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I stumbled onto the Airport infobox when disambiguating RCAF Station Gimli. The article name for the town served by the airport is Gimli, Manitoba (town) (because Gimli, Manitoba refers to the rural municipality). Needless to say, this doesn't look quite right when viewing the infobox on the RCAF Station Gimli article, and it cannot be piped because of the way the template is designed (and the pipe symbol has a different meaning within wiki tables).
I thought I'd mention this problem - not sure if it's worth resolving, though I think the display should be a bit cleaner than that. Mind matrix 01:13, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
city-served = [[Gimli, Manitoba (town)|Gimli]], [[Manitoba]]
location = [[Gimli, Manitoba (town)|Gimli]], [[Manitoba]]
Considering the clean and ergonomic look of many infoboxes these days, this infobox leaves much to be desired. I personally think it is in need of a massive overhaul in order to bring it in standard with many others currently in use for various subject areas, and indeed update the code to take advantage of many new features. I'm willing to undertake this task, but I don't really want to go ahead and do it if it's just gonna be vetoed. So - anyone else agree that some changes would be good? DJR ( T) 00:53, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for mentioning my proposed new {{
Infobox Airport}} template. One reason for the new template as mentioned above is the cleaner look of a single template when editing an article. Another is to incorporate new features without changing the current template. Features include:
Hopefully after adding the other suggested improvements and some further review this can become the new standard infobox for Wikipedia airport articles. -- Zyxw 18:13, 26 February 2007 (UTC) |
I've revised {{
Infobox Airport}} to include parameters for the airport's website and for a footnotes section at the bottom of the infobox. I also incorporated
CambridgeBayWeather's suggestion of having an option to display the metric runway length first, via the new metric-first parameter. For more information, see the updated documentation and examples at
Template:Infobox Airport.
Based on a suggestion from CBW, I've added parameters to display an optional "Statistics" section. Although this was not a part of the standard infobox, a number of airport articles incorporated it adding wiki table markup after the "Runways" section. Examples: Toronto Pearson International Airport with old infobox and the updated page with new infobox. Since these parameters are not yet documented, I'll mention them here:
This currently supports up to four statistics by replacing n with the numbers 1 through 4. The first statistic should always use the stat1-header and stat1-data, as this is what determines whether the "Statistics" section is displayed. A couple of things I'd like input on:
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It looks good and works fine. I think that the changing of the elevation to metres should be on an individual country basis. Right now most countries, as far as I can see, use feet for the elevation and metres for the runway length. With the exception of Poland, who have both feet and meteres, every other European airport has their elevations in feet. But I haven't checked them all. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 13:50, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
Referring to the image in the infobox in Senai International Airport, the default picture is less than 200px. I do not know the actual pixel, so I can't fix it as of in original size. Someone can help make it better? -- Zack2007 14:59, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
{{Airport image|airport_image=Logo-senaiairport.gif|width=}}
In the Airport infoboxes describing runways, I see sod and grass both used to describe surfaces. Are these surfaces the same? -- Zippy 23:17, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
[[
Grass|Turf]]
or [[
Sod|Turf]]
. --
Zyxw
16:22, 28 July 2007 (UTC)Is there any reason why someone needs to use four templates when using this infobox rather than 1 with many parameters? This template should be like other infoboxes and not require the use of other templates. Yonatan talk 09:07, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
Based on the above comments and seeing no dissension I have replaced the "Airport Infobx" with "Infobox Airport". At the same time I have, as you can no doubt see, moved these pages as well. I'm in the process of taking care of the links. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 16:53, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
I just realized that this new infobox doesn't have a Opened param (as in, the year the airport was opened). Was this left out purposely, or just forgotten? I think it's an important piece of info, especially for smaller airports that have an interesting history. Let me know what you think. -- Pilotboi / talk / contribs 17:42, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
For quite some time now, I have always wondered why this template has zero mention on one of its most crucial components besides the runway...the terminal buildings. I would think besides the length of runways, there will be plenty of folks keen to check up on the (official) passenger capacities of airports, sizes od terminals, etc. We already now accomodate figures for traffic figures, and this would complement that well. Considerations to add airport opening dates can be used in the date of the terminal's opening instead. Information appropriate may include:
See Singapore_Changi_Airport#Infrastructure_and_services for an example of this being applied in its own infobox. Would be great to see it becoming part of the main infobox, albeit in a condensed form. What do the rest of you think?-- Huaiwei 07:58, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
What about additional information such as frequencies for communications and ATIS telephone numbers, etc? Possibly just add them as a possible inclusion, and then leave it up to the article editor as to whether they're specified? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dancraggs ( talk • contribs) 01:12, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
I have added a sandbox page (see Template:Infobox Airport/sandbox) for testing any proposed changes, plus a test case page (see Template:Infobox Airport/testcases) for viewing the proposed changes. This is a standard format used by a number of other infoboxes, such as Template:Infobox Person. -- Zyxw 21:48, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
I am currently testing an infobox width of 240px in Template:Infobox Airport/sandbox, the effects of which can be viewed at Template:Infobox Airport/testcases. This would accommodate the recent system-wide changes that cause coordinates to be displayed with a globe icon that links to the new WikiMiniAtlas (i.e. 33°56′33″N 118°24′29″W / 33.94250°N 118.40806°W). For more on that, see the discussions at MediaWiki_talk:Common.js#WikiMiniAtlas, Template talk:Coord and meta:Talk:WikiMiniAtlas. -- Zyxw 22:25, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 1 | Archive 2 | Archive 3 | Archive 4 | Archive 5 | Archive 6 |
I stumbled onto the Airport infobox when disambiguating RCAF Station Gimli. The article name for the town served by the airport is Gimli, Manitoba (town) (because Gimli, Manitoba refers to the rural municipality). Needless to say, this doesn't look quite right when viewing the infobox on the RCAF Station Gimli article, and it cannot be piped because of the way the template is designed (and the pipe symbol has a different meaning within wiki tables).
