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I take it they don't get you any points, since they're not listed. Is it too late to get them added? (I've been working pretty hard on P:TB recently). The same goes for FTs and GTs. Dendodge Talk Contribs 14:56, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
The dates are january to march... but is the period only January and February, or does the round go through March ending on he 31st or whatever? Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ( talk) 14:09, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
"Articles or other media raised to any other status (featured or good) must have also been nominated and passed/promoted during the individual round." Does that mean to say that, if I nominate an article I've written for GA/FA in Round 1 and it only passes in Round 2, that the contribution doesn't count for anything? (Since it doesn't slot into either round perfectly.) That'd be a bit of a blow. — 97198 ( talk) 07:46, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
If two people work on the same article to get it to featured or good article status, then how is the credit given? Do both get the same points or are the points divided? Chamal talk 14:04, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
I see the format we will need to put our submissions in. Does it mean we will need to add every single diff of the edits we made on the page? jj137 (talk) 15:56, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
Now that there are exactly 60 entrants, shouldn't entry be closed to new contestants? Just to keep things a round number that is easy to work with? Sorry if I missed something if it's already closed; I'm on vacation and only hop on Wikipedia for a few minutes every other day or so. Useight ( talk) 16:28, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
This is sorta like the GA for images. Should it deserve any points (10-15?)? Spencer Merry Christmas! 17:53, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
From User:Garden/WikiCup/Submissions: "You must have nominated your In the news fact during the round."
Shouldn't you also have written the update to the ITN article, like DYK?
Spencer Merry Christmas! 20:48, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
Is it necessary to keep it? That MFD was created by someone who has now been found as a sock, and IMHO, the banner is kind of unneeded. jj137 (talk) 03:31, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
If anyone drops put in the coming days, I'd be more than willing to take their spot.-- Iamawesome 800 19:36, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
Will the selection of the six groups of five in stage 2 be random or by seeding based on the scores in the first round? Ϣere Spiel Chequers 19:46, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
I went to check the page statistics of an article earlier using the supplied tool. I entered 'en-wikipedia' and typed in the article name, then I clicked next, and then the words 'internal server error' came up. It said to report it to the creator, but he's on the German Wikipedia, so I thought reporting it here would be the next best thing. Is this happening to anyone else? Top Gear Freak 20:10, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
To submit an article for points, I have to link to the statistics page for the article. However, the tool given does not give each article its own URL, so the URL always goes to the tool home page. Is there any way around this? Dendodge Talk Contribs 13:04, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
Sorry guys, but it appears now that I could be substantially less active in some upcoming months, due to school and some other conflicts. I'm going to have to withdraw. Once again sorry. VX! ~~~ 03:09, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
So only Huggle edits need to be marked as minor, and all other "assisted" edits...? Spencer T♦ C 20:57, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
Diligent terrier has taken a huge wikibreak. Is he active? if not, then I'll gladly take his place representing Great Britain (I'm English/ Irish/ Irish) in this eleventh hour. However, I have no true problem with not competing, just volunteering as a last minute saviour. PXK T /C 23:09, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
Is it UTC New Year (i.e. now) or some crazy US version? Dendodge Talk Contribs 00:06, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
How can I enter it? LOTRrules Talk Contribs 00:36, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
If someone wants, I can drop out. I only entered because of silliness. I will be dragging behind and I don't like medals or anything. Its a thing for the young anyway. Garden, if you would like to contact me and see if I should be replaced with someone, please do. Just an offer. Ottava Rima ( talk) 04:50, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
I want to withdraw. I feel I'm not experienced enough and am not up to the standard of the other contestants in my pool. Top Gear Freak 14:34, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
How often will the bot be recalculating scores, and when does that begin? Ϣere Spiel Chequers 17:56, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
← I guess you are talking about this version; it was reverted as a test. Gary King ( talk) 22:31, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
I know Huggle is 0.01 points/edit, but what about AWB? I probably won't use it any more than normal, but I'm just curious. jj137 (talk) 23:57, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
