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I think that we should include the URL of the sheet music. References should be set out so that they can be found as easily as possible, and the non-inclusion of a URL means that readers must manually search for the music themselves. When the subject of sheet music was brought up at WP:RSN, the reason for this was that an editor was unhappy with the site inviting people to download software. I don't really see an issue with this; we cite iTunes, Amazon and other retailers who offer downloads with URLs. Another point is that often there are several versions of a song listed, such as covers and karaoke versions, and it can be difficult to distinguish between them. Adabow ( talk · contribs) 08:54, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
It would be good if this article was expanded to include a paragraph or two on referencing printed sheet music. Most printed sheet music does not have an ISBN or ISMN and there is a lack of information, specifically, on referencing it. I notice on the back pages of sheet music a unique 7-character reference, LL NNNN N, which I assume to be a printing identifier. it would be good to know if this can be included in the wiki reference to help with the verification of sources. Genspeak ( talk) 09:34, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
Bots can quite frankly learn to deal with the real world. Musicnotes.com is not the publisher of the item quoted, it is the containing work. Fifelfoo ( talk) 23:55, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
It was previously concurred that the url should not be included as it does not show the entire published work and the URL is merely a host for the published work. I also have a few other issues with the way that you've laid the reference out. I'll post my interpretation of the reference shortly. -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 [talk] 00:27, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
Online sheet music sources such as MusicNotes are not in fact always reliable for the vocal registers of male singers. They notate the vocal melody as being in the treble clef which is one octave above what is actually sung by male singers in most cases rather than being notated in a modified treble clef with an 8 underneath it indicating the register is an octave below. Even the example given on this page for Usher is incorrect as the vocal range of You Make Me Wanna is Bb2 to C5 rather than Bb3 to C6. C6 is commonly known as Soprano C and does not appear in the song as it is outside of his vocal range.
This is an issue that I have seen often on songs sung by males where the Wikipedia article says that the range is an octave above what it actually is because MusicNotes notation is incorrect and is written as being in a female vocal register. Chukulem ( talk) 13:52, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
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I think that we should include the URL of the sheet music. References should be set out so that they can be found as easily as possible, and the non-inclusion of a URL means that readers must manually search for the music themselves. When the subject of sheet music was brought up at WP:RSN, the reason for this was that an editor was unhappy with the site inviting people to download software. I don't really see an issue with this; we cite iTunes, Amazon and other retailers who offer downloads with URLs. Another point is that often there are several versions of a song listed, such as covers and karaoke versions, and it can be difficult to distinguish between them. Adabow ( talk · contribs) 08:54, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
It would be good if this article was expanded to include a paragraph or two on referencing printed sheet music. Most printed sheet music does not have an ISBN or ISMN and there is a lack of information, specifically, on referencing it. I notice on the back pages of sheet music a unique 7-character reference, LL NNNN N, which I assume to be a printing identifier. it would be good to know if this can be included in the wiki reference to help with the verification of sources. Genspeak ( talk) 09:34, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
Bots can quite frankly learn to deal with the real world. Musicnotes.com is not the publisher of the item quoted, it is the containing work. Fifelfoo ( talk) 23:55, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
It was previously concurred that the url should not be included as it does not show the entire published work and the URL is merely a host for the published work. I also have a few other issues with the way that you've laid the reference out. I'll post my interpretation of the reference shortly. -- Lil_℧niquℇ №1 [talk] 00:27, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
Online sheet music sources such as MusicNotes are not in fact always reliable for the vocal registers of male singers. They notate the vocal melody as being in the treble clef which is one octave above what is actually sung by male singers in most cases rather than being notated in a modified treble clef with an 8 underneath it indicating the register is an octave below. Even the example given on this page for Usher is incorrect as the vocal range of You Make Me Wanna is Bb2 to C5 rather than Bb3 to C6. C6 is commonly known as Soprano C and does not appear in the song as it is outside of his vocal range.
This is an issue that I have seen often on songs sung by males where the Wikipedia article says that the range is an octave above what it actually is because MusicNotes notation is incorrect and is written as being in a female vocal register. Chukulem ( talk) 13:52, 15 October 2020 (UTC)