I thought I'd mention this problem - not sure if it's worth resolving, though I think the display should be a bit cleaner than that. Mind matrix 01:13, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
city-served = [[Gimli, Manitoba (town)|Gimli]], [[Manitoba]]
location = [[Gimli, Manitoba (town)|Gimli]], [[Manitoba]]
Considering the clean and ergonomic look of many infoboxes these days, this infobox leaves much to be desired. I personally think it is in need of a massive overhaul in order to bring it in standard with many others currently in use for various subject areas, and indeed update the code to take advantage of many new features. I'm willing to undertake this task, but I don't really want to go ahead and do it if it's just gonna be vetoed. So - anyone else agree that some changes would be good? DJR ( T) 00:53, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for mentioning my proposed new {{
Infobox Airport}} template. One reason for the new template as mentioned above is the cleaner look of a single template when editing an article. Another is to incorporate new features without changing the current template. Features include:
Hopefully after adding the other suggested improvements and some further review this can become the new standard infobox for Wikipedia airport articles. -- Zyxw 18:13, 26 February 2007 (UTC) |
I've revised {{
Infobox Airport}} to include parameters for the airport's website and for a footnotes section at the bottom of the infobox. I also incorporated
CambridgeBayWeather's suggestion of having an option to display the metric runway length first, via the new metric-first parameter. For more information, see the updated documentation and examples at
Template:Infobox Airport.
Based on a suggestion from CBW, I've added parameters to display an optional "Statistics" section. Although this was not a part of the standard infobox, a number of airport articles incorporated it adding wiki table markup after the "Runways" section. Examples: Toronto Pearson International Airport with old infobox and the updated page with new infobox. Since these parameters are not yet documented, I'll mention them here:
This currently supports up to four statistics by replacing n with the numbers 1 through 4. The first statistic should always use the stat1-header and stat1-data, as this is what determines whether the "Statistics" section is displayed. A couple of things I'd like input on:
|
It looks good and works fine. I think that the changing of the elevation to metres should be on an individual country basis. Right now most countries, as far as I can see, use feet for the elevation and metres for the runway length. With the exception of Poland, who have both feet and meteres, every other European airport has their elevations in feet. But I haven't checked them all. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 13:50, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
Referring to the image in the infobox in Senai International Airport, the default picture is less than 200px. I do not know the actual pixel, so I can't fix it as of in original size. Someone can help make it better? -- Zack2007 14:59, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
{{Airport image|airport_image=Logo-senaiairport.gif|width=}}
In the Airport infoboxes describing runways, I see sod and grass both used to describe surfaces. Are these surfaces the same? -- Zippy 23:17, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
[[
Grass|Turf]]
or [[
Sod|Turf]]
. --
Zyxw
16:22, 28 July 2007 (UTC)Is there any reason why someone needs to use four templates when using this infobox rather than 1 with many parameters? This template should be like other infoboxes and not require the use of other templates. Yonatan talk 09:07, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
Based on the above comments and seeing no dissension I have replaced the "Airport Infobx" with "Infobox Airport". At the same time I have, as you can no doubt see, moved these pages as well. I'm in the process of taking care of the links. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 16:53, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
I just realized that this new infobox doesn't have a Opened param (as in, the year the airport was opened). Was this left out purposely, or just forgotten? I think it's an important piece of info, especially for smaller airports that have an interesting history. Let me know what you think. -- Pilotboi / talk / contribs 17:42, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
For quite some time now, I have always wondered why this template has zero mention on one of its most crucial components besides the runway...the terminal buildings. I would think besides the length of runways, there will be plenty of folks keen to check up on the (official) passenger capacities of airports, sizes od terminals, etc. We already now accomodate figures for traffic figures, and this would complement that well. Considerations to add airport opening dates can be used in the date of the terminal's opening instead. Information appropriate may include:
See Singapore_Changi_Airport#Infrastructure_and_services for an example of this being applied in its own infobox. Would be great to see it becoming part of the main infobox, albeit in a condensed form. What do the rest of you think?-- Huaiwei 07:58, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
What about additional information such as frequencies for communications and ATIS telephone numbers, etc? Possibly just add them as a possible inclusion, and then leave it up to the article editor as to whether they're specified? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dancraggs ( talk • contribs) 01:12, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
I have added a sandbox page (see Template:Infobox Airport/sandbox) for testing any proposed changes, plus a test case page (see Template:Infobox Airport/testcases) for viewing the proposed changes. This is a standard format used by a number of other infoboxes, such as Template:Infobox Person. -- Zyxw 21:48, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
I am currently testing an infobox width of 240px in Template:Infobox Airport/sandbox, the effects of which can be viewed at Template:Infobox Airport/testcases. This would accommodate the recent system-wide changes that cause coordinates to be displayed with a globe icon that links to the new WikiMiniAtlas (i.e. 33°56′33″N 118°24′29″W / 33.94250°N 118.40806°W). For more on that, see the discussions at MediaWiki_talk:Common.js#WikiMiniAtlas, Template talk:Coord and meta:Talk:WikiMiniAtlas. -- Zyxw 22:25, 1 September 2007 (UTC)