I've added this image to AFL finals system as I feel it looks better and is easier to read than the template. I'd be grateful if someone could review it for correctness please. Cheers. -- I@n 01:23, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
How about this User:I@n/2006 AFL finals? -- I@n 09:33, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
If no-one has any objections, I will use User:Daniel.Bryant/Sandbox0 ( subst, so it doesn't matter where it is located) for adding results to the AFL Finals Series 2006 page. Any comments are welcome, and usage of the template can be found on the discussion page for my Sandbox0 (link above). Daniel . Bryant 02:24, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
The style guide says "In tables or ladders, use of shortnames or nicknames or combinations of both are acceptable as follows:". I had thought that the point of the discussion leading to the creation of the style guide was that a few of us didn't want the nicknames used in those contexts, but we didn't get around to discussing it further. I would like to the guide to say that shortnames only shoudl be used. Does anyone object? JPD ( talk) 11:18, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
I have long thought that there was no need for this article, as the history of the club at South Melbourne should be fully covered in the Sydney Swans article. Since noone has really replied my comments whenever I have raised this, I am wililng to go ahead and make the changes. If you object, please say so at Talk:South Melbourne Football Club. On a related matter, I have suggested that Category:Sydney Swans players and Category:Sydney Swans coaches be renamed to reflect the fact that they include old Souths players - please join the discussion at Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Log/2006 September 9#Sydney Swans categories to South Melbourne/Sydney Swans. JPD ( talk) 11:52, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
This issue Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_AFL/Archive_2#Aboriginal_flag.2FState_flags_on_club_pages seems to have come up again. User:Devoindahouse has re-added the national flags to the Carlton Football Club page. I posted some comments on the user's talk page. However, my personal opinion is that they are fine, and consistent with all other sports, especially in light of the AFL's recent decision to include an International Draft (see this link) [1]. If this is the case, however, someone should keep the other clubs lists consistent with the Carlton one.-- Rulesfan 07:16, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
The season articles such as 1897 VFL season have recently been changed so that they all start with something like "Results and statistics for the VFL/AFL season of 1897. Previously, instead of "VFL/AFL", many had the anachronistic Australian Football League or incorrectly linked Victorian Football League. Since each season was in fact either a VFL season or an AFL season, it would be much better in the VFL season articles to say "Victorian Football League, and link to the article about the league. That is, " Victorian Football League". I will make this change unless there are objections. The issue does make me wonder whether the the VFL/AFL article is necessary. The title is a term describing an entity that we already have an article on, which normally would mean a redirect. The only extra info in the article is the VFA/VFL section, which really should be separate anyway, and also is covered in the VFL article. JPD ( talk) 09:15, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
Hi AFL'ers, I know this weekend many of you will be busy :) but I thought some of you may be able to help - I have just replaced the crowds section in Telstra Stadium with a table, and am missing info on AFL matches at the ground pre-reconfiguration. I noticed some games were played there in 2002 AFL season but as reconfiguration lasted from 2001 to 2003 I don't know if these games count as pre-reconfiguration or not. I'm sure some of you would know! Thanks, -- Chuq 13:02, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
What club (not players) stubs should I do now?? can anyone give me an assignment??
Reply to me when you find an assignment
Rakuten06 19:07, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi, currently WikiProject A-League is considering an expansion to cover all football (aka soccer) in Australia. We would probably prefer the name Wikipedia:WikiProject Australian football (soccer), although since AFL's proper name is (I believe) Australian football I just thought I'd check here first to see if anyone has any major objections to the name. We could have a disambig at Wikipedia:WikiProject Australian football as well. – AlbinoMonkey ( Talk) 01:45, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
see R o gerthat's comments above asking for "thoughts on an Australian rules WikiProject, covering things such as football overseas, minor leagues etc.?".
At what point does the notable bit kick in? For example there are some country leagues that are virtually professional and others that are strictly amateur. There also definitely needs to be more work done on the state leagues with an obvious focus on the big three - VFL, SANFL and WAFL. -- Hack 02:32, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
At Talk:2004 AFL Draft an anon user has commented that This article anticipates too much prior knowledge. I got here after hitting "random article". I didn't know what an AFL draft was then, and I still don't now. It seems to involve large spreadsheets. The comment seems a fair call to me. My suggestion would be to provide a short heads-up along the lines of:
which is taken from the start of the main AFL Draft article. Sadly, it would seem that all the various Draft pages would need this added ... I'm prepared to do this minor task unless someone disagrees. I haven't looked to see if any other related lists have the same issue. Pudgey 06:29, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
I agree that with the comments above that VFL/AFL is not really needed — i.e. people would do a Google search for "VFL" and/or "AFL", not for "VFL/AFL" — and it should be a re-direct to the AFL page, since the AFL is the successor of the "Old VFL".
Secondly, I also feel that Victorian Football League should be be moved to something like Victorian Football League (1995) and Victorian Football League should be a disambiguation page, directing people to either the AFL page or, if they are really looking for the "New VFL", to Victorian Football League (1995).
Thirdly, since the new VFL is so different to the VFA, e.g. in terms of teams, the merger with the AFL reserves, etc., I think there should be a separate Victorian Football Association article (covering 1877-1995). (The VFA page is currently a redirect to the "New VFL" article.)
Any comments? Grant65 | Talk 05:03, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
How about something like VFL I and VFL II? Hack 01:25, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
Yes I think the current arrangements should suffice. As I see it the current VFL is a rebadged and expanded VFA. If there is only a small section on VFA in the current VFL page then it needs to be expanded. Hack 07:12, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
I would like to invite all interested editors to have a read of Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Football in Australia) and offer improvements or suggestions on the talk page. Please do not comment about it on this page - I am hoping to centralise discussion in one place! -- Chuq 10:29, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
Beginning cross-post.
