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Here's a link to the proposal that started all this. Silver seren C 05:30, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
This project could track the articles being worked on and completed by members by using templates somewhat like the ones used by the GoCE backlog elimination drives. This project would keep the tracking indefinitely, and after some number of abandoned drafts completed and moved to main space, barnstars could be awarded. -- DThomsen8 ( talk) 12:14, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
Abandoned Draft tracking example This example would show Gaskets and Learnalot as completed drafts made into mainspace articles, and the Barcelona article being worked on by Dthomsen8.
This is a suggestion to be able to navigate better, by author page. For each author of a page, we make a page for that contributor. ~~ EBE123~~ talk Contribs 21:38, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
This could get complicated, we could end up with ones where the subject fails notability. North8000 ( talk) 11:46, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
Similar to the expressed proposal above: move the drafts at Wikipedia:WikiProject Abandoned Drafts/Drafts/Draftname and if it is definitive not notable then move the draft to Wikipedia:WikiProject Abandoned Drafts/NN/Draftname or so. mabdul 20:08, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
Here's a more general solution, we put a template. It would be for problems like Notability, not, Wikify, and more. It would also categorize it. ~~ Ebe123~~ talk Contribs 15:20, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
I moved a terrible article to my userspace at User:Ryan Vesey/Valasca and organized it a bit so that someone could get enough knowledge to identify the subject and do some research. I also have some external links. I don't have time to improve the article so I was wondering if anyone would like to take it. Ryan Vesey Review me! 16:47, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
I am requesting a graphic for this WikiProject. ~~ Ebe123~~ talk Contribs 18:37, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
![]() | This user is a participant in WikiProject Abandoned Drafts. |
There is now a category at
Category:Stale Userspace drafts which list pages with the {{
userspace draft}} tag that have not been edited for over a year. It's already quite sizable - feel free to pick through it.
Avic
ennasis @ 00:59, 25 Elul 5771 /
00:59, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
Is there a tag to tag suspected abandoned drafts? If the user hasn't edited in a while, tagging with the UW won't do much good. a {{ suspected abandoned draft}} would be good, that self populates a hidden category for that purpose. 76.65.128.132 ( talk) 11:33, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Rollercoaster2428/Robb Alvey is at MfD right now. Please comment as to whether this stale draft has any potential. D O N D E groovily Talk to me 04:39, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
Note: This section is transcluded from the Article's for creation talk page to allow for a single discussion threat rather then having one here and one at AFC.
{{Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation|transcludesection=AFCHFeature}}
So the proposal of Excirial was successful, what you think? Where to place the links? In which kind of format? Newest to the top? On which page? mabdul 12:20, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
User:Nefu Da Boss made one edit in April 2012, creating his/her user page. That page appears to be a user space draft (the user's name is also the name of a rapper, I gather). I've placed this project's donation template on User talk:Nefu Da Boss, but since the editor has not been active since April, I don't foresee any action from him/her. I'm not sure if you all have a policy on taking stale drafts from inactive users, but I thought I'd point the page out to you. Cnilep ( talk) 05:53, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
-- j⚛e decker talk 17:56, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
There is a discussion at Wikipedia talk:Criteria for speedy deletion#Proposed new criterion: abandoned article drafts to determine if a new criteria should be added to WP:CSD for abandoned drafts. 64.40.54.125 ( talk) 14:44, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
This project has been mentioned in a current discussion at WT:Incubator. Unscintillating ( talk) 01:30, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
Given that other editors are much more likely to find a draft of this article (for example):
Wikipedia:WikiProject Abandoned Drafts/Rob Klotz
if it were, instead, here:
I suggest that all of the articles collected by this WikiProject be moved to the new Draft namespace. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 00:57, 21 December 2013 (UTC)
An RfC has been started to propose a Draft feed system. See: Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/RfC to create a 'Special:NewDraftsFeed' system. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 01:33, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
What happens if a Draft is copied to article space rather than just moved. Do we convert it to a redirect or is there speedy delete tag. Peter Rehse ( talk) 17:15, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
I see Category:Stale Userspace drafts has over 40,000 entries so I am pitching in to nominate drafts which are not salvageable for deletion. I am posting this as a courtesy as this WikiProject is mentioned on the category page. Is there a category that one can place these abandoned drafts into when they have usable content and can be reviewed before being moved to an article? PNGWantok ( talk) 09:08, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
Hello there! As you may already know, most WikiProjects here on Wikipedia struggle to stay active after they've been founded. I believe there is a lot of potential for WikiProjects to facilitate collaboration across subject areas, so I have submitted a grant proposal with the Wikimedia Foundation for the "WikiProject X" project. WikiProject X will study what makes WikiProjects succeed in retaining editors and then design a prototype WikiProject system that will recruit contributors to WikiProjects and help them run effectively. Please review the proposal here and leave feedback. If you have any questions, you can ask on the proposal page or leave a message on my talk page. Thank you for your time! (Also, sorry about the posting mistake earlier. If someone already moved my message to the talk page, feel free to remove this posting.) Harej ( talk) 22:47, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
I just thought I would notify anyone who is interested that there is a conversation over at WT:CSD concerning the speedy deletion criteria for abandoned draft/AfC articles. If your are interested, head over there and post your comments. Thanks! 98.74.160.226 ( talk) 05:19, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
Hello everyone!
