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Wikipedia:Content assessment has an RfC for possible consensus. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. Schierbecker ( talk) 22:40, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
Currently, Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Lead_section#Length says 250 to 400 words for most FA's. But these are just suggestions. Some articles also have considerably higher word counts for their leads. An example would be India, although its FAR was a long time ago. I wonder if we could get a more precise guideline similar to Wikipedia:Article_size#Size_guideline. Something like a table? Recommended: 250-400. Ok:400s. Acceptable:500s. Above 600:should be trimmed? Bogazicili ( talk) 20:09, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
Note that there is a proposal in Village pump regarding the consistency requirement for short and long inline citations: [1] This would concern FA criteria 2c. Bogazicili ( talk) 16:13, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
Hi. Is there a place in the instructions to add, "FAC nominators are expected to continuously maintain articles they nominated"? I just read that yesterday at WP:FASA, about 15 years after the fact. Pardon me if I missed it. - SusanLesch ( talk) 21:10, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
Does "consistent citations: where required by criterion 1c, consistently formatted inline citations using footnotes—see citing sources for suggestions on formatting references. Citation templates are not required." require that all citations use the same capitalization style when the sources don't use the same capitalization convention? Question came up at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Mount Hudson/archive1 Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk) 07:54, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
WP:Citing sources § Citation style permits the use of pre-defined, off-Wikipedia citation styles within Wikipedia, and some of these expect sentence case for certain titles (usually article and chapter titles). Title case should not be imposed on such titles under such a citation style consistently used in an article.My reading of this is that either all article titles should be in sentence case, or none should: we don't mix-and-match depending on how they are presented at the source. Caeciliusinhorto-public ( talk) 08:28, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
personally, I think these MoS/consistency aspects get too much attention at FAC at the cost of actual fact/source checkingI don't disagree with this! The problem is that it is easy to nitpick fine details of the Manual of Style (there are a lot of fiddly little rules to remember, and it doesn't require any subject-specific expertise) whereas unless you happen to have significant knowledge of the field already, it is very difficult to make substantive points about content – generally anyone bringing an article to FAC is more expert on that topic than any of the FAC reviewers!
This page has archives. Sections older than 56 days may be automatically archived by Lowercase sigmabot III. |
Wikipedia:Content assessment has an RfC for possible consensus. A discussion is taking place. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments on the discussion page. Thank you. Schierbecker ( talk) 22:40, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
Currently, Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Lead_section#Length says 250 to 400 words for most FA's. But these are just suggestions. Some articles also have considerably higher word counts for their leads. An example would be India, although its FAR was a long time ago. I wonder if we could get a more precise guideline similar to Wikipedia:Article_size#Size_guideline. Something like a table? Recommended: 250-400. Ok:400s. Acceptable:500s. Above 600:should be trimmed? Bogazicili ( talk) 20:09, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
Note that there is a proposal in Village pump regarding the consistency requirement for short and long inline citations: [1] This would concern FA criteria 2c. Bogazicili ( talk) 16:13, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
Hi. Is there a place in the instructions to add, "FAC nominators are expected to continuously maintain articles they nominated"? I just read that yesterday at WP:FASA, about 15 years after the fact. Pardon me if I missed it. - SusanLesch ( talk) 21:10, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
Does "consistent citations: where required by criterion 1c, consistently formatted inline citations using footnotes—see citing sources for suggestions on formatting references. Citation templates are not required." require that all citations use the same capitalization style when the sources don't use the same capitalization convention? Question came up at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Mount Hudson/archive1 Jo-Jo Eumerus ( talk) 07:54, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
WP:Citing sources § Citation style permits the use of pre-defined, off-Wikipedia citation styles within Wikipedia, and some of these expect sentence case for certain titles (usually article and chapter titles). Title case should not be imposed on such titles under such a citation style consistently used in an article.My reading of this is that either all article titles should be in sentence case, or none should: we don't mix-and-match depending on how they are presented at the source. Caeciliusinhorto-public ( talk) 08:28, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
personally, I think these MoS/consistency aspects get too much attention at FAC at the cost of actual fact/source checkingI don't disagree with this! The problem is that it is easy to nitpick fine details of the Manual of Style (there are a lot of fiddly little rules to remember, and it doesn't require any subject-specific expertise) whereas unless you happen to have significant knowledge of the field already, it is very difficult to make substantive points about content – generally anyone bringing an article to FAC is more expert on that topic than any of the FAC reviewers!