![]() | This page is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
I think its possible to actually make the ed2k link a link that will open up in eDonkey2000 or eMule when clicked, im gonna try. Nominaladversary 18:44, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
The wpcd.zip and .rar aren't doing too well...but the .iso is great. Anyone have an idea. Nominaladversary 12:03, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
...if I am correct, is to distribute wikipedia over bittorrent? Is that individual articles, or everything on wikipedia? Whatever it is, it sounds like a good idea. Where do I sign up? Ultra Loser 02:25, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
Folks, I am putting together some tools at User:Wikiwizzy/CDTools for assembling a CD. I have a problem with pictures - my connection here in South Africa is not even close to what is required to get the picture dump. Does anyone here have the full dump on a Linux/Unix machine ? At Wikipedia Talk:Version_1.0_Editorial_Team I am asking for help on another 18529 images - or rather, thumbnailed versions of them, that will probably run to about 400Meg - manageable for me. If I were to send you a simple shell script, could someone run it, and send me the resulting tarball ? Wizzy… ☎ 09:56, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
I'm sure you guys have seen, but if you haven't. Download links for torrents are down, except for the googlepages one. Um, some of the torrent sites like to move the page and...therefore the torrents appear to be "Non existant". Or some places change the direct d/l link to the info page. This won't be a problem for most people, but it still will be one. Nominaladversary 01:39, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
GUYS! The aim of this project was to make an alternate download of the wikipedia cd. Technically, yeah we did, but torrents make downloads go faster. Yeah yeah, i know we have about 5 uploaders, so a little bit of more word spreading. We can't really say "download the cd using a torrent" until we have a definte amount of people uploading to make the file d/l faster than....say 120 kbps? Nominaladversary 01:39, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
I know i know, everyone has been doing a lot of work on this already, so i guess we just need more people? I have a question, if someoen had a server, or rented one, or whatever---i dont know, they bought hosting and stuff, is it possible to have that server be multiple seeders? thanks. Nominaladversary 01:39, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
I went through my personal seeder/leacher stats from μTorrent and see that I passed along the equivalent of 70 copies of the 2006 Wikipedia CD selection in its various forms (zip:7-rar:13-iso:50). I probably contributed another 20 copies using eMule ( ed2k and Kad Network). I figure another 2 participants did a similar volume. Multiply that by another 2 to 20, my gut feeling based on the swarm size I was looking at through my knothole, and I estimate between 540 and 5,400 uploads sparked by this project in a period of weeks. If we knew then what we know now, we could have multiplied that spread by another 5-10X. This compares to 27,000 downloads times xx copies (!) of the wpcd.zip file directly from the originating site over a period of months. Admittedly that is a pretty loose and simplistic metric to apply to what we did, but it is clearly encouraging at many levels. -- revised Paleorthid 14:59, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
Wikiwizzy has an ftp link to a Palm version of 2006 Wikipedia CD Selection. WikiWizzy is the creator (is that the right term?) and is OK with the project distributing it. I'll note my progress on an active project page. - Paleorthid 16:35, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
Um, I think .rar version of the wpcd has died, or is close to death. I can repack the zip version using winrar and put it up on emule. I can't use azureus right now, so yeah. I'm gonna try to put the wpcd.rar somewhere on the web to download and then seed (not leech then download), so you can use your browser to download, you get the idea. Nominaladversary 03:10, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
I hope we can be more attuned to accurate version naming the next go-around. I get previously had heartburn over our project continuing to imply
here that the 2006 Wikipedia CD Selection (wpcd.zip) is equivalent to the far in the future DVD-sized Version 1.0 Release. Now that WPCD2 is about to come out, let's be sure not to similarly equate it inaccurately it with version 0.5. --
Paleorthid
18:04, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
Clarifying information:
Revised -- Paleorthid 23:45, 18 November 2006 (UTC) Revised -- 00:50, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
For more information, see ver 0.5 subpages, listed here. -- Paleorthid 20:24, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
A consistent naming approach would group project content together in search results. This wasn't an issue in 2005. Wikipedia content files have proliferated on P2P content forums and .torrent index sites. Often the file name is the only clue as to content.
