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I can seed the torrents from several dedicated servers 24/7 with a 100mbit connection... If anybody would be so kind to tell me where I can get all the Wikipedia torrents? Sorry for posting anonoymous, but I cannot login here at the moment. I will sign with my own username here later. (I'm on a school computer at the moment) EDIT: I know there's a download link on this discussion page, but I'm not sure whether there are any more Wikipedia torrents circulating, besides this one. 213.126.131.130 ( talk) 08:57, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
Does anyone feel the need to have a meeting about this project through irc. I wouldn't mind talking for a meeting, err typing. I thought we could use the wikipedia 1.0 channel. Its on the Version 1.0 editorial team. I'm there right now, until they kick me off. I am 'nominaladversary' Nominaladversary 04:32, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
Just thought I'd keep you abreast of developments at Wikipedia:Version 0.5. Linterweb, a French company, is planning to release 2000-10000 CDs during January. It was delayed a little in order to hire a developer, but he has now started work. The CD will include a search engine and a set of navigational pages (some of these are ready). I believe everything (including the software) will be available for the free download under GFDL. Will you be able to set up for a January release via the BitTorrent network? Thanks, and Happy New Year, Walkerma 05:17, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
(unindent)I'm still very ichy to get a torrent going for it ASAP or exactly on the date (now April 3rd?) so that if the site gets slammed by digg or something it'll still have a solid download link. while leeching/seeding is not new to me, actually establishing a torrent is; is this ready to go or is there anyway i can help? JoeSmack Talk 20:16, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
Will the members of this project get notified before the torrent is made public so we have time to download the CD before everyone else, or will we just join the swarm and hope for the best? I think we should get notified, because that should increase the download speed for everyone.
A possible way to do this would be to create a torrent which is made available to us, but not any major torrent indexes. After we've all downloaded the files, we can submit the torrent to the index sites. Ultra-Loser [ T ] [ C ] 04:58, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
It just occurred to me that eMule distribution could actually come to a standstill even if 20 people were uploading a wikipedia file. I don't know where this would go, and I'm positive distribution over the ED2K network will never stop for us, but there is a situation. In eMule, you can be firewalled, or some random NAT problem--which usually stems from having a router. IF every person were to have this problem, who wanted a wikipedia file, no one would ever connect to anyone for the file. Note: This is just for eMule.
Let me explain, when you're firewalled in a Bit torrent client, your downloads will be slower than someone's who isn't firewalled, but you will still receive files. On the ED2K network, if you're firewalled, you are given a "Low ID" status, and if you're not, you're given a "High ID". Now here is the problem: Low ID's can not connect to other Low ID's, only to High ID's. High ID's can connect to whomever they want to. Now with eMule, there are two networks you are connected to, the KAD network and the ED2K. Here is when you are Firewalled for the KAD network, when this happens, the globe at the bottom right will have a yellow arrow corresponding to the KAD network and the connection info will tell you that you are firewalled. Now, with the ED2K network, when you are firewalled, you will be labeled "Low ID" and firewalled, and the globe arrow which corresponds to the ED2K network will be yellow. When you are downloading, the uploader you are downloading from will see a (Low ID) status next to your wait time. IF you are a High ID person, then there will be no status. Finally, when you are High ID and not firewalled/have a NAT problem, then the yellow arrows will become Blu-ish/Green-ish. Even if you're firewalled, it will still say you're connected next to the globe--because you are. Here is a perfect situation.
Sorry for the image quality, google doesn't like png so it converts them to a terrible jpg compressed picture. Nominaladversary 22:49, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
Questions? I might need to explain again.
