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When I was adding the Hank Aaron Award template to José Bautista's page, I had a thought on how we can handle that unresolved issue of where the page should be located. The page José Bautista exists only as a disambiguator for two individuals, José Bautista (utility player) and José Bautista (pitcher). In cases where there are only two people to distinguish between, we don't need a separate disambiguation page. I think we should move the active player to José Bautista, and keep the journeyman reliever at José Bautista (pitcher). -- Muboshgu ( talk) 04:23, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
As I'm sure you guys know, Hall of Famer Sparky Anderson has been placed under hospice care, and could be near death. I propose that we undergo a collaborative effort and try and get his article at least to GA status. We've done this successfully before, and since he's in the Hall it would certainly be worthy of our time. If nothing else, at least watchlist his article to make sure people aren't trying to add in fase death info. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 16:50, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
I know that, if there are any Giants fans here, they are probably all elated by the World Series, and that's all they want to think about. However, I'm working on an (relatively) old-timer article in my userspace, and if there's a Giants fan who might be interested in helping out (especially a New York Baseball Giants fan, since it's that era), let me know on my talk page. Thanks. — KV5 • Talk • 17:37, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
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I have created together with Smallman12q a toolserver tool that shows a weekly-updated list of cleanup categories for WikiProjects, that can be used as a replacement for WolterBot and this WikiProject is among those that are already included (because it is a member of Category:WolterBot cleanup listing subscriptions). See the tool's wiki page, this project's listing in one big table or by categories and the index of WikiProjects. Svick ( talk) 20:56, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
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The Transhumanist 23:31, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
Could one of our more intrepid, history-minded members take a crack at cleaning this article up? As it stands only this, the 59 tie-breaker (which I've almost finished in my sandbox), the 46 tie-breaker (which Wizardman is nearly done with), and 2 other series are left on our tie-breaker special project. Thanks so much if you can! Staxringold talk contribs 01:46, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
I visited the 1978 Major League Baseball Draft article, and found that it had no intro, and that it wasn't mentioned where or when the draft was held. Same with 1979, 1980, etc. I started to tag these with {{ intromissing}}, but I figured I'd just come here to let the appropriate people know. Instead of tagging every single year. — Timneu22 · talk 15:09, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
As we get into the thick of free agency, I wonder aloud if it might be worth it for the project to create a page of Hot Stove season recommendations or guidelines - a page to which to direct new editors and IPs who add team information to players before deals are finalized and announced. Thoughts? — KV5 • Talk • 21:21, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
P.S. This came about because of Joaquin Benoit, so eyes if you have them. Cheers. — KV5 • Talk • 21:21, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
Is there a policy of when to add a player's team for next season in the infobox? Kingjeff ( talk) 17:03, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
We have a section in Template:MLB Spring Training roster for NRIs, should we also add them to the roster navboxes in place of the inactive section for the duration of the offseason? -- Muboshgu ( talk) 19:42, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
Hey everybody, just a heads-up, I revamped WikiProject Seattle Mariners. It was inactive as far as I could tell so I'll send out a notice to users who were around for the creation of it that I re-did it and if they would like to continue to work on it, it would be wonderful, but it seemed most had lost interest in it. If you would like to join, please do. -- Brian Halvorsen ( talk) 03:56, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
I just played around with Template:MLB roster, Template:MLB Spring Training roster and Template:MiLB roster such that we no longer need to include
as a workaround. They can be removed without affecting appearance. Something similar might work for the teams and awards input lines on Template:Infobox MLB player, but it is locked to non-admins. -- Muboshgu ( talk) 23:50, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
This is a notification to the project about an ongoing discussion: see Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Philadelphia Phillies all-time roster (B)/archive1. An editor, who has previously contested the reliability of Baseball-Reference.com as a source, is now contesting that it does not qualify as a secondary source. Input from project members would be appreciated. Thanks. — KV5 • Talk • 19:22, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
There was a minor revert war with one editor who thinks that the free agent signing wasn't official yet, and even removed any part of the signing. Now the article is protected, can an admin unprotect the page please. Thanks Secret account 01:03, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
There is a discussion going on regarding the sort order of the table in the World Series article that summarizes the team totals. I would welcome additional feedback. Isaac Lin ( talk) 01:46, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
I was finishing uploading the 1933 Goudey cards, when I encountered that article, probably our worst article on a highly important player. I just bought the biography on Amazon 10 min ago and going to start working on it as soon as I get it (I have two projects on my own). But I'm a poor prose writer and I would need help on this. Anyone willing to help me as a group project. Thanks Secret account 05:51, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
Can someone help? I don't want to get cited for 3RR. -- Muboshgu ( talk) 23:14, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
I recently created a page for Ray Cosey whose 9 game major league career consisted of 9 plate appearances as a pinch hitter. Both MLB.com and Baseball-Reference.com list his "position" as pinch hitter. I was surprised to find that the Major League Baseball pinch hitters category was recently deleted here. It was nominated on November 7 with the rationale that "Being a pinch hitter is not really a position". A week later someone voted delete "per nom" with no further explanation and two days after that it was deleted. As far as I could tell, this nomination was never brought to the attention of this WikiProject. In my opinion (and the opinion of MLB and B-R.com), pinch hitter is a position just as much as designated hitter which has its own category. I recreated the category, but I have no way of knowing the pages that used to be in the category before it was deleted. Is there any way to find this out? Kinston eagle ( talk) 02:00, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
This would be totaly over-categorization. Categorizing by action performed in a game is definitely overkill. This would be like having a category for players who hit 4th in the batting order. - DJSasso ( talk) 18:43, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
I left a note for the closing administrator asking to reconsider the deletion. Rlendog ( talk) 18:54, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
John Smith RF
- Smith was the original player in the lineup.a Fred Jones PH-RF
- Jones pinch hit for Smith, then took the field.John Smith RF
- Smith was the original player in the lineup.a Fred Jones PH