You may have received a message from me earlier asking you to comment on my WikiProject X proposal. The good news is that WikiProject X is now live! In our first phase, we are focusing on research. At this time, we are looking for people to share their experiences with WikiProjects: good, bad, or neutral. We are also looking for WikiProjects that may be interested in trying out new tools and layouts that will make participating easier and projects easier to maintain. If you or your WikiProject are interested, check us out! Note that this is an opt-in program; no WikiProject will be required to change anything against its wishes. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thank you!
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Harej ( talk) 16:56, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
It has been proposed at WT:CSD that a four day delay period (between tagging and deletion) be introduced for deletions of abandoned drafts under CSD G13. This enables interested users to review these drafts and untag the ones that are salvagable. 103.6.159.179 ( talk) 09:22, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
Category:Stale userspace drafts now has ~47k pages in it. I'm going to try to skim this down (finding ownerless pages, short, no-content pages, etc) but any help is appreciated. Also, any ideas on how to make maintenance on this category easy in the future? Avic ennasis @ 06:15, 15 Av 5775 / 06:15, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
Wikipedia:WikiProject Abandoned Drafts/Stale drafts is complete. There's 46,635 there (about 20 more than when I started), so some work to do. Plenty of abandoned articles to find. -- Ricky81682 ( talk) 07:53, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
I find it semi-ironic that this project doesn't use the Drafts category so all drafts are located at Category:NA-Class Abandoned Drafts articles. Would people support moving drafts to a separate draft category? -- Ricky81682 ( talk) 10:38, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
Hi, I'm trying to formulate a bot request at Wikipedia:Bot_requests#Draft_articles_without_an_AFC_banner for draft space articles that haven't been edited in say two years. Those obviously wouldn't have a AFC banner since those would be G13 eligible otherwise. This is sort of the equivalent of the Category:Userspace drafts created via the Article Wizard articles from long ago. Depending on the volume, would people here be interested in running it as a drive to work through? -- Ricky81682 ( talk) 21:21, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
Does "Only move article drafts to the namespace that were written by inactive or retired users" mean :
I and many others have been routinely moving userspace drafts to the Drafts namespace for several years now, labelled "preferred location for draft articles" . DGG ( talk ) 18:56, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
I'd like to propose a reorganization of this project. I think the project should get into organizing hanging userspace and draftspace drafts that are probably not worth deleting at MFD but aren't mainspace worthy.
Thoughts? -- Ricky81682 ( talk) 09:04, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
We are still going to CSD a lot of the crap on sight. We should promote the good stuff on sight. That leaves the marginal stuff that has been going to MfD, being redirected with a cross name space redirect, or blanked. Active members of the stale draft project should decide what path. It is hard to understand how editirs with no experience or interest in processing stale drafts can crediably set up a workable process. Legacypac ( talk) 15:05, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
Update Drafts can now be tagged by Category:Abandoned Drafts articles by potential and by month. The scale is currently Low/Mid/High and Unknown. If people want to tag the front of this project, that would be a start. -- Ricky81682 ( talk) 23:08, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
Is there any actual interest in keeping track and still tagging Abandoned drafts that are now in mainspace? I know AFC does it and it has close to 60k pages from their project but this project has nine (the actual drafts are tagged NA). Do we really need to keep track of the pages that were donated in Category:Abandoned Drafts from July 2011 which are now in mainspace? I think the project could be leaner without including them. -- Ricky81682 ( talk) 09:09, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
I don't feel the need to catagorize based on source. There is a masterlist somewhere already and Section 1 is at 100% cleared. Let's see how many red links CSD, redlink MfD, blanked, moves and redirects there are in that section. A way to count would be adding the keeps to a category. Legacypac ( talk) 14:55, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
I've started an audit of Section 1 /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Abandoned_Drafts/Stale_drafts/01. It started with 1000 drafts, has been cleared completely and is a good sample of the other 42 sections of the stale draft lists. We outright deleted 656 out of 1000 stale drafts. We also blanked or redirected (poorman's deletions) many of the remainder. . Legacypac ( talk) 15:44, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
![]() | This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 1 |
Here's a link to the proposal that started all this. Silver seren C 05:30, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
This project could track the articles being worked on and completed by members by using templates somewhat like the ones used by the GoCE backlog elimination drives. This project would keep the tracking indefinitely, and after some number of abandoned drafts completed and moved to main space, barnstars could be awarded. -- DThomsen8 ( talk) 12:14, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
Abandoned Draft tracking example This example would show Gaskets and Learnalot as completed drafts made into mainspace articles, and the Barcelona article being worked on by Dthomsen8.
