia talk:Article titles#Toward a standard for disambiguating titles of articles on domestic animal breeds may be of interest to editors here. — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼ 23:08, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
My English is not up to a "writing articles"-standard --> I won't write them. But I my mention here what comes to mind:
If this Wikipedia talk:Article titles#Toward a standard for disambiguating titles of articles on domestic animal breeds does not get through, I'd like to undo all the x (chicken) --> x chicken and x (pigeon) --> x pigeon moves.
If you are not shure which breed-name to choose, or which translation: please have a look at www.entente-ee.com/deutsch/sparten/gefluegel/dateien/2013/Verzeichnis%20R%20F%2028042013.xls (all breeds, colours and variations that do have a standard within the European Association) I do use it for categorisation on Commons.
-- PigeonIP ( talk) 16:10, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
Some of these are now being discussed at Talk:Teeswater sheep (yeah, don't ask!). I'll try to put the full list there in the next day or two; it's time-consumng work. Justlettersandnumbers ( talk) 09:26, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
have a look at Talk:Strasser pigeon -- PigeonIP ( talk) 21:41, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
The Indian Runner duck has a taxobox. Is there a better infobox? {{ Infobox poultry breed}} ? -- PigeonIP ( talk) 16:00, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
I was wondering what the best course of action on this is. Presently we have the articles Domesticated turkey, Domesticated guineafowl, Domestic geese and Domestic Duck. Wouldn't a standardisation on which is the proper version to use be a good idea? I'm not particular with MoS procedures, so if people would like to comment that'd be great. JTdale Talk 06:20, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
see Talk:Cornish chicken#Merge with Cornish game hen
Maybe it is better to write two articles about the Indian Game and the (american) Cornish (and Jubilee?). The FAO knows Indian Game AND Cornish in the UK --> DAD-IS: Cornish Game (Large)/United Kingdom Cornish Game (miniature)/United Kingdom Indian Game and in that list are a lot of other Cornish-breeds...
or ignore that person and delete the "merge"-template in both articles. -- PigeonIP ( talk) 10:30, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
Maybe you like to translate it, or use it in an article -- PigeonIP ( talk) 10:57, 2 August 2014 (UTC) another one -- PigeonIP ( talk) 11:00, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
Any thoughts about this? As far as I can see, it's someone's registered brand name for both some rather expensive brown eggs and some rather expensive brown hens. There's been some successful marketing, but I don't see why we need to be part of that. I can't see any evidence that it should be considered a chicken breed. Thoughts? Justlettersandnumbers ( talk) 17:19, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
Is someone fit and willing to sort them out?
There is a mix of the breeds " Jersey Buff" ( fao Jersey Buff/US) and " Buff"( fao Buff/US) that are handled as two separate breeds in the US. Regarding the FAO a turkey called "Buff" is also an English indigenous breed. [4] The Irish [5] and Australian [6] do know a "Buff" (UK or US type, or an own Australian one?) as well. There is a also a buff variation of the Deutsche Pute [7] and the Czech Turkey, but that may go too far. -- PigeonIP ( talk) 14:06, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
"Male and female: Plumage: a deep cinnamon brown, free from cream. Primaries and secondarieS: white, free of buff markings. Beak: Light horn. Eyes: iris dark hazel, pupil blue-black. Legs and feet: pink and flesh." JTdale Talk 05:39, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
