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Okay, so I just created the Wild Card standings templates and...would anyone know how to get the navbar inside the header horizontally? As in, not floating above the table like {{ 2013 AL Wild Card standings}}, but not vertically inside the header row like {{ 2013 AL Central standings}}. Help would be appreciated. Thanks. T C N7JM 18:57, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
Refocusing the question at hand, is there any way that navbar can go in the header row without screwing up the header? {{ 2013 NL West standings}} comes close, but the header is off-center. T C N7JM 20:20, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
{{
Navbar}}
doesn't play nicely with table cells. It looks just fine to have it outside of the table. If having it at the top is distracting, it should go below the table. –
Fredddie
™
22:05, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
Just my opinion, but wildcard standings or anything requiring a daily update, would seem to fall under WP:NOTNEWSPAPER and WP:RECENT. I would think entering "wildcard race" into a search engine would get a lot of sites before listing a Wikipedia page, but that's just a guess on my part. Although Wikipedia does not employ hard-and-fast rules, and if an editor is motivated enough to provide daily updates, then more power to them. Orsoni ( talk) 00:13, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
I posted something earlier about this, but did not receive any consensus with my position so, in the spirit of consensus, I am asking for input again.
I feel WBC info should be included in a player's infobox for the following reasons: 1. Selection to the WBC is like selection to an All-Star game and ASG selections are notable. 2. Much like the FIFA World Cup, it signifies elite status from the country they represent. 3. We already list awards for players in multiple professional leagues (e.g. NPB-MLB), so saying it is only a MLB award infobox is incorrect. 4. We already make note of Olympic medals and similar amateur awards of notability on the international level.
I feel these reasons support inclusion of WBC selections into the infoboxes. Arnabdas ( talk) 21:44, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
Please be aware of this discussion at MOS: Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Dates and numbers#Years; reverts. This discussion grew out of a feature article review for an NBA basketball player Juwan Howard. Before jumping into the discussion, I suggest that you read the relevant MOS section, MOS:YEAR. As I'm sure you can see, this has the potential to significantly change the currently used year span conventions in the MLB player infoboxes. Dirtlawyer1 ( talk) 05:19, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
I am currently involved in a dispute with an editor at Melky Cabrera's page. Cabrera's infobox had listed two WS championships (2009 & 2012) before User:TL565 removed 2012. It had been previously added by an anon user which I reverted, before it was reliably sourced that Cabrera was to receive a WS ring and a full WS financial share, even though he did not make any appeaances in the postseason. Just for my own knowledge, do we list WS championships if a player receives a ring, or is inclusion based on something else? Trut-h-urts man ( T • C) 01:31, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
This is just a thought, but I was wondering what the level of interest would be in doing some sort of Baseball WikiProject Good Article Drive. This could either be done in a competitive format, or just as a collaborative "for the good of the encyclopedia" format, but either way, I think that now would be a good time to start devoting some attention to baseball player articles, especially current players who are entering their first few years of play as people will inevitably come looking to read more about them and if we put together some good articles, readers will be more satisfied. Therefore, I propose that we, as a project, do a good article drive of some kind. I looked at WP:BBAID which was evidently from about four years ago and there is some ground work there to look at if anyone is interested. Thoughts anyone? Go Phightins ! 23:19, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
Great! Well, the project is now set up, so please jump right in and feel free to throw out some names from players in the other five divisions (I suggested some for NL East). Go Phightins ! 02:44, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
The stat_year field included in {{ Infobox baseball player}} would be less misleading if it was called the stat_date field instead. Is there any easy way to change it? AutomaticStrikeout ( T • C • AAPT) 02:37, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
The heading is pretty self-explanatory. I'm not completely sure if I should or should not mark those edits as minor and with Opening Day close, now is a pretty good time to get that cleared up once and for all (hopefully). AutomaticStrikeout ( T • C • AAPT) 03:17, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
I'm currently editing Ellis Valentine's article. There is no picture of him on this article, and I'd like to add the picture of him from his 1981 Topps baseball card. It shows him wearing the batting helmet with the half football face mask that he started wearing after suffering his fractured cheekbone. Anyway, how do I do it without pissing off the wiki-gods? -- 71.54.241.179 ( talk) 23:45, 26 March 2013 (UTC) J.S.
This IP's contributions should probably be monitored. There is a lot of OR coming from there. AutomaticStrikeout ( T • C • AAPT) 20:03, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
file:Fenway Frank.jpg has been nominated for deletion. Is there anything distinctive about Fenway Park hot dogs? -- 65.92.180.137 ( talk) 00:56, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
I'd like to know, from whoever put this parameter on the infobox, where they gained a consensus for the move. I searched the archives here and couldn't find a thread. I must have missed the conversation. Albacore ( talk) 15:49, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
Kudos to everyone who kept that (2013-present) BS out of the infobox during the offseason. That was far less of a problem the 2012-13 offseason than any I remember here. Go Yankees! – Muboshgu ( talk) 17:18, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
file:1920 cub logo.jpg has been nominated for deletion -- 65.92.180.137 ( talk) 02:31, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
Suppose we have a picture of a minor league baseball player. In the picture, the subject is playing for a team affiliated with the Anaheim Angels (their real name). Specifically I am talking about this file: File:Sean Rodriguez - Salt Lake Bees Aug 2009.jpg. Would it be considered under the scope of the Angels task force, since he was in their organization at the time the file was taken, or should it not be tagged as such because the picture does not show him in an Angels uniform? AutomaticStrikeout ( T • C • Sign AAPT) 03:53, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
I've opened a bot request for approval here for a bot to automatically add {{ WikiProject Baseball}} to talk pages of files that are included on pages in baseball-related categories. Your comments are welcome, and any help in assembling a list of categories to prowl through would be great as well! — Theopolisme ( talk) 16:37, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
In general, are College Baseball All-Americans considered worthy enough for an article? At one point, a user went through and added College All-American templates that have a lot of red links. I would like to try to get rid of some of those red links, but I'd rather not create articles if they aren't generally going to pass muster. Alex ( talk) 01:31, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
Can somebody please take a look here and see if you can fix the error that is causing some of the information for Bobby Wallace not to be centered? AutomaticStrikeout ( T • C • Sign AAPT) 20:32, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
Hey guys. I've noticed that a lot of stuff in this project is hardcoded when it could quite easily be otherwise. I propose we create core templates for things such as game logs and standings tables. What I mean by this, if you're not sure, is that we should have one set of templates that we can just add some parameters to and come out with a table. This would reduce the amount of data on a page, which in turn reduces load times, as well as make it much easier to create tables for things that appear everywhere in baseball season articles.
For an example of how this can be done well, look at {{
jctint}}
. With this set of templates, you just type the parameters in and you have an easy list of junctions in a legibly-formatted table for highway articles.
If anyone has time and is experienced in creating templates, I think taking the time to create core templates could be a great benefit to the project. Tell me what you guys think. T C N7JM 03:18, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
{{
Linescore}}
, {{
MLB roster}}
, and {{
MiLB roster}}
. We could use one for game logs and standings. I'll work on the standings one. –
Muboshgu (
talk)
16:31, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
{{
MLB standings}}
, but I'm having an issue with the "if" statements to get the optional parameters (beyond the minimum of four teams of the AL West before 2013). I
tried it out at {{
2012 AL East standings}}
and it works other than that Boston disappears (though I wouldn't necessarily mind that actually happening...). Can anyone proof my work? –
Muboshgu (
talk)
17:08, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
{{MLB standings}}
, you could specify |team1=HOU
and it would output "Houston Astros", etc. –
Fredddie
™
23:43, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
Using {{
MLB standings}}
as a starting point, I created a sandbox Lua module to generate an MLB standings table that will automatically calculate winning percentage and games behind, and can support any number of teams. The syntax I chose is perhaps too concise, so any suggestions for a different syntax is welcome. Here is an example:
{{User:Isaacl/MLB standings |division=American League East |year=2012 |New York Yankees |51|30 |44|37 |Baltimore Orioles |47|34 |46|35 |Tampa Bay Rays |46|35 |44|37 |Toronto Blue Jays |41|40 |32|49 |Boston Red Sox |34|47 |35|46 }}
generates
Team | W | L | Pct. | GB | Home | Road |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
New York Yankees | 95 | 67 | .586 | — | 51–30 | 44–37 |
Baltimore Orioles | 93 | 69 | .574 | 2 | 47–34 | 46–35 |
Tampa Bay Rays | 90 | 72 | .556 | 5 | 46–35 | 44–37 |
Toronto Blue Jays | 73 | 89 | .451 | 22 | 41–40 | 32–49 |
Boston Red Sox | 69 | 93 | .426 | 26 | 34–47 | 35–46 |
Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Baseball/Archive 35
isaacl ( talk) 00:00, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
I've added support for specifying seeds, as is done when the template is included in the season article, such as 2011 Major League Baseball season. This requires a "seeds" argument to be passed through to the helper template. I've also added support for a highlight parameter, to be used when the template is included on a team's season page, such as 2011 Toronto Blue Jays season. See the examples at the bottom of User:Isaacl/MLB standings/testcases. isaacl ( talk) 04:19, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
I've updated Template:MLB standings to use the Lua module Module:MLB standings, as well as the documentation to describe how to use the template in a division standings template, and how the division standings template is used in a team season article and the MLB season article. isaacl ( talk) 02:53, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
I've updated Template:MLB standings so it can be used to generate a division leaders table, as shown on the wild card standings template (such as Template:2012 AL Wild Card standings). See the documentation for details. I haven't figured out the best way to deal with the wild card race: the easy way out would be to require the "games behind" information to be entered in rather than automatically calculated. isaacl ( talk) 18:37, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
|highlight=Baltimore Orioles
isn't working for highlighting. Is this not what I'm supposed to use?
