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I just went through an expansion of J. R. Richard, and I've brought it from 5KB in length to nearly 54KB in length. This should pass GA fairly quickly, and after that I'm going for FA. Can I get any other Wikipedians to review the article, copyedit and make corrections? Thanks, Nishkid64 ( talk) 01:35, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
I'm wondering if we could discuss the "Selected Statistics" in the infoboxes. I think it is a good idea to have some there, but I'm not sure that great standardization is an improvement. We've all agreed, I'm sure that pitchers and non-pitchers don't get the same statistics listed there. I'm just wondering if we could tailor the selected statistics to be the most suitable three or so statistics for that player. This situation comes up more for the greats than for the run of the mill players. Some editors have suggested that for all batters the three statistics should be batting average, RBIs, and HRs. But I think that for a player like Rickey Henderson, having stolen bases is much more important than RBIs. (I would even argue that walks and runs scored would be more important than batting average for him). I also do not believe that for a closer such as Trevor Hoffman or Mariano Rivera wins and losses are the most important quick stat, and that putting W-L record above saves, ERA, and strikeouts is an odd choice. I am mostly arguing against standardization which goes against displaying prominently whatever it is that players are best known for. -- Myke Cuthbert (talk) 04:14, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
Two issues: (1) User:Kinston eagle has been undoing all the edits I made to the infoboxes in the Indians' player articles. I've left a message on this user's talk page asking him/her to stop. But now if I revert the edits, I'll be in violation of WP:3RR, right? I'd prefer to avoid breaking the rules (and the consequent potential block). What is supposed to be done in a situation like this?
(2) User:Soxrock is updating selected players' statistics with current numbers. Isn't this kind of thing against guidelines (something about WP not being a news source)? It seems to me to be a bad idea to make these updates unless we're going to do so for each and every player's stats on a somewhat regular basis. Otherwise, we end up with an uneven mixture (mess?) of data on the player pages. Furthermore, this user doesn't bother to change the "as of" date, so, in reality, what they're doing is posting inaccurate information. How is this type of thing supposed to be handled here?
Thanks in advance for any and all feedback. -- Sanfranman59 03:28, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
Hey guys, this guy Soxrock is going around and changing all the years from 2003 in baseball|2003, how it is listed on all players to 2003 in MLB|2003, and he is only doing it on half of the entries for a certain player, so half are the right way and half is the way he wants it, I told him repeatedly to stop, as it will create more work to go back and revert all his edits back to the original way, he will have none of it, after my reverts back to the original, he went and reverted back to his way, saying that he doesn't care. We need to do something with this guy, all this guy is doing is causing problems. MetsFan153 13:48, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
I propose for all Major League Baseball players boxes that years that there is a single Major League Baseball season (i.e. 2000 MLB season) that it replace what is currently in the links (i.e. 2000 in baseball would be replaced). It's a good idea in my mind. What about yours? Thanks Soxrock 13:55, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
I agree, it is better with the MLB season instead of in baseball-- Yankees10 14:07, 25 May 2007 (UTC)Yankees10
After looking I have changed my mind considering in baseball has way more information than the MLB season -- Yankees10 14:09, 25 May 2007 (UTC)Yakees10
Ok, I've got a good idea to try to change your minds. I plan to make the basic groundworks for many un-made pages (i.e. 1968 or any other year). What would you say if I made those pages and provided a good amount of information? please say yes if I do. Soxrock 14:19, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
As discussed above, I have posted the draft copy of the proposed naming convention for baseball player articles here. Please feel free to discuss/propose changes at the talk page for the draft copy. I will post a notice at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions. Thanks, Caknuck 04:07, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
In the absence of Template:Mlbhof, I have been using Template:Mlbretired on former players who are now in the Baseball Hall of Fame. Does anyone disagree with this strategy? If so, what alternative do you suggest? // Tecmobowl 04:02, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
I have been trying to familiarize my self with the various naming conventions of wiki. Based on everything I have read, I am not sure if Shoeless Joe Jackson is in fact, named appropriately. I am sure that this will be a hot issue, but if we focus on the information and not on personal opinion, I think we can have a solid discussion. I am having a difficult time locating articles for athletes who had a supplemental nickname (as opposed to a nickname that "replaced" their common name - ie... Hank Aaron and Babe Ruth. It would seem that Joe Jackson (baseball player) would be more appropriate? Any thoughts? // Tecmobowl 18:43, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
I recently created the USA Today All-USA high school baseball team article. I think it can be pretty useful if done right. However, before I get to far into it, does anyone have any suggestion for how it is formated and what information is relayed? I could also use some help in figuring out which players (beyond the obvious ones like Joe Mauer), are really noteworthy and deserve their own articles. // Tecmobowl 18:22, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
The template has been proposed for deletion here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_deletion#Template:MLB_HoF
Baseball Project members might like to voice an opinion. Modernist 17:05, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
there has been a lot of discussion and arguement about what colors should be in Reggie Jacksons and Jeff Nelson (baseball player)s infoboxes, and in some peoples opinions the colors should be neutral in all retired players infoboxes like in retired football players infoboxes, write your opinion about what we should do, neutral or not?-- Yankees10 01:31, 25 June 2007 (UTC)Yankees10
Consistency is key. Not all players have an obvious choice for colors, especially in these days of free agency. If some players have colors that cannot be agreed upon, no retired players should have them. They are not under contract with an MLB team, they don't need colors. Chris Nelson 01:50, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