- Jones pinch hit for Smith. Bill Brown RF
- Brown took the field for Smith: Jones didn't play RF (or any other fielding position).John Smith RF
- Smith was the original player in the lineup.a Fred Jones PH
- Jones pinch hit for Smith.1 Jack Taylor PR
- Taylor pinch ran for Jones. Bill Brown RF
- Brown took the field for Smith: neither Jones nor Taylor played RF.We've got anonymous IP's changing lots of numbers with no sourcing. I revert to the numbers provided by MLB.com, which is what we consider the only official source of rosters. Should I try to put it up for semi-protection? -- Muboshgu ( talk) 19:51, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
Can someone explain what the misc field in Template:MLB yearly infobox is intended to be used for? Isaac Lin ( talk) 03:35, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
There is an ongoing discussion at Talk:Luke Scott concerning whether his recent controversial statements to the press about Barack Obama and guns are relevant to his article. They were included and sourced and since removed. Kinston eagle ( talk) 22:29, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
Template:Ivy League MLB All-Stars is up for discussion at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2010 December 10.-- TonyTheTiger ( T/ C/ BIO/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:FOUR) 23:19, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
Over the weekend, I noticed that some teams had pages for owners and executives, with all sorts of differing names. I decided to standardize them all, and create new ones for the franchises that didn't have them. They are all here: Category:Lists of Major League Baseball owners and executives. As I was doing this, I noticed that some of the manager pages (maybe 5-10) had info on GMs (but not owners or other executives), and I went ahead boldly and moved the info to those owner and executive pages. This included removing some content from pages that had featured list status. I felt it was for the best, though, to keep our coverage of the thirty franchises uniform, and because field managers and front office personnel should be treated differently. -- Muboshgu ( talk) 20:19, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
Bid Mcphee's page states, "To date, McPhee remains the only member of the American Association (major league, 1882–1891, and the first competitor of the National League) to be elected to Cooperstown." Yet, Tommy McCarthy, elected to the Hall in 1946, played for the St. Louis Browns for 4 seasons in the American Association. (Somewhat interestingly, McCarthy is still the only player in the Hall from the Union Association). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.43.48.149 ( talk) 23:12, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
I could understand an argument that McGraw and Wilbert Robinson do not count, since they were both inducted as managers. Yet, McCarthy was inducted as a player. 199.43.48.149 ( talk) 17:34, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
There's a discussion about various game log templates over at Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2010_December_15#Baseball_game_logs. Thanks! Mhiji ( talk) 11:21, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
Somebody needs to spend some time going over the page on Red Sox no-hitters and fixing all of the bizarre non-facts included there: Jim Fregosi is listed as being the Red Sox manager in 1965, Hideo Nomo and Derek Lowe are described as southpaws, Deacon McGuire (among many other typos) has become McQuire and the grammar and spelling suggest that a young child is responsible for much of the writing and fact-checking. I started to fix things, but the number of errors requires much more time than I have free. 67.172.80.110 ( talk) 15:54, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
If anyone is around, I could use some help in stopping an editor from removing the picture of Kerry Wood as a Cleveland Indian. The article between 20-25k and has two pictures (counting the Indians pic), so this isn't a clutter issue. -- Muboshgu ( talk) 18:51, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
There still seems to be a problem with newly signed player's teams being listed as 2011-present. 2011 sounds weird as we are still in 2010. I have an idea that may help the problem. Instead of writing a year, just write "present" under the team. If the player leaves the team without playing a game, then delete it. When a player finally does play, add the year as "2011-present". I think it is better this way because people will keep trying to add in the season even though the player hasn't played for the new team. As long the player is currently signed but hasn't played, leave team listed with only "present" in the info box. TL565 ( talk) 03:42, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
If anyone wants a place to direct IP editors who keep updating deals early this offseason, here it is:
THIS is why we don't update player pages before physicals are completed and contracts are officially announced by teams. A perfect example for anyone who insists on updating early. — KV5 • Talk • 23:56, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
Someone has been conferring Hall of Fame status on each and every member of the the league. Their infoboxes read that they were "inducted" in 1988. It is my understanding that the league was honored with a display, but they weren't all actually inducted. Kinston eagle ( talk) 01:10, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
I recently changed the intro to Jamie Moyer to say he is a starting pitcher, not a pitcher. I have had this reverted twice and the other editor said I should discuss it here. Of Moyer's 600+ MLB appearances, 91.5% have been as a starter. It seems rather silly to say that because a player has occasionally appeared as a reliever, he can't simply be called a starter.-- TM 14:45, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
I have been working hard on all the rivalry articles. Some of them warrant templates due to key matchups (World Series, LCS) and the multiple articles that are associated with the respective rivalries. I've made them for the Yankees interleague rivalries, but the other ones require more. The articles themselves need severe workup. They are very notable, but have no content in them that show how powerful the rivalries are. The Cardinals-Cubs article comes to mind as well as Dodgers-Giants. We need to get to work on it. Arnabdas ( talk) 15:01, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
I have proposed a merger of Interleague rivalries in Major League Baseball and National League rivalries in Major League Baseball to Major League Baseball rivalries. -- Muboshgu ( talk) 21:36, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
Hi all. I'm in the process of moving the Philadelphia Phillies all-time roster through FLC. At the third FLC, a comment was made by an FL director that perhaps the articles should be linked together by a Phillies template. Although the TOC does link the articles together, I believe the director was looking more along the lines of one of our team templates. Would it be appropriate to add links to the sub-lists to {{ Philadelphia Phillies}}, or is it appropriate the way it is, with the linked main article in the template and the rest linked from the main? — KV5 • Talk • 18:30, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
On another note, I have been changing the introductions of both major and minor league baseball biographies and removing "Major League Baseball X". It seems ridiculous to me that someone can be called a free agent (i.e. not on a team) and still a major league baseball player; moreover, doing so places undue emphasis on Major League Baseball, when essentially every player has played in other leagues. Thoughts?-- TM 14:45, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