This is a suggestion to be able to navigate better, by author page. For each author of a page, we make a page for that contributor. ~~ EBE123~~ talk Contribs 21:38, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
This could get complicated, we could end up with ones where the subject fails notability. North8000 ( talk) 11:46, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
Similar to the expressed proposal above: move the drafts at Wikipedia:WikiProject Abandoned Drafts/Drafts/Draftname and if it is definitive not notable then move the draft to Wikipedia:WikiProject Abandoned Drafts/NN/Draftname or so. mabdul 20:08, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
Here's a more general solution, we put a template. It would be for problems like Notability, not, Wikify, and more. It would also categorize it. ~~ Ebe123~~ talk Contribs 15:20, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
I moved a terrible article to my userspace at User:Ryan Vesey/Valasca and organized it a bit so that someone could get enough knowledge to identify the subject and do some research. I also have some external links. I don't have time to improve the article so I was wondering if anyone would like to take it. Ryan Vesey Review me! 16:47, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
I am requesting a graphic for this WikiProject. ~~ Ebe123~~ talk Contribs 18:37, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
![]() | This user is a participant in WikiProject Abandoned Drafts. |
There is now a category at
Category:Stale Userspace drafts which list pages with the {{
userspace draft}} tag that have not been edited for over a year. It's already quite sizable - feel free to pick through it.
Avic
ennasis @ 00:59, 25 Elul 5771 /
00:59, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
Is there a tag to tag suspected abandoned drafts? If the user hasn't edited in a while, tagging with the UW won't do much good. a {{ suspected abandoned draft}} would be good, that self populates a hidden category for that purpose. 76.65.128.132 ( talk) 11:33, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/User:Rollercoaster2428/Robb Alvey is at MfD right now. Please comment as to whether this stale draft has any potential. D O N D E groovily Talk to me 04:39, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
Note: This section is transcluded from the Article's for creation talk page to allow for a single discussion threat rather then having one here and one at AFC.
{{Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation|transcludesection=AFCHFeature}}
So the proposal of Excirial was successful, what you think? Where to place the links? In which kind of format? Newest to the top? On which page? mabdul 12:20, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
User:Nefu Da Boss made one edit in April 2012, creating his/her user page. That page appears to be a user space draft (the user's name is also the name of a rapper, I gather). I've placed this project's donation template on User talk:Nefu Da Boss, but since the editor has not been active since April, I don't foresee any action from him/her. I'm not sure if you all have a policy on taking stale drafts from inactive users, but I thought I'd point the page out to you. Cnilep ( talk) 05:53, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
-- j⚛e decker talk 17:56, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
There is a discussion at Wikipedia talk:Criteria for speedy deletion#Proposed new criterion: abandoned article drafts to determine if a new criteria should be added to WP:CSD for abandoned drafts. 64.40.54.125 ( talk) 14:44, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
This project has been mentioned in a current discussion at WT:Incubator. Unscintillating ( talk) 01:30, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
Given that other editors are much more likely to find a draft of this article (for example):
Wikipedia:WikiProject Abandoned Drafts/Rob Klotz
if it were, instead, here:
I suggest that all of the articles collected by this WikiProject be moved to the new Draft namespace. -- John Broughton (♫♫) 00:57, 21 December 2013 (UTC)
An RfC has been started to propose a Draft feed system. See: Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/RfC to create a 'Special:NewDraftsFeed' system. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 01:33, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
What happens if a Draft is copied to article space rather than just moved. Do we convert it to a redirect or is there speedy delete tag. Peter Rehse ( talk) 17:15, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
I see Category:Stale Userspace drafts has over 40,000 entries so I am pitching in to nominate drafts which are not salvageable for deletion. I am posting this as a courtesy as this WikiProject is mentioned on the category page. Is there a category that one can place these abandoned drafts into when they have usable content and can be reviewed before being moved to an article? PNGWantok ( talk) 09:08, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
Hello there! As you may already know, most WikiProjects here on Wikipedia struggle to stay active after they've been founded. I believe there is a lot of potential for WikiProjects to facilitate collaboration across subject areas, so I have submitted a grant proposal with the Wikimedia Foundation for the "WikiProject X" project. WikiProject X will study what makes WikiProjects succeed in retaining editors and then design a prototype WikiProject system that will recruit contributors to WikiProjects and help them run effectively. Please review the proposal here and leave feedback. If you have any questions, you can ask on the proposal page or leave a message on my talk page. Thank you for your time! (Also, sorry about the posting mistake earlier. If someone already moved my message to the talk page, feel free to remove this posting.) Harej ( talk) 22:47, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
I just thought I would notify anyone who is interested that there is a conversation over at WT:CSD concerning the speedy deletion criteria for abandoned draft/AfC articles. If your are interested, head over there and post your comments. Thanks! 98.74.160.226 ( talk) 05:19, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
Hello everyone!