But what color would be the neutral color, it really doesnt look good when there is no color with the black words, would it be something like the LightBlueSteel (or whatever it is) like the NFL infobox, or something different-- Yankees10 01:53, 25 June 2007 (UTC)Yankees10
Hot pink and forest green? Chris Nelson 04:46, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
I think it should be a cool sweet gray — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.82.16.153 ( talk • contribs)
why cant we just use the light blue steel the NFL infoboxes have-- Yankees10 20:25, 25 June 2007 (UTC)Yankees10
Perhaps we should create a convention for this. My suggestion, although a bit of the cuff so excuse the poor wording, would be this:
Thoughts? // Tecmobowl 21:36, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
I think we should watch a freekin awesome comedy, instead of argueing -- — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.82.16.153 ( talk • contribs)
Hopefully, the final tweak has been made to the proposed naming conventions for baseball players. The discussion on the guidelines can be viewed here and here. Please review the proposal here and add any comments/suggestions/feedback on the talk page. If there are no major issues, we'll put this thing to a straw poll in a few days, and if successful will then submit for formal inclusion on WP:NC. Thanks, Caknuck 04:33, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
I think this needs to be dug up and given new life. What do you think? After I sign off today, I will not be back on for at least a day or so. If you agree and have the time to get the article back into play, I will definitely join in when i return. // Tecmobowl 00:25, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
Hello, everyone! I’m new to this particular page, though I’m a passionate baseball fan (specifically, I’m a die-hard Yankee fan — say what you want, but I’ve pretty much lived my entire life in and around NYC) and a constantly-contributing Wikipedian. Anyway, I thought this would be a good place to start a discussion about the template that I’ve linked to in the title of this section, Template:Bbhof. It’s a very simple external link template — with an input of the player’s HOF ID, the template creates an external link to his HOF bio page. It can be found on pretty much every single HOF member’s Wikipedia page (I haven’t actually checked all 280 members’ pages), but there’s a serious issue with it. The external link created by the template wasn’t even correct; it just redirected to the head page of the HOF’s “The Hall of Famers” section. I’ve now changed the template syntax so that it now creates a correctly-formed external link, but that doesn’t completely do the job. The HOF’s website uses six-digit numbers, starting with “110001” for Hank Aaron and ending with “124721” for Robin Yount, as member IDs. I don’t know if they recently revamped their ID system, but unfortunately, most of the Wikipedia pages that feature this template for HOF members use the template input of the member’s name, instead of their six-digit HOF ID number. (For example, before I corrected it, the template syntax on Lou Gehrig’s Wikipedia entry looked like this:
{{bbhof|id=gehrig_lou}}
I went ahead and fixed it (I happened to be making numerous other edits to the article), and it now looks like this, which is how it has to look if the template and external link are to work properly (as you can see, Gehrig’s HOF ID is 114860):
{{bbhof|id=114680}}
Clearly, fixing the template syntax was only half the job, and I presume that the sharp-minded among you can now see the momentous task that lies before us. It seems that the only way to correct the Wikipedia articles of all HOF members is to go to the HOF website, find their respective ID numbers, and then insert them into the Bbhof templates that are already in use on their Wikipedia articles. Obviously, doing this manually would take quite a long time, so I’m wondering — and this is a question for those of you who know about Wikipedia’s inner workings, specifically bots — is there any way we can automate this task? Otherwise, I’ll be stuck doing this individually, which could take months. Of course, if doing this by hand is the only way to go about it, I hope I’ll have some help. Any takers? Respond here; I’m watching this page.
P.S. And of course, to my fellow Americans: Happy Independence Day! — BrOnXbOmBr21 • talk • contribs • 18:37, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
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I have been working on the page for the Carolina League Kinston Indians for a little while now. One area that was started before I got there, and is present on many other minor league pages, is a section which consists of a list of noted alumni. I also added a list for alumni of Kinston's earlier teams. As you can see, the lists just keep growing as I find more and more Kinston players who have wikipedia pages. There are now some 140 names on the two lists. What is your opinion of an all-time roster page for a minor league team similar to Los Angeles Dodgers all-time roster or maybe a list page like List of Chicago White Sox people that would include all notable former players, coaches and managers. I was going to be bold and go ahead and create it, but I figured I should see what the feelings of the people here were. I don't want to create it and then have it soon thereafter put up as an afd as being non-notable. A distinct possibility since there seems to be a general distaste for anything concerning the minor leagues on wikipedia. Thoughts? Kinston eagle 14:27, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the input. I think I'm going to do this, but I'm going to wait a couple days to see if anyone has a strong objection. Kinston eagle 20:27, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
I am bringing this situation up because of a dispute at Talk:Reggie Jackson. The dispute is about whether Jackson's infobox template colors should be the colors of the New York Yankees. The page has been fully protected because of this. The reason I'm leaving this comment is because I feel that with everybody giving their opinions about what colors they think the infobox should be, I feel that this violates Wikipedia:Neutral point of view, which states as follows:
All Wikipedia articles and other encyclopedic content must be written from a neutral point of view (NPOV), representing fairly and without bias all significant views (that have been published by reliable sources).
I feel that with everybody giving their own opinions, this is leading to everybody becoming biased towards either direction of the argument. It is because of this that I highly suggest removing all colors from the templates of Retired MLB players, as not all of them, such as for Reggie Jackson, can we determine one way or another. I think that removing the colors from the templates altogether would prevent any disputes about which team should be represented.