End cross-post. Please do not comment more in this section.
Given a lot of people are only putting AFL club details into players infoboxes can we possibly get some sort of consensus on how much detail gets put into the boxes. I would be for all state league experience being included in the infobox. Also the current box looks a bit messy - could we get someone to look at cleaning it up a bit (perhaps more along the lines of the {{ Football player infobox}}).... -- Hack 12:57, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
I think all AFL players should have state league details (where that experience exists) as well as junior club details. If one was to look at the infobox one might conclude their football career only started with their debut at AFL level. The userbox (if this was used) would needed to be adjusted so it is clear that it relates to Australian rules football. -- Hack 09:34, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
If it's crap then edit it. Hack 00:43, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
Can someone have a look at the George Doig article and help redraft it as it seems a blatant lift from the website referenced? I won't get back here for a day or so, and with poor George's death yesterday the page may well be scrutinised. Pudgey 20:07, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
Looks like this project has reached critical mass.
Anyone still interested ? -- Spewmaster 04:59, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
At the moment, these are arranged in a very confusing manner. The 2006 AFL Draft page contains details of the pre-season draft from before 2006 (which occurred in 2005) and then trades and the national draft from before the 2007 season. I know that the AFL gives these drafts specific names: i.e. the 2006 NAB AFL National Draft and the 2006 NAB Pre-season and rookie drafts both occurred before the 2007 season. I believe that it would be best to group drafts into their relevant off-seasons, i.e. a page named 2006/07 AFL Drafts would list all drafts relevant to the 2007 season. This would remove the confusion. Thoughts on this proposal?
Secondly, i think we should be including the rookie draft on the drafts page. With so many players entering the AFL through the rookie system, there should be some reference to the rookie draft so that, for example, one could go back and find out where Bret Thornton or Andrew Carazzo were drafted. Aspirex 09:27, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
Although the AFL material treat the National and Pre-Season Drafts in the way currently shown in Wiki, I'd have to agree with Aspirex - it does seem to make an awful lot more sense, from the point of view of providing information in the clearest way, to have all player selections happening between two seasons listed together (i.e. the 2006 National and 2007 Pre-Season on the same page). Cantiaci 23:34, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
We need some more contributors to Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Football in Australia). There are still more soccer nazis then ruby and football supporters.
Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Football in Australia)
Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Football in Australia)
Krabby me 10:07, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 19:11, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
I'm planning on joining this project, but I'm just curious. Is this project for just AFL based topics? Or for all Australian rules football related articles? Like for instance, the South Australian National Football League? -- Borgarde 05:10, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
I know this is not strictly speaking within the remit of this project but will interest a few here. There are a number of articles linked in the Aussie Rules Playing Nations links template that seriously test the notability criteria for wikipedia. For example the article Australian rules football in the Czech Republic is basically about a single team that doesn't play in regular competition and Australian rules football in Kenya covers a couple of training sessions a couple of years ago. Surely to have an article you'd need to at least have regular competition either at international or club level. Hack 04:00, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi - I and a few others have been working on an article on the
Riverina region. Although in NSW AFL is popular. Trying to track down an authority for the opinion and discussion is at
Talk:Riverina#Football - VFL. There is probably an article in the topic the
Barassi Line which is referenced most notably in Pascoe, Robert (1995). The Winter Game: The Complete History of Australian Football. Melbourne: Text Publishing Company.
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help). Has anybody got the book and can they help? Thanks --
Golden Wattle
talk 21:31, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
A question asked and answered as part of the project quiz but the players article still doesnt have any mention of the persons playing career, and the question its here and the players article is here . Gnan garra 12:08, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
Do we have a list of "articles needed" for players who were SANFL/WAFL/etc stars prior to 1987, or were at several VFL/AFL clubs in roughly equal proportions? For instance, Andrew MacNish was All-Australian in 1986 when he was with Subiaco, was listed by the Eagles in 87, although I can't remember if played any games for them, and later played three games for Geelong. Michael Aish (footballer) was All-Australian with Norwood in 1985 and 1986 but never played with the VFL/AFL.
Maybe we should have a separate list of "articles needed" for All-Australians(?) Grant | Talk 03:10, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
I agree with JPD.
In a sense we have already started on the non-VFL players, with Hall of Famers such as George Doig, Barrie Robran and Stephen Michael.
Aussie rules is unusual in that it took so long for a national comp to emerge and the other leagues were formally equal to the VFL until 1987-1991. Grant | Talk 11:42, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
Also could people not refer to players as former players just because they are not playing AFL.-- Hack 09:11, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
I think they look awful. Collingwood and Sydney's lists look so messy with flags for everyone. This isn't soccer. We don't have a world cup. We don't have an active international player trade system. Peter Bell, Adam Campbell or Kris Massie are never going to play for South Korea, New Zealand or Sweden. Why not put a Brownlow logo next to Brownlow winners... it's just as relevant to the team list as a flag of where they were born. The-Pope 10:17, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
Is this league and it's affiliated teams sufficiently notable for inclusion? They don't seem to meet criteria for creating biographical articles for the participants shown at WP:BIO. Ga rr ie 00:49, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
Hi AFL editors, I'd appreciate it if you could have a look at some of the maps I have done at User:Chuq/Sandbox/Sports maps and let me know what you think! Thanks, -- Chuq 05:30, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
Hi AFL editors.