You may have received a message from me earlier asking you to comment on my WikiProject X proposal. The good news is that WikiProject X is now live! In our first phase, we are focusing on research. At this time, we are looking for people to share their experiences with WikiProjects: good, bad, or neutral. We are also looking for WikiProjects that may be interested in trying out new tools and layouts that will make participating easier and projects easier to maintain. If you or your WikiProject are interested, check us out! Note that this is an opt-in program; no WikiProject will be required to change anything against its wishes. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thank you!
Note: To receive additional notifications about WikiProject X on this talk page, please add this page to Wikipedia:WikiProject X/Newsletter. Otherwise, this will be the last notification sent about WikiProject X.
Harej ( talk) 16:56, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
It has been proposed at WT:CSD that a four day delay period (between tagging and deletion) be introduced for deletions of abandoned drafts under CSD G13. This enables interested users to review these drafts and untag the ones that are salvagable. 103.6.159.179 ( talk) 09:22, 21 June 2015 (UTC)
Category:Stale userspace drafts now has ~47k pages in it. I'm going to try to skim this down (finding ownerless pages, short, no-content pages, etc) but any help is appreciated. Also, any ideas on how to make maintenance on this category easy in the future? Avic ennasis @ 06:15, 15 Av 5775 / 06:15, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
Wikipedia:WikiProject Abandoned Drafts/Stale drafts is complete. There's 46,635 there (about 20 more than when I started), so some work to do. Plenty of abandoned articles to find. -- Ricky81682 ( talk) 07:53, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
I find it semi-ironic that this project doesn't use the Drafts category so all drafts are located at Category:NA-Class Abandoned Drafts articles. Would people support moving drafts to a separate draft category? -- Ricky81682 ( talk) 10:38, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
Hi, I'm trying to formulate a bot request at Wikipedia:Bot_requests#Draft_articles_without_an_AFC_banner for draft space articles that haven't been edited in say two years. Those obviously wouldn't have a AFC banner since those would be G13 eligible otherwise. This is sort of the equivalent of the Category:Userspace drafts created via the Article Wizard articles from long ago. Depending on the volume, would people here be interested in running it as a drive to work through? -- Ricky81682 ( talk) 21:21, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
Does "Only move article drafts to the namespace that were written by inactive or retired users" mean :
I and many others have been routinely moving userspace drafts to the Drafts namespace for several years now, labelled "preferred location for draft articles" . DGG ( talk ) 18:56, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
I'd like to propose a reorganization of this project. I think the project should get into organizing hanging userspace and draftspace drafts that are probably not worth deleting at MFD but aren't mainspace worthy.
Thoughts? -- Ricky81682 ( talk) 09:04, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
We are still going to CSD a lot of the crap on sight. We should promote the good stuff on sight. That leaves the marginal stuff that has been going to MfD, being redirected with a cross name space redirect, or blanked. Active members of the stale draft project should decide what path. It is hard to understand how editirs with no experience or interest in processing stale drafts can crediably set up a workable process. Legacypac ( talk) 15:05, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
Update Drafts can now be tagged by Category:Abandoned Drafts articles by potential and by month. The scale is currently Low/Mid/High and Unknown. If people want to tag the front of this project, that would be a start. -- Ricky81682 ( talk) 23:08, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
Is there any actual interest in keeping track and still tagging Abandoned drafts that are now in mainspace? I know AFC does it and it has close to 60k pages from their project but this project has nine (the actual drafts are tagged NA). Do we really need to keep track of the pages that were donated in Category:Abandoned Drafts from July 2011 which are now in mainspace? I think the project could be leaner without including them. -- Ricky81682 ( talk) 09:09, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
I don't feel the need to catagorize based on source. There is a masterlist somewhere already and Section 1 is at 100% cleared. Let's see how many red links CSD, redlink MfD, blanked, moves and redirects there are in that section. A way to count would be adding the keeps to a category. Legacypac ( talk) 14:55, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
I've started an audit of Section 1 /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Abandoned_Drafts/Stale_drafts/01. It started with 1000 drafts, has been cleared completely and is a good sample of the other 42 sections of the stale draft lists. We outright deleted 656 out of 1000 stale drafts. We also blanked or redirected (poorman's deletions) many of the remainder. . Legacypac ( talk) 15:44, 21 March 2016 (UTC)