This page is in SERIOUS need of attention. I decided I would try to sort these people into one table, but as I took the names to my userspace to play with, I realized just how big a problem this is. This page lists well over 1500 individuals (actually some of these are duplicates, but there's still a shitload). Many of these nicknames are cruft, like Chris Berman-isms (I tried removing those already but there are still more). Sourcing each and every one of these is going to be a bitch. Should we limit this page to only well known nicknames? Or only those listed on BR? How do we do this? -- Muboshgu ( talk) 03:29, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
Since it's the offseason and free agency's dying down, I'm wondering if we could use this time to find an article to collaborate on and bring to GA status. We've been successful at this in the past, so it could work. My thought is we can work on a recent Hall of Hamer to get it to FA by the time they're inaugurated (Alomar, Blyleven, or even Dawson works if we want to go a bit further back). Thoughts? Wizardman Operation Big Bear 04:53, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
I've conducted a GA review of Byron McLaughlin and left it on hold. However, the nominator has not edited in more than two weeks. Are there any other members of the project who might be in a position to address the queries? Brad78 ( talk) 23:55, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
Hard telling who plagiarized who, but the current article and the Sports Illustrated obit are nearly word-for-word the same. ← Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 14:20, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
So that was that for Mike Napoli's stay with the Blue Jays. It's my understanding his infobox should not include the Blue Jays, but another editor questioned me on that since he was on the Jays' active roster at one point. I think we had this discussion a long time ago, but maybe it's good to have a refresher. -- Muboshgu ( talk) 01:25, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
I think we need to analyze which names were used more often in the 1800's. For example, the Chicago Cubs here are listed as the Chicago White Stockings from 1870-1871, then 1874-1889. However, the VERY accurate book, Cubs Journal, a long, Cubs encyclopedia says that for the 1888 season, the team switched to new uniforms, and Black socks, and became known as the Chicago Black Stockings, or the Chicago Black Sox, from 1888-1889, and the White Stockings nickname died out almost immediately. I propose that we change the Cubs article and seasons pages to reflect this, listing them at the Chicago Black Stockings during these years. I also propose that we put some investigation as to what other teams were primarily called during the time period and into the early 1900's. Jntg4Games ( talk) 00:36, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
So you all know, there's another attempt to move the Frank Thomases, at Talk:Frank Thomas (1990s–2000s baseball)#Requested move_2. -- Muboshgu ( talk) 05:26, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
Would anyone like to help make a final strike at one or more of our outstanding Special Projects? I just finally went live with the '59 tie-breaker article so we just have 3 articles left on that (51, Short Heard Round the World, and 78). We also need just 8 more managers lists, 7 more draft pick lists, and 7 more Opening Day pitcher lists (the seasons project is still a ways off). Anybody interested? I may take a shot at a draft pick or managerial list in the next couple days, if so I'll note here which one, anyone else want to lay claim to something they'll work on? Staxringold talk contribs 21:17, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
Did List of Pittsburgh Pirates first-round draft picks in the meantime. Staxringold talk contribs 07:44, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
I have a question. Why are all the Special Projects about Major League Baseball in America? This is WikiProject Baseball not MLB. I know that the MLB is like the most famous league and well known but maybe we should have atleast one special project about something else in baseball like Little League or the Japanese League maybe even Australian baseball. Spongie555 ( talk) 04:38, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
I'm having the book "Major Leagues: The Formation, Sometimes Absorption and Mostly Inevitable Demise of 18 Professional Baseball Organizations, 1871 to Present" delivered this week, and it evaluates 18 successes and attempts at major leagues and has a lot of info that could be added here. How should we accommodate these? they include the NA, NL, International Association (1877-1878, usually considered minor, but actually directly competed with the NL), AA, UA, PL, AL, FL, Continental League (1921), Mexican League (1946-1947?), Continental League (1961), the Global League (1969), and others (need to get the book before I have the full list). So, how should we include and/or list these. This book was written when the United Baseball League was looking to become the 3rd Major League BTW, but it isn't included. Jntg4Games ( talk) 21:56, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
I spent the last couple days revamping the Wikipedia:WikiProject Baseball/Old-time Base Ball task force project page. Not too original, as I used the Cardinals template... which was based off other templates. I am curious to what the Main project thinks about this change, and will welcome any comments regarding how this can be improved. Neonblak talk - 13:51, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
Wow, we have super inaccurate team listings. The book I mentioned two sections up has several newspaper and book sources, and well, it's NAABP Professional Teams list defers greatly from ours. Should I change them? Jntg4Games ( talk) 22:45, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
Are the Louisville Colonels a MLB team? I am interested because according to ESPN the 1889 Louisville Colonels has the longest MLB losing streak record. But our losing streak article lists the Philadelphia Phillies.— Chris! c/ t 03:54, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
There is a discussion in progress about the lead sentence for the World Series article (after the discussion on the disambiguation note). Any comments or feedback is welcome. isaacl ( talk) 17:48, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
The editor Johnandmitchy ( talk · contribs) added File:Andykoscoyankees (2).jpg to Andy Kosco. Since the player is living, and WP:BASEBALL seems to indicate that free images should be sought out for living person, it seems that John's uploaded image does not belong. Should the image be removed? Let me know what the proper approach here is. Erik ( talk | contribs) 04:39, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
Looks like a couple of vandals quick added Charles Radbourn to GA, which needs reversing. I guess I could nominate for delist, but if there is a quicker way......... Neonblak talk - 05:01, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
The 1959 tie-breaker is currently under review and almost done, also. Staxringold talk contribs 21:15, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
An anonymous editor ( User:64.180.212.125) is unlinking the birthplace of baseball players from the main text, claiming that "standard use is to link in infobox only". I reverted a change to Roberto Alomar on Feb 6, stating that "not all mirrors or other users of WP use the infobox material; this needs to be in the text too". This editor has been removing birthplace info from the text nonetheless. Can someone keep an eye on this? Mind matrix 14:54, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
I did some playing around with roster templates for the NFL project and I'd like to bring some of that here. You can see at
Template:NFLplayer that there are additional inputs for status, and I think we should incorporate that into
Template:MLBplayer for things like DL stints and suspensions. So for instance, typing in something like {{MLBplayer|36|Nick Johnson|DL15}} might produce...36 Nick Johnson 15 day DL
There's also the possibility of building in wikilinks to the template, so that all names are automatically linked, with the |d= parameter an optional disambiguator. This could produce a roster that looks like this...