This is an encyclopedia. We are encyclopedians. It isn't up to us to determine which team a player should represent. Removing all colors from the templates for retired MLB players is the only sure way to prevent disputes and WP:NPOV. For example, retired NHL players (see Luc Robitaille for an example)... actually, all NHL players don't have any colors in their templates. The MLB templates should do the same. Ksy92003 (talk) 05:00, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
I believe the best nPOV way is to keep infobox colors only on current players, managers, and hall of famers depicting the team represented in the hall. I hate thinking of Wade Boggs in Red Sox colors, but it's only fair - he's going down in history as a Red Sox player. Another exception would be players who spent their careers with one team. Mghabmw 19:23, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
What about coaches that gained notoriety playing for other teams more than as being coaches?
I think they should get the color of the team they coach or manage for.
Mghabmw
23:38, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
Regarding, Reggie Jackson, I don't think it is any question it should be A's colors:
Reggie's career stats:
A's: 1,346 games, 756 runs, 1,228 hits, 269 HR, 776 RBI, 145 SB
Angels: 687 games, 331 runs, 557 hits, 123 HR, 374 RBI, 14 SB
Yankees: 653 games, 380 runs, 661 hits, 144 HR, 461 RBI, 41 SB
Orioles: 134 games, 84 runs, 138 hits, 27 HR, 91 RBI, 28 SB
World Series titles:
A's: 1972, 1973, 1974
Yankees: 1977, 1978
MVP Awards:
A's: 1973 Yankees: none
Top 5 MVP Finishes:
A's: 1969, 1973, 1974, 1975
Yankees: 1980
All-Star Appearances:
A's: 6
Yankees: 4
Angels: 1
Single-Season Career Highs:
AVG: .300 (1980 Yankees)
HR: 47 (1969 A's)
RBI: 118 (1969 A's)
SB: 17 (1970 A's)
OPS: 1.018 (1969 A's)
So he played more years for the A's, he won more championships for the A's, he put up greater career stats with the A's, he had his best statistical seasons with the A's, he made more All-Star teams with the A's, he won his only MVP Award with the A's. I know he has the whole "Mr. October" thing with the Yankees, but I really don't think that those 2 weeks in October overshadow an entire career where he accomplished his greatest overall success in Oakland. If he never won any championships in Oakland, then I could understand - but he won even more championships in Oakland than he did in New York and I don't think anyone would argue that the 1977-78 Yankees were better teams than the 1972-74 A's dynasty.
As for the Hall of Fame cap, let's set the record straight. The Hall of Fame has ALWAYS maintained the ultimate decision on the cap, but they never began enforcing it until the controversy with Tampa trying to buy a D-Rays cap on Wade Boggs' plaque. After that, the Hall changed their stance and began actively enforcing their power. There is a link in the article stating that Reggie was intending to wear an A's cap on his plaque but was upset at A's management when he was fired as a coach after the 1991 season. Sensing the opportunity, George Steinbrenner then brought Reggie back into the Yankees fold and Reggie subsequently went with the NY on his cap (it has also been revealed that Hall of Famers benefit monetarily with autographs and appearances when they are recognized with the Yankees). Anyway, had the Hall actively enforced their power back then, I honestly believe they would have overruled Reggie and put an A's cap on his plaque as they were just most representative of his total career. If you take away his 5 years in New York, he probably still makes the Hall based on the rest of his career. You can not say the same if you take his A's stats out of his career totals.
Another example of this would be looking at the more recent case involving Gary Carter, who was similar to Reggie in that he is probably best remembered for his 5-year stint in New York over a greater amount of time spent elsewhere (in this case, Montreal). However, when Carter elected to wear a Mets cap on his plaque, he was overruled and given an Expos cap based on his greater overall service time and aggregate statistics. In fact, I would say that Carter's case for notoriety with the Mets over the Expos is just as strong, if not stronger than Reggie's notoriety with the Yanks over the A's when you consider that Reggie won 3 titles for a dynasty in Oakland while Carter mainly toiled for mediocre Expos teams before joining the Mets.
As a result, when looking at the aggregate compilation of Reggie's 20-year career, I think that while he is remembered well as "Mr. October" with the Yankees, he played more October games with the A's, and that is where he also achieved his greatest overall success.