T
C
N7JM
04:35, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
Hey. Could somebody check out what's up at this page? There's, like, a bulleted list in between the navboxes and...it looks weird. T C N7JM 04:58, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
Hello everyone, To those of you signed up to help with the inaugural good article drive already, thank you. If you are not signed up, feel free to do so, or just to pitch in with one or five of the 60 identified articles from improvement which can be found on the drive page linked above. Please sign up for the articles you want to work on just so we can see who is collaborating where. Feel free to team up with others or to tackle them on your own. In any case, Wikipedia readers win by seeing good information on their team's new young players. We really could use your help, so please join us. Thank you very much.
Respectfully yours, Go Phightins ! 02:16, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
An editor claiming to be in contact with Moorad has been making some edits to the article. I've started some discussion threads at Talk:Jeff Moorad that could use other's input.— Bagumba ( talk) 22:31, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
Hi all! About a week ago I filed a bot request for approval for a bot to auto-tag files that are included on baseball related pages (see #Bots_to_auto-tag_files, above). As the bot is going to be approved in the next few days, the next step is for me to get a list of baseball-related categories for the bot to go through -- since I'm not a member of the WikiProject, I thought it would be best to ask all of you for your thoughts. To clarify: I would like a list of categories that contain pages that embed baseball-related images. Thanks, — Theopolisme ( talk) 23:12, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
Hello!
I seem to be the primary editor of the
2013 Philadelphia Phillies season page. As you can see in this article, the schedule template has no place for TV and time.
Would you suggest that I use the colspan feature "spanning" across the Win, Loss, Save, and Attendance fields (as done on
this page), or creating an entirely new column devoted to just this matter, or some other idea?
Ben S. Henderson (
talk)
22:15, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
Regarding this edit at Heath Bell, do we:
I would think it should be "saves leader" (don't hear "saves champion" used as much as "batting champion") and not caps since it's descriptive and not a proper noun. I didn't see any specific guidance at Wikipedia:WikiProject Baseball/Player style advice. Also, I assume saves was not listed as an oversight, as looking at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Baseball/Archive_32#List_of_honors_and_awards and seaching "AL/NL [statistic] champion", it appears most were OK with saves leader being listed in infobox.— Bagumba ( talk) 21:05, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
I'm currently in the midst of cleaning up and adding refs to List of Major League Baseball pitchers who have struck out three batters on nine pitches. I have several questions—Should I keep the game score in the table or should this be removed, since it is completely irrelevant to pitching an immaculate inning (i.e. one great inning does not determine the final score)? And should I include career strikeouts in the table? — Bloom6132 ( talk) 13:17, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
In the game log, how should a game suspension be recorded? (Phillies and Reds are currently suspended at 0–0 in the bottom of the ninth due to heavy rain; play is to be resumed today at 5:30 before tonight's scheduled game.) Should there be a footnote link in next to the score for that game showing that it was suspended until the next day? Ben S. Henderson ( talk) 11:35, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
Could some project members stop by at Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/Theo's Little Bot 3 to review a task affecting baseball articles? Thanks. MBisanz talk 22:07, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
Looking for input regarding infobox stats - recently, I removed the stat ERA+ from Wainwright's infobox, which was re-added by User:Katydidit. I have never seen this stat in a player's infobox before (not even included in career leaders infoboxes Mariano Rivera, Pedro Martinez, Jim Devlin, etc.) though it is mentioned on some of their pages. Personally, I don't think ERA+ should be in any infobox, as it's confusing to the average reader to include traditional ERA and ERA+ in one box, in my opinion. Trut-h-urts man ( T • C) 18:35, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
Hello, I've recently been updating the early Pittsburg Alleghenys seasons and wanted to update the season standings to the current template for using MLB Standings but I can't put alternate text for the link in the division field. I left it disambiguated on this template because I can't point the link for American Association to the correct century. Is there any correction to this or do I have to find a alternative way to display them? Thanks, B2Project (Talk) 06:05, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
We really should get rid of this page or at very least edit it to make clear that the gyroball was a spoof that briefly blew up in the mid 2000s before petering out. If you read the article as it stands, you would believe its actually a real pitch. Py0alb ( talk) 15:10, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
Rather than having a bunch of editors update all of the various templates related to MLB, could a bot be written to do all of the work? Right now, Template:2013 AL Central standings is more updated than Template:2013 AL Wild Card standings and the section at 2013 Minnesota Twins season#Detailed records has no information. I feel like there are enough reliable sources out there that a bot could be written to find all of that information and update the various templates/articles. Ryan Vesey 03:38, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
Not sure if this is the best place to ask, but I was wondering how many of the project members here are interested in helping to start up a baseball task force at Wikidata? AutomaticStrikeout ( T • C • Sign AAPT) 17:50, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
What is the purpose of these? Putting aside my personal hatred of these 'legacy roster' templates, I accept that the baseball project favours such navboxes for championship teams. But honestly, a roster navbox for an inaugural season seems to be neither useful nor desirable. Frankly, I don't see how a navbox for the 1977 Blue Jays is any less arbitrary than the 1982 or 1995 Jays. I'm inclined to TfD the lot, but wanted to gauge the project's viewpoints first. Reso lute 01:08, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
TfD is up here. Reso lute 01:10, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
There is now an IRC channel for collaboration between editors in sports WikiProjects. It's located at #wikipedia-en-sports connect. Cheers, T C N7JM 03:12, 6 May 2013 (UTC).
For those who are unfamilar with IRC, see the guideline on the chat process. Thanks Secret account 04:57, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
The WP:VisualEditor is designed to let people edit without needing to learn wikitext syntax. The articles will look (nearly) the same in the new edit "window" as when you read them (aka WYSIWYG), and changes will show up as you type them, very much like writing a document in a modern word processor. The devs currently expect to deploy the VisualEditor as the new site-wide default editing system in early July 2013.
About 2,000 editors have tried out this early test version so far, and feedback overall has been positive. Right now, the VisualEditor is available only to registered users who opt-in, and it's a bit slow and limited in features. You can do all the basic things like writing or changing sentences, creating or changing section headings, and editing simple bulleted lists. It currently can't either add or remove templates (like fact tags), ref tags, images, categories, or tables (and it will not be turned on for new users until common reference styles and citation templates are supported). These more complex features are being worked on, and the code will be updated as things are worked out. Also, right now you can only use it for articles and user pages. When it's deployed in July, the old editor will still be available and, in fact, the old edit window will be the only option for talk pages (I believe that WP:Notifications (aka Echo) is ultimately supposed to deal with talk pages).
The developers are asking editors like you to join the alpha testing for the VisualEditor. Please go to Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing and tick the box at the end of the page, where it says "Enable VisualEditor (only in the main namespace and the User namespace)". Save the preferences, and then try fixing a few typos or copyediting a few articles by using the new "Edit" tab instead of the section [Edit] buttons or the old editing window (which will still be present and still work for you, but which will be renamed "Edit source"). Fix a typo or make some changes, and then click the 'save and review' button (at the top of the page). See what works and what doesn't. We really need people who will try this out on 10 or 15 pages and then leave a note Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback about their experiences, especially if something mission-critical isn't working and doesn't seem to be on anyone's radar.