All edits that are minor will be 0.01 points, however you will not get disqualified if you change your Twinkle, AWB, Rollback, etc. to be a regular edit. You will be disqualified if you change your Huggle edits to regular instead of minor. aye matthew @ 00:27, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
Just a heads up that I've got some personal issues which may unexpectedly affect my work on wikipedia for an extended period. While right now I'm still going to be pretty active, that could change at a moment's notice, so I am withdrawing. If there's anyone still vying for a spot this is their chance. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ( talk) 16:46, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
Are they the scores as of the start off today? Or more test edits? PXK T /C 23:11, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
This is becoming an un-needed problem. The mainspace edits are bringing up many problems and my opinion is that we should just boot them and stick to the article writing/improvement concept. I'd first just like to see what you guys think about it. All opinions welcome. aye matthew @ 03:10, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
Just remove them. Its an unneeded error.Mitch32( Go Syracuse) 14:56, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
Myself, Garden, and ST47 are talking in a private conversation right now. We'll let you know the result when we're done. aye matthew @ 20:01, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
Alright, we've gotten two conclusions:
aye matthew @ 20:19, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
Look, to all Hugglers who "can't write articles" and only joined for the Huggling - this is a content competition. Always was, even if last year it descended into the opposite. It's not hard to write GAs; I'm awful at writing and I got two. Seriously, this contest is to spur up more constructive editing, not to click a few buttons for hours on end. It's not fair on the encyclopedia writers. (Don't get me wrong, Huggle is great, just not what we're looking for. Sorry.) Garden. 20:36, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
Having watched what havoc Sharkface's Awards Center wrought, I have misgivings about this contest. Sharkface's Awards Center garnered so much interest in the rewards that editors were keen to work together to pass articles that were not high quality, and rush through processes because quantity of awards was more important to them than the quality of the individual article. However, I do not wish to urinate on the parade prematurely. Allow me to say to those who do not already know that should any participants consider bringing an article to WP:FAC, it should be after a GA pass and a Peer Review.
FAC is not the place to get a list of things to fix in the article in order to have it promoted as an FA.
I may go so far to suggest that if participants nominate articles at FAC that are clearly underpar in quality, they should lose points in this contest. And any user who attempts to pass an article at GA or through some other process that may further themselves somehow in this contest should be disqualified immediately and possibly blocked.
FAC is for serious hardcore research. It only works when volunteers help to review articles. Those volunteers are attracted to interesting and thoughtful work. I can only image what would happen to FAC reviewers if articles started to show up nominated by participants of this contest eager to gain points by sacrificing work and reviewers' time.
Call me the Grinch. I'm just no fun. -- Moni3 ( talk) 21:13, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
First off, this looks like a great idea for provoking mainspace edits! My question: Why is there no special points awarded for starting a new article either from a redlink or a redirect? When you look at things like Wikipedia:Missing mammal species or the most requested articles, you realize that just creating a decent article with a few references is a big help. Steven Walling (talk) 22:01, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
:You can still join, if there hasn't been someone who already took the 60th spot. But after the 5th, unless someone else withdraws before that it's set.--
Iamawesome
800
22:33, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
I've created a little "waiting list" under the participant list here if anyone wants to stand-in for early (read, this week) drop-outs due to the unfortunate changes in rules. I've added you, Steven :D Garden. 22:56, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
Okay, from what I understand, you can only get points for articles that you worked on and placed up at GAN and FAC that passed during the first round. So you can't get points for articles that you placed up before the cup began but passed after the new year, is that right?-- Will C 00:13, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
I feel I owe all of you an apology for my conduct a few hours ago. Upon finding our that the contest is strictly content-based, and not spread across all areas of contributing, as I originally thought, I should have just withdrawn cordially. Instead, my reaction was far less satisfactory, and totally uncalled for. I would like to make a public apology for what I did. J.delanoy gabs adds 18:52, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
I don't have Huggle, nor do I know what it is other than some program thing, also onmly a few of them were minor edits.-- What!?Why?Who? ( talk) 00:35, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
I suspect I know the answer to this, but am I correct in assuming that deleted mainspace contributions won't get counted by the bot? Ϣere Spiel Chequers 20:48, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