You may want to come by and comment at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Chris Young (pitcher).-- TonyTheTiger ( t/ c/ bio/ tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 23:42, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
I also have a nice baseball FAC at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Bob Meusel. Thanks Jaranda wat's sup 01:01, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
In baseball, there are certain qualifying numbers that are significant. There are the number of at bats or innings one needs to accumulate to qualify for Rookie of the Year. There is another set of numbers (I believe 162 innings and 510 plate appearances) needed to qualify for annual statistical leadership. What is the number of career games, at bats, plate appearances, innings necessary to qualify for career statistical leadership? I am trying to clean up the WP:LEAD at Hector Lopez and need to correctly state the fact.-- TonyTheTiger ( t/ c/ bio/ tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 02:40, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
Comment I think you are misinterpretting my question. Suppose, a player wants to qualify for the career batting average, slugging percentage, on base percentage, home runs per at bat leadership. How many career plate appearances, at bats, or games does one need? Similarly, if one wants to qualify for the career Earne run average leadership, how many career innings or games does one need?-- TonyTheTiger ( t/ c/ bio/ tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 07:11, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
P.S. I know there is a number of seasons required to qualify for a pension, which is also a significant number in determining who had a career and who played in the majors. I guess that number is also relevant here.-- TonyTheTiger ( t/ c/ bio/ tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 07:13, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
Hey I would like to join this project. How can I??? Thanks cheesepuffsaretasty!!! ( talk) 17:39, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
User:StormXor and I worked together to come up with a pretty good colorization scheme in the presence of heavy editorial activity in the weeks immediately after 756 at
Barry Bonds. Now, there is a move afoot to uncolorize Bonds. Opinions are needed at
Talk:Barry_Bonds#stats_section_use_of_color. We are debating the use of colors in stats tables with respect to
WP:WAI section 4 and the current
Barry Bonds page versus the
former color scheme. The debate will probably shape color scheme usage throughout baseball bio article stat sections so be thoughtful. You may want to look at other pages that have colorized stat sections such as
Roger Clemens,
Hector Lopez, and
Chris Young (pitcher). Keep in mind what
Bonds before colorization looked like. If you know any other editors who you think may have strong opinions one way or another please ask them to comment as well.--
TonyTheTiger (
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14:59, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
User:Street20, who has done good work on the MLB roster templates, keeps making incorrect edits at John Smoltz. He keeps changing Smoltz years with Atlanta in the infobox from "1988-present" (correct) to "1988-1999, 2001-present" because Smoltz was injured in 2000. Obviously, he was still with the organization as much as ever so there should be no break in the years. Can anyone help me explain to Street20 that his edit is wrong?► Chris Nelson 02:18, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
I note that there are currently several subprojects which function as subprojects of more than one "parent" project. This project would seem, at least to me, to be one such project. I was wondering if you might want to consider "formalizing" a relationship with the Biography Project. It might help get more editors involved in these articles. Also, at least potentially, I might be able to adjust the biography banner to include separate assessments for this group. If any of you have any opinions one way or another, please feel free to indicate them below. John Carter 13:16, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Notability (people)#Additional criteria#Current notability guidelines state that anyone who plays in a fully professional league is notable. While I had previously thought that only Major League Players had inherent notability, it would now seem that minor league players do as well. (Also see this discussion). Any thoughts? CitiCat ♫ 17:31, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
I have created this category to assist us in identifying articles that are missing the necessary infoboxes. Please tag articles with the category when you come across them. Better yet, dig through the category and add infoboxes to the articles. Caknuck ( talk) 23:58, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
A while back we hashed out some naming standards that seemed to have consensus, but they seem to have disappeared. Unfortunately, without naming standards for player articles, we're getting some chaos out there. This article is on its third name, for example. Anyone know the status of the naming standards?-- Fabrictramp ( talk) 20:40, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
I have completely revamped the "How to help" section on the Task Force page. Your thoughts/comments/opinions/revisions are appreciated. Caknuck ( talk) 14:23, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
I made a web page that will generate a partially completed infobox based off of a player's baseball reference page. Try it out here. Right now it only works on retired players. You just need to give it the baseball reference link, the player's position, and whether or not they are deceased. It will then pull the information from the players br page and present it as a partially filled infobox. You still need to fill in the player's teams (debut, final, and career), their highlights, and their stats. Based on their position, it will fill in stat labels (for a pitcher: win-loss, era, strikeouts, everyone else: batting average, home runs, rbi) although obviously you can change this to whatever you want.
If you try it on a player (remember right now they must be retired) and it doesn't work, let me know. If BR changes the formatting of the page, things could get messed up. Also, the site is on a free web host, so there's no guarantee that it will remain up. I've used it to generate a few already, and it definitely speeds things up. Let me know if you have any suggestions for improvements. - Mattingly23 ( talk) 01:37, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
Found his article in the uncategorized pages. Roric Harrison has an important piece of trivia associated with him (last pitcher to homer in AL before advent of DH rule in 1972). I'd like some assistance to be able to have that fact be in the Did You Know section on the Main Page. DandyDan2007 ( talk) 04:24, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
See Shawn Riggans and [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7]
I think this article is Copyright problems. so help at Shawn Riggans. My English may be inappropriate, because I am User en-1.-- Kanesue ( talk) 09:57, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
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I've brought up an issue at Wikipedia_talk:Naming_conventions_(baseball_players)#Naming_conventions.2C_redux, for any who are interested.-- Fabrictramp | talk to me 22:41, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
I have a couple of questions about what information should be on player pages as it relates to the draft.
First, what is the status of the remaining draft pages that are still redlinks? Is anyone working on those? I've been adding links to these on some of the player pages on which I've worked, but I was just wondering if maybe I should go create them myself in between my other projects.
Second (and related to the first), will the secondary phases of the various drafts eventually get some kind of information added, ever? I see nothing on the main Major League Baseball Draft page, nor can I find any separate page (or, really, any information at all) on the secondary phase anywhere on Wikipedia. Will the secondary phase drafts be separate pages? Will they be included on the page of each draft? What about years like 1973, that had regular and secondary phases in both January and June?