Also, if any of you are involved in template maintenance or documentation about how to edit pages, the VisualEditor will require some extra attention. The devs want to incorporate things like citation templates directly into the editor, which means that they need to know what information goes in which fields. Obviously, the screenshots and instructions for basic editing will need to be completely updated. The old edit window is not going away, so help pages will likely need to cover both the old and the new.
If you have questions and can't find a better place to ask them, then please feel free to leave a message on my user talk page, and perhaps together we'll be able to figure it out. WhatamIdoing ( talk) 01:09, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
To be grammatically correct, there should be commas after the years in the debut date and final date. You may have seen that that was the way it was for a while after I put in an edit request for that change to be made. However, recently another sysop has removed the commas. I would like to know whether or not you guys think we should have the commas after the years in those two dates. T C N7JM 22:26, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
Just in case it wasn't clear this section of the infobox is being discussed here. - DJSasso ( talk) 19:37, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
I have opened a move request at Patrick Corbin's talk page. Any and all editor opinions would be appreciated. Trut-h-urts man ( T • C) 16:26, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
This new BLP looks like a vandalism-magnet. If notable will need IP protection. In ictu oculi ( talk) 03:13, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
With respect to the MLB Team minor league players articles (i.e. Detroit Tigers minor league players), when we split out a player to his own individual article, I think we have to follow the split procedures ( WP:PROSPLIT) in order to correctly attribute editor contributions per Wikipedia's licensing.
Also, I wouldn't be against eliminating the minor league player articles altogether. Either the player is notable and he has his own article or he isn't. But if we keep them, we should follow the split procedures. — X96lee15 ( talk) 16:11, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
{{
copied}}
—
Bagumba (
talk)
19:25, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
Over at Talk:Michael Morse. And yes, this time I have notified the other project. Trut-h-urts man ( T • C) 17:51, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
The List of Major League Baseball pitchers who have struck out three batters on nine pitches FLC process is close to being completed and passed. However, since almost all of the comments have come from non-baseball users, I thought it would be great if a set of "expert" eyes from our community could give it a look. I want to ensure nothing is glaringly wrong from a baseball POV. Cheers! — Bloom6132 ( talk) 20:36, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
Please check out this AFD: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/James Rapoport (2nd nomination)-- Yankees10 16:43, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Al Pawlowski. Please help generate discussion. Thanks. Levdr1lostpassword / talk 19:40, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
Given this project's ability to produce Featured Lists, I'd like to see the List of Major League Baseball umpires be of a little more quality. I'd appreciate some help on this article. Some of the things to be done could include adding some pictures, expanding the prose (perhaps to DYK level) and making the list complete. AutomaticStrikeout ? 16:00, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
I suppose this league is notable , but are the individual teams? I came on this from checking the article Baltimore Presstman Cardinals DGG ( talk ) 21:13, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
Mike Trout just did. In updating List of Major League Baseball players to hit for the cycle, I edited the lede to update the number of cycles to 294. Previously it said 293. When going to make the coordinating edit on Hitting for the cycle, I saw that it already had the 294 figure. That article has not, as of this writing, been edited since 8 May. Which figure is correct? Is Trout's the 294th or the 295th? Green-eyed girl ( Talk · Contribs) 04:55, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
While we're on the topic, does this merit mention at all in Trout's article? The only other coverage I've seen is....Bleacher Report.... Green-eyed girl ( Talk · Contribs) 18:03, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
One more while we're on the topic...should "roughly as common as a no-hitter" perhaps be revised to "slightly more common than a no-hitter" ? The two figures are about 8% different. That's not a tiny number. Green-eyed girl ( Talk · Contribs) 18:57, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
Are Category:Wilkes-Barre (minor league baseball) players and Category:Wilkes-Barre Barons (baseball) players referring to the same team? If yes, they need to be merged. If not, there should probably be hatnotes in each. Jrcla2 ( talk) 19:05, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
Could use some other opinions for the lead of Heath Bell at Talk:Heath_Bell#Miami_and_Arizona_in_the_lead.— Bagumba ( talk) 05:38, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
In the past 60 days Tinker to Evers to Chance Baseball's Sad Lexicon set of WP:GAs has been completed. Hats off to Muboshgu ( talk · contribs).-- TonyTheTiger ( T/ C/ BIO/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:FOUR) 14:39, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
Over at Yan Gomes. I've been locked in a revert war with an anon who either does not speak/comprehend English or is choosing to ignore my warnings and discussion. Gomes, with relatively limited major league experience, has played 31 games at catcher, 21 at first base, 8 at third base, and 4 in the outfield (the last time I checked - the count may be off by one game). The anon insists that Gomes is a catcher only, where I have been re-adding the first base and third base positions to his infobox (s/he has now also taken to removing "infielder" from the lead). I blew 3RR probably 10 reverts ago so I would appreciate any editor input on the content dispute and assistance if available. Thanks. Trut-h-urts man ( T • C) 01:37, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
I created Biogenesis of America (surprise it didnt already exist), if anyone wants to expand and nominate it for DYK. I probably won't get to it. The bigger chore might be finding a non-negative hook for it. I imagine another article similar to BALCO scandal is soon to be created also.— Bagumba ( talk) 04:00, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
The Tip O'Neill Award FLC process is close to being finished and passed. One final look from our baseball community would be great. Cheers! — Bloom6132 ( talk) 19:08, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
File:Pythian Baseball Club.jpg has been nominated for deletion -- 65.94.79.6 ( talk) 05:35, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
I am still updating the standing templates to the current format and have ran into another snag for Template:1890 Players' League standings. The issue is how do you disambiguate the the teams if a alternate link would be needed. I looked through the test cases and couldn't find anything. - B2Project (Talk) 07:09, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
I've discovered what looks to be a problem in the MLB Umpire template. In the Adrian Johnson (umpire) article, "Adrian Johnson" is linked to the dab page at the top of the infobox. I don't think this is supposed to be happening.-- Astros4477 ( Talk) 00:38, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
The article about Tris Speaker says that Cap Anson was a member of the Ku Klux Klan, but I have found no historically accurate sources that say he was a Klansman. It says some suspect Ty Cobb as well, but this has not been proven. Is there any proof Anson was in the Klan? 108.0.244.168 ( talk) 08:55, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
Would the "color line", the unwritten rule that blacks and others with darker skin, not have existed without Cap Anson? I know about Anson's prejudices, but there were so many other racists as well. Anson was one of many who opposed integration in baseball and certainly wasn't the only one. Is it possible that some other prejudiced figures in baseball could have played a part in creating the color line as well as Anson? Are there any others who also deserve blame? 108.0.244.168 ( talk) 22:03, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at
Talk:Trevor_Hoffman#Comparison_to_Rivera. There is a discussion on whether it should be said that "most" hold this opinion —
Bagumba (
talk)
00:00, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
I have started a discussion regarding a photo recently added to A. Bartlett Giamatti. Any feedback is welcome. isaacl ( talk) 05:25, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
Everyone is welcome to comment on Mike Capel, who I nominated for featured article status at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Mike Capel/archive2. Thanks. Albacore ( talk) 17:51, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
MLB has an official channel on YouTube called "MLBClassics". There they have some games , like Game 7 of the 2008 ALCS and the Pine Tar Game for example, free to watch any time in full. How can, if we can, use this to better our articles? CRRays Head90 | Get Some! 09:58, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
Can an admin please move John Hellweg to Johnny Hellweg. Thanks.-- Yankees10 16:35, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
{{ Softball Boxscore}} and {{ Softballbox7}} have been nominated for deletion -- 65.94.79.6 ( talk) 00:23, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
Seems non-notable to me but I don't know baseball thresholds of notability. Jrcla2 ( talk) 20:39, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
Deleted as despite the claim of the Baseball Reference Wiki under GNU, they are much more restrictive than Wikipedia, and under a completely different license than us (they have copyleft and we have sharealike). We can't import BR Wiki articles because of that. We have the same situation with Wikinews in which we can't import their articles because they got the same license and the other way around. Secret account 01:00, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
image:KidGleason1919photo.jpg has been nominated for deletion -- 65.94.79.6 ( talk) 10:58, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
What's the proper value for that field on List of Cincinnati Reds no-hitters? Is it 1, or 2? Strictly speaking, two Giants did reach base, but there were never two on at the same time and Bailey only faced one over the minimum. The latter is how I interpreted the field when I first made the update. Someone changed it to 2, and I changed it back, but I'm no longer quite so sure what the correct value is. Green-eyed girl ( Talk · Contribs) 00:10, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
file:Frank Robinson GABP.jpg has been nominated for deletion -- 76.65.128.222 ( talk) 05:24, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
Attendance figures are closely followed by hardcore fans and Wikipedia only has the last 2 years in it's article. That's embarrassingly sparse. That definitely needs to be expanded. Maybe even to all time attendance and an attendance record page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Citylife80 ( talk • contribs) 08:41, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
I know this isn't the right place... but i wanted to vent... I really really really HATE the new visual editor thing.. it's a terrible design and makes editing more difficult. I know you can click on "edit source" and all but i keep clicking the edit button by mistake and get annoyed each time... maybe I'll get used to it but right now it is very frustrating. Spanneraol ( talk) 23:15, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
I just came back from a long vacation to see it implemented... It's strange. But it seems to me one of those "fear of change" things to disapprove of it. I tried adding wiki markup through it and it came out in nowiki brackets, so clearly I'll have to read up on it. – Muboshgu ( talk) 16:10, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
I had a question. I was going to post this on the List of Major League Baseball perfect games page, but thought it might get more input here. After Tim Lincecum's recent no-hitter, I was bummed to see that the tables for no hitters doesn't list the pitch counts. And for perfect games, the pitch count and strikeouts are listed, but not in their own column. It would be nice to be able to sort them by number of pitches, number of strikeouts, etc. etc.. I am more than happy to do the work myself to redo the page. (I'm not one of those people sitting here saying "You should fix this...".) I just wanted to get input. I'm not a huge contributor so I want to make sure that I don't go against the consensus. What do people think? -- Zackmann08 ( talk) 03:23, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
What is the reason for uniform numbers changing more often in baseball than other sports? Players have changed their numbers in other sports, but it seems to happen in baseball more often. In 2012, Stephen Fife originally wore 56 for the Dodgers, but changed to 59 later in the season; and Dylan Axelrod first wore 39 for the White Sox, but changed to 33. In 2011, Francisco Rodriguez changed from 75 to 57, which was the number of Mitch Stetter, who was still on the Major League roster when the Brewers acquired Rodriguez. Can anyone explain this? 108.0.244.168 ( talk) 10:46, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
I'm working on List of Major League Baseball players with 2,000 hits and I'm trying to bring this to featured list status. The numbers at http://mlb.mlb.com/stats/sortable.jsp#elem= mlb.com] give a number for quite a few players that is different than in our current article. Should I follow that list? MLB lists Wagner over Yastrzemski for instance and has Collins with one less hit than our article shows. Albacore ( talk) 21:04, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
Usually, when I do an edit of a ballplayer who has had a respectable career, I throw a "Career stats" section in the article. A couple of time, they've been removed. Personally, I like having them there, and I was wondering why would they would be removed.