I noticed that there are two Kelvin Moore articles Kelvin Moore and Kelvin Moore (footballer). What do you think would be the best way of disambiguating them. Should there be a Kelvin Moore disambiguation page with links to Kelvin D Moore and Kelvin ? Moore (the young one). Cheers-- Mattinbgn/ talk 13:30, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
For editors interested in Australian football (the AFL kind), I have drawn up some draft notability guidelines (suggestions?) for leagues, clubs and players that can be found here - User:Mattinbgn/Sandbox - Notability Australian football leagues and clubs If these guidelines or an amended version thereof was gain some level of consensus it would provide some much needed guidance to editors about what article subjects are likely to be seen as notable and hopefully head off a number of WP:AfD debates. To keep all debate in the one location I would ask that comments be kept in the talk page of the draft guideline. All comments and suggestions and changes would be gratefully received. -- Mattinbgn/ talk 09:45, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
Template:2006 AFL season/"Advanced" Ladder has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. — Celticshk Talk 04:25, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
Since AFL's introduction of its new official site (along with the clubs' official pages), the current templates for the AFL player prolifes are all outdated, as they'll now all generate dead links. I don't know how to write/edit templates like those, so I wish someone will update them. Your effort will be appreciated. Thanks. — Celticshk Talk 01:30, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
Any idea why the quiz was deleted? It doesn't seem possible to retrieve it either. - Bricks J. Winzer 10:48, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
Is there a page for the essendon/collingwood anzac day match history or a list of results?-- Dacium 00:33, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
95Collingwood Magpies 17.9 (111) Essendon Bombers 16.15 (111) MCG 94,825 Tuesday, April 25
96Essendon Bombers 16.9 (105) Collingwood Magpies 17.15 (117) MCG 87,549 Thursday, 25 April
97Collingwood Magpies 14.15 (99) Essendon Bombers 10.10 (70) MCG
98Collingwood Magpies 15.18 (108) Essendon Bombers 12.16 (88) MCG 81,542 Saturday, 25 April
99Essendon Bombers 15.18 (108) Collingwood Magpies 15.10 (100) MCG 73,118 Sunday, 25 April
00Collingwood Magpies 15.10 (100) Essendon Bombers 21.14 (140) MCG 88,390 Tuesday, 25 April
01Essendon Bombers 15.13 (103) Collingwood Magpies 14.11 (95) MCG 83,905 Wednesday, 25 April
02Collingwood Magpies 9.12 (66) Essendon Bombers 4.9 (33) MCG 84,894 Thursday, 25 April
03Essendon Bombers 23.9 (147) Collingwood Magpies 12.9 (81) MCG 62,589 Friday, 25 April
04Collingwood Magpies 11.13 (79) Essendon Bombers 17.10 (112) MCG 57,294 Sunday, 25 April
05Essendon Bombers 11.17 (83) Collingwood Magpies 10.9 (69) MCG 70,033 Monday, 25 April
06Collingwood Magpies 15.16 (106) Essendon Bombers 12.17 (89) MCG 91,234 April 25 AFL.com.au
2006 Collingwood 2005 Essendon 2004 Essendon 2003 Essendon 2002 Collingwood 2001 Essendon 2000 Essendon 1999 Essendon 1998 Collingwood 1997 Collingwood 1996 Collingwood 1995 DRAW
Made one earlier today - The Anzac Day clash Crickettragic 09:59 April 25
These probably need amalagamating into one article. Maybe there should be a parent article on Blockbusters and include them all. -- Mattinbgn/ talk 20:51, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
The AFL stub type has become very large; please comment at the stub proposals page if you have any thoughts as to how best to divide it up. Alai 08:29, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
I got the latest(June 2007 edition) of Australian Photography. There story "Who's Controlling What?" has raised a potential problem for adding Photographs from the current season. Whats happened is The AFL has contracted exclusive photographic rights to Geoffry Slatter Publishing, so how does this affect us well it means that commercial photographs can only be obtain via this company, this appears to mean that we cant upload images we take under free licenses as these enable commercial use and may put the photographer along with wikimedia in breach of copyright laws.
The story does indicate that that are some unresolved areas in relation to local print media images but it does exclude stock photo companies like "Getty Images". Gnan garra 01:42, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
Hi, i was thinking about improving the Essendon District Football League coverage on wikipedia by writing articles about every team in the league. Does anyone think this is a good idea? Jones234Jones 07:55, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
Perhaps a summary of the teams on the league page would be a good way to start. Hack 09:49, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
You may be interested to know that many articles on VCFL leagues such as Alberton Football League have been deleted through the PROD process. -- Mattinbgn/ talk 06:27, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
i have noticed on a number of the club articles a "famous fans" section has been added(for an example see the Geelong Football Club article), are these details really suitible for wikipedia? im also apart of WikiProject Baseball and these sections were all removed from Baseball team articles, is anyone against the removal of these sections? -- Dan027 09:33, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
I removed all the sections last night, only one was re-added (West Coast Eagles) i will keep an eye on these articles to make sure they dont get re-added again. -- Dan027 08:10, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
I have nominated (unused) template:AFL Sydney Swans for deletion, as a duplicate of template:AFL Syd. -- DH85868993 04:29, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
I noticed that none of the 1255 tagged articles have been assessed for importance. Valid tags following the "{{WP Australia|afl=yes|" tag are: "afl-importance=top, high, mid, low or no".