Any guidance on any of this would be appreciated. Thanks! - Dewelar ( talk) 23:00, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
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I took a number of photos last night of Sacramento Rivercats players, and will be uploading them over the next couple of weeks. As part of this, I'll also clean up and improve the sourcing on existing articles. Which leads me to my question -- what's the right info box to use for notable minor leaguers who haven't made it to the bigs? What about managers such as Tony DeFrancesco? He's been a minor league player and a major leach coach, but is best known as a minor league manager.-- Fabrictramp | talk to me 16:47, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
I think that Ryan Braun is now worthy of being considered "high importance", rather than mid, but since I've worked on the article would request that someone else take a look and (if they agree) do the honors of making the change. Tx.-- Epeefleche ( talk) 07:15, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
Is there a list on Wikipedia of players who have had their careers interrupted by military service? -- 64.85.222.193 ( talk) 05:32, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
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I just went through an expansion of J. R. Richard, and I've brought it from 5KB in length to nearly 54KB in length. This should pass GA fairly quickly, and after that I'm going for FA. Can I get any other Wikipedians to review the article, copyedit and make corrections? Thanks, Nishkid64 ( talk) 01:35, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
I'm wondering if we could discuss the "Selected Statistics" in the infoboxes. I think it is a good idea to have some there, but I'm not sure that great standardization is an improvement. We've all agreed, I'm sure that pitchers and non-pitchers don't get the same statistics listed there. I'm just wondering if we could tailor the selected statistics to be the most suitable three or so statistics for that player. This situation comes up more for the greats than for the run of the mill players. Some editors have suggested that for all batters the three statistics should be batting average, RBIs, and HRs. But I think that for a player like Rickey Henderson, having stolen bases is much more important than RBIs. (I would even argue that walks and runs scored would be more important than batting average for him). I also do not believe that for a closer such as Trevor Hoffman or Mariano Rivera wins and losses are the most important quick stat, and that putting W-L record above saves, ERA, and strikeouts is an odd choice. I am mostly arguing against standardization which goes against displaying prominently whatever it is that players are best known for. -- Myke Cuthbert (talk) 04:14, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
Two issues: (1) User:Kinston eagle has been undoing all the edits I made to the infoboxes in the Indians' player articles. I've left a message on this user's talk page asking him/her to stop. But now if I revert the edits, I'll be in violation of WP:3RR, right? I'd prefer to avoid breaking the rules (and the consequent potential block). What is supposed to be done in a situation like this?
(2) User:Soxrock is updating selected players' statistics with current numbers. Isn't this kind of thing against guidelines (something about WP not being a news source)? It seems to me to be a bad idea to make these updates unless we're going to do so for each and every player's stats on a somewhat regular basis. Otherwise, we end up with an uneven mixture (mess?) of data on the player pages. Furthermore, this user doesn't bother to change the "as of" date, so, in reality, what they're doing is posting inaccurate information. How is this type of thing supposed to be handled here?
Thanks in advance for any and all feedback. -- Sanfranman59 03:28, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
Hey guys, this guy Soxrock is going around and changing all the years from 2003 in baseball|2003, how it is listed on all players to 2003 in MLB|2003, and he is only doing it on half of the entries for a certain player, so half are the right way and half is the way he wants it, I told him repeatedly to stop, as it will create more work to go back and revert all his edits back to the original way, he will have none of it, after my reverts back to the original, he went and reverted back to his way, saying that he doesn't care. We need to do something with this guy, all this guy is doing is causing problems. MetsFan153 13:48, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
I propose for all Major League Baseball players boxes that years that there is a single Major League Baseball season (i.e. 2000 MLB season) that it replace what is currently in the links (i.e. 2000 in baseball would be replaced). It's a good idea in my mind. What about yours? Thanks Soxrock 13:55, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
I agree, it is better with the MLB season instead of in baseball-- Yankees10 14:07, 25 May 2007 (UTC)Yankees10
After looking I have changed my mind considering in baseball has way more information than the MLB season -- Yankees10 14:09, 25 May 2007 (UTC)Yakees10
Ok, I've got a good idea to try to change your minds. I plan to make the basic groundworks for many un-made pages (i.e. 1968 or any other year). What would you say if I made those pages and provided a good amount of information? please say yes if I do. Soxrock 14:19, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
As discussed above, I have posted the draft copy of the proposed naming convention for baseball player articles here. Please feel free to discuss/propose changes at the talk page for the draft copy. I will post a notice at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions. Thanks, Caknuck 04:07, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
In the absence of Template:Mlbhof, I have been using Template:Mlbretired on former players who are now in the Baseball Hall of Fame. Does anyone disagree with this strategy? If so, what alternative do you suggest? // Tecmobowl 04:02, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
I have been trying to familiarize my self with the various naming conventions of wiki. Based on everything I have read, I am not sure if Shoeless Joe Jackson is in fact, named appropriately. I am sure that this will be a hot issue, but if we focus on the information and not on personal opinion, I think we can have a solid discussion. I am having a difficult time locating articles for athletes who had a supplemental nickname (as opposed to a nickname that "replaced" their common name - ie... Hank Aaron and Babe Ruth. It would seem that Joe Jackson (baseball player) would be more appropriate? Any thoughts? // Tecmobowl 18:43, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
I recently created the USA Today All-USA high school baseball team article. I think it can be pretty useful if done right. However, before I get to far into it, does anyone have any suggestion for how it is formated and what information is relayed? I could also use some help in figuring out which players (beyond the obvious ones like Joe Mauer), are really noteworthy and deserve their own articles. // Tecmobowl 18:22, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
The template has been proposed for deletion here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Templates_for_deletion#Template:MLB_HoF
Baseball Project members might like to voice an opinion. Modernist 17:05, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
there has been a lot of discussion and arguement about what colors should be in Reggie Jacksons and Jeff Nelson (baseball player)s infoboxes, and in some peoples opinions the colors should be neutral in all retired players infoboxes like in retired football players infoboxes, write your opinion about what we should do, neutral or not?-- Yankees10 01:31, 25 June 2007 (UTC)Yankees10