The right file name has legs in the wild. Each release version file (including BozMo's releases) would proliferate more efficiently with a uniform naming convention. Here is one approach:
Perhaps BozMo must stick to 8+3 limits considering his target audience (I don't know) but we should take (and have taken) the opportunity to rename files for the benefit of our audience. The wpcd.zip file was renamed 2006_Wikipedia_CD_Selection.zip to good effect. Best would be for the files to come to the torrent subproject with little need for renaming. -- Paleorthid 00:50, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
I've put the wpcd.zip file up on bittorrent.com - http://www.bittorrent.com/users/jpettitt/torrents/779c3b64448f0b438a80cad8d202cec84f4e0bf5/ the .torrent has the bittorrent http extension s othat it will fallback to the sosmedia eb site if there are no seeds (if your client supports http seeds). I also seeded it on seeder03.bittorrent.com which has a gigabit connection so there should be n o problem downloading it. Trapper 07:29, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
The story on dugg is generating feedback. There is much support for a DVD-sized product and one person comments on the torrent dl speed:
-- Paleorthid 21:15, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
I'm not sure if this is happening to other people, but, when I try to seed wpcd.rar, it allocates and then...doesn't seed. It gets to a certain percentage and then leeches itself. Its as if the .rar version i have is different than the one the torrent wants. Of course I checked if the .rar file was corrupt--it wasn't. We don't have any seeders for the .rar file, just around 6 leechers. Is anyone else having the same problem(s)? Another note: After the failure of seeding, I repacked the zip version of wpcd. I tried seeding-- same error --. I repacked it using winzip and winrar, on normal compression. The file size is the same as the torrent suggests. If anyone can seed it, please post. If it indeed doesn't work anymore, we can just repack and release the torrent, unless anyone else has a better idea? Nominaladversary 01:26, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
![]() | This page is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
I think its possible to actually make the ed2k link a link that will open up in eDonkey2000 or eMule when clicked, im gonna try. Nominaladversary 18:44, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
The wpcd.zip and .rar aren't doing too well...but the .iso is great. Anyone have an idea. Nominaladversary 12:03, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
...if I am correct, is to distribute wikipedia over bittorrent? Is that individual articles, or everything on wikipedia? Whatever it is, it sounds like a good idea. Where do I sign up? Ultra Loser 02:25, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
Folks, I am putting together some tools at User:Wikiwizzy/CDTools for assembling a CD. I have a problem with pictures - my connection here in South Africa is not even close to what is required to get the picture dump. Does anyone here have the full dump on a Linux/Unix machine ? At Wikipedia Talk:Version_1.0_Editorial_Team I am asking for help on another 18529 images - or rather, thumbnailed versions of them, that will probably run to about 400Meg - manageable for me. If I were to send you a simple shell script, could someone run it, and send me the resulting tarball ? Wizzy… ☎ 09:56, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
I'm sure you guys have seen, but if you haven't. Download links for torrents are down, except for the googlepages one. Um, some of the torrent sites like to move the page and...therefore the torrents appear to be "Non existant". Or some places change the direct d/l link to the info page. This won't be a problem for most people, but it still will be one. Nominaladversary 01:39, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
GUYS! The aim of this project was to make an alternate download of the wikipedia cd. Technically, yeah we did, but torrents make downloads go faster. Yeah yeah, i know we have about 5 uploaders, so a little bit of more word spreading. We can't really say "download the cd using a torrent" until we have a definte amount of people uploading to make the file d/l faster than....say 120 kbps? Nominaladversary 01:39, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
I know i know, everyone has been doing a lot of work on this already, so i guess we just need more people? I have a question, if someoen had a server, or rented one, or whatever---i dont know, they bought hosting and stuff, is it possible to have that server be multiple seeders? thanks. Nominaladversary 01:39, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