I'm suggesting the following as a guide:
Whilst obviously subjective, this may at least provide a start if anyone's inclined to start tagging. — Moondyne 08:39, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
What is the preferred size for the AFL club logos:
150px, 200px, 250px or 300px? --
203.94.135.134 23:32, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
I'm going to go through and add some information on players, and i just want to know the requirements for an article. For example, many players have only played one game. Do these players deserve an entire article? Terlob 03:53, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
Is the section on "internet phenomenon" for Nathan van Berlo neccesary? I'd delete it but I'm a newbie so I thought I should see what others think. -- TheGrantley 07:17, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
It's quite possibly the most unencyclopedic page I have ever seen. Apart from the fact that it look like the potential homepage of his fansite there are a ridiculous amount of pictures. Most of the pics are dodgy anyway as the author claims to have taken them when they have simply been lifted from reuters or some other news agency. Can someone give me a hand fixing it because I fear it this is going to turn into a revert war. Cheers Crickettragic 07:39, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
Perhaps there needs to some protection as it is impossible to stop the mass of dodgy edits that this article is getting. Hack 08:10, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
Following this Afd lead me to consider how AFL Bundaberg-Wide Bay (or any of the other regional Qld league articles) individually meet WP:N or WP:CORP. As someone who is more interested in ensuring all articles address either of those two inclusion guidelines, than AFL itself, I am propsing that all following articles are merged:
The rather clumsy article title I have at the moment is Regional Australian rules football leagues in Queensland. Equally clumsy is Australian rules football leagues in regional Queensland. Either way I have commenced a draft in my user space. If you have any thoughts on my proposal please pitch in at Talk:Australian rules football in Queensland#Merge suggestion.
Ga rr ie 00:19, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
When writing a new article on a player who has a name which is already taken up by someone else, what is prefered - (Australian rules footballer) or just (footballer) after their name? I've been making article for a while now I've been pretty inconsistent, just basically using whichever. Any preferences?
Crickettragic 09:03, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
A problem I've come across sometimes with putting (footballer) is that someone will come across and add a 'Soccer Stub' tag to the article.
Crickettragic 09:12, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
Hi I've noticed that a lot of players have their profiles with the imperial weights and measurements first. As a metirc country the metric system should be first and the imperial system in brackets. I've started re-editing them. Anyone want to help me? 60.230.78.50 07:12, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
As if we don't have too many templates in the club pages as it is, there is now another one that has been added to each club article that links to sections in the page (redundant because of ToC), links to season articles that the club has played in (seems a bit unnecessary), and then lists coach, captain, etc. (redundant because of far-top-right template box). Do we really need these? I would like to get rid of them because they badly clutter the page and dont add anything useful as far as links go. Thoughts? :) Remy B 10:59, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
I've just added OPTIONAL 'image size' and 'image capt' tags to the standard Template:Infobox afl player that is used on many AFL pages. Just add
| image size = | image capt =
to any box to override the default 200px width or add a caption. Hopefully I got the parser functions right - took me a while, but I needed something to take my mind off the Freo debacle. The-Pope 09:15, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
You wouldn't believe it but I had just come to this page to ask everyone about this exact thing!! I've been making alot of past player's articles and their pictures are so bloody massive eg Ron Todd (footballer). Good work mate. Crickettragic 07:27, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
Looking at the Jim Stynes page, I see that someone has possibly gone a bit overboard on the "citations required"s. I understand some citations being good but is this too much? -- TheGrantley 01:04, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
It has recently come to my attention that User:Phaplap who has created dozens of VFL/AFL player articles, has simply copy and pasted word for word their profile from the Fullpointsfooty website eg Don Cordner. Some articles he has created are mentioned on his userpage so if some of you guys could help me in fixing these articles it would be appreciated. By fixing I guess I mean that we can either delete the copy righted material and leave the article's as stubs or just reword them. I've left a message of this bloke's talk page so hopefully no more articles are created in this fashion. Cheers Crickettragic 10:01, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
As above in infoboxes, i have created a new template ( Template:Infobox AFL player). But it has some problems that i can't work out, like some sections not appearing when published on a page and others, so if someone could please take a look at it, that would be much appreciated. Also i've includeed many of the elements that exist in the current one and added a few other details based on the soccer template. Please put youer thoughts and ideas here. Allied45 10:15, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I strongly recommed this project to give your notabilty guidelines for a new notabilty proposal that I'm creating on my userpage, once it is completed, I will move to wikipedia namespace for the community to decide. Thanks Jaranda wat's sup 22:42, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
I don't think this has been covered already but I thought that a series of articles covering a particular year in Australian rules football (eg. 2007 in Australian rules football) that would give brief details of each of the major leagues (VFL/AFL, SANFL, WAFL etc.), awards, births and deaths of famous footballers, interstate matches & anything else that could be of interest, could be a valuable set of pages. What do others think? -- Roisterer 00:36, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
This U18s club in the lower divisions of the Sydney AFL is currently listed for deletion. Please add your comments there. JPD ( talk) 14:12, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
I've created a new ladder that we could use on all the AFL seasons which you can see here. Based on the 2007 ladder, I added the streak column but I'm not sure if we should use it on a uniform ladder template. This will be made into a template afterwards. Beamerized 05:49, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
I've added another version without the streak column and moved the static template links down to the bottom. Beamerized 12:04, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
I reakon we should go with the table without the streak column and include the colours to either distinguish the Top 4 and 8 or just the Top 8. Beamerized 05:48, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