I had a thought come to mind, not sure if it's worth pursuing but here goes. I was reading Arthur Irwin and learning about his double life, and just thought about how crazy that was. There's thousands of ballplayers, and many have hidden stories like that. So I thought, let's all write a GA or FA, but try and find the most interesting one. I have a few I've found over the years already to provide examples. There's Eddie Waitkus, whose career was interrupted from being shot by a crazed stalker. There's Bill Henry, who was reported dead in 2007 due to identity theft. If one were to check people who served in WWII there's probably hundreds of stories there. If anyone's interested then we could give it a shot just for fun. If not no big deal. Wizardman 04:12, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
How many hairs does this project typically split? Tonight, the Mariners' manager Eric Wedge was taken to the hospital after dizzy spells in pre-game warmups, and the club were managed by Robby Thompson, the bench coach. Does this necessitate and edit to reflect a "managerial career" on Thompson's article? An edit to {{ Seattle Mariners managers}}? Neither? Both? More? Other things? Green-eyed girl ( Talk · Contribs) 04:45, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
Hunh, I could have sworn manager articles had statistical tables giving yearly wins and losses (like college sports coaches do, for instance Brad Stevens#Head coaching record) but I don't see them there now. Green-eyed girl ( Talk · Contribs) 05:01, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
How about now that he's going to be out for (at least) the better part of 2 weeks? Does this project in any capacity use manager career wins and losses? If so, this needs to be remembered. The Mariners' record for this season will not be the same as Eric Wedge's managerial record. Green-eyed girl ( Talk · Contribs) 01:09, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
Through this way, I inform there is a discussion at WT:Disambiguation about partially disambiguated titles, known as " PDABs". This subguide of WP:D affects articles in this WikiProject, some examples can be found at WP:NC-BASE. There you can give ideas or thoughts about what to do with this guideline. Note this discussion is not to modify any aspect of NCBASE. Thanks. Tbhotch. ™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 00:50, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
As we try to find a way to bring new sports editors to the project, and retraining those editors, I believe we need to expand the scope of the baseball project. We have a good number of baseball editors in Wikipedia, yet it's a extremely disorganized group. If we want our articles to be of high-quality, we need to collaborate as a team. There are plenty of high-class, and players currently on the news articles that is written poorly, while I noticed lately though my watchlist that there are more baseball editors, both as an IP and user, some of whom is trying to provide high-content (see Joey Jay as a recent example, and most of the editors who update current player stats are IPs). I believe a Project Baseball improvement drive, and a A-class review/assessment drive similar to the Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/A-Class review, and maybe a project newsletter. Just about every article writer dream is to write featured content, and the extra feedback from the A-class assessment would help in that goal prior to WP:FAC. We can also attract the NFL (which is completely disorganized and disrepair), college football, ice hockey and basketball Wikiprojects as well to participate in the A-class review and help each other out. What do you think? Thanks Secret account 04:23, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
Ryan Garko, an article that you or your project may be interested in, has been nominated for an individual good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Albacore ( talk) 19:18, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
I have started a discussion on whether SkyDome should be described as the first North American arena, or first North American stadium with a retractable roof. Comments are welcome. isaacl ( talk) 17:13, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
As I understand it, tables such as the one currently in use at Terry Collins are against this project's consensus. Is there any reason why this case would be different (such as Collins having managed in Japan)? AutomaticStrikeout ? 16:43, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Thought everyone here should know about Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kevin Barker, which wasn't even set up properly. Jrcla2 ( talk) 13:28, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
It was tempting to mark this WikiProject as semi-active. I came here thinking I would suggest work on Baseball-related food items, thinking a list, article or perhaps just Category:Baseball-related food might be a notable addition. I eventually discovered Category:Baseball foods already existed, so I added some articles to that category. In the meanwhile I ended up doing some minor repairs to portal-related items, including Portal:Baseball, Portal:Baseball/Categories, Portal:Baseball/Categories and Main topics. I also updated a January 2013(!) baseball portal item at WP:WikiProject Portals/MfD.
Check out my changes to see if they could be improved. And if you all are really semi-active, simplify your portal so its easier to maintain. 67.100.127.192 ( talk) 16:24, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
Hi all! This article could do with a looking at. Pete aka -- Shirt58 ( talk) 04:24, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
Does anyone have a paid membership at Baseball Reference for their Play Index tool? I have a few queries I would like to run, but the free version of their tool omits some of the results. If so, please let me know. Y2Kcrazyjoker4 ( talk • contributions) 00:24, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
Regarding this edit: some Hall of Famers had the number of times they appeared upon the ballot in the infobox, while many did not. An editor has been adding this information to the infobox for a number of players. Is there a consensus view on whether or not this detail is sufficiently important for a summary of a player's key characteristics and so warrants inclusion in the infobox? isaacl ( talk) 15:08, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
I'm glad you did this because I believe this issue needs to be addressed, while I believe that the number of times the Hall of Famer appeared on the ballot is important I want to know the consensus view on this to make things more clear. Thanks ~ -- Phbasketball6 ( talk) 16:31, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
I understand where you are coming from isaacl but it's honestly saying that the percentage of the vote shouldn't be in the infobox either, the percentage of the vote and the year on the ballot correlates with each other like you wouldn't believe. Going back to our buddy Duke Snider, he received 86.49% of the votes on his eleventh ballot, now there's a HUGE different between receiving 86.49% on the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, etc. ballots than the eleventh ballot. Thanks -- Phbasketball6 ( talk) 15:54, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
Orsoni no offense but you must be living under a rock if you think the voting percentage was added recently, unless you count two years ago recent, but maybe if you can make up a section about their Hall of Fame induction and add their year of ballot, votes and percentage and their induction speech that would seem great. Thanks ~ -- Phbasketball6 ( talk) 02:47, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
Is back. A year ago it was deleted after this discussion [5]. I tagged it for speedy delete under G4. The same editor who created it the first time, did it this time also. ...William 21:01, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
I would just like to remind this project of a discussion still happening about re-splitting the section on Game 162. Please go share your opinion. CRRays Head90 | Get Some! 23:15, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
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Okay, so I just created the Wild Card standings templates and...would anyone know how to get the navbar inside the header horizontally? As in, not floating above the table like {{ 2013 AL Wild Card standings}}, but not vertically inside the header row like {{ 2013 AL Central standings}}. Help would be appreciated. Thanks. T C N7JM 18:57, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
Refocusing the question at hand, is there any way that navbar can go in the header row without screwing up the header? {{ 2013 NL West standings}} comes close, but the header is off-center. T C N7JM 20:20, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
{{
Navbar}}
doesn't play nicely with table cells. It looks just fine to have it outside of the table. If having it at the top is distracting, it should go below the table. –
Fredddie
™
22:05, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
Just my opinion, but wildcard standings or anything requiring a daily update, would seem to fall under WP:NOTNEWSPAPER and WP:RECENT. I would think entering "wildcard race" into a search engine would get a lot of sites before listing a Wikipedia page, but that's just a guess on my part. Although Wikipedia does not employ hard-and-fast rules, and if an editor is motivated enough to provide daily updates, then more power to them. Orsoni ( talk) 00:13, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
I posted something earlier about this, but did not receive any consensus with my position so, in the spirit of consensus, I am asking for input again.