I'm guessing this is how the torrent project will be. We have seeders for the files on the BitTorrent side and Uploaders on the ED2K side. We're dormant and running...until a situation arises, which hopefully won't happen until the next release. Everyone who uploads/seeds uses plenty of bandwith up, so thanks for that. Nominaladversary 02:39, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
Does anyone even download the CD using a torrent? I don't even think the tracker for the torrent works. Nominaladversary 19:45, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
I think we should stop Torrent support for this, it is extremely outdated, the torrent has a number of problems with it, and I don't think anyone wants it. Also, there is an update to this CD. Nominaladversary 17:03, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
Two versions available: 4G with full size images, 1G with only the thumbnails. Browsable at http://schools-wikipedia.org Generally it is tons better than the last one. Please could someone tell me where to upload the files so you can torrent them? We've only got 500G bandwidth on our website so probably will only offer the 1G one. -- BozMo talk 10:01, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:RM3P7JSGXQCJ4ZLYMW6UXQW5TEGBTNIM
Nominaladversary 20:37, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
This lazy wikipedean volunteers his efforts. If there is a better page to list your interest, let me know. Mathiastck 06:35, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
I have acquired a tracker for all of our projects using torrents. The tracker, has 99& guarantee uptime and we will use it for all future torrents, including the torrent release of the 2007 Wikipedia CD Release. Of course, every torrent has to be registered so we don't have random people abusing the tracker--which is the reason why I am not posting the announce URL here. Many thanks to my friend who set it up for me. Nominaladversary 17:28, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
For me, the BT tracker for "2007 Wikipedia CD Selection" is dead... my mirroring stopped in the middle of the file. :( Kelson 17:11, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
My torrent client is currently reporting "No connection could be made because the target machine actively refused it" for http://wp.cyllene.org:7397/announce (the SOS 2007 Wikipedia Selection torrent). DuncanHarris 13:40, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
Well, not really, but there isn't any word to say what it exactly is. This page tells you how many seeders/leechers we have as well as how many completely downloads of the file have been achieved. If we had two torrents, I think it will show individual torrent statistics. Nominaladversary 23:35, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
On Piratebay : http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3658466/Wikipedia_Release_Version_0.5 ... is that normal ? Kelson 10:54, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
Probably a silly question (I apologize) but does the distribution through other file-sharing protocols and networks such as Gnutella fall within the scope of this project, and is it acceptable to do so? (Just wanted to verify.) -- Shruti14 t c s 01:52, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
We hope to be able to have Version 0.7 published by the autumn. It should be a release of around 20,000-30,000 articles. Will this work OK with a Torrent format? Can you be ready for October/November time? Cheers, Walkerma ( talk) 07:17, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
For anyone else looking for a quick response: Yes, but 1 file only. Help (perhaps) needed.
Sorry for the delay again. Thanks for getting around to the torrent project though! Nominaladversary ( talk) 01:00, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
Things aren't really settled down yet, however, I'm going to try to get into touch with someone at BitTorrent, inc. so that a torrent release with substantial support can be legitimately available for the public, etc. Nominaladversary ( talk) 18:34, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
Ok. We've been silent long enough. I'm taking actions to get us our own tracker back, some decent hosting if necessary, and possibly an external site (for reference, and exploration --take that anyway you want--). First of all, we need to address some things:
First, we need to change the main/must achieve/last hurrah goal of this project, or rather, make it the absolute focus...and that is, making a .torrent file of the current WP selection dvd, and providing an adequate download service. We should not move on to a ED2K focus until this goal is completed.
This is possibly the biggest obstacle. We won't be able to have a decent alternative download source unless we have a large amount of people seeding the file, it is after all 3.5gb. Though the file size makes it ideal for a torrent release, we still need to make a base. Spreading the word is the first step, but we need to figure out how to maintain the base and offer reasons for further outreach. Let's contact bittorrent, inc, and all the big name torrent directories.
Trackers.Peers.Seeders.Magnet Links.Ratios.blah blah blah. The point is, what are the rules? What are the goals here? What formats? Why? Do we need to compress the image?
Seeing as the official-official and final releases is already torrent-able on the soschildren's website, we can assume that'll be their priority. All help is encouraged to their effort, however. Our focus shifts to every other release and broadening the audience to the project(via torrents of course!)--besides we don't wanna keep focus on just one place... The new year is coming. Nominaladversary ( talk) 01:42, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
"There is no need to mirror download sites of torrents, we have that covered. But posts at dump sites (piratebay, torrentz) are encouraged."
This sentence seems a bit ambiguous in meaning. I am not quite sure what it is saying. I also think that the entire page as a whole would be better if it were reorganized, but as I can't think of a better way to organize it, I shall leave that to someone else. Zell Faze ( talk) 20:05, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
For those who watch mainly this page - we are putting together another general collection of around 45,000 articles, to be called Version 0.8. This will test out our ability to automate the version selection, this being the main problem and delay we had for Version 0.7. I expect Version 0.8 to be produced much more quickly - perhaps by October. We are having an IRC meeting on Thursday July 29th on distribution of this release - please consider coming if you can (see WT:1).
