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Hello! I was checking the status on Ultraviolet, but it seems as though nothing has been going on lately. Am I missing out on something, have you abandoned Ultraviolet, or is activity low? Thanks. — 3PPYB6 — TALK — CONTRIBS — 14:25, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
Do I need to uninstall/comment out Redwarn or does it work alongside? — Paper9oll ( 🔔 • 📝) 07:35, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
mw.loader.load('/?title=User:RedWarn/.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript');
and add //
before it, after which just publish it. But do note that, all of your RedWarn saved preferences will be overwritten by Ultraviolet should you wish to move back to RedWarn or hop between both. —
Paper9oll (
🔔 •
📝)
13:42, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
importScript('User:RedWarn/.js')
). ―
Qwerfjkl
talk
09:14, 12 April 2022 (UTC)Hi! I'm Ed6767, the original creator of RedWarn, now one of the most popular tools on the English Wikipedia that's been used by over 1,000 Wikimedians to make over 300,000 edits since mid-2020 that's been praised for its user friendliness and ease of use, but criticised for its limited functionality. I'm leaving this message as I think it may be of interest here - I left the RedWarn project in November to develop Teyora, my successor to RedWarn (alongside Chlod's UltraViolet). It's a new in development web app that uses some of the latest web technologies to create a highly extendable all in one editing tool with a focus on administration, counter vandalism and general patrolling - not to mention, it'll work on every Wikimedia project without any prior configuration and can be used by any user with at least auto-confirmed rights*. Now, I'm ready to give the Wikimedia community a first look at what I've been doing over the past six months and what to expect going forward.
You can check out the 20 minute first look at the in development version on YouTube here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzlpnzXdLP4.
There's lots more to expect too! Why not read the full details page at meta:Teyora and leave any feedback, comments or wishes at meta:Talk:Teyora (please leave any correspondence there to keep discussion centralised). If you're interested, you can leave your signature
*with basic features, advanced features require configuration. To prevent abuse, auto-confirmed users will be in a restricted mode until approved by an admin or via rollback rights.
All the best, ✨ Ed talk! ✨ 22:56, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
Hello. Since Izno changed the main page reflecting consensus here that there should not be any portal links, RedWarn's page protection icons, alert on change icons, and et cetera causes text wrapping issues which causes Wikipedia's greeting to look awkward. I should point out that only my test account has Ultraviolet and my main account currently is sticking to RedWarn. Is there a way to fix this? Thanks.
Also, @ Izno—courtesy ping if you have ideas. — 3PPYB6 — TALK — CONTRIBS — 15:14, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
Ultraviolet's preferences.css causing the section's headers to be squeezed together because the below code is set the margin-top to 0px. Is there a reason to set top margin for section's header which is h2 to 0px?
.vector-body h2 { margin-top: 0; }
— Paper9oll ( 🔔 • 📝) 13:26, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
On pages like Special:Edit/User talk:117.213.137.185, the icons overlap the title (at least for me). A more minor issue is the hover text: as I'm on mobile, I obviously can't hover a cursor over the icons, so instead I click (tap) and hold them down. However, when I do this to multiple icons, the text doesn't hide, but overlaps. ― Qwerfjkl talk 14:