I brought this up when we originally came up with the style guide, but it still appears to be a problem. The season articles still have "Collingwood Magpies" and "Hawthorn Hawks" instead of Collngwood and Hawthorn. The person updating these pages appears to be using an anonymous account (with a constantly changing ip), so it would perhaps be hard to give them a message directing them to the style guide. I'm about a month away myself from having enough time to be able to go through systematically and change the relevant parts, but rather than do all that, is there anyone out there who could perhaps design an automatic bot to go through and do it? If so, this would saeem the best, most efficient way of correcting this problem. Blackmissionary 23:58, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
If someone would like to help out filling in the votes for each game in each round that would be great. The Herald Sun website has a full list of every vote-getter. Beamerized 13:51, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
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For those that haven't already heard Chris Mainwaring passed away last night at home, can editors please add him to their watchlist Gnan garra 04:13, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
I've added this image to AFL finals system as I feel it looks better and is easier to read than the template. I'd be grateful if someone could review it for correctness please. Cheers. -- I@n 01:23, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
How about this User:I@n/2006 AFL finals? -- I@n 09:33, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
If no-one has any objections, I will use User:Daniel.Bryant/Sandbox0 ( subst, so it doesn't matter where it is located) for adding results to the AFL Finals Series 2006 page. Any comments are welcome, and usage of the template can be found on the discussion page for my Sandbox0 (link above). Daniel . Bryant 02:24, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
The style guide says "In tables or ladders, use of shortnames or nicknames or combinations of both are acceptable as follows:". I had thought that the point of the discussion leading to the creation of the style guide was that a few of us didn't want the nicknames used in those contexts, but we didn't get around to discussing it further. I would like to the guide to say that shortnames only shoudl be used. Does anyone object? JPD ( talk) 11:18, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
I have long thought that there was no need for this article, as the history of the club at South Melbourne should be fully covered in the Sydney Swans article. Since noone has really replied my comments whenever I have raised this, I am wililng to go ahead and make the changes. If you object, please say so at Talk:South Melbourne Football Club. On a related matter, I have suggested that Category:Sydney Swans players and Category:Sydney Swans coaches be renamed to reflect the fact that they include old Souths players - please join the discussion at Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Log/2006 September 9#Sydney Swans categories to South Melbourne/Sydney Swans. JPD ( talk) 11:52, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
This issue Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_AFL/Archive_2#Aboriginal_flag.2FState_flags_on_club_pages seems to have come up again. User:Devoindahouse has re-added the national flags to the Carlton Football Club page. I posted some comments on the user's talk page. However, my personal opinion is that they are fine, and consistent with all other sports, especially in light of the AFL's recent decision to include an International Draft (see this link) [1]. If this is the case, however, someone should keep the other clubs lists consistent with the Carlton one.-- Rulesfan 07:16, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
The season articles such as 1897 VFL season have recently been changed so that they all start with something like "Results and statistics for the VFL/AFL season of 1897. Previously, instead of "VFL/AFL", many had the anachronistic Australian Football League or incorrectly linked Victorian Football League. Since each season was in fact either a VFL season or an AFL season, it would be much better in the VFL season articles to say "Victorian Football League, and link to the article about the league. That is, " Victorian Football League". I will make this change unless there are objections. The issue does make me wonder whether the the VFL/AFL article is necessary. The title is a term describing an entity that we already have an article on, which normally would mean a redirect. The only extra info in the article is the VFA/VFL section, which really should be separate anyway, and also is covered in the VFL article. JPD ( talk) 09:15, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
Hi AFL'ers, I know this weekend many of you will be busy :) but I thought some of you may be able to help - I have just replaced the crowds section in Telstra Stadium with a table, and am missing info on AFL matches at the ground pre-reconfiguration. I noticed some games were played there in 2002 AFL season but as reconfiguration lasted from 2001 to 2003 I don't know if these games count as pre-reconfiguration or not. I'm sure some of you would know! Thanks, -- Chuq 13:02, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
What club (not players) stubs should I do now?? can anyone give me an assignment??
Reply to me when you find an assignment
Rakuten06 19:07, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi, currently WikiProject A-League is considering an expansion to cover all football (aka soccer) in Australia. We would probably prefer the name Wikipedia:WikiProject Australian football (soccer), although since AFL's proper name is (I believe) Australian football I just thought I'd check here first to see if anyone has any major objections to the name. We could have a disambig at Wikipedia:WikiProject Australian football as well. – AlbinoMonkey ( Talk) 01:45, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
see R o gerthat's comments above asking for "thoughts on an Australian rules WikiProject, covering things such as football overseas, minor leagues etc.?".
At what point does the notable bit kick in? For example there are some country leagues that are virtually professional and others that are strictly amateur. There also definitely needs to be more work done on the state leagues with an obvious focus on the big three - VFL, SANFL and WAFL. -- Hack 02:32, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
At Talk:2004 AFL Draft an anon user has commented that This article anticipates too much prior knowledge. I got here after hitting "random article". I didn't know what an AFL draft was then, and I still don't now. It seems to involve large spreadsheets. The comment seems a fair call to me. My suggestion would be to provide a short heads-up along the lines of:
which is taken from the start of the main AFL Draft article. Sadly, it would seem that all the various Draft pages would need this added ... I'm prepared to do this minor task unless someone disagrees. I haven't looked to see if any other related lists have the same issue. Pudgey 06:29, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
I agree that with the comments above that VFL/AFL is not really needed — i.e. people would do a Google search for "VFL" and/or "AFL", not for "VFL/AFL" — and it should be a re-direct to the AFL page, since the AFL is the successor of the "Old VFL".
Secondly, I also feel that Victorian Football League should be be moved to something like Victorian Football League (1995) and Victorian Football League should be a disambiguation page, directing people to either the AFL page or, if they are really looking for the "New VFL", to Victorian Football League (1995).
Thirdly, since the new VFL is so different to the VFA, e.g. in terms of teams, the merger with the AFL reserves, etc., I think there should be a separate Victorian Football Association article (covering 1877-1995). (The VFA page is currently a redirect to the "New VFL" article.)
