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I tried to adjust the "goal" from zero, but it seems to break the template.
The problem is that not all stale drafts listed should be deleted. Not all are necessarily abandoned. The goal of a hard zero creates, or appears to assert, a zero tolerance.
The real problem is NOTWEBHOST and NOTPROMOTION and other WP:NOT violations that represent most of the list. The goal should be the removal of WP:NOT violations, or at least that would be a much more respectable goal. -- SmokeyJoe ( talk) 22:33, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
Yes I mostly agree with you. I don't read a zero goal as a goal to delete all the pages but rather a goal of looking at them all. Most pages benefit from some action (blank, CSD, MfD, promote to draft or main, redirect, and sometimes merge & redirect) but we just remove pages (with no action taken) from the list that exist in the userspace of an active user. Sometimes we bring the pages to the attention of the active user for their optional action. Perhaps you want to add a note to the page rather then trying to change the "goal" as that seems to mess up the page. Legacypac ( talk) 10:46, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
@ Legacypac: and @ Ricky81682:,
We should start this drive back up again. The backlog of stale drafts are clogging up monthly categories and are just taking up space in Wikipedia. This drive was a hit pre 2016 and I propose we reboot it up and advertise it. AmericanAir88 ( talk) 15:00, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
@ Legacypac:, @ Northamerica1000:, and @ Ricky81682:
You are the main people associated with this project. The backlog of stale drafts are clogging up monthly categories and are just taking up space in Wikipedia. This drive was a hit pre 2016 and I propose we reboot it up and advertise it. AmericanAir88 ( talk) 15:05, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
@ Legacypac:, @ Northamerica1000:, and @ Ricky81682: Section 2 is complete! Thanks for the reboot NorthA. Always can count on you. AmericanAir88 ( talk) 23:07, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
Moving to mainspace has always been listed as a posibility with several variations even listed (AfC, Direct move, merge and redirect). Finding good content for mainspace is a key reason to work on this list. Legacypac ( talk) 08:09, 20 February 2019 (UTC)
@ Legacyac:, Should we delete the finished sections? They are empty and have been for a while. AmericanAir88( talk) 16:27, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
I started deleting the section headings like here [1] to make the count easier. We don't need to open sections and delete a few pages at a time now, just work down the list. Blanked pages are still an issue but the pain of counting by section is worse. Legacypac ( talk) 02:52, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
Due to a bot requested, I opened a brfa ( Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/DannyS712 bot 18) to clerk the subpages of this project. The trial for it has started, and comments are welcome. Thanks, -- DannyS712 ( talk) 20:15, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
Hi all! I'm new so bear with me, up to this point I've focused on creating new articles and adding to existing ones. I noticed this project and thought it looked interesting so I had a look through the list last night and tagged some articles for speedy deletion in the belief that I was being helpful. I made a few mistakes:
I tagged a few more userspace drafts using Twinkle, but having re-read the CSD I wasn't sure if the drafts were elegible so I removed the tags. My understanding of the CSD is that the drafts have to have been submitted as AFC AND not edited in the previous 6 months by a human, but some that I tagged and subsequently were deleted did not contain the AFC template. I was wondering if someone could explain the criteria for speedy deletion in the context of this WikiProject? What happens to stale userspace drafts that do not contain the AFC tag? I guess they are left alone? I honestly just want to be helpful, I think this is a perfect example of someone knowing just enough to be dangerous! Ballpointbiro ( talk) 08:20, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
This is the
talk page for discussing improvements to the
WikiProject Abandoned Drafts/Stale drafts page. |
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Abandoned Drafts NA‑class | |||||||
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I tried to adjust the "goal" from zero, but it seems to break the template.
The problem is that not all stale drafts listed should be deleted. Not all are necessarily abandoned. The goal of a hard zero creates, or appears to assert, a zero tolerance.
The real problem is NOTWEBHOST and NOTPROMOTION and other WP:NOT violations that represent most of the list. The goal should be the removal of WP:NOT violations, or at least that would be a much more respectable goal. -- SmokeyJoe ( talk) 22:33, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
Yes I mostly agree with you. I don't read a zero goal as a goal to delete all the pages but rather a goal of looking at them all. Most pages benefit from some action (blank, CSD, MfD, promote to draft or main, redirect, and sometimes merge & redirect) but we just remove pages (with no action taken) from the list that exist in the userspace of an active user. Sometimes we bring the pages to the attention of the active user for their optional action. Perhaps you want to add a note to the page rather then trying to change the "goal" as that seems to mess up the page. Legacypac ( talk) 10:46, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
@ Legacypac: and @ Ricky81682:,
We should start this drive back up again. The backlog of stale drafts are clogging up monthly categories and are just taking up space in Wikipedia. This drive was a hit pre 2016 and I propose we reboot it up and advertise it. AmericanAir88 ( talk) 15:00, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
@ Legacypac:, @ Northamerica1000:, and @ Ricky81682:
You are the main people associated with this project. The backlog of stale drafts are clogging up monthly categories and are just taking up space in Wikipedia. This drive was a hit pre 2016 and I propose we reboot it up and advertise it. AmericanAir88 ( talk) 15:05, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
@ Legacypac:, @ Northamerica1000:, and @ Ricky81682: Section 2 is complete! Thanks for the reboot NorthA. Always can count on you. AmericanAir88 ( talk) 23:07, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
Moving to mainspace has always been listed as a posibility with several variations even listed (AfC, Direct move, merge and redirect). Finding good content for mainspace is a key reason to work on this list. Legacypac ( talk) 08:09, 20 February 2019 (UTC)
@ Legacyac:, Should we delete the finished sections? They are empty and have been for a while. AmericanAir88( talk) 16:27, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
I started deleting the section headings like here [1] to make the count easier. We don't need to open sections and delete a few pages at a time now, just work down the list. Blanked pages are still an issue but the pain of counting by section is worse. Legacypac ( talk) 02:52, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
Due to a bot requested, I opened a brfa ( Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/DannyS712 bot 18) to clerk the subpages of this project. The trial for it has started, and comments are welcome. Thanks, -- DannyS712 ( talk) 20:15, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
Hi all! I'm new so bear with me, up to this point I've focused on creating new articles and adding to existing ones. I noticed this project and thought it looked interesting so I had a look through the list last night and tagged some articles for speedy deletion in the belief that I was being helpful. I made a few mistakes:
I tagged a few more userspace drafts using Twinkle, but having re-read the CSD I wasn't sure if the drafts were elegible so I removed the tags. My understanding of the CSD is that the drafts have to have been submitted as AFC AND not edited in the previous 6 months by a human, but some that I tagged and subsequently were deleted did not contain the AFC template. I was wondering if someone could explain the criteria for speedy deletion in the context of this WikiProject? What happens to stale userspace drafts that do not contain the AFC tag? I guess they are left alone? I honestly just want to be helpful, I think this is a perfect example of someone knowing just enough to be dangerous! Ballpointbiro ( talk) 08:20, 5 March 2021 (UTC)