Also, we will be producing an updated version of Version 0.7 quite soon, to be called 0.701. I believe there may be another Schools release in the works soon, so watch for that too. Is there anyone here who is able to help organize torrents for these three collections? Thanks, Walkerma ( talk) 03:39, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
UPDATE: We now have a selection of articles, and by this weekend (August 21st) we expect to see a list of revisionIDs to go with those articles. We will then consult with WikiProjects during September, and hopefully be ready to publish the selection in October. User:Kelson can start the seeding process from the Kiwix server - is there anyone here who can take the process from there? Walkerma ( talk) 05:26, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
FURTHER UPDATE: The ZIM file should be ready by around December 15th. Are people here ready to work with User:Kelson to do the torrent next week? Walkerma ( talk) 03:55, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
BETA AVAILABLE: The release mentioned above was rather buggy, but we think everything has been fixed now - see details. We're testing the beta version now, and hope to have the final release available in a week or two. I will try to recruit people to help with the Torrent. Anyone here able to help? Walkerma ( talk) 18:27, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
FINAL RELEASE NOW AVAILABLE: There is a Kiwix torrent file now available:
For the ZIM file without the reader software:
Please can you start the seeding etc? Thanks, Walkerma ( talk) 08:24, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
Also, please can you update the Torrent project page with the appropriate links? Thanks, Walkerma ( talk) 08:26, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
Admittedly I haven't been the most active in recent months (didn't even realize it was my WikiBirthday because I haven't been logged in). However, given the wikibreak of the coordinator, I would like to request as a ClearBits content uploader that I help as a co or acting coordinator until we hear more from our main coordinator.-- Ipatrol ( talk) 20:43, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
I'm at http://www.clearbits.net/creators/149-ipatrol if you want to follow me. Right now I'm writing a program to compile the articles listed in a CSV file on the toolserver into an offline collection. I use Python and python-wikitools so if anyone is willing to help me, I'll put it on Github and add you to the project.
Cheers. -- Ipatrol ( talk) 13:19, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
Hello! I am probably asking this question in the wrong place ... If you look at my editorial contributions, I just started, and I began on a fundraising page. I was making a proposal for the WMF to sell hard drives loaded with the encyclopedia. Then I got sent over here. I found a "donor" who would help the WMF get this proposal going. These pages are so detailed, I really don't understand what is currently available. Can you direct me to the correct place, please? LadyJosie ( talk) 17:30, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
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I can seed the torrents from several dedicated servers 24/7 with a 100mbit connection... If anybody would be so kind to tell me where I can get all the Wikipedia torrents? Sorry for posting anonoymous, but I cannot login here at the moment. I will sign with my own username here later. (I'm on a school computer at the moment) EDIT: I know there's a download link on this discussion page, but I'm not sure whether there are any more Wikipedia torrents circulating, besides this one. 213.126.131.130 ( talk) 08:57, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
Does anyone feel the need to have a meeting about this project through irc. I wouldn't mind talking for a meeting, err typing. I thought we could use the wikipedia 1.0 channel. Its on the Version 1.0 editorial team. I'm there right now, until they kick me off. I am 'nominaladversary' Nominaladversary 04:32, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
Just thought I'd keep you abreast of developments at Wikipedia:Version 0.5. Linterweb, a French company, is planning to release 2000-10000 CDs during January. It was delayed a little in order to hire a developer, but he has now started work. The CD will include a search engine and a set of navigational pages (some of these are ready). I believe everything (including the software) will be available for the free download under GFDL. Will you be able to set up for a January release via the BitTorrent network? Thanks, and Happy New Year, Walkerma 05:17, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
(unindent)I'm still very ichy to get a torrent going for it ASAP or exactly on the date (now April 3rd?) so that if the site gets slammed by digg or something it'll still have a solid download link. while leeching/seeding is not new to me, actually establishing a torrent is; is this ready to go or is there anyway i can help? JoeSmack Talk 20:16, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
Will the members of this project get notified before the torrent is made public so we have time to download the CD before everyone else, or will we just join the swarm and hope for the best? I think we should get notified, because that should increase the download speed for everyone.
A possible way to do this would be to create a torrent which is made available to us, but not any major torrent indexes. After we've all downloaded the files, we can submit the torrent to the index sites. Ultra-Loser [ T ] [ C ] 04:58, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
It just occurred to me that eMule distribution could actually come to a standstill even if 20 people were uploading a wikipedia file. I don't know where this would go, and I'm positive distribution over the ED2K network will never stop for us, but there is a situation. In eMule, you can be firewalled, or some random NAT problem--which usually stems from having a router. IF every person were to have this problem, who wanted a wikipedia file, no one would ever connect to anyone for the file. Note: This is just for eMule.