Any comments? Grant65 | Talk 05:03, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
How about something like VFL I and VFL II? Hack 01:25, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
Yes I think the current arrangements should suffice. As I see it the current VFL is a rebadged and expanded VFA. If there is only a small section on VFA in the current VFL page then it needs to be expanded. Hack 07:12, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
I would like to invite all interested editors to have a read of Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Football in Australia) and offer improvements or suggestions on the talk page. Please do not comment about it on this page - I am hoping to centralise discussion in one place! -- Chuq 10:29, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
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Given a lot of people are only putting AFL club details into players infoboxes can we possibly get some sort of consensus on how much detail gets put into the boxes. I would be for all state league experience being included in the infobox. Also the current box looks a bit messy - could we get someone to look at cleaning it up a bit (perhaps more along the lines of the {{ Football player infobox}}).... -- Hack 12:57, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
I think all AFL players should have state league details (where that experience exists) as well as junior club details. If one was to look at the infobox one might conclude their football career only started with their debut at AFL level. The userbox (if this was used) would needed to be adjusted so it is clear that it relates to Australian rules football. -- Hack 09:34, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
If it's crap then edit it. Hack 00:43, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
Can someone have a look at the George Doig article and help redraft it as it seems a blatant lift from the website referenced? I won't get back here for a day or so, and with poor George's death yesterday the page may well be scrutinised. Pudgey 20:07, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
Looks like this project has reached critical mass.
Anyone still interested ? -- Spewmaster 04:59, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
At the moment, these are arranged in a very confusing manner. The 2006 AFL Draft page contains details of the pre-season draft from before 2006 (which occurred in 2005) and then trades and the national draft from before the 2007 season. I know that the AFL gives these drafts specific names: i.e. the 2006 NAB AFL National Draft and the 2006 NAB Pre-season and rookie drafts both occurred before the 2007 season. I believe that it would be best to group drafts into their relevant off-seasons, i.e. a page named 2006/07 AFL Drafts would list all drafts relevant to the 2007 season. This would remove the confusion. Thoughts on this proposal?
Secondly, i think we should be including the rookie draft on the drafts page. With so many players entering the AFL through the rookie system, there should be some reference to the rookie draft so that, for example, one could go back and find out where Bret Thornton or Andrew Carazzo were drafted. Aspirex 09:27, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
Although the AFL material treat the National and Pre-Season Drafts in the way currently shown in Wiki, I'd have to agree with Aspirex - it does seem to make an awful lot more sense, from the point of view of providing information in the clearest way, to have all player selections happening between two seasons listed together (i.e. the 2006 National and 2007 Pre-Season on the same page). Cantiaci 23:34, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
We need some more contributors to Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Football in Australia). There are still more soccer nazis then ruby and football supporters.
Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Football in Australia)
Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Football in Australia)
Krabby me 10:07, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 19:11, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
I'm planning on joining this project, but I'm just curious. Is this project for just AFL based topics? Or for all Australian rules football related articles? Like for instance, the South Australian National Football League? -- Borgarde 05:10, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
I know this is not strictly speaking within the remit of this project but will interest a few here. There are a number of articles linked in the Aussie Rules Playing Nations links template that seriously test the notability criteria for wikipedia. For example the article Australian rules football in the Czech Republic is basically about a single team that doesn't play in regular competition and Australian rules football in Kenya covers a couple of training sessions a couple of years ago. Surely to have an article you'd need to at least have regular competition either at international or club level. Hack 04:00, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi - I and a few others have been working on an article on the
Riverina region. Although in NSW AFL is popular. Trying to track down an authority for the opinion and discussion is at
Talk:Riverina#Football - VFL. There is probably an article in the topic the
Barassi Line which is referenced most notably in Pascoe, Robert (1995). The Winter Game: The Complete History of Australian Football. Melbourne: Text Publishing Company.
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help). Has anybody got the book and can they help? Thanks --
Golden Wattle
talk 21:31, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
A question asked and answered as part of the project quiz but the players article still doesnt have any mention of the persons playing career, and the question its here and the players article is here . Gnan garra 12:08, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
Do we have a list of "articles needed" for players who were SANFL/WAFL/etc stars prior to 1987, or were at several VFL/AFL clubs in roughly equal proportions? For instance, Andrew MacNish was All-Australian in 1986 when he was with Subiaco, was listed by the Eagles in 87, although I can't remember if played any games for them, and later played three games for Geelong. Michael Aish (footballer) was All-Australian with Norwood in 1985 and 1986 but never played with the VFL/AFL.
Maybe we should have a separate list of "articles needed" for All-Australians(?) Grant | Talk 03:10, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
I agree with JPD.
In a sense we have already started on the non-VFL players, with Hall of Famers such as George Doig, Barrie Robran and Stephen Michael.
Aussie rules is unusual in that it took so long for a national comp to emerge and the other leagues were formally equal to the VFL until 1987-1991. Grant | Talk 11:42, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
Also could people not refer to players as former players just because they are not playing AFL.-- Hack 09:11, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
I think they look awful. Collingwood and Sydney's lists look so messy with flags for everyone. This isn't soccer. We don't have a world cup. We don't have an active international player trade system. Peter Bell, Adam Campbell or Kris Massie are never going to play for South Korea, New Zealand or Sweden. Why not put a Brownlow logo next to Brownlow winners... it's just as relevant to the team list as a flag of where they were born. The-Pope 10:17, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
Is this league and it's affiliated teams sufficiently notable for inclusion? They don't seem to meet criteria for creating biographical articles for the participants shown at WP:BIO. Ga rr ie 00:49, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
Hi AFL editors, I'd appreciate it if you could have a look at some of the maps I have done at User:Chuq/Sandbox/Sports maps and let me know what you think! Thanks, -- Chuq 05:30, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
Hi AFL editors.