// sorry, if I overdo here -- PigeonIP ( talk) 08:48, 23 September 2014 (UTC) //
de | fr | uk | us | au | others |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
-/- (USA) | Dindon bleu d'Amérique |
Slate turkey acc. to EE: not in the UK |
Slate turkey | AU | nhdb.nl ("American slate turkey") |
-/-(USA) | Dindon bronzé d'Amérique | not in the UK | Bronze turkey | AU | nhdl.nl: "American Bronze turkey"; shall be the Standard Bronze in the UK [10] |
-/-(USA) | Dindon noir d'Amérique | not in the UK | Black turkey | AU | nhdl.nl: "Black turkey" |
-/-(USA) | Dindon de Beltsville, blanc | Beltsville Small White | Beltsville Small White | au? | nhdb.nl: "Beltsville small white turkey" |
-/- (F) | Dindon du Bourbonnais, noir | not in the UK | us ? | -/- | a black turkey |
-/- (GB) | -/- | Cambridge bronze | us? | au? | |
Deutsche Pute, Blau | Dindon bleu allemand (B), Dindon Bleu de Suède (FR) |
Blue (Lavender) (?) | us? | AU | nhdb.nl: "Blue turkey" |
Deutsche Pute, Bourbon | Dindon Bourbon rouge | Bourbon Red | Bourbon Red | AU | nhdb.nl (us) |
Deutsche Pute, bronzefarbig | Dindon bronzé allemand | bronze | us? | au? | nhdb.nl: "German bronze turkey" |
Deutsche Pute, Cröllwitzer | Cröllwitzer | Cröllwitzer | us? | -/- | nhdb.nl: "Cröllwitzer turkey" |
Deutsche Pute, gelb | Dindon jaune allemand | buff | us? | au? | nhdb.nl "Yellow German turkey" |
Deutsche Pute, kupfer | -/- | bronce | us? | -/- | nhdb.nl: "Copper turkey" |
Deutsche Pute, Narragansettfarbig | -/- | not in the UK | us? | -/- | |
Deutsche Pute, rot | -/- | not in the UK | us? | -/- | |
Deutsche Pute, rotflügel | Dindon à ailes rouges allemand | not in the UK | us? | -/- | nhdb.nl: "Redwing turkey" |
Deutsche Pute, schwarz | Dindon noir allemand | not in the UK | us? | au? | |
Deutsche Pute, schwarzflügel | Dindon à ailes noires allemand | Black winged bronze | us? | -/- | nhdb.nl: "Blackwing turkey" |
Deutsche Pute, weiß | Dindon blanc allemand | British white | us? | au? | |
-/- (F) | Dindon, porcelaine | not in the UK | us? | -/- | a French turkey |
-/- (F) | Dindon du Gers, nior | not in the UK | us? | -/- | a black French turkey |
-/- (I) | Dindon châtain d'Italie | not in the UK | us? | -/- | it: Tacchino castano d'Italia |
-/- (I) | Dindon noir d'Italie | not in the UK | us? | -/- | it: Dindon noir d'Italie |
-/- (USA) | Dindon de Narragansett | Narragansett | Narragansett | AU | nhdb.nl: "Narragansett turkey" |
-/- (GB) | -/- | Norfolk black | us | -/- | nhdb.nl: "Norfolk Black" |
-/- (B) | Dindon de Ronquières, fauve | not in the UK | us? | -/- | nhdb.nl: "Ronquières turkey" |
-/- (B) | Dindon de Ronquières, à épaulettes jaunes | not in the UK | us? | -/- | a French turkey |
-/- (B) | Dindon de Ronquières, jaspé | not in the UK | us? | -/- | a French turkey |
-/- (B) | Dindon de Ronquières, perdrix | not in the UK | us? | -/- | nhdb.nl: "Ronquières turkey" |
-/- (B) | Dindon de Ronquières, blanc | not in the UK | us? | -/- | nhdb.nl: "Ronquières turkey" |
-/- (GB) | -/- | Royal Palm | Royal Palm | AU | |
-/- (B/F) | Dindon Rouge des Ardennes | not in the UK | us? | -/- |
nhdb.nl "Red Ardenner turkey" |
-/- (F) | Dindon de Sologne, noir | not in the UK | us? | -/- | nhdb.nl: "Sologne turkey" |
-/- (USA) | Dindon de Virginie | White Holland turkey | White Holland turkey | au? | nhdb.nl "White Holland turkey" |
-/- (CZ) | -/- | not in the UK | us? | -/- | cs: Česká krůta, Divocezbarvené bíle lemované |
-/- (CZ) | -/- | not in the UK | us? | -/- | cs: Česká krůta, šedědivocezbarvene bíle lemované |
-/- (E) | -/- | acc.to EE: not in the UK acc. to NHDB: "Buff" |
us? | au? | nl: Engelsekalkoen, buff on nhdb.nl: "Buff turkey" |
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PigeonIP (
talk) 15:26, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
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I would like to propose a reorganisation of
Category:Chicken breeds.