I went through my personal seeder/leacher stats from μTorrent and see that I passed along the equivalent of 70 copies of the 2006 Wikipedia CD selection in its various forms (zip:7-rar:13-iso:50). I probably contributed another 20 copies using eMule ( ed2k and Kad Network). I figure another 2 participants did a similar volume. Multiply that by another 2 to 20, my gut feeling based on the swarm size I was looking at through my knothole, and I estimate between 540 and 5,400 uploads sparked by this project in a period of weeks. If we knew then what we know now, we could have multiplied that spread by another 5-10X. This compares to 27,000 downloads times xx copies (!) of the wpcd.zip file directly from the originating site over a period of months. Admittedly that is a pretty loose and simplistic metric to apply to what we did, but it is clearly encouraging at many levels. -- revised Paleorthid 14:59, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
Wikiwizzy has an ftp link to a Palm version of 2006 Wikipedia CD Selection. WikiWizzy is the creator (is that the right term?) and is OK with the project distributing it. I'll note my progress on an active project page. - Paleorthid 16:35, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
Um, I think .rar version of the wpcd has died, or is close to death. I can repack the zip version using winrar and put it up on emule. I can't use azureus right now, so yeah. I'm gonna try to put the wpcd.rar somewhere on the web to download and then seed (not leech then download), so you can use your browser to download, you get the idea. Nominaladversary 03:10, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
I hope we can be more attuned to accurate version naming the next go-around. I get previously had heartburn over our project continuing to imply
here that the 2006 Wikipedia CD Selection (wpcd.zip) is equivalent to the far in the future DVD-sized Version 1.0 Release. Now that WPCD2 is about to come out, let's be sure not to similarly equate it inaccurately it with version 0.5. --
Paleorthid
18:04, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
Clarifying information:
Revised -- Paleorthid 23:45, 18 November 2006 (UTC) Revised -- 00:50, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
For more information, see ver 0.5 subpages, listed here. -- Paleorthid 20:24, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
A consistent naming approach would group project content together in search results. This wasn't an issue in 2005. Wikipedia content files have proliferated on P2P content forums and .torrent index sites. Often the file name is the only clue as to content.
The right file name has legs in the wild. Each release version file (including BozMo's releases) would proliferate more efficiently with a uniform naming convention. Here is one approach:
Perhaps BozMo must stick to 8+3 limits considering his target audience (I don't know) but we should take (and have taken) the opportunity to rename files for the benefit of our audience. The wpcd.zip file was renamed 2006_Wikipedia_CD_Selection.zip to good effect. Best would be for the files to come to the torrent subproject with little need for renaming. -- Paleorthid 00:50, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
I've put the wpcd.zip file up on bittorrent.com - http://www.bittorrent.com/users/jpettitt/torrents/779c3b64448f0b438a80cad8d202cec84f4e0bf5/ the .torrent has the bittorrent http extension s othat it will fallback to the sosmedia eb site if there are no seeds (if your client supports http seeds). I also seeded it on seeder03.bittorrent.com which has a gigabit connection so there should be n o problem downloading it. Trapper 07:29, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
The story on dugg is generating feedback. There is much support for a DVD-sized product and one person comments on the torrent dl speed:
-- Paleorthid 21:15, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
I'm not sure if this is happening to other people, but, when I try to seed wpcd.rar, it allocates and then...doesn't seed. It gets to a certain percentage and then leeches itself. Its as if the .rar version i have is different than the one the torrent wants. Of course I checked if the .rar file was corrupt--it wasn't. We don't have any seeders for the .rar file, just around 6 leechers. Is anyone else having the same problem(s)? Another note: After the failure of seeding, I repacked the zip version of wpcd. I tried seeding-- same error --. I repacked it using winzip and winrar, on normal compression. The file size is the same as the torrent suggests. If anyone can seed it, please post. If it indeed doesn't work anymore, we can just repack and release the torrent, unless anyone else has a better idea? Nominaladversary 01:26, 4 December 2006 (UTC)