I noticed that there are two Kelvin Moore articles Kelvin Moore and Kelvin Moore (footballer). What do you think would be the best way of disambiguating them. Should there be a Kelvin Moore disambiguation page with links to Kelvin D Moore and Kelvin ? Moore (the young one). Cheers-- Mattinbgn/ talk 13:30, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
For editors interested in Australian football (the AFL kind), I have drawn up some draft notability guidelines (suggestions?) for leagues, clubs and players that can be found here - User:Mattinbgn/Sandbox - Notability Australian football leagues and clubs If these guidelines or an amended version thereof was gain some level of consensus it would provide some much needed guidance to editors about what article subjects are likely to be seen as notable and hopefully head off a number of WP:AfD debates. To keep all debate in the one location I would ask that comments be kept in the talk page of the draft guideline. All comments and suggestions and changes would be gratefully received. -- Mattinbgn/ talk 09:45, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
Template:2006 AFL season/"Advanced" Ladder has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. — Celticshk Talk 04:25, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
Since AFL's introduction of its new official site (along with the clubs' official pages), the current templates for the AFL player prolifes are all outdated, as they'll now all generate dead links. I don't know how to write/edit templates like those, so I wish someone will update them. Your effort will be appreciated. Thanks. — Celticshk Talk 01:30, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
Any idea why the quiz was deleted? It doesn't seem possible to retrieve it either. - Bricks J. Winzer 10:48, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
Is there a page for the essendon/collingwood anzac day match history or a list of results?-- Dacium 00:33, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
95Collingwood Magpies 17.9 (111) Essendon Bombers 16.15 (111) MCG 94,825 Tuesday, April 25
96Essendon Bombers 16.9 (105) Collingwood Magpies 17.15 (117) MCG 87,549 Thursday, 25 April
97Collingwood Magpies 14.15 (99) Essendon Bombers 10.10 (70) MCG
98Collingwood Magpies 15.18 (108) Essendon Bombers 12.16 (88) MCG 81,542 Saturday, 25 April
99Essendon Bombers 15.18 (108) Collingwood Magpies 15.10 (100) MCG 73,118 Sunday, 25 April
00Collingwood Magpies 15.10 (100) Essendon Bombers 21.14 (140) MCG 88,390 Tuesday, 25 April
01Essendon Bombers 15.13 (103) Collingwood Magpies 14.11 (95) MCG 83,905 Wednesday, 25 April
02Collingwood Magpies 9.12 (66) Essendon Bombers 4.9 (33) MCG 84,894 Thursday, 25 April
03Essendon Bombers 23.9 (147) Collingwood Magpies 12.9 (81) MCG 62,589 Friday, 25 April
04Collingwood Magpies 11.13 (79) Essendon Bombers 17.10 (112) MCG 57,294 Sunday, 25 April
05Essendon Bombers 11.17 (83) Collingwood Magpies 10.9 (69) MCG 70,033 Monday, 25 April
06Collingwood Magpies 15.16 (106) Essendon Bombers 12.17 (89) MCG 91,234 April 25 AFL.com.au
2006 Collingwood 2005 Essendon 2004 Essendon 2003 Essendon 2002 Collingwood 2001 Essendon 2000 Essendon 1999 Essendon 1998 Collingwood 1997 Collingwood 1996 Collingwood 1995 DRAW
Made one earlier today - The Anzac Day clash Crickettragic 09:59 April 25
These probably need amalagamating into one article. Maybe there should be a parent article on Blockbusters and include them all. -- Mattinbgn/ talk 20:51, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
The AFL stub type has become very large; please comment at the stub proposals page if you have any thoughts as to how best to divide it up. Alai 08:29, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
I got the latest(June 2007 edition) of Australian Photography. There story "Who's Controlling What?" has raised a potential problem for adding Photographs from the current season. Whats happened is The AFL has contracted exclusive photographic rights to Geoffry Slatter Publishing, so how does this affect us well it means that commercial photographs can only be obtain via this company, this appears to mean that we cant upload images we take under free licenses as these enable commercial use and may put the photographer along with wikimedia in breach of copyright laws.
The story does indicate that that are some unresolved areas in relation to local print media images but it does exclude stock photo companies like "Getty Images". Gnan garra 01:42, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
Hi, i was thinking about improving the Essendon District Football League coverage on wikipedia by writing articles about every team in the league. Does anyone think this is a good idea? Jones234Jones 07:55, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
Perhaps a summary of the teams on the league page would be a good way to start. Hack 09:49, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
You may be interested to know that many articles on VCFL leagues such as Alberton Football League have been deleted through the PROD process. -- Mattinbgn/ talk 06:27, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
i have noticed on a number of the club articles a "famous fans" section has been added(for an example see the Geelong Football Club article), are these details really suitible for wikipedia? im also apart of WikiProject Baseball and these sections were all removed from Baseball team articles, is anyone against the removal of these sections? -- Dan027 09:33, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
I removed all the sections last night, only one was re-added (West Coast Eagles) i will keep an eye on these articles to make sure they dont get re-added again. -- Dan027 08:10, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
I have nominated (unused) template:AFL Sydney Swans for deletion, as a duplicate of template:AFL Syd. -- DH85868993 04:29, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
I noticed that none of the 1255 tagged articles have been assessed for importance. Valid tags following the "{{WP Australia|afl=yes|" tag are: "afl-importance=top, high, mid, low or no".