I feel WBC info should be included in a player's infobox for the following reasons: 1. Selection to the WBC is like selection to an All-Star game and ASG selections are notable. 2. Much like the FIFA World Cup, it signifies elite status from the country they represent. 3. We already list awards for players in multiple professional leagues (e.g. NPB-MLB), so saying it is only a MLB award infobox is incorrect. 4. We already make note of Olympic medals and similar amateur awards of notability on the international level.
I feel these reasons support inclusion of WBC selections into the infoboxes. Arnabdas ( talk) 21:44, 18 March 2013 (UTC)
Please be aware of this discussion at MOS: Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Dates and numbers#Years; reverts. This discussion grew out of a feature article review for an NBA basketball player Juwan Howard. Before jumping into the discussion, I suggest that you read the relevant MOS section, MOS:YEAR. As I'm sure you can see, this has the potential to significantly change the currently used year span conventions in the MLB player infoboxes. Dirtlawyer1 ( talk) 05:19, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
I am currently involved in a dispute with an editor at Melky Cabrera's page. Cabrera's infobox had listed two WS championships (2009 & 2012) before User:TL565 removed 2012. It had been previously added by an anon user which I reverted, before it was reliably sourced that Cabrera was to receive a WS ring and a full WS financial share, even though he did not make any appeaances in the postseason. Just for my own knowledge, do we list WS championships if a player receives a ring, or is inclusion based on something else? Trut-h-urts man ( T • C) 01:31, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
This is just a thought, but I was wondering what the level of interest would be in doing some sort of Baseball WikiProject Good Article Drive. This could either be done in a competitive format, or just as a collaborative "for the good of the encyclopedia" format, but either way, I think that now would be a good time to start devoting some attention to baseball player articles, especially current players who are entering their first few years of play as people will inevitably come looking to read more about them and if we put together some good articles, readers will be more satisfied. Therefore, I propose that we, as a project, do a good article drive of some kind. I looked at WP:BBAID which was evidently from about four years ago and there is some ground work there to look at if anyone is interested. Thoughts anyone? Go Phightins ! 23:19, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
Great! Well, the project is now set up, so please jump right in and feel free to throw out some names from players in the other five divisions (I suggested some for NL East). Go Phightins ! 02:44, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
The stat_year field included in {{ Infobox baseball player}} would be less misleading if it was called the stat_date field instead. Is there any easy way to change it? AutomaticStrikeout ( T • C • AAPT) 02:37, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
The heading is pretty self-explanatory. I'm not completely sure if I should or should not mark those edits as minor and with Opening Day close, now is a pretty good time to get that cleared up once and for all (hopefully). AutomaticStrikeout ( T • C • AAPT) 03:17, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
I'm currently editing Ellis Valentine's article. There is no picture of him on this article, and I'd like to add the picture of him from his 1981 Topps baseball card. It shows him wearing the batting helmet with the half football face mask that he started wearing after suffering his fractured cheekbone. Anyway, how do I do it without pissing off the wiki-gods? -- 71.54.241.179 ( talk) 23:45, 26 March 2013 (UTC) J.S.
This IP's contributions should probably be monitored. There is a lot of OR coming from there. AutomaticStrikeout ( T • C • AAPT) 20:03, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
file:Fenway Frank.jpg has been nominated for deletion. Is there anything distinctive about Fenway Park hot dogs? -- 65.92.180.137 ( talk) 00:56, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
I'd like to know, from whoever put this parameter on the infobox, where they gained a consensus for the move. I searched the archives here and couldn't find a thread. I must have missed the conversation. Albacore ( talk) 15:49, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
Kudos to everyone who kept that (2013-present) BS out of the infobox during the offseason. That was far less of a problem the 2012-13 offseason than any I remember here. Go Yankees! – Muboshgu ( talk) 17:18, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
file:1920 cub logo.jpg has been nominated for deletion -- 65.92.180.137 ( talk) 02:31, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
Suppose we have a picture of a minor league baseball player. In the picture, the subject is playing for a team affiliated with the Anaheim Angels (their real name). Specifically I am talking about this file: File:Sean Rodriguez - Salt Lake Bees Aug 2009.jpg. Would it be considered under the scope of the Angels task force, since he was in their organization at the time the file was taken, or should it not be tagged as such because the picture does not show him in an Angels uniform? AutomaticStrikeout ( T • C • Sign AAPT) 03:53, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
I've opened a bot request for approval here for a bot to automatically add {{ WikiProject Baseball}} to talk pages of files that are included on pages in baseball-related categories. Your comments are welcome, and any help in assembling a list of categories to prowl through would be great as well! — Theopolisme ( talk) 16:37, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
In general, are College Baseball All-Americans considered worthy enough for an article? At one point, a user went through and added College All-American templates that have a lot of red links. I would like to try to get rid of some of those red links, but I'd rather not create articles if they aren't generally going to pass muster. Alex ( talk) 01:31, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
Can somebody please take a look here and see if you can fix the error that is causing some of the information for Bobby Wallace not to be centered? AutomaticStrikeout ( T • C • Sign AAPT) 20:32, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
Hey guys. I've noticed that a lot of stuff in this project is hardcoded when it could quite easily be otherwise. I propose we create core templates for things such as game logs and standings tables. What I mean by this, if you're not sure, is that we should have one set of templates that we can just add some parameters to and come out with a table. This would reduce the amount of data on a page, which in turn reduces load times, as well as make it much easier to create tables for things that appear everywhere in baseball season articles.
For an example of how this can be done well, look at {{
jctint}}
. With this set of templates, you just type the parameters in and you have an easy list of junctions in a legibly-formatted table for highway articles.
If anyone has time and is experienced in creating templates, I think taking the time to create core templates could be a great benefit to the project. Tell me what you guys think. T C N7JM 03:18, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
{{
Linescore}}
, {{
MLB roster}}
, and {{
MiLB roster}}
. We could use one for game logs and standings. I'll work on the standings one. –
Muboshgu (
talk)
16:31, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
{{
MLB standings}}
, but I'm having an issue with the "if" statements to get the optional parameters (beyond the minimum of four teams of the AL West before 2013). I
tried it out at {{
2012 AL East standings}}
and it works other than that Boston disappears (though I wouldn't necessarily mind that actually happening...). Can anyone proof my work? –
Muboshgu (
talk)
17:08, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
{{MLB standings}}
, you could specify |team1=HOU
and it would output "Houston Astros", etc. –
Fredddie
™
23:43, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
Using {{
MLB standings}}
as a starting point, I created a sandbox Lua module to generate an MLB standings table that will automatically calculate winning percentage and games behind, and can support any number of teams. The syntax I chose is perhaps too concise, so any suggestions for a different syntax is welcome. Here is an example:
{{User:Isaacl/MLB standings |division=American League East |year=2012 |New York Yankees |51|30 |44|37 |Baltimore Orioles |47|34 |46|35 |Tampa Bay Rays |46|35 |44|37 |Toronto Blue Jays |41|40 |32|49 |Boston Red Sox |34|47 |35|46 }}
generates
Team | W | L | Pct. | GB | Home | Road |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
New York Yankees | 95 | 67 | .586 | — | 51–30 | 44–37 |
Baltimore Orioles | 93 | 69 | .574 | 2 | 47–34 | 46–35 |
Tampa Bay Rays | 90 | 72 | .556 | 5 | 46–35 | 44–37 |
Toronto Blue Jays | 73 | 89 | .451 | 22 | 41–40 | 32–49 |
Boston Red Sox | 69 | 93 | .426 | 26 | 34–47 | 35–46 |
Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Baseball/Archive 35
isaacl ( talk) 00:00, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
I've added support for specifying seeds, as is done when the template is included in the season article, such as 2011 Major League Baseball season. This requires a "seeds" argument to be passed through to the helper template. I've also added support for a highlight parameter, to be used when the template is included on a team's season page, such as 2011 Toronto Blue Jays season. See the examples at the bottom of User:Isaacl/MLB standings/testcases. isaacl ( talk) 04:19, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
I've updated Template:MLB standings to use the Lua module Module:MLB standings, as well as the documentation to describe how to use the template in a division standings template, and how the division standings template is used in a team season article and the MLB season article. isaacl ( talk) 02:53, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
I've updated Template:MLB standings so it can be used to generate a division leaders table, as shown on the wild card standings template (such as Template:2012 AL Wild Card standings). See the documentation for details. I haven't figured out the best way to deal with the wild card race: the easy way out would be to require the "games behind" information to be entered in rather than automatically calculated. isaacl ( talk) 18:37, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
|highlight=Baltimore Orioles
isn't working for highlighting. Is this not what I'm supposed to use?