Consistency is key. Not all players have an obvious choice for colors, especially in these days of free agency. If some players have colors that cannot be agreed upon, no retired players should have them. They are not under contract with an MLB team, they don't need colors. Chris Nelson 01:50, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
But what color would be the neutral color, it really doesnt look good when there is no color with the black words, would it be something like the LightBlueSteel (or whatever it is) like the NFL infobox, or something different-- Yankees10 01:53, 25 June 2007 (UTC)Yankees10
Hot pink and forest green? Chris Nelson 04:46, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
I think it should be a cool sweet gray — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.82.16.153 ( talk • contribs)
why cant we just use the light blue steel the NFL infoboxes have-- Yankees10 20:25, 25 June 2007 (UTC)Yankees10
Perhaps we should create a convention for this. My suggestion, although a bit of the cuff so excuse the poor wording, would be this:
Thoughts? // Tecmobowl 21:36, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
I think we should watch a freekin awesome comedy, instead of argueing -- — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.82.16.153 ( talk • contribs)
Hopefully, the final tweak has been made to the proposed naming conventions for baseball players. The discussion on the guidelines can be viewed here and here. Please review the proposal here and add any comments/suggestions/feedback on the talk page. If there are no major issues, we'll put this thing to a straw poll in a few days, and if successful will then submit for formal inclusion on WP:NC. Thanks, Caknuck 04:33, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
I think this needs to be dug up and given new life. What do you think? After I sign off today, I will not be back on for at least a day or so. If you agree and have the time to get the article back into play, I will definitely join in when i return. // Tecmobowl 00:25, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
Hello, everyone! I’m new to this particular page, though I’m a passionate baseball fan (specifically, I’m a die-hard Yankee fan — say what you want, but I’ve pretty much lived my entire life in and around NYC) and a constantly-contributing Wikipedian. Anyway, I thought this would be a good place to start a discussion about the template that I’ve linked to in the title of this section, Template:Bbhof. It’s a very simple external link template — with an input of the player’s HOF ID, the template creates an external link to his HOF bio page. It can be found on pretty much every single HOF member’s Wikipedia page (I haven’t actually checked all 280 members’ pages), but there’s a serious issue with it. The external link created by the template wasn’t even correct; it just redirected to the head page of the HOF’s “The Hall of Famers” section. I’ve now changed the template syntax so that it now creates a correctly-formed external link, but that doesn’t completely do the job. The HOF’s website uses six-digit numbers, starting with “110001” for Hank Aaron and ending with “124721” for Robin Yount, as member IDs. I don’t know if they recently revamped their ID system, but unfortunately, most of the Wikipedia pages that feature this template for HOF members use the template input of the member’s name, instead of their six-digit HOF ID number. (For example, before I corrected it, the template syntax on Lou Gehrig’s Wikipedia entry looked like this:
{{bbhof|id=gehrig_lou}}
I went ahead and fixed it (I happened to be making numerous other edits to the article), and it now looks like this, which is how it has to look if the template and external link are to work properly (as you can see, Gehrig’s HOF ID is 114860):
{{bbhof|id=114680}}
Clearly, fixing the template syntax was only half the job, and I presume that the sharp-minded among you can now see the momentous task that lies before us. It seems that the only way to correct the Wikipedia articles of all HOF members is to go to the HOF website, find their respective ID numbers, and then insert them into the Bbhof templates that are already in use on their Wikipedia articles. Obviously, doing this manually would take quite a long time, so I’m wondering — and this is a question for those of you who know about Wikipedia’s inner workings, specifically bots — is there any way we can automate this task? Otherwise, I’ll be stuck doing this individually, which could take months. Of course, if doing this by hand is the only way to go about it, I hope I’ll have some help. Any takers? Respond here; I’m watching this page.
P.S. And of course, to my fellow Americans: Happy Independence Day! — BrOnXbOmBr21 • talk • contribs • 18:37, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
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I have been working on the page for the Carolina League Kinston Indians for a little while now. One area that was started before I got there, and is present on many other minor league pages, is a section which consists of a list of noted alumni. I also added a list for alumni of Kinston's earlier teams. As you can see, the lists just keep growing as I find more and more Kinston players who have wikipedia pages. There are now some 140 names on the two lists. What is your opinion of an all-time roster page for a minor league team similar to Los Angeles Dodgers all-time roster or maybe a list page like List of Chicago White Sox people that would include all notable former players, coaches and managers. I was going to be bold and go ahead and create it, but I figured I should see what the feelings of the people here were. I don't want to create it and then have it soon thereafter put up as an afd as being non-notable. A distinct possibility since there seems to be a general distaste for anything concerning the minor leagues on wikipedia. Thoughts? Kinston eagle 14:27, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the input. I think I'm going to do this, but I'm going to wait a couple days to see if anyone has a strong objection. Kinston eagle 20:27, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
I am bringing this situation up because of a dispute at Talk:Reggie Jackson. The dispute is about whether Jackson's infobox template colors should be the colors of the New York Yankees. The page has been fully protected because of this. The reason I'm leaving this comment is because I feel that with everybody giving their opinions about what colors they think the infobox should be, I feel that this violates Wikipedia:Neutral point of view, which states as follows:
All Wikipedia articles and other encyclopedic content must be written from a neutral point of view (NPOV), representing fairly and without bias all significant views (that have been published by reliable sources).
I feel that with everybody giving their own opinions, this is leading to everybody becoming biased towards either direction of the argument. It is because of this that I highly suggest removing all colors from the templates of Retired MLB players, as not all of them, such as for Reggie Jackson, can we determine one way or another. I think that removing the colors from the templates altogether would prevent any disputes about which team should be represented.
This is an encyclopedia. We are encyclopedians. It isn't up to us to determine which team a player should represent. Removing all colors from the templates for retired MLB players is the only sure way to prevent disputes and WP:NPOV. For example, retired NHL players (see Luc Robitaille for an example)... actually, all NHL players don't have any colors in their templates. The MLB templates should do the same. Ksy92003 (talk) 05:00, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
I believe the best nPOV way is to keep infobox colors only on current players, managers, and hall of famers depicting the team represented in the hall. I hate thinking of Wade Boggs in Red Sox colors, but it's only fair - he's going down in history as a Red Sox player. Another exception would be players who spent their careers with one team. Mghabmw 19:23, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
What about coaches that gained notoriety playing for other teams more than as being coaches?