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I take it they don't get you any points, since they're not listed. Is it too late to get them added? (I've been working pretty hard on P:TB recently). The same goes for FTs and GTs. Dendodge Talk Contribs 14:56, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
The dates are january to march... but is the period only January and February, or does the round go through March ending on he 31st or whatever? Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ( talk) 14:09, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
"Articles or other media raised to any other status (featured or good) must have also been nominated and passed/promoted during the individual round." Does that mean to say that, if I nominate an article I've written for GA/FA in Round 1 and it only passes in Round 2, that the contribution doesn't count for anything? (Since it doesn't slot into either round perfectly.) That'd be a bit of a blow. — 97198 ( talk) 07:46, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
If two people work on the same article to get it to featured or good article status, then how is the credit given? Do both get the same points or are the points divided? Chamal talk 14:04, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
I see the format we will need to put our submissions in. Does it mean we will need to add every single diff of the edits we made on the page? jj137 (talk) 15:56, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
Now that there are exactly 60 entrants, shouldn't entry be closed to new contestants? Just to keep things a round number that is easy to work with? Sorry if I missed something if it's already closed; I'm on vacation and only hop on Wikipedia for a few minutes every other day or so. Useight ( talk) 16:28, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
This is sorta like the GA for images. Should it deserve any points (10-15?)? Spencer Merry Christmas! 17:53, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
From User:Garden/WikiCup/Submissions: "You must have nominated your In the news fact during the round."
Shouldn't you also have written the update to the ITN article, like DYK?
Spencer Merry Christmas! 20:48, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
Is it necessary to keep it? That MFD was created by someone who has now been found as a sock, and IMHO, the banner is kind of unneeded. jj137 (talk) 03:31, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
If anyone drops put in the coming days, I'd be more than willing to take their spot.-- Iamawesome 800 19:36, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
Will the selection of the six groups of five in stage 2 be random or by seeding based on the scores in the first round? Ϣere Spiel Chequers 19:46, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
I went to check the page statistics of an article earlier using the supplied tool. I entered 'en-wikipedia' and typed in the article name, then I clicked next, and then the words 'internal server error' came up. It said to report it to the creator, but he's on the German Wikipedia, so I thought reporting it here would be the next best thing. Is this happening to anyone else? Top Gear Freak 20:10, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
To submit an article for points, I have to link to the statistics page for the article. However, the tool given does not give each article its own URL, so the URL always goes to the tool home page. Is there any way around this? Dendodge Talk Contribs 13:04, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
Sorry guys, but it appears now that I could be substantially less active in some upcoming months, due to school and some other conflicts. I'm going to have to withdraw. Once again sorry. VX! ~~~ 03:09, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
So only Huggle edits need to be marked as minor, and all other "assisted" edits...? Spencer T♦ C 20:57, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
Diligent terrier has taken a huge wikibreak. Is he active? if not, then I'll gladly take his place representing Great Britain (I'm English/ Irish/ Irish) in this eleventh hour. However, I have no true problem with not competing, just volunteering as a last minute saviour. PXK T /C 23:09, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
Is it UTC New Year (i.e. now) or some crazy US version? Dendodge Talk Contribs 00:06, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
How can I enter it? LOTRrules Talk Contribs 00:36, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
If someone wants, I can drop out. I only entered because of silliness. I will be dragging behind and I don't like medals or anything. Its a thing for the young anyway. Garden, if you would like to contact me and see if I should be replaced with someone, please do. Just an offer. Ottava Rima ( talk) 04:50, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
I want to withdraw. I feel I'm not experienced enough and am not up to the standard of the other contestants in my pool. Top Gear Freak 14:34, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
How often will the bot be recalculating scores, and when does that begin? Ϣere Spiel Chequers 17:56, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
← I guess you are talking about this version; it was reverted as a test. Gary King ( talk) 22:31, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
I know Huggle is 0.01 points/edit, but what about AWB? I probably won't use it any more than normal, but I'm just curious. jj137 (talk) 23:57, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