Active roster | Inactive roster | Coaches/Other | |||||||
Pitchers 65 Phil Hughes 46 Andy Pettitte 52 CC Sabathia 31 Javier Vázquez
48 Boone Logan 43 Dámaso Marté 39 Mark Melancon 45 Sergio Mitre 61 Chan Ho Park 30 David Robertson
|
Catchers 29 Francisco Cervelli 20 Jorge Posada
2 Derek Jeter 53 Juan Miranda 19 Ramiro Peña 13 Alex Rodriguez 25 Mark Teixeira
33 Nick Swisher 38 Marcus Thames 22 Randy Winn
|
Pitchers
91 Alfredo Aceves 15 day DL
63 Jonathan Albaladejo 64 Andrew Brackman 68 Wilkin De La Rosa (Susp.)
-- Shane Lindsay 74 Héctor Noesi 41 Iván Nova 47 Rómulo Sánchez
Infielders 76 Reegie Corona 94 Eduardo Núñez 27 Kevin Russo
14 Curtis Granderson 15 day DL
-- Chad Huffman
|
Manager 28 Joe Girardi
(pitching)
57 Mike Harkey (bullpen)
50 Mick Kelleher (first base)
54 Kevin Long (hitting)
56 Tony Peña (bench)
59 Rob Thomson (third base)
|
Thoughts? -- Muboshgu ( talk) 22:19, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
The wikilink idea may be out for now but if there's no objection, I'll make the change to add the DL symbol to the MLBplayer template at some point during Spring Training. --— Muboshgu ( talk) 23:57, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
I just happened upon this list today, what do we think about notability? Already have List of milestone home runs by Barry Bonds which covers his 500 home run club shot, #70, #71, and #73 from that year. Beyond those 4 already covered does the list really merit it's own article? Staxringold talk contribs 17:26, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
Tavix moved the Francisco Rodriguez articles to Francisco Rodríguez (Venezuelan pitcher) and Francisco Rodríguez (Mexican pitcher) and tried to alter the WP:NC-BASE naming guidelines to back up his move.. Our last discussion on this subject was the nationality was not to be used. I reverted his changes to the guidelines but wanted to bring it up here in case something changed, I agree with not using nationality. Spanneraol ( talk) 02:05, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
I've come across another article which I thought the cabal might be interested in. To wit, Fireballer. Some of the material is unsourced (though I expect sources could be found for much of it). Some has copious sourcing -- specifically, that relating to Korean pitchers. I'm not quite sure whether there is an issue here as to whether all the pitchers mentioned are called "fireballers", or are what we would commonly consider fireballers, but thought that I would raise the article here as well for the views of others. Many thanks.-- Epeefleche ( talk) 00:51, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
Hello all, I hope to get help here. I have expanded the article on this Dutch baseball Major League player on nl-wiki a lot and another editor nominated it for review and elections. How ever - there is no picture available on commons so I hope some one here can help me. Thank you in advance for any help. Kind regards, MoiraMoira ( talk) 18:32, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
Just came across this -- List of Major League Baseball records considered unbreakable. Thoughts? If sourced, it would be interesting (to me), but I can't tell for the most part what is sourced and what is OR (and the articles screams out at me "by whom?"). Thought I would run it by the cabal.-- Epeefleche ( talk) 04:28, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
Any even moderately lengthy discussion of MLB history is going to eventually mention the "unbreakable records" (or unachievable feats, to be technically correct); it's part of baseball lore. Wikipedia definitely needs to document the idea in some fashion. The current article simply reiterates the conventional wisdom onthe subject, but definitely needs more sourcing and attribution. So, cleanup, but don't delete. oknazevad ( talk) 13:54, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
A discussion has been recently initiated regarding the future persistent use of {{ Current MLB season}}, {{ Current sport-related}}, and other similar templates on sports team articles. Please join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Current event templates#Premature deprecation of the template for sports team articles. Thanks. Zzyzx11 ( talk) 07:44, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
I was thinking about working on an article about a player with the Doosan Bears, and I noticed that the Bears' team colors that appear in the infobox are apparently left over from an old uniform that is not used anymore. Yellow and blue currently appear in infoboxes on players' articles (see Dustin Nippert, Ko Young-Min, and Son Si-hyun), but the colors are apparently blue and red (see Doosan Bears, Template:Doosan Bears roster). How can that be adjusted? Sanfranciscogiants17 ( talk) 13:20, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
Most other major league sports include minor league and second rate league teams in infoboxes. Why is WP:MLB different?-- TonyTheTiger ( T/ C/ BIO/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:FOUR) 22:46, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
Discussion at Template talk:Infobox MLB player#Height and weight about adding height and weight fields to the MLB player infobox, if others would like to weigh in on it. Spanneraol ( talk) 03:56, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
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When I was adding the Hank Aaron Award template to José Bautista's page, I had a thought on how we can handle that unresolved issue of where the page should be located. The page José Bautista exists only as a disambiguator for two individuals, José Bautista (utility player) and José Bautista (pitcher). In cases where there are only two people to distinguish between, we don't need a separate disambiguation page. I think we should move the active player to José Bautista, and keep the journeyman reliever at José Bautista (pitcher). -- Muboshgu ( talk) 04:23, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
As I'm sure you guys know, Hall of Famer Sparky Anderson has been placed under hospice care, and could be near death. I propose that we undergo a collaborative effort and try and get his article at least to GA status. We've done this successfully before, and since he's in the Hall it would certainly be worthy of our time. If nothing else, at least watchlist his article to make sure people aren't trying to add in fase death info. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 16:50, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
I know that, if there are any Giants fans here, they are probably all elated by the World Series, and that's all they want to think about. However, I'm working on an (relatively) old-timer article in my userspace, and if there's a Giants fan who might be interested in helping out (especially a New York Baseball Giants fan, since it's that era), let me know on my talk page. Thanks. — KV5 • Talk • 17:37, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
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I have created together with Smallman12q a toolserver tool that shows a weekly-updated list of cleanup categories for WikiProjects, that can be used as a replacement for WolterBot and this WikiProject is among those that are already included (because it is a member of Category:WolterBot cleanup listing subscriptions). See the tool's wiki page, this project's listing in one big table or by categories and the index of WikiProjects. Svick ( talk) 20:56, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
