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Well, since this is a WikiProject, I thought a collaboration page would be useful in expanding pages and bringing articles to featured status. Any thoughts? Australian Raven 00:24, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
IMHO, a species with such a limited range as Bald Eagle is less suitable for a collaboration than cosmopolitan birds such as the Osprey or Peregrine Falcon. Also sources for northern hemisphere species are much more readily available. What about southern hemisphere species? I have some good resources, but I'm not likely to write/improve articles for birds I've not seen without some prompting. jimfbleak 09:06, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
Just a quick question here... since it seems we have several articles nominated for collaboration, and coding for voting, when/how would we agree on a collaboration and start? By the way, thanks for starting it! Australian Raven 21:45, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
PS: Need to announce a deadline to select a bird. I'd give it 7 dayscheers, Casliber | talk | contribs 22:56, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
Wait wait wait... how do I vote? Where do I add the code? Or do I just change the title? Australian Raven 00:22, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
I have created a page for the White-browed Sparrow-weaver. Please edit - it has most of the info it needs, but there are a few minor details missing. -- Birdman1 talk/ contribs 03:16, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
This user on Flickr has some stunning free to use images of Asian birds. I've added a few to the Commons and then linked some articles to here, quite a few are for species we don't have articles on yet. Enjoy, but be warned, not every one of them has a free licence, so check carefully (to check look in the bottom right hand corner.) Sabine's Sunbird talk 04:28, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
There is a heated discussion at Category_talk:Biota_by_country regarding the matter to recategorize the species. Please feel free to voice out your opinion. :) Luffy487 08:08, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
I've added a category, Members of WikiProject Birds, to the user box, so anyone using it on their user page is automatically added to the category. Andy Mabbett 12:13, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
Currently Raven is ahead by a whisker (or is that a bill?) if you hate crows go vote! Sabine's Sunbird talk 19:58, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
There is a long list of requested articles for birds, and the article request page for this project is a red link. Should I create a page for it? -- Hey jude, don't let me down 00:45, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
Hi all, there has been quite a bit of variety over what headings and subheadings are used in various biology article over wikipedia and I have tried streamlining those often while dividing up large chunks of text.
How do people feel about (on a bird species page):
(lead)
(I have removed "Physical" from some sections called Physical Description as it is redundant.) (this includes call at the end of the section)
(conservation can be included as a subsection here)
(or nesting? or reproduction?)
Taxonomy and Classification can be separate section or under description somewhere
cheers, Casliber | talk | contribs 02:58, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
Casliber, I agree with you on the desirability of standardising the format of species (and other levels of taxa). I have fiddled with the layout of Australian Painted Snipe along the lines you suggest, but more could be done. With little-known species the headings may seem a bit clunky with not a lot of descriptive text, but it would improve the articles with more material. With something like 10,000 species of bird in the world, and each maybe eventually having a separate article, it should make it a lot easier to move from one to another and to make quick comparisons. Maias 04:54, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
Well, it is good idea to standardize the format. However, research on different species of birds are done differently. Some species may have more information on its breeding while some don't. And some species may have more information availablee on its habitats while some don't. I am sure you don't wish to see 2 sentences of words just under one heading. Luffy487 05:14, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
I was wondering if anyone here knows which of the four species does this Kookaburra belongs to? Just curious. Luffy487 10:02, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
Anyone fancy starting an article on what we in the UK know as county recorders, (for all taxa, not just birds)? Andy Mabbett 12:06, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
Take at look at this: Tiny rare owl spotted in Peru reserve. Abstracted from the article: The owl is so distinct that it has been named in its own genus, "Xenoglaux", meaning "strange owl", due to the long wispy feathers around its reddish-orange eyes. Luffy487 10:30, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
A good one to get your teeth stuck into. Lots of laundry lists to be cleaned out and rationalised. Also should be possible to find good online information as it is a North American species, check out Wikipedia:WikiProject Birds#Online resources for access to free journals to help. I'll post a to do list/plan on the article's talk page later. Sabine's Sunbird talk 21:37, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
I've sub-divided Wikipedia:WikiProject Birds/Article requests. Andy Mabbett 21:01, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
I've been using the 'attention' needed tag in a few template boxes:
I'd always called all these 'Conures' yet someone has listed them all as parakeets. There is a tendency for common names to become more exacting as the years go on yet this has gone the other way. I have Parrots of the World by Forshaw which called them Conures....