Thoughts? JTdale Talk 11:56, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
After spending a good deal of time trying to make sure that all chicken breeds (and nothing else) were in Category:Chicken breeds, I'm not too keen on proposal 1. I think it's essential to have a place where you can go to see what you've got, all of it together, in one place, without going through 50 or 60 subfolders. {{ Infobox poultry breed}} until recently automatically added the page to the category, but I had to disable that to make it usable for other poultry. As for the bantams, I just don't know - both JTdale and PigeonIP make a reasonable case. Justlettersandnumbers ( talk) 01:45, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
@ JTdale: If you are not allowed to sort the Sebright into Category:Chicken breeds and Category:True Bantam, because the ladder is a subcategory of the former (option 1), you may create Category:Chicken breeds by name (option 2):
<tree option 1>
</tree option 1> |
<tree option 2> </tree option 2> |
<tree option 3>
</tree option 3> |
I don't know, if this model exists on en-wp. On Commons it does. Maybe it is a little bit strange to see Chicken breeds by name at the end of an article. Is option 3 worth a try? (I am a fan of flat hierarchy) -- PigeonIP ( talk) 16:06, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
<tree option 4>
</tree option 4> |
<tree option 5>
</tree option 5> |
<tree option 6>
</tree option 6> |
I would like to notify members of the Wikiproject to a major merger discussion at ISA Brown#Merger proposal regarding the articles ISA Brown, Daisy Belle, Dekalb Amberlink, Lohmann Brown, Miss Pepperpot], Freedom Ranger (chicken), Red Shaver, Sex link and Cornish game hen into an ovearching hybrid chickens article. Please comment. JTdale Talk 12:26, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
I would like to request comment from other members of the WikiProject on a proposal for a project guideline on notability of poultry breeds. Please see User:JTdale/Notability (poultry breeds) and then leave your thoughts here and tell me what needs editing, adding, removing etc.
JTdale Talk 18:48, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
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Harej ( talk) 16:56, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
Please see Talk:Poultry#Capitalization_of_bird_names. JTdale Talk~ 08:09, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
Hi. There is an RfC on Foioe gras which may be of interest to editors on this Project. It relates to whether detailed information on legislation about the production and sale of foie gras should be on the Foie gras page. Your input will be welcomed.__ DrChrissy ( talk) 23:21, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
Please see Wikipedia:Notability (breeds) for a draft of a future proposal for a notability guideline on domestic animal breeds. As your wiki-project is involved in this area, I am dropping off an invite to the discussion. Please visit Wikipedia talk:Notability (breeds). Thanks! JTdale Talk~ 16:16, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
According to @ Justlettersandnumbers: (when referring to geese), "Livestock breed names are invariably capitalized in Wikipedia [and elsewhere]". I agree in part, but in other literature the word "goose" is not capitalized, except in some article titles, even in breed names, unless "goose" is a proper noun. Even in Wikipedia it is not generally the case that the whole name is capitalized. The part of the article name that is the type of animal (e.g. dog, cattle, shark, whale) is not usually capitalized. If no-one has any objection I intend to continue renaming articles whose names are over-capitalized. Jodosma (talk) 20:43, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
Would anyone care to take a look at American Pekin Duck, where there's disagreement over the reliablility of sources and the relevance of some content? Thanks, Justlettersandnumbers ( talk) 08:23, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
Someone at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Birds suggested I would better ask this here.
I took 3 photos last Sunday in Wright Park, Tacoma, Washington, U.S., which I'm pretty certain are Ancona ducks, but I'm not exactly a poultry expert. I realize in particular that it can be hard to visually distinguish an Ancona duck from a Magpie duck, but I'm pretty sure the speckling on these is too irregular to be a Magpie duck. I figured I should just put them here rather than in the Ancona duck article until someone can confirm. - Jmabel | Talk 22:49, 18 May 2017 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Chris_Sherwin biography. Chris was a project member (now deceased). Atsme 📞 📧 01:57, 24 October 2017 (UTC)
I have started a discussion about page naming conventions for domestic animal breeds at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Dogs#Domestic animal breed page names and invite other contributors to join. Cavalryman V31 ( talk) 06:51, 2 December 2017 (UTC).
After two new-ish editors ended up at WP:ANI in the same week for breeds-related disruptive editing (and one topic-ban was issued), I've expanded a bullet-point list of advice for them into an essay: Wikipedia:Writing about breeds.
It provides a crash course in how to write about breeds the Wikipedia way. It's mostly for new editors, but might be of use to some more experienced ones who have not written about breeds before or thought much about how our WP:P&G apply to the topic area. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 07:52, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
Please see Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#RfC on capitalization of the names of standardized breeds.
This is a neutral RfC on a question left unanswered by MOS:LIFE (on purpose in 2012–2014, pending "later discussion"). It is now later, and lack of resolution of the question has held up MOS:ORGANISMS in draft proposal state for 6 years. — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼 22:04, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
On the section Broiler#World_production_and_consumption, the last line, I could not get the citation to work right. Not sure what I'm missing. Thanks, Marasama ( talk) 22:51, 15 December 2018 (UTC)
That's odd, it worked for me. Must've been a redirect where the direct failed later? Anyhow, here's where I found it.
Thanks, Marasama ( talk) 03:51, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
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Finally, the WikiProject I have made active. 🐔 Chic dat Chicken Database 15:10, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
Discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Birds#Make WikiProject Poultry a task force. -- awkwafaba ( 📥) 14:43, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
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