I think they should get the color of the team they coach or manage for.
Mghabmw
23:38, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
Regarding, Reggie Jackson, I don't think it is any question it should be A's colors:
Reggie's career stats:
A's: 1,346 games, 756 runs, 1,228 hits, 269 HR, 776 RBI, 145 SB
Angels: 687 games, 331 runs, 557 hits, 123 HR, 374 RBI, 14 SB
Yankees: 653 games, 380 runs, 661 hits, 144 HR, 461 RBI, 41 SB
Orioles: 134 games, 84 runs, 138 hits, 27 HR, 91 RBI, 28 SB
World Series titles:
A's: 1972, 1973, 1974
Yankees: 1977, 1978
MVP Awards:
A's: 1973 Yankees: none
Top 5 MVP Finishes:
A's: 1969, 1973, 1974, 1975
Yankees: 1980
All-Star Appearances:
A's: 6
Yankees: 4
Angels: 1
Single-Season Career Highs:
AVG: .300 (1980 Yankees)
HR: 47 (1969 A's)
RBI: 118 (1969 A's)
SB: 17 (1970 A's)
OPS: 1.018 (1969 A's)
So he played more years for the A's, he won more championships for the A's, he put up greater career stats with the A's, he had his best statistical seasons with the A's, he made more All-Star teams with the A's, he won his only MVP Award with the A's. I know he has the whole "Mr. October" thing with the Yankees, but I really don't think that those 2 weeks in October overshadow an entire career where he accomplished his greatest overall success in Oakland. If he never won any championships in Oakland, then I could understand - but he won even more championships in Oakland than he did in New York and I don't think anyone would argue that the 1977-78 Yankees were better teams than the 1972-74 A's dynasty.
As for the Hall of Fame cap, let's set the record straight. The Hall of Fame has ALWAYS maintained the ultimate decision on the cap, but they never began enforcing it until the controversy with Tampa trying to buy a D-Rays cap on Wade Boggs' plaque. After that, the Hall changed their stance and began actively enforcing their power. There is a link in the article stating that Reggie was intending to wear an A's cap on his plaque but was upset at A's management when he was fired as a coach after the 1991 season. Sensing the opportunity, George Steinbrenner then brought Reggie back into the Yankees fold and Reggie subsequently went with the NY on his cap (it has also been revealed that Hall of Famers benefit monetarily with autographs and appearances when they are recognized with the Yankees). Anyway, had the Hall actively enforced their power back then, I honestly believe they would have overruled Reggie and put an A's cap on his plaque as they were just most representative of his total career. If you take away his 5 years in New York, he probably still makes the Hall based on the rest of his career. You can not say the same if you take his A's stats out of his career totals.
Another example of this would be looking at the more recent case involving Gary Carter, who was similar to Reggie in that he is probably best remembered for his 5-year stint in New York over a greater amount of time spent elsewhere (in this case, Montreal). However, when Carter elected to wear a Mets cap on his plaque, he was overruled and given an Expos cap based on his greater overall service time and aggregate statistics. In fact, I would say that Carter's case for notoriety with the Mets over the Expos is just as strong, if not stronger than Reggie's notoriety with the Yanks over the A's when you consider that Reggie won 3 titles for a dynasty in Oakland while Carter mainly toiled for mediocre Expos teams before joining the Mets.
As a result, when looking at the aggregate compilation of Reggie's 20-year career, I think that while he is remembered well as "Mr. October" with the Yankees, he played more October games with the A's, and that is where he also achieved his greatest overall success.
You may want to come by and comment at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Chris Young (pitcher).-- TonyTheTiger ( t/ c/ bio/ tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 23:42, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
I also have a nice baseball FAC at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Bob Meusel. Thanks Jaranda wat's sup 01:01, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
In baseball, there are certain qualifying numbers that are significant. There are the number of at bats or innings one needs to accumulate to qualify for Rookie of the Year. There is another set of numbers (I believe 162 innings and 510 plate appearances) needed to qualify for annual statistical leadership. What is the number of career games, at bats, plate appearances, innings necessary to qualify for career statistical leadership? I am trying to clean up the WP:LEAD at Hector Lopez and need to correctly state the fact.-- TonyTheTiger ( t/ c/ bio/ tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 02:40, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
Comment I think you are misinterpretting my question. Suppose, a player wants to qualify for the career batting average, slugging percentage, on base percentage, home runs per at bat leadership. How many career plate appearances, at bats, or games does one need? Similarly, if one wants to qualify for the career Earne run average leadership, how many career innings or games does one need?-- TonyTheTiger ( t/ c/ bio/ tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 07:11, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
P.S. I know there is a number of seasons required to qualify for a pension, which is also a significant number in determining who had a career and who played in the majors. I guess that number is also relevant here.-- TonyTheTiger ( t/ c/ bio/ tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 07:13, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
Hey I would like to join this project. How can I??? Thanks cheesepuffsaretasty!!! ( talk) 17:39, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
User:StormXor and I worked together to come up with a pretty good colorization scheme in the presence of heavy editorial activity in the weeks immediately after 756 at
Barry Bonds. Now, there is a move afoot to uncolorize Bonds. Opinions are needed at
Talk:Barry_Bonds#stats_section_use_of_color. We are debating the use of colors in stats tables with respect to
WP:WAI section 4 and the current
Barry Bonds page versus the
former color scheme. The debate will probably shape color scheme usage throughout baseball bio article stat sections so be thoughtful. You may want to look at other pages that have colorized stat sections such as
Roger Clemens,
Hector Lopez, and
Chris Young (pitcher). Keep in mind what
Bonds before colorization looked like. If you know any other editors who you think may have strong opinions one way or another please ask them to comment as well.--
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User:Street20, who has done good work on the MLB roster templates, keeps making incorrect edits at John Smoltz. He keeps changing Smoltz years with Atlanta in the infobox from "1988-present" (correct) to "1988-1999, 2001-present" because Smoltz was injured in 2000. Obviously, he was still with the organization as much as ever so there should be no break in the years. Can anyone help me explain to Street20 that his edit is wrong?► Chris Nelson 02:18, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