Let me explain, when you're firewalled in a Bit torrent client, your downloads will be slower than someone's who isn't firewalled, but you will still receive files. On the ED2K network, if you're firewalled, you are given a "Low ID" status, and if you're not, you're given a "High ID". Now here is the problem: Low ID's can not connect to other Low ID's, only to High ID's. High ID's can connect to whomever they want to. Now with eMule, there are two networks you are connected to, the KAD network and the ED2K. Here is when you are Firewalled for the KAD network, when this happens, the globe at the bottom right will have a yellow arrow corresponding to the KAD network and the connection info will tell you that you are firewalled. Now, with the ED2K network, when you are firewalled, you will be labeled "Low ID" and firewalled, and the globe arrow which corresponds to the ED2K network will be yellow. When you are downloading, the uploader you are downloading from will see a (Low ID) status next to your wait time. IF you are a High ID person, then there will be no status. Finally, when you are High ID and not firewalled/have a NAT problem, then the yellow arrows will become Blu-ish/Green-ish. Even if you're firewalled, it will still say you're connected next to the globe--because you are. Here is a perfect situation.
Sorry for the image quality, google doesn't like png so it converts them to a terrible jpg compressed picture. Nominaladversary 22:49, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
Questions? I might need to explain again.
I'm guessing this is how the torrent project will be. We have seeders for the files on the BitTorrent side and Uploaders on the ED2K side. We're dormant and running...until a situation arises, which hopefully won't happen until the next release. Everyone who uploads/seeds uses plenty of bandwith up, so thanks for that. Nominaladversary 02:39, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
Does anyone even download the CD using a torrent? I don't even think the tracker for the torrent works. Nominaladversary 19:45, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
I think we should stop Torrent support for this, it is extremely outdated, the torrent has a number of problems with it, and I don't think anyone wants it. Also, there is an update to this CD. Nominaladversary 17:03, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
Two versions available: 4G with full size images, 1G with only the thumbnails. Browsable at http://schools-wikipedia.org Generally it is tons better than the last one. Please could someone tell me where to upload the files so you can torrent them? We've only got 500G bandwidth on our website so probably will only offer the 1G one. -- BozMo talk 10:01, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:RM3P7JSGXQCJ4ZLYMW6UXQW5TEGBTNIM
Nominaladversary 20:37, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
This lazy wikipedean volunteers his efforts. If there is a better page to list your interest, let me know. Mathiastck 06:35, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
I have acquired a tracker for all of our projects using torrents. The tracker, has 99& guarantee uptime and we will use it for all future torrents, including the torrent release of the 2007 Wikipedia CD Release. Of course, every torrent has to be registered so we don't have random people abusing the tracker--which is the reason why I am not posting the announce URL here. Many thanks to my friend who set it up for me. Nominaladversary 17:28, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
For me, the BT tracker for "2007 Wikipedia CD Selection" is dead... my mirroring stopped in the middle of the file. :( Kelson 17:11, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
My torrent client is currently reporting "No connection could be made because the target machine actively refused it" for http://wp.cyllene.org:7397/announce (the SOS 2007 Wikipedia Selection torrent). DuncanHarris 13:40, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
Well, not really, but there isn't any word to say what it exactly is. This page tells you how many seeders/leechers we have as well as how many completely downloads of the file have been achieved. If we had two torrents, I think it will show individual torrent statistics. Nominaladversary 23:35, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
On Piratebay : http://thepiratebay.org/tor/3658466/Wikipedia_Release_Version_0.5 ... is that normal ? Kelson 10:54, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
Probably a silly question (I apologize) but does the distribution through other file-sharing protocols and networks such as Gnutella fall within the scope of this project, and is it acceptable to do so? (Just wanted to verify.) -- Shruti14 t c s 01:52, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
We hope to be able to have Version 0.7 published by the autumn. It should be a release of around 20,000-30,000 articles. Will this work OK with a Torrent format? Can you be ready for October/November time? Cheers, Walkerma ( talk) 07:17, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
For anyone else looking for a quick response: Yes, but 1 file only. Help (perhaps) needed.