I'm suggesting the following as a guide:
Whilst obviously subjective, this may at least provide a start if anyone's inclined to start tagging. — Moondyne 08:39, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
What is the preferred size for the AFL club logos:
150px, 200px, 250px or 300px? --
203.94.135.134 23:32, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
I'm going to go through and add some information on players, and i just want to know the requirements for an article. For example, many players have only played one game. Do these players deserve an entire article? Terlob 03:53, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
Is the section on "internet phenomenon" for Nathan van Berlo neccesary? I'd delete it but I'm a newbie so I thought I should see what others think. -- TheGrantley 07:17, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
It's quite possibly the most unencyclopedic page I have ever seen. Apart from the fact that it look like the potential homepage of his fansite there are a ridiculous amount of pictures. Most of the pics are dodgy anyway as the author claims to have taken them when they have simply been lifted from reuters or some other news agency. Can someone give me a hand fixing it because I fear it this is going to turn into a revert war. Cheers Crickettragic 07:39, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
Perhaps there needs to some protection as it is impossible to stop the mass of dodgy edits that this article is getting. Hack 08:10, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
Following this Afd lead me to consider how AFL Bundaberg-Wide Bay (or any of the other regional Qld league articles) individually meet WP:N or WP:CORP. As someone who is more interested in ensuring all articles address either of those two inclusion guidelines, than AFL itself, I am propsing that all following articles are merged:
The rather clumsy article title I have at the moment is Regional Australian rules football leagues in Queensland. Equally clumsy is Australian rules football leagues in regional Queensland. Either way I have commenced a draft in my user space. If you have any thoughts on my proposal please pitch in at Talk:Australian rules football in Queensland#Merge suggestion.
Ga rr ie 00:19, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
When writing a new article on a player who has a name which is already taken up by someone else, what is prefered - (Australian rules footballer) or just (footballer) after their name? I've been making article for a while now I've been pretty inconsistent, just basically using whichever. Any preferences?
Crickettragic 09:03, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
A problem I've come across sometimes with putting (footballer) is that someone will come across and add a 'Soccer Stub' tag to the article.
Crickettragic 09:12, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
Hi I've noticed that a lot of players have their profiles with the imperial weights and measurements first. As a metirc country the metric system should be first and the imperial system in brackets. I've started re-editing them. Anyone want to help me? 60.230.78.50 07:12, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
As if we don't have too many templates in the club pages as it is, there is now another one that has been added to each club article that links to sections in the page (redundant because of ToC), links to season articles that the club has played in (seems a bit unnecessary), and then lists coach, captain, etc. (redundant because of far-top-right template box). Do we really need these? I would like to get rid of them because they badly clutter the page and dont add anything useful as far as links go. Thoughts? :) Remy B 10:59, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
I've just added OPTIONAL 'image size' and 'image capt' tags to the standard Template:Infobox afl player that is used on many AFL pages. Just add
| image size = | image capt =
to any box to override the default 200px width or add a caption. Hopefully I got the parser functions right - took me a while, but I needed something to take my mind off the Freo debacle. The-Pope 09:15, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
You wouldn't believe it but I had just come to this page to ask everyone about this exact thing!! I've been making alot of past player's articles and their pictures are so bloody massive eg Ron Todd (footballer). Good work mate. Crickettragic 07:27, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
Looking at the Jim Stynes page, I see that someone has possibly gone a bit overboard on the "citations required"s. I understand some citations being good but is this too much? -- TheGrantley 01:04, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
It has recently come to my attention that User:Phaplap who has created dozens of VFL/AFL player articles, has simply copy and pasted word for word their profile from the Fullpointsfooty website eg Don Cordner. Some articles he has created are mentioned on his userpage so if some of you guys could help me in fixing these articles it would be appreciated. By fixing I guess I mean that we can either delete the copy righted material and leave the article's as stubs or just reword them. I've left a message of this bloke's talk page so hopefully no more articles are created in this fashion. Cheers Crickettragic 10:01, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
As above in infoboxes, i have created a new template ( Template:Infobox AFL player). But it has some problems that i can't work out, like some sections not appearing when published on a page and others, so if someone could please take a look at it, that would be much appreciated. Also i've includeed many of the elements that exist in the current one and added a few other details based on the soccer template. Please put youer thoughts and ideas here. Allied45 10:15, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I strongly recommed this project to give your notabilty guidelines for a new notabilty proposal that I'm creating on my userpage, once it is completed, I will move to wikipedia namespace for the community to decide. Thanks Jaranda wat's sup 22:42, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
I don't think this has been covered already but I thought that a series of articles covering a particular year in Australian rules football (eg. 2007 in Australian rules football) that would give brief details of each of the major leagues (VFL/AFL, SANFL, WAFL etc.), awards, births and deaths of famous footballers, interstate matches & anything else that could be of interest, could be a valuable set of pages. What do others think? -- Roisterer 00:36, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
This U18s club in the lower divisions of the Sydney AFL is currently listed for deletion. Please add your comments there. JPD ( talk) 14:12, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
I've created a new ladder that we could use on all the AFL seasons which you can see here. Based on the 2007 ladder, I added the streak column but I'm not sure if we should use it on a uniform ladder template. This will be made into a template afterwards. Beamerized 05:49, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
I've added another version without the streak column and moved the static template links down to the bottom. Beamerized 12:04, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
I reakon we should go with the table without the streak column and include the colours to either distinguish the Top 4 and 8 or just the Top 8. Beamerized 05:48, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
I brought this up when we originally came up with the style guide, but it still appears to be a problem. The season articles still have "Collingwood Magpies" and "Hawthorn Hawks" instead of Collngwood and Hawthorn. The person updating these pages appears to be using an anonymous account (with a constantly changing ip), so it would perhaps be hard to give them a message directing them to the style guide. I'm about a month away myself from having enough time to be able to go through systematically and change the relevant parts, but rather than do all that, is there anyone out there who could perhaps design an automatic bot to go through and do it? If so, this would saeem the best, most efficient way of correcting this problem. Blackmissionary 23:58, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
If someone would like to help out filling in the votes for each game in each round that would be great. The Herald Sun website has a full list of every vote-getter. Beamerized 13:51, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
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For those that haven't already heard Chris Mainwaring passed away last night at home, can editors please add him to their watchlist Gnan garra 04:13, 1 October 2007 (UTC)