I note that there are currently several subprojects which function as subprojects of more than one "parent" project. This project would seem, at least to me, to be one such project. I was wondering if you might want to consider "formalizing" a relationship with the Biography Project. It might help get more editors involved in these articles. Also, at least potentially, I might be able to adjust the biography banner to include separate assessments for this group. If any of you have any opinions one way or another, please feel free to indicate them below. John Carter 13:16, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Notability (people)#Additional criteria#Current notability guidelines state that anyone who plays in a fully professional league is notable. While I had previously thought that only Major League Players had inherent notability, it would now seem that minor league players do as well. (Also see this discussion). Any thoughts? CitiCat ♫ 17:31, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
I have created this category to assist us in identifying articles that are missing the necessary infoboxes. Please tag articles with the category when you come across them. Better yet, dig through the category and add infoboxes to the articles. Caknuck ( talk) 23:58, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
A while back we hashed out some naming standards that seemed to have consensus, but they seem to have disappeared. Unfortunately, without naming standards for player articles, we're getting some chaos out there. This article is on its third name, for example. Anyone know the status of the naming standards?-- Fabrictramp ( talk) 20:40, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
I have completely revamped the "How to help" section on the Task Force page. Your thoughts/comments/opinions/revisions are appreciated. Caknuck ( talk) 14:23, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
I made a web page that will generate a partially completed infobox based off of a player's baseball reference page. Try it out here. Right now it only works on retired players. You just need to give it the baseball reference link, the player's position, and whether or not they are deceased. It will then pull the information from the players br page and present it as a partially filled infobox. You still need to fill in the player's teams (debut, final, and career), their highlights, and their stats. Based on their position, it will fill in stat labels (for a pitcher: win-loss, era, strikeouts, everyone else: batting average, home runs, rbi) although obviously you can change this to whatever you want.
If you try it on a player (remember right now they must be retired) and it doesn't work, let me know. If BR changes the formatting of the page, things could get messed up. Also, the site is on a free web host, so there's no guarantee that it will remain up. I've used it to generate a few already, and it definitely speeds things up. Let me know if you have any suggestions for improvements. - Mattingly23 ( talk) 01:37, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
Found his article in the uncategorized pages. Roric Harrison has an important piece of trivia associated with him (last pitcher to homer in AL before advent of DH rule in 1972). I'd like some assistance to be able to have that fact be in the Did You Know section on the Main Page. DandyDan2007 ( talk) 04:24, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
See Shawn Riggans and [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7]
I think this article is Copyright problems. so help at Shawn Riggans. My English may be inappropriate, because I am User en-1.-- Kanesue ( talk) 09:57, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
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I've brought up an issue at Wikipedia_talk:Naming_conventions_(baseball_players)#Naming_conventions.2C_redux, for any who are interested.-- Fabrictramp | talk to me 22:41, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
I have a couple of questions about what information should be on player pages as it relates to the draft.
First, what is the status of the remaining draft pages that are still redlinks? Is anyone working on those? I've been adding links to these on some of the player pages on which I've worked, but I was just wondering if maybe I should go create them myself in between my other projects.
Second (and related to the first), will the secondary phases of the various drafts eventually get some kind of information added, ever? I see nothing on the main Major League Baseball Draft page, nor can I find any separate page (or, really, any information at all) on the secondary phase anywhere on Wikipedia. Will the secondary phase drafts be separate pages? Will they be included on the page of each draft? What about years like 1973, that had regular and secondary phases in both January and June?
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I took a number of photos last night of Sacramento Rivercats players, and will be uploading them over the next couple of weeks. As part of this, I'll also clean up and improve the sourcing on existing articles. Which leads me to my question -- what's the right info box to use for notable minor leaguers who haven't made it to the bigs? What about managers such as Tony DeFrancesco? He's been a minor league player and a major leach coach, but is best known as a minor league manager.-- Fabrictramp | talk to me 16:47, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
I think that Ryan Braun is now worthy of being considered "high importance", rather than mid, but since I've worked on the article would request that someone else take a look and (if they agree) do the honors of making the change. Tx.-- Epeefleche ( talk) 07:15, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
Is there a list on Wikipedia of players who have had their careers interrupted by military service? -- 64.85.222.193 ( talk) 05:32, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
Please see discussion here Corpx ( talk) 07:36, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
Billy Sunday has been nominated for a good article reassessment. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to good article quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status will be removed from the article. Reviewers' concerns are here. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 ( talk • contrib) 06:13, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
At Albert Pujols, there is a dispute requiring resolution on whether or not full career statistical lists should be included. There was a previous discussion on the main project talk page, as well as an ongoing discussion on the Talk:Albert Pujols. I asked for a third opinion on the matter from an outside source. While the editor gracefully gave an opinion, I was also requested to leave an additional message here to see if any editors watching this page have comments on the issue. Thanks. KV5 ( Talk • Phils) 17:01, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
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