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Could one of our more intrepid, history-minded members take a crack at cleaning this article up? As it stands only this, the 59 tie-breaker (which I've almost finished in my sandbox), the 46 tie-breaker (which Wizardman is nearly done with), and 2 other series are left on our tie-breaker special project. Thanks so much if you can! Staxringold talk contribs 01:46, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
I visited the 1978 Major League Baseball Draft article, and found that it had no intro, and that it wasn't mentioned where or when the draft was held. Same with 1979, 1980, etc. I started to tag these with {{ intromissing}}, but I figured I'd just come here to let the appropriate people know. Instead of tagging every single year. — Timneu22 · talk 15:09, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
As we get into the thick of free agency, I wonder aloud if it might be worth it for the project to create a page of Hot Stove season recommendations or guidelines - a page to which to direct new editors and IPs who add team information to players before deals are finalized and announced. Thoughts? — KV5 • Talk • 21:21, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
P.S. This came about because of Joaquin Benoit, so eyes if you have them. Cheers. — KV5 • Talk • 21:21, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
Is there a policy of when to add a player's team for next season in the infobox? Kingjeff ( talk) 17:03, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
We have a section in Template:MLB Spring Training roster for NRIs, should we also add them to the roster navboxes in place of the inactive section for the duration of the offseason? -- Muboshgu ( talk) 19:42, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
Hey everybody, just a heads-up, I revamped WikiProject Seattle Mariners. It was inactive as far as I could tell so I'll send out a notice to users who were around for the creation of it that I re-did it and if they would like to continue to work on it, it would be wonderful, but it seemed most had lost interest in it. If you would like to join, please do. -- Brian Halvorsen ( talk) 03:56, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
I just played around with Template:MLB roster, Template:MLB Spring Training roster and Template:MiLB roster such that we no longer need to include
as a workaround. They can be removed without affecting appearance. Something similar might work for the teams and awards input lines on Template:Infobox MLB player, but it is locked to non-admins. -- Muboshgu ( talk) 23:50, 20 November 2010 (UTC)
This is a notification to the project about an ongoing discussion: see Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/Philadelphia Phillies all-time roster (B)/archive1. An editor, who has previously contested the reliability of Baseball-Reference.com as a source, is now contesting that it does not qualify as a secondary source. Input from project members would be appreciated. Thanks. — KV5 • Talk • 19:22, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
There was a minor revert war with one editor who thinks that the free agent signing wasn't official yet, and even removed any part of the signing. Now the article is protected, can an admin unprotect the page please. Thanks Secret account 01:03, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
There is a discussion going on regarding the sort order of the table in the World Series article that summarizes the team totals. I would welcome additional feedback. Isaac Lin ( talk) 01:46, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
I was finishing uploading the 1933 Goudey cards, when I encountered that article, probably our worst article on a highly important player. I just bought the biography on Amazon 10 min ago and going to start working on it as soon as I get it (I have two projects on my own). But I'm a poor prose writer and I would need help on this. Anyone willing to help me as a group project. Thanks Secret account 05:51, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
Can someone help? I don't want to get cited for 3RR. -- Muboshgu ( talk) 23:14, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
I recently created a page for Ray Cosey whose 9 game major league career consisted of 9 plate appearances as a pinch hitter. Both MLB.com and Baseball-Reference.com list his "position" as pinch hitter. I was surprised to find that the Major League Baseball pinch hitters category was recently deleted here. It was nominated on November 7 with the rationale that "Being a pinch hitter is not really a position". A week later someone voted delete "per nom" with no further explanation and two days after that it was deleted. As far as I could tell, this nomination was never brought to the attention of this WikiProject. In my opinion (and the opinion of MLB and B-R.com), pinch hitter is a position just as much as designated hitter which has its own category. I recreated the category, but I have no way of knowing the pages that used to be in the category before it was deleted. Is there any way to find this out? Kinston eagle ( talk) 02:00, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
This would be totaly over-categorization. Categorizing by action performed in a game is definitely overkill. This would be like having a category for players who hit 4th in the batting order. - DJSasso ( talk) 18:43, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
I left a note for the closing administrator asking to reconsider the deletion. Rlendog ( talk) 18:54, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
John Smith RF
- Smith was the original player in the lineup.a Fred Jones PH-RF
- Jones pinch hit for Smith, then took the field.John Smith RF
- Smith was the original player in the lineup.a Fred Jones PH
- Jones pinch hit for Smith. Bill Brown RF
- Brown took the field for Smith: Jones didn't play RF (or any other fielding position).John Smith RF
- Smith was the original player in the lineup.a Fred Jones PH
- Jones pinch hit for Smith.1 Jack Taylor PR
- Taylor pinch ran for Jones. Bill Brown RF
- Brown took the field for Smith: neither Jones nor Taylor played RF.We've got anonymous IP's changing lots of numbers with no sourcing. I revert to the numbers provided by MLB.com, which is what we consider the only official source of rosters. Should I try to put it up for semi-protection? -- Muboshgu ( talk) 19:51, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
Can someone explain what the misc field in Template:MLB yearly infobox is intended to be used for? Isaac Lin ( talk) 03:35, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
There is an ongoing discussion at Talk:Luke Scott concerning whether his recent controversial statements to the press about Barack Obama and guns are relevant to his article. They were included and sourced and since removed. Kinston eagle ( talk) 22:29, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
Template:Ivy League MLB All-Stars is up for discussion at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2010 December 10.-- TonyTheTiger ( T/ C/ BIO/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:FOUR) 23:19, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