Anyone heard anything about this? cheers, Casliber | talk | contribs 04:05, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
hmmm. cheers, Casliber | talk | contribs 03:05, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
Your project needs a FA section for bird articles which have become featured. With the inclusion of the soon to be featured Archaeopteryx (Well hopefully...), and any others you guys have, I'd say it would be wise to have one & to keep the team morale up with the addition of their achievements. It works at Wikiproject dinosaurs, & it never hurts to be proud. I think it's a good idea, thoguhts? Spawn Man 00:12, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
This page is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Well, since this is a WikiProject, I thought a collaboration page would be useful in expanding pages and bringing articles to featured status. Any thoughts? Australian Raven 00:24, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
IMHO, a species with such a limited range as Bald Eagle is less suitable for a collaboration than cosmopolitan birds such as the Osprey or Peregrine Falcon. Also sources for northern hemisphere species are much more readily available. What about southern hemisphere species? I have some good resources, but I'm not likely to write/improve articles for birds I've not seen without some prompting. jimfbleak 09:06, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
Just a quick question here... since it seems we have several articles nominated for collaboration, and coding for voting, when/how would we agree on a collaboration and start? By the way, thanks for starting it! Australian Raven 21:45, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
PS: Need to announce a deadline to select a bird. I'd give it 7 dayscheers, Casliber | talk | contribs 22:56, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
Wait wait wait... how do I vote? Where do I add the code? Or do I just change the title? Australian Raven 00:22, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
I have created a page for the White-browed Sparrow-weaver. Please edit - it has most of the info it needs, but there are a few minor details missing. -- Birdman1 talk/ contribs 03:16, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
This user on Flickr has some stunning free to use images of Asian birds. I've added a few to the Commons and then linked some articles to here, quite a few are for species we don't have articles on yet. Enjoy, but be warned, not every one of them has a free licence, so check carefully (to check look in the bottom right hand corner.) Sabine's Sunbird talk 04:28, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
There is a heated discussion at Category_talk:Biota_by_country regarding the matter to recategorize the species. Please feel free to voice out your opinion. :) Luffy487 08:08, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
I've added a category, Members of WikiProject Birds, to the user box, so anyone using it on their user page is automatically added to the category. Andy Mabbett 12:13, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
Currently Raven is ahead by a whisker (or is that a bill?) if you hate crows go vote! Sabine's Sunbird talk 19:58, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
There is a long list of requested articles for birds, and the article request page for this project is a red link. Should I create a page for it? -- Hey jude, don't let me down 00:45, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
Hi all, there has been quite a bit of variety over what headings and subheadings are used in various biology article over wikipedia and I have tried streamlining those often while dividing up large chunks of text.
How do people feel about (on a bird species page):
(lead)
(I have removed "Physical" from some sections called Physical Description as it is redundant.) (this includes call at the end of the section)
(conservation can be included as a subsection here)
(or nesting? or reproduction?)
Taxonomy and Classification can be separate section or under description somewhere
cheers, Casliber | talk | contribs 02:58, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
Casliber, I agree with you on the desirability of standardising the format of species (and other levels of taxa). I have fiddled with the layout of Australian Painted Snipe along the lines you suggest, but more could be done. With little-known species the headings may seem a bit clunky with not a lot of descriptive text, but it would improve the articles with more material. With something like 10,000 species of bird in the world, and each maybe eventually having a separate article, it should make it a lot easier to move from one to another and to make quick comparisons. Maias 04:54, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
Well, it is good idea to standardize the format. However, research on different species of birds are done differently. Some species may have more information on its breeding while some don't. And some species may have more information availablee on its habitats while some don't. I am sure you don't wish to see 2 sentences of words just under one heading. Luffy487 05:14, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
I was wondering if anyone here knows which of the four species does this Kookaburra belongs to? Just curious. Luffy487 10:02, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
Anyone fancy starting an article on what we in the UK know as county recorders, (for all taxa, not just birds)? Andy Mabbett 12:06, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
Take at look at this: Tiny rare owl spotted in Peru reserve. Abstracted from the article: The owl is so distinct that it has been named in its own genus, "Xenoglaux", meaning "strange owl", due to the long wispy feathers around its reddish-orange eyes. Luffy487 10:30, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
A good one to get your teeth stuck into. Lots of laundry lists to be cleaned out and rationalised. Also should be possible to find good online information as it is a North American species, check out Wikipedia:WikiProject Birds#Online resources for access to free journals to help. I'll post a to do list/plan on the article's talk page later. Sabine's Sunbird talk 21:37, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
I've sub-divided Wikipedia:WikiProject Birds/Article requests. Andy Mabbett 21:01, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
I've been using the 'attention' needed tag in a few template boxes:
I'd always called all these 'Conures' yet someone has listed them all as parakeets. There is a tendency for common names to become more exacting as the years go on yet this has gone the other way. I have Parrots of the World by Forshaw which called them Conures....
Anyone heard anything about this? cheers, Casliber | talk | contribs 04:05, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
hmmm. cheers, Casliber | talk | contribs 03:05, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
Your project needs a FA section for bird articles which have become featured. With the inclusion of the soon to be featured Archaeopteryx (Well hopefully...), and any others you guys have, I'd say it would be wise to have one & to keep the team morale up with the addition of their achievements. It works at Wikiproject dinosaurs, & it never hurts to be proud. I think it's a good idea, thoguhts? Spawn Man 00:12, 26 March 2007 (UTC)