Sorry for the delay again. Thanks for getting around to the torrent project though! Nominaladversary ( talk) 01:00, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
Things aren't really settled down yet, however, I'm going to try to get into touch with someone at BitTorrent, inc. so that a torrent release with substantial support can be legitimately available for the public, etc. Nominaladversary ( talk) 18:34, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
Ok. We've been silent long enough. I'm taking actions to get us our own tracker back, some decent hosting if necessary, and possibly an external site (for reference, and exploration --take that anyway you want--). First of all, we need to address some things:
First, we need to change the main/must achieve/last hurrah goal of this project, or rather, make it the absolute focus...and that is, making a .torrent file of the current WP selection dvd, and providing an adequate download service. We should not move on to a ED2K focus until this goal is completed.
This is possibly the biggest obstacle. We won't be able to have a decent alternative download source unless we have a large amount of people seeding the file, it is after all 3.5gb. Though the file size makes it ideal for a torrent release, we still need to make a base. Spreading the word is the first step, but we need to figure out how to maintain the base and offer reasons for further outreach. Let's contact bittorrent, inc, and all the big name torrent directories.
Trackers.Peers.Seeders.Magnet Links.Ratios.blah blah blah. The point is, what are the rules? What are the goals here? What formats? Why? Do we need to compress the image?
Seeing as the official-official and final releases is already torrent-able on the soschildren's website, we can assume that'll be their priority. All help is encouraged to their effort, however. Our focus shifts to every other release and broadening the audience to the project(via torrents of course!)--besides we don't wanna keep focus on just one place... The new year is coming. Nominaladversary ( talk) 01:42, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
"There is no need to mirror download sites of torrents, we have that covered. But posts at dump sites (piratebay, torrentz) are encouraged."
This sentence seems a bit ambiguous in meaning. I am not quite sure what it is saying. I also think that the entire page as a whole would be better if it were reorganized, but as I can't think of a better way to organize it, I shall leave that to someone else. Zell Faze ( talk) 20:05, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
For those who watch mainly this page - we are putting together another general collection of around 45,000 articles, to be called Version 0.8. This will test out our ability to automate the version selection, this being the main problem and delay we had for Version 0.7. I expect Version 0.8 to be produced much more quickly - perhaps by October. We are having an IRC meeting on Thursday July 29th on distribution of this release - please consider coming if you can (see WT:1).
Also, we will be producing an updated version of Version 0.7 quite soon, to be called 0.701. I believe there may be another Schools release in the works soon, so watch for that too. Is there anyone here who is able to help organize torrents for these three collections? Thanks, Walkerma ( talk) 03:39, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
UPDATE: We now have a selection of articles, and by this weekend (August 21st) we expect to see a list of revisionIDs to go with those articles. We will then consult with WikiProjects during September, and hopefully be ready to publish the selection in October. User:Kelson can start the seeding process from the Kiwix server - is there anyone here who can take the process from there? Walkerma ( talk) 05:26, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
FURTHER UPDATE: The ZIM file should be ready by around December 15th. Are people here ready to work with User:Kelson to do the torrent next week? Walkerma ( talk) 03:55, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
BETA AVAILABLE: The release mentioned above was rather buggy, but we think everything has been fixed now - see details. We're testing the beta version now, and hope to have the final release available in a week or two. I will try to recruit people to help with the Torrent. Anyone here able to help? Walkerma ( talk) 18:27, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
FINAL RELEASE NOW AVAILABLE: There is a Kiwix torrent file now available:
For the ZIM file without the reader software:
Please can you start the seeding etc? Thanks, Walkerma ( talk) 08:24, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
Also, please can you update the Torrent project page with the appropriate links? Thanks, Walkerma ( talk) 08:26, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
Admittedly I haven't been the most active in recent months (didn't even realize it was my WikiBirthday because I haven't been logged in). However, given the wikibreak of the coordinator, I would like to request as a ClearBits content uploader that I help as a co or acting coordinator until we hear more from our main coordinator.-- Ipatrol ( talk) 20:43, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
I'm at http://www.clearbits.net/creators/149-ipatrol if you want to follow me. Right now I'm writing a program to compile the articles listed in a CSV file on the toolserver into an offline collection. I use Python and python-wikitools so if anyone is willing to help me, I'll put it on Github and add you to the project.
Cheers. -- Ipatrol ( talk) 13:19, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
Hello! I am probably asking this question in the wrong place ... If you look at my editorial contributions, I just started, and I began on a fundraising page. I was making a proposal for the WMF to sell hard drives loaded with the encyclopedia. Then I got sent over here. I found a "donor" who would help the WMF get this proposal going. These pages are so detailed, I really don't understand what is currently available. Can you direct me to the correct place, please? LadyJosie ( talk) 17:30, 20 December 2011 (UTC)