Over the weekend, I noticed that some teams had pages for owners and executives, with all sorts of differing names. I decided to standardize them all, and create new ones for the franchises that didn't have them. They are all here: Category:Lists of Major League Baseball owners and executives. As I was doing this, I noticed that some of the manager pages (maybe 5-10) had info on GMs (but not owners or other executives), and I went ahead boldly and moved the info to those owner and executive pages. This included removing some content from pages that had featured list status. I felt it was for the best, though, to keep our coverage of the thirty franchises uniform, and because field managers and front office personnel should be treated differently. -- Muboshgu ( talk) 20:19, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
Bid Mcphee's page states, "To date, McPhee remains the only member of the American Association (major league, 1882–1891, and the first competitor of the National League) to be elected to Cooperstown." Yet, Tommy McCarthy, elected to the Hall in 1946, played for the St. Louis Browns for 4 seasons in the American Association. (Somewhat interestingly, McCarthy is still the only player in the Hall from the Union Association). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.43.48.149 ( talk) 23:12, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
I could understand an argument that McGraw and Wilbert Robinson do not count, since they were both inducted as managers. Yet, McCarthy was inducted as a player. 199.43.48.149 ( talk) 17:34, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
There's a discussion about various game log templates over at Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2010_December_15#Baseball_game_logs. Thanks! Mhiji ( talk) 11:21, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
Somebody needs to spend some time going over the page on Red Sox no-hitters and fixing all of the bizarre non-facts included there: Jim Fregosi is listed as being the Red Sox manager in 1965, Hideo Nomo and Derek Lowe are described as southpaws, Deacon McGuire (among many other typos) has become McQuire and the grammar and spelling suggest that a young child is responsible for much of the writing and fact-checking. I started to fix things, but the number of errors requires much more time than I have free. 67.172.80.110 ( talk) 15:54, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
If anyone is around, I could use some help in stopping an editor from removing the picture of Kerry Wood as a Cleveland Indian. The article between 20-25k and has two pictures (counting the Indians pic), so this isn't a clutter issue. -- Muboshgu ( talk) 18:51, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
There still seems to be a problem with newly signed player's teams being listed as 2011-present. 2011 sounds weird as we are still in 2010. I have an idea that may help the problem. Instead of writing a year, just write "present" under the team. If the player leaves the team without playing a game, then delete it. When a player finally does play, add the year as "2011-present". I think it is better this way because people will keep trying to add in the season even though the player hasn't played for the new team. As long the player is currently signed but hasn't played, leave team listed with only "present" in the info box. TL565 ( talk) 03:42, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
If anyone wants a place to direct IP editors who keep updating deals early this offseason, here it is:
THIS is why we don't update player pages before physicals are completed and contracts are officially announced by teams. A perfect example for anyone who insists on updating early. — KV5 • Talk • 23:56, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
Someone has been conferring Hall of Fame status on each and every member of the the league. Their infoboxes read that they were "inducted" in 1988. It is my understanding that the league was honored with a display, but they weren't all actually inducted. Kinston eagle ( talk) 01:10, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
I recently changed the intro to Jamie Moyer to say he is a starting pitcher, not a pitcher. I have had this reverted twice and the other editor said I should discuss it here. Of Moyer's 600+ MLB appearances, 91.5% have been as a starter. It seems rather silly to say that because a player has occasionally appeared as a reliever, he can't simply be called a starter.-- TM 14:45, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
I have been working hard on all the rivalry articles. Some of them warrant templates due to key matchups (World Series, LCS) and the multiple articles that are associated with the respective rivalries. I've made them for the Yankees interleague rivalries, but the other ones require more. The articles themselves need severe workup. They are very notable, but have no content in them that show how powerful the rivalries are. The Cardinals-Cubs article comes to mind as well as Dodgers-Giants. We need to get to work on it. Arnabdas ( talk) 15:01, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
I have proposed a merger of Interleague rivalries in Major League Baseball and National League rivalries in Major League Baseball to Major League Baseball rivalries. -- Muboshgu ( talk) 21:36, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
Hi all. I'm in the process of moving the Philadelphia Phillies all-time roster through FLC. At the third FLC, a comment was made by an FL director that perhaps the articles should be linked together by a Phillies template. Although the TOC does link the articles together, I believe the director was looking more along the lines of one of our team templates. Would it be appropriate to add links to the sub-lists to {{ Philadelphia Phillies}}, or is it appropriate the way it is, with the linked main article in the template and the rest linked from the main? — KV5 • Talk • 18:30, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
On another note, I have been changing the introductions of both major and minor league baseball biographies and removing "Major League Baseball X". It seems ridiculous to me that someone can be called a free agent (i.e. not on a team) and still a major league baseball player; moreover, doing so places undue emphasis on Major League Baseball, when essentially every player has played in other leagues. Thoughts?-- TM 14:45, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
This page is in SERIOUS need of attention. I decided I would try to sort these people into one table, but as I took the names to my userspace to play with, I realized just how big a problem this is. This page lists well over 1500 individuals (actually some of these are duplicates, but there's still a shitload). Many of these nicknames are cruft, like Chris Berman-isms (I tried removing those already but there are still more). Sourcing each and every one of these is going to be a bitch. Should we limit this page to only well known nicknames? Or only those listed on BR? How do we do this? -- Muboshgu ( talk) 03:29, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
Since it's the offseason and free agency's dying down, I'm wondering if we could use this time to find an article to collaborate on and bring to GA status. We've been successful at this in the past, so it could work. My thought is we can work on a recent Hall of Hamer to get it to FA by the time they're inaugurated (Alomar, Blyleven, or even Dawson works if we want to go a bit further back). Thoughts? Wizardman Operation Big Bear 04:53, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