All edits that are minor will be 0.01 points, however you will not get disqualified if you change your Twinkle, AWB, Rollback, etc. to be a regular edit. You will be disqualified if you change your Huggle edits to regular instead of minor. aye matthew @ 00:27, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
Just a heads up that I've got some personal issues which may unexpectedly affect my work on wikipedia for an extended period. While right now I'm still going to be pretty active, that could change at a moment's notice, so I am withdrawing. If there's anyone still vying for a spot this is their chance. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs ( talk) 16:46, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
Are they the scores as of the start off today? Or more test edits? PXK T /C 23:11, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
This is becoming an un-needed problem. The mainspace edits are bringing up many problems and my opinion is that we should just boot them and stick to the article writing/improvement concept. I'd first just like to see what you guys think about it. All opinions welcome. aye matthew @ 03:10, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
Just remove them. Its an unneeded error.Mitch32( Go Syracuse) 14:56, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
Myself, Garden, and ST47 are talking in a private conversation right now. We'll let you know the result when we're done. aye matthew @ 20:01, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
Alright, we've gotten two conclusions:
aye matthew @ 20:19, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
Look, to all Hugglers who "can't write articles" and only joined for the Huggling - this is a content competition. Always was, even if last year it descended into the opposite. It's not hard to write GAs; I'm awful at writing and I got two. Seriously, this contest is to spur up more constructive editing, not to click a few buttons for hours on end. It's not fair on the encyclopedia writers. (Don't get me wrong, Huggle is great, just not what we're looking for. Sorry.) Garden. 20:36, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
Having watched what havoc Sharkface's Awards Center wrought, I have misgivings about this contest. Sharkface's Awards Center garnered so much interest in the rewards that editors were keen to work together to pass articles that were not high quality, and rush through processes because quantity of awards was more important to them than the quality of the individual article. However, I do not wish to urinate on the parade prematurely. Allow me to say to those who do not already know that should any participants consider bringing an article to WP:FAC, it should be after a GA pass and a Peer Review.
FAC is not the place to get a list of things to fix in the article in order to have it promoted as an FA.
I may go so far to suggest that if participants nominate articles at FAC that are clearly underpar in quality, they should lose points in this contest. And any user who attempts to pass an article at GA or through some other process that may further themselves somehow in this contest should be disqualified immediately and possibly blocked.
FAC is for serious hardcore research. It only works when volunteers help to review articles. Those volunteers are attracted to interesting and thoughtful work. I can only image what would happen to FAC reviewers if articles started to show up nominated by participants of this contest eager to gain points by sacrificing work and reviewers' time.
Call me the Grinch. I'm just no fun. -- Moni3 ( talk) 21:13, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
First off, this looks like a great idea for provoking mainspace edits! My question: Why is there no special points awarded for starting a new article either from a redlink or a redirect? When you look at things like Wikipedia:Missing mammal species or the most requested articles, you realize that just creating a decent article with a few references is a big help. Steven Walling (talk) 22:01, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
:You can still join, if there hasn't been someone who already took the 60th spot. But after the 5th, unless someone else withdraws before that it's set.--
Iamawesome
800
22:33, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
I've created a little "waiting list" under the participant list here if anyone wants to stand-in for early (read, this week) drop-outs due to the unfortunate changes in rules. I've added you, Steven :D Garden. 22:56, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
Okay, from what I understand, you can only get points for articles that you worked on and placed up at GAN and FAC that passed during the first round. So you can't get points for articles that you placed up before the cup began but passed after the new year, is that right?-- Will C 00:13, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
I feel I owe all of you an apology for my conduct a few hours ago. Upon finding our that the contest is strictly content-based, and not spread across all areas of contributing, as I originally thought, I should have just withdrawn cordially. Instead, my reaction was far less satisfactory, and totally uncalled for. I would like to make a public apology for what I did. J.delanoy gabs adds 18:52, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
I don't have Huggle, nor do I know what it is other than some program thing, also onmly a few of them were minor edits.-- What!?Why?Who? ( talk) 00:35, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
I suspect I know the answer to this, but am I correct in assuming that deleted mainspace contributions won't get counted by the bot? Ϣere Spiel Chequers 20:48, 8 January 2009 (UTC)