T
C
N7JM
04:35, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
Hey. Could somebody check out what's up at this page? There's, like, a bulleted list in between the navboxes and...it looks weird. T C N7JM 04:58, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
Hello everyone, To those of you signed up to help with the inaugural good article drive already, thank you. If you are not signed up, feel free to do so, or just to pitch in with one or five of the 60 identified articles from improvement which can be found on the drive page linked above. Please sign up for the articles you want to work on just so we can see who is collaborating where. Feel free to team up with others or to tackle them on your own. In any case, Wikipedia readers win by seeing good information on their team's new young players. We really could use your help, so please join us. Thank you very much.
Respectfully yours, Go Phightins ! 02:16, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
An editor claiming to be in contact with Moorad has been making some edits to the article. I've started some discussion threads at Talk:Jeff Moorad that could use other's input.— Bagumba ( talk) 22:31, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
Hi all! About a week ago I filed a bot request for approval for a bot to auto-tag files that are included on baseball related pages (see #Bots_to_auto-tag_files, above). As the bot is going to be approved in the next few days, the next step is for me to get a list of baseball-related categories for the bot to go through -- since I'm not a member of the WikiProject, I thought it would be best to ask all of you for your thoughts. To clarify: I would like a list of categories that contain pages that embed baseball-related images. Thanks, — Theopolisme ( talk) 23:12, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
Hello!
I seem to be the primary editor of the
2013 Philadelphia Phillies season page. As you can see in this article, the schedule template has no place for TV and time.
Would you suggest that I use the colspan feature "spanning" across the Win, Loss, Save, and Attendance fields (as done on
this page), or creating an entirely new column devoted to just this matter, or some other idea?
Ben S. Henderson (
talk)
22:15, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
Regarding this edit at Heath Bell, do we:
I would think it should be "saves leader" (don't hear "saves champion" used as much as "batting champion") and not caps since it's descriptive and not a proper noun. I didn't see any specific guidance at Wikipedia:WikiProject Baseball/Player style advice. Also, I assume saves was not listed as an oversight, as looking at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Baseball/Archive_32#List_of_honors_and_awards and seaching "AL/NL [statistic] champion", it appears most were OK with saves leader being listed in infobox.— Bagumba ( talk) 21:05, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
I'm currently in the midst of cleaning up and adding refs to List of Major League Baseball pitchers who have struck out three batters on nine pitches. I have several questions—Should I keep the game score in the table or should this be removed, since it is completely irrelevant to pitching an immaculate inning (i.e. one great inning does not determine the final score)? And should I include career strikeouts in the table? — Bloom6132 ( talk) 13:17, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
In the game log, how should a game suspension be recorded? (Phillies and Reds are currently suspended at 0–0 in the bottom of the ninth due to heavy rain; play is to be resumed today at 5:30 before tonight's scheduled game.) Should there be a footnote link in next to the score for that game showing that it was suspended until the next day? Ben S. Henderson ( talk) 11:35, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
Could some project members stop by at Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/Theo's Little Bot 3 to review a task affecting baseball articles? Thanks. MBisanz talk 22:07, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
Looking for input regarding infobox stats - recently, I removed the stat ERA+ from Wainwright's infobox, which was re-added by User:Katydidit. I have never seen this stat in a player's infobox before (not even included in career leaders infoboxes Mariano Rivera, Pedro Martinez, Jim Devlin, etc.) though it is mentioned on some of their pages. Personally, I don't think ERA+ should be in any infobox, as it's confusing to the average reader to include traditional ERA and ERA+ in one box, in my opinion. Trut-h-urts man ( T • C) 18:35, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
Hello, I've recently been updating the early Pittsburg Alleghenys seasons and wanted to update the season standings to the current template for using MLB Standings but I can't put alternate text for the link in the division field. I left it disambiguated on this template because I can't point the link for American Association to the correct century. Is there any correction to this or do I have to find a alternative way to display them? Thanks, B2Project (Talk) 06:05, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
We really should get rid of this page or at very least edit it to make clear that the gyroball was a spoof that briefly blew up in the mid 2000s before petering out. If you read the article as it stands, you would believe its actually a real pitch. Py0alb ( talk) 15:10, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
Rather than having a bunch of editors update all of the various templates related to MLB, could a bot be written to do all of the work? Right now, Template:2013 AL Central standings is more updated than Template:2013 AL Wild Card standings and the section at 2013 Minnesota Twins season#Detailed records has no information. I feel like there are enough reliable sources out there that a bot could be written to find all of that information and update the various templates/articles. Ryan Vesey 03:38, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
Not sure if this is the best place to ask, but I was wondering how many of the project members here are interested in helping to start up a baseball task force at Wikidata? AutomaticStrikeout ( T • C • Sign AAPT) 17:50, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
What is the purpose of these? Putting aside my personal hatred of these 'legacy roster' templates, I accept that the baseball project favours such navboxes for championship teams. But honestly, a roster navbox for an inaugural season seems to be neither useful nor desirable. Frankly, I don't see how a navbox for the 1977 Blue Jays is any less arbitrary than the 1982 or 1995 Jays. I'm inclined to TfD the lot, but wanted to gauge the project's viewpoints first. Reso lute 01:08, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
TfD is up here. Reso lute 01:10, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
There is now an IRC channel for collaboration between editors in sports WikiProjects. It's located at #wikipedia-en-sports connect. Cheers, T C N7JM 03:12, 6 May 2013 (UTC).
For those who are unfamilar with IRC, see the guideline on the chat process. Thanks Secret account 04:57, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
The WP:VisualEditor is designed to let people edit without needing to learn wikitext syntax. The articles will look (nearly) the same in the new edit "window" as when you read them (aka WYSIWYG), and changes will show up as you type them, very much like writing a document in a modern word processor. The devs currently expect to deploy the VisualEditor as the new site-wide default editing system in early July 2013.
About 2,000 editors have tried out this early test version so far, and feedback overall has been positive. Right now, the VisualEditor is available only to registered users who opt-in, and it's a bit slow and limited in features. You can do all the basic things like writing or changing sentences, creating or changing section headings, and editing simple bulleted lists. It currently can't either add or remove templates (like fact tags), ref tags, images, categories, or tables (and it will not be turned on for new users until common reference styles and citation templates are supported). These more complex features are being worked on, and the code will be updated as things are worked out. Also, right now you can only use it for articles and user pages. When it's deployed in July, the old editor will still be available and, in fact, the old edit window will be the only option for talk pages (I believe that WP:Notifications (aka Echo) is ultimately supposed to deal with talk pages).
The developers are asking editors like you to join the alpha testing for the VisualEditor. Please go to Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-editing and tick the box at the end of the page, where it says "Enable VisualEditor (only in the main namespace and the User namespace)". Save the preferences, and then try fixing a few typos or copyediting a few articles by using the new "Edit" tab instead of the section [Edit] buttons or the old editing window (which will still be present and still work for you, but which will be renamed "Edit source"). Fix a typo or make some changes, and then click the 'save and review' button (at the top of the page). See what works and what doesn't. We really need people who will try this out on 10 or 15 pages and then leave a note Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback about their experiences, especially if something mission-critical isn't working and doesn't seem to be on anyone's radar.
Also, if any of you are involved in template maintenance or documentation about how to edit pages, the VisualEditor will require some extra attention. The devs want to incorporate things like citation templates directly into the editor, which means that they need to know what information goes in which fields. Obviously, the screenshots and instructions for basic editing will need to be completely updated. The old edit window is not going away, so help pages will likely need to cover both the old and the new.
If you have questions and can't find a better place to ask them, then please feel free to leave a message on my user talk page, and perhaps together we'll be able to figure it out. WhatamIdoing ( talk) 01:09, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
To be grammatically correct, there should be commas after the years in the debut date and final date. You may have seen that that was the way it was for a while after I put in an edit request for that change to be made. However, recently another sysop has removed the commas. I would like to know whether or not you guys think we should have the commas after the years in those two dates. T C N7JM 22:26, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
Just in case it wasn't clear this section of the infobox is being discussed here. - DJSasso ( talk) 19:37, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
I have opened a move request at Patrick Corbin's talk page. Any and all editor opinions would be appreciated. Trut-h-urts man ( T • C) 16:26, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
This new BLP looks like a vandalism-magnet. If notable will need IP protection. In ictu oculi ( talk) 03:13, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
With respect to the MLB Team minor league players articles (i.e. Detroit Tigers minor league players), when we split out a player to his own individual article, I think we have to follow the split procedures ( WP:PROSPLIT) in order to correctly attribute editor contributions per Wikipedia's licensing.
Also, I wouldn't be against eliminating the minor league player articles altogether. Either the player is notable and he has his own article or he isn't. But if we keep them, we should follow the split procedures. — X96lee15 ( talk) 16:11, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
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Over at Talk:Michael Morse. And yes, this time I have notified the other project. Trut-h-urts man ( T • C) 17:51, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
The List of Major League Baseball pitchers who have struck out three batters on nine pitches FLC process is close to being completed and passed. However, since almost all of the comments have come from non-baseball users, I thought it would be great if a set of "expert" eyes from our community could give it a look. I want to ensure nothing is glaringly wrong from a baseball POV. Cheers! — Bloom6132 ( talk) 20:36, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
Please check out this AFD: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/James Rapoport (2nd nomination)-- Yankees10 16:43, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Al Pawlowski. Please help generate discussion. Thanks. Levdr1lostpassword / talk 19:40, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
Given this project's ability to produce Featured Lists, I'd like to see the List of Major League Baseball umpires be of a little more quality. I'd appreciate some help on this article. Some of the things to be done could include adding some pictures, expanding the prose (perhaps to DYK level) and making the list complete. AutomaticStrikeout ? 16:00, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
I suppose this league is notable , but are the individual teams? I came on this from checking the article Baltimore Presstman Cardinals DGG ( talk ) 21:13, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
Mike Trout just did. In updating List of Major League Baseball players to hit for the cycle, I edited the lede to update the number of cycles to 294. Previously it said 293. When going to make the coordinating edit on Hitting for the cycle, I saw that it already had the 294 figure. That article has not, as of this writing, been edited since 8 May. Which figure is correct? Is Trout's the 294th or the 295th? Green-eyed girl ( Talk · Contribs) 04:55, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
While we're on the topic, does this merit mention at all in Trout's article? The only other coverage I've seen is....Bleacher Report.... Green-eyed girl ( Talk · Contribs) 18:03, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
One more while we're on the topic...should "roughly as common as a no-hitter" perhaps be revised to "slightly more common than a no-hitter" ? The two figures are about 8% different. That's not a tiny number. Green-eyed girl ( Talk · Contribs) 18:57, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
Are Category:Wilkes-Barre (minor league baseball) players and Category:Wilkes-Barre Barons (baseball) players referring to the same team? If yes, they need to be merged. If not, there should probably be hatnotes in each. Jrcla2 ( talk) 19:05, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
Could use some other opinions for the lead of Heath Bell at Talk:Heath_Bell#Miami_and_Arizona_in_the_lead.— Bagumba ( talk) 05:38, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
In the past 60 days Tinker to Evers to Chance Baseball's Sad Lexicon set of WP:GAs has been completed. Hats off to Muboshgu ( talk · contribs).-- TonyTheTiger ( T/ C/ BIO/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:FOUR) 14:39, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
Over at Yan Gomes. I've been locked in a revert war with an anon who either does not speak/comprehend English or is choosing to ignore my warnings and discussion. Gomes, with relatively limited major league experience, has played 31 games at catcher, 21 at first base, 8 at third base, and 4 in the outfield (the last time I checked - the count may be off by one game). The anon insists that Gomes is a catcher only, where I have been re-adding the first base and third base positions to his infobox (s/he has now also taken to removing "infielder" from the lead). I blew 3RR probably 10 reverts ago so I would appreciate any editor input on the content dispute and assistance if available. Thanks. Trut-h-urts man ( T • C) 01:37, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
I created Biogenesis of America (surprise it didnt already exist), if anyone wants to expand and nominate it for DYK. I probably won't get to it. The bigger chore might be finding a non-negative hook for it. I imagine another article similar to BALCO scandal is soon to be created also.— Bagumba ( talk) 04:00, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
The Tip O'Neill Award FLC process is close to being finished and passed. One final look from our baseball community would be great. Cheers! — Bloom6132 ( talk) 19:08, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
File:Pythian Baseball Club.jpg has been nominated for deletion -- 65.94.79.6 ( talk) 05:35, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
I am still updating the standing templates to the current format and have ran into another snag for Template:1890 Players' League standings. The issue is how do you disambiguate the the teams if a alternate link would be needed. I looked through the test cases and couldn't find anything. - B2Project (Talk) 07:09, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
I've discovered what looks to be a problem in the MLB Umpire template. In the Adrian Johnson (umpire) article, "Adrian Johnson" is linked to the dab page at the top of the infobox. I don't think this is supposed to be happening.-- Astros4477 ( Talk) 00:38, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
The article about Tris Speaker says that Cap Anson was a member of the Ku Klux Klan, but I have found no historically accurate sources that say he was a Klansman. It says some suspect Ty Cobb as well, but this has not been proven. Is there any proof Anson was in the Klan? 108.0.244.168 ( talk) 08:55, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
Would the "color line", the unwritten rule that blacks and others with darker skin, not have existed without Cap Anson? I know about Anson's prejudices, but there were so many other racists as well. Anson was one of many who opposed integration in baseball and certainly wasn't the only one. Is it possible that some other prejudiced figures in baseball could have played a part in creating the color line as well as Anson? Are there any others who also deserve blame? 108.0.244.168 ( talk) 22:03, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
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I have started a discussion regarding a photo recently added to A. Bartlett Giamatti. Any feedback is welcome. isaacl ( talk) 05:25, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
Everyone is welcome to comment on Mike Capel, who I nominated for featured article status at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Mike Capel/archive2. Thanks. Albacore ( talk) 17:51, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
MLB has an official channel on YouTube called "MLBClassics". There they have some games , like Game 7 of the 2008 ALCS and the Pine Tar Game for example, free to watch any time in full. How can, if we can, use this to better our articles? CRRays Head90 | Get Some! 09:58, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
Can an admin please move John Hellweg to Johnny Hellweg. Thanks.-- Yankees10 16:35, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
{{ Softball Boxscore}} and {{ Softballbox7}} have been nominated for deletion -- 65.94.79.6 ( talk) 00:23, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
Seems non-notable to me but I don't know baseball thresholds of notability. Jrcla2 ( talk) 20:39, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
Deleted as despite the claim of the Baseball Reference Wiki under GNU, they are much more restrictive than Wikipedia, and under a completely different license than us (they have copyleft and we have sharealike). We can't import BR Wiki articles because of that. We have the same situation with Wikinews in which we can't import their articles because they got the same license and the other way around. Secret account 01:00, 30 June 2013 (UTC)
image:KidGleason1919photo.jpg has been nominated for deletion -- 65.94.79.6 ( talk) 10:58, 1 July 2013 (UTC)
What's the proper value for that field on List of Cincinnati Reds no-hitters? Is it 1, or 2? Strictly speaking, two Giants did reach base, but there were never two on at the same time and Bailey only faced one over the minimum. The latter is how I interpreted the field when I first made the update. Someone changed it to 2, and I changed it back, but I'm no longer quite so sure what the correct value is. Green-eyed girl ( Talk · Contribs) 00:10, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
file:Frank Robinson GABP.jpg has been nominated for deletion -- 76.65.128.222 ( talk) 05:24, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
Attendance figures are closely followed by hardcore fans and Wikipedia only has the last 2 years in it's article. That's embarrassingly sparse. That definitely needs to be expanded. Maybe even to all time attendance and an attendance record page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Citylife80 ( talk • contribs) 08:41, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
I know this isn't the right place... but i wanted to vent... I really really really HATE the new visual editor thing.. it's a terrible design and makes editing more difficult. I know you can click on "edit source" and all but i keep clicking the edit button by mistake and get annoyed each time... maybe I'll get used to it but right now it is very frustrating. Spanneraol ( talk) 23:15, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
I just came back from a long vacation to see it implemented... It's strange. But it seems to me one of those "fear of change" things to disapprove of it. I tried adding wiki markup through it and it came out in nowiki brackets, so clearly I'll have to read up on it. – Muboshgu ( talk) 16:10, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
I had a question. I was going to post this on the List of Major League Baseball perfect games page, but thought it might get more input here. After Tim Lincecum's recent no-hitter, I was bummed to see that the tables for no hitters doesn't list the pitch counts. And for perfect games, the pitch count and strikeouts are listed, but not in their own column. It would be nice to be able to sort them by number of pitches, number of strikeouts, etc. etc.. I am more than happy to do the work myself to redo the page. (I'm not one of those people sitting here saying "You should fix this...".) I just wanted to get input. I'm not a huge contributor so I want to make sure that I don't go against the consensus. What do people think? -- Zackmann08 ( talk) 03:23, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
What is the reason for uniform numbers changing more often in baseball than other sports? Players have changed their numbers in other sports, but it seems to happen in baseball more often. In 2012, Stephen Fife originally wore 56 for the Dodgers, but changed to 59 later in the season; and Dylan Axelrod first wore 39 for the White Sox, but changed to 33. In 2011, Francisco Rodriguez changed from 75 to 57, which was the number of Mitch Stetter, who was still on the Major League roster when the Brewers acquired Rodriguez. Can anyone explain this? 108.0.244.168 ( talk) 10:46, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
I'm working on List of Major League Baseball players with 2,000 hits and I'm trying to bring this to featured list status. The numbers at http://mlb.mlb.com/stats/sortable.jsp#elem= mlb.com] give a number for quite a few players that is different than in our current article. Should I follow that list? MLB lists Wagner over Yastrzemski for instance and has Collins with one less hit than our article shows. Albacore ( talk) 21:04, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
Usually, when I do an edit of a ballplayer who has had a respectable career, I throw a "Career stats" section in the article. A couple of time, they've been removed. Personally, I like having them there, and I was wondering why would they would be removed.
I had a thought come to mind, not sure if it's worth pursuing but here goes. I was reading Arthur Irwin and learning about his double life, and just thought about how crazy that was. There's thousands of ballplayers, and many have hidden stories like that. So I thought, let's all write a GA or FA, but try and find the most interesting one. I have a few I've found over the years already to provide examples. There's Eddie Waitkus, whose career was interrupted from being shot by a crazed stalker. There's Bill Henry, who was reported dead in 2007 due to identity theft. If one were to check people who served in WWII there's probably hundreds of stories there. If anyone's interested then we could give it a shot just for fun. If not no big deal. Wizardman 04:12, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
How many hairs does this project typically split? Tonight, the Mariners' manager Eric Wedge was taken to the hospital after dizzy spells in pre-game warmups, and the club were managed by Robby Thompson, the bench coach. Does this necessitate and edit to reflect a "managerial career" on Thompson's article? An edit to {{ Seattle Mariners managers}}? Neither? Both? More? Other things? Green-eyed girl ( Talk · Contribs) 04:45, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
Hunh, I could have sworn manager articles had statistical tables giving yearly wins and losses (like college sports coaches do, for instance Brad Stevens#Head coaching record) but I don't see them there now. Green-eyed girl ( Talk · Contribs) 05:01, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
How about now that he's going to be out for (at least) the better part of 2 weeks? Does this project in any capacity use manager career wins and losses? If so, this needs to be remembered. The Mariners' record for this season will not be the same as Eric Wedge's managerial record. Green-eyed girl ( Talk · Contribs) 01:09, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
Through this way, I inform there is a discussion at WT:Disambiguation about partially disambiguated titles, known as " PDABs". This subguide of WP:D affects articles in this WikiProject, some examples can be found at WP:NC-BASE. There you can give ideas or thoughts about what to do with this guideline. Note this discussion is not to modify any aspect of NCBASE. Thanks. Tbhotch. ™ Grammatically incorrect? Correct it! See terms and conditions. 00:50, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
As we try to find a way to bring new sports editors to the project, and retraining those editors, I believe we need to expand the scope of the baseball project. We have a good number of baseball editors in Wikipedia, yet it's a extremely disorganized group. If we want our articles to be of high-quality, we need to collaborate as a team. There are plenty of high-class, and players currently on the news articles that is written poorly, while I noticed lately though my watchlist that there are more baseball editors, both as an IP and user, some of whom is trying to provide high-content (see Joey Jay as a recent example, and most of the editors who update current player stats are IPs). I believe a Project Baseball improvement drive, and a A-class review/assessment drive similar to the Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/A-Class review, and maybe a project newsletter. Just about every article writer dream is to write featured content, and the extra feedback from the A-class assessment would help in that goal prior to WP:FAC. We can also attract the NFL (which is completely disorganized and disrepair), college football, ice hockey and basketball Wikiprojects as well to participate in the A-class review and help each other out. What do you think? Thanks Secret account 04:23, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
Ryan Garko, an article that you or your project may be interested in, has been nominated for an individual good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Albacore ( talk) 19:18, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
I have started a discussion on whether SkyDome should be described as the first North American arena, or first North American stadium with a retractable roof. Comments are welcome. isaacl ( talk) 17:13, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
As I understand it, tables such as the one currently in use at Terry Collins are against this project's consensus. Is there any reason why this case would be different (such as Collins having managed in Japan)? AutomaticStrikeout ? 16:43, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
Thought everyone here should know about Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kevin Barker, which wasn't even set up properly. Jrcla2 ( talk) 13:28, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
It was tempting to mark this WikiProject as semi-active. I came here thinking I would suggest work on Baseball-related food items, thinking a list, article or perhaps just Category:Baseball-related food might be a notable addition. I eventually discovered Category:Baseball foods already existed, so I added some articles to that category. In the meanwhile I ended up doing some minor repairs to portal-related items, including Portal:Baseball, Portal:Baseball/Categories, Portal:Baseball/Categories and Main topics. I also updated a January 2013(!) baseball portal item at WP:WikiProject Portals/MfD.
Check out my changes to see if they could be improved. And if you all are really semi-active, simplify your portal so its easier to maintain. 67.100.127.192 ( talk) 16:24, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
Hi all! This article could do with a looking at. Pete aka -- Shirt58 ( talk) 04:24, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
Does anyone have a paid membership at Baseball Reference for their Play Index tool? I have a few queries I would like to run, but the free version of their tool omits some of the results. If so, please let me know. Y2Kcrazyjoker4 ( talk • contributions) 00:24, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
Regarding this edit: some Hall of Famers had the number of times they appeared upon the ballot in the infobox, while many did not. An editor has been adding this information to the infobox for a number of players. Is there a consensus view on whether or not this detail is sufficiently important for a summary of a player's key characteristics and so warrants inclusion in the infobox? isaacl ( talk) 15:08, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
I'm glad you did this because I believe this issue needs to be addressed, while I believe that the number of times the Hall of Famer appeared on the ballot is important I want to know the consensus view on this to make things more clear. Thanks ~ -- Phbasketball6 ( talk) 16:31, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
I understand where you are coming from isaacl but it's honestly saying that the percentage of the vote shouldn't be in the infobox either, the percentage of the vote and the year on the ballot correlates with each other like you wouldn't believe. Going back to our buddy Duke Snider, he received 86.49% of the votes on his eleventh ballot, now there's a HUGE different between receiving 86.49% on the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, etc. ballots than the eleventh ballot. Thanks -- Phbasketball6 ( talk) 15:54, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
Orsoni no offense but you must be living under a rock if you think the voting percentage was added recently, unless you count two years ago recent, but maybe if you can make up a section about their Hall of Fame induction and add their year of ballot, votes and percentage and their induction speech that would seem great. Thanks ~ -- Phbasketball6 ( talk) 02:47, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
Is back. A year ago it was deleted after this discussion [5]. I tagged it for speedy delete under G4. The same editor who created it the first time, did it this time also. ...William 21:01, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
I would just like to remind this project of a discussion still happening about re-splitting the section on Game 162. Please go share your opinion. CRRays Head90 | Get Some! 23:15, 13 September 2013 (UTC)