I've conducted a GA review of Byron McLaughlin and left it on hold. However, the nominator has not edited in more than two weeks. Are there any other members of the project who might be in a position to address the queries? Brad78 ( talk) 23:55, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
Hard telling who plagiarized who, but the current article and the Sports Illustrated obit are nearly word-for-word the same. ← Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 14:20, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
So that was that for Mike Napoli's stay with the Blue Jays. It's my understanding his infobox should not include the Blue Jays, but another editor questioned me on that since he was on the Jays' active roster at one point. I think we had this discussion a long time ago, but maybe it's good to have a refresher. -- Muboshgu ( talk) 01:25, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
I think we need to analyze which names were used more often in the 1800's. For example, the Chicago Cubs here are listed as the Chicago White Stockings from 1870-1871, then 1874-1889. However, the VERY accurate book, Cubs Journal, a long, Cubs encyclopedia says that for the 1888 season, the team switched to new uniforms, and Black socks, and became known as the Chicago Black Stockings, or the Chicago Black Sox, from 1888-1889, and the White Stockings nickname died out almost immediately. I propose that we change the Cubs article and seasons pages to reflect this, listing them at the Chicago Black Stockings during these years. I also propose that we put some investigation as to what other teams were primarily called during the time period and into the early 1900's. Jntg4Games ( talk) 00:36, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
So you all know, there's another attempt to move the Frank Thomases, at Talk:Frank Thomas (1990s–2000s baseball)#Requested move_2. -- Muboshgu ( talk) 05:26, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
Would anyone like to help make a final strike at one or more of our outstanding Special Projects? I just finally went live with the '59 tie-breaker article so we just have 3 articles left on that (51, Short Heard Round the World, and 78). We also need just 8 more managers lists, 7 more draft pick lists, and 7 more Opening Day pitcher lists (the seasons project is still a ways off). Anybody interested? I may take a shot at a draft pick or managerial list in the next couple days, if so I'll note here which one, anyone else want to lay claim to something they'll work on? Staxringold talk contribs 21:17, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
Did List of Pittsburgh Pirates first-round draft picks in the meantime. Staxringold talk contribs 07:44, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
I have a question. Why are all the Special Projects about Major League Baseball in America? This is WikiProject Baseball not MLB. I know that the MLB is like the most famous league and well known but maybe we should have atleast one special project about something else in baseball like Little League or the Japanese League maybe even Australian baseball. Spongie555 ( talk) 04:38, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
I'm having the book "Major Leagues: The Formation, Sometimes Absorption and Mostly Inevitable Demise of 18 Professional Baseball Organizations, 1871 to Present" delivered this week, and it evaluates 18 successes and attempts at major leagues and has a lot of info that could be added here. How should we accommodate these? they include the NA, NL, International Association (1877-1878, usually considered minor, but actually directly competed with the NL), AA, UA, PL, AL, FL, Continental League (1921), Mexican League (1946-1947?), Continental League (1961), the Global League (1969), and others (need to get the book before I have the full list). So, how should we include and/or list these. This book was written when the United Baseball League was looking to become the 3rd Major League BTW, but it isn't included. Jntg4Games ( talk) 21:56, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
I spent the last couple days revamping the Wikipedia:WikiProject Baseball/Old-time Base Ball task force project page. Not too original, as I used the Cardinals template... which was based off other templates. I am curious to what the Main project thinks about this change, and will welcome any comments regarding how this can be improved. Neonblak talk - 13:51, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
Wow, we have super inaccurate team listings. The book I mentioned two sections up has several newspaper and book sources, and well, it's NAABP Professional Teams list defers greatly from ours. Should I change them? Jntg4Games ( talk) 22:45, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
Are the Louisville Colonels a MLB team? I am interested because according to ESPN the 1889 Louisville Colonels has the longest MLB losing streak record. But our losing streak article lists the Philadelphia Phillies.— Chris! c/ t 03:54, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
There is a discussion in progress about the lead sentence for the World Series article (after the discussion on the disambiguation note). Any comments or feedback is welcome. isaacl ( talk) 17:48, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
The editor Johnandmitchy ( talk · contribs) added File:Andykoscoyankees (2).jpg to Andy Kosco. Since the player is living, and WP:BASEBALL seems to indicate that free images should be sought out for living person, it seems that John's uploaded image does not belong. Should the image be removed? Let me know what the proper approach here is. Erik ( talk | contribs) 04:39, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
Looks like a couple of vandals quick added Charles Radbourn to GA, which needs reversing. I guess I could nominate for delist, but if there is a quicker way......... Neonblak talk - 05:01, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
The 1959 tie-breaker is currently under review and almost done, also. Staxringold talk contribs 21:15, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
An anonymous editor ( User:64.180.212.125) is unlinking the birthplace of baseball players from the main text, claiming that "standard use is to link in infobox only". I reverted a change to Roberto Alomar on Feb 6, stating that "not all mirrors or other users of WP use the infobox material; this needs to be in the text too". This editor has been removing birthplace info from the text nonetheless. Can someone keep an eye on this? Mind matrix 14:54, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
I did some playing around with roster templates for the NFL project and I'd like to bring some of that here. You can see at
Template:NFLplayer that there are additional inputs for status, and I think we should incorporate that into
Template:MLBplayer for things like DL stints and suspensions. So for instance, typing in something like {{MLBplayer|36|Nick Johnson|DL15}} might produce...36 Nick Johnson 15 day DL
There's also the possibility of building in wikilinks to the template, so that all names are automatically linked, with the |d= parameter an optional disambiguator. This could produce a roster that looks like this...
Active roster | Inactive roster | Coaches/Other | |||||||
Pitchers 65 Phil Hughes 46 Andy Pettitte 52 CC Sabathia 31 Javier Vázquez
48 Boone Logan 43 Dámaso Marté 39 Mark Melancon 45 Sergio Mitre 61 Chan Ho Park 30 David Robertson
|
Catchers 29 Francisco Cervelli 20 Jorge Posada
2 Derek Jeter 53 Juan Miranda 19 Ramiro Peña 13 Alex Rodriguez 25 Mark Teixeira
33 Nick Swisher 38 Marcus Thames 22 Randy Winn
|
Pitchers
91 Alfredo Aceves 15 day DL
63 Jonathan Albaladejo 64 Andrew Brackman 68 Wilkin De La Rosa (Susp.)
-- Shane Lindsay 74 Héctor Noesi 41 Iván Nova 47 Rómulo Sánchez
Infielders 76 Reegie Corona 94 Eduardo Núñez 27 Kevin Russo
14 Curtis Granderson 15 day DL
-- Chad Huffman
|
Manager 28 Joe Girardi
(pitching)
57 Mike Harkey (bullpen)
50 Mick Kelleher (first base)
54 Kevin Long (hitting)
56 Tony Peña (bench)
59 Rob Thomson (third base)
|
Thoughts? -- Muboshgu ( talk) 22:19, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
The wikilink idea may be out for now but if there's no objection, I'll make the change to add the DL symbol to the MLBplayer template at some point during Spring Training. --— Muboshgu ( talk) 23:57, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
I just happened upon this list today, what do we think about notability? Already have List of milestone home runs by Barry Bonds which covers his 500 home run club shot, #70, #71, and #73 from that year. Beyond those 4 already covered does the list really merit it's own article? Staxringold talk contribs 17:26, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
Tavix moved the Francisco Rodriguez articles to Francisco Rodríguez (Venezuelan pitcher) and Francisco Rodríguez (Mexican pitcher) and tried to alter the WP:NC-BASE naming guidelines to back up his move.. Our last discussion on this subject was the nationality was not to be used. I reverted his changes to the guidelines but wanted to bring it up here in case something changed, I agree with not using nationality. Spanneraol ( talk) 02:05, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
I've come across another article which I thought the cabal might be interested in. To wit, Fireballer. Some of the material is unsourced (though I expect sources could be found for much of it). Some has copious sourcing -- specifically, that relating to Korean pitchers. I'm not quite sure whether there is an issue here as to whether all the pitchers mentioned are called "fireballers", or are what we would commonly consider fireballers, but thought that I would raise the article here as well for the views of others. Many thanks.-- Epeefleche ( talk) 00:51, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
Hello all, I hope to get help here. I have expanded the article on this Dutch baseball Major League player on nl-wiki a lot and another editor nominated it for review and elections. How ever - there is no picture available on commons so I hope some one here can help me. Thank you in advance for any help. Kind regards, MoiraMoira ( talk) 18:32, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
Just came across this -- List of Major League Baseball records considered unbreakable. Thoughts? If sourced, it would be interesting (to me), but I can't tell for the most part what is sourced and what is OR (and the articles screams out at me "by whom?"). Thought I would run it by the cabal.-- Epeefleche ( talk) 04:28, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
Any even moderately lengthy discussion of MLB history is going to eventually mention the "unbreakable records" (or unachievable feats, to be technically correct); it's part of baseball lore. Wikipedia definitely needs to document the idea in some fashion. The current article simply reiterates the conventional wisdom onthe subject, but definitely needs more sourcing and attribution. So, cleanup, but don't delete. oknazevad ( talk) 13:54, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
A discussion has been recently initiated regarding the future persistent use of {{ Current MLB season}}, {{ Current sport-related}}, and other similar templates on sports team articles. Please join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Current event templates#Premature deprecation of the template for sports team articles. Thanks. Zzyzx11 ( talk) 07:44, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
I was thinking about working on an article about a player with the Doosan Bears, and I noticed that the Bears' team colors that appear in the infobox are apparently left over from an old uniform that is not used anymore. Yellow and blue currently appear in infoboxes on players' articles (see Dustin Nippert, Ko Young-Min, and Son Si-hyun), but the colors are apparently blue and red (see Doosan Bears, Template:Doosan Bears roster). How can that be adjusted? Sanfranciscogiants17 ( talk) 13:20, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
Most other major league sports include minor league and second rate league teams in infoboxes. Why is WP:MLB different?-- TonyTheTiger ( T/ C/ BIO/ WP:CHICAGO/ WP:FOUR) 22:46, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
Discussion at Template talk:Infobox MLB player#Height and weight about adding height and weight fields to the MLB player infobox, if others would like to weigh in on it. Spanneraol ( talk) 03:56, 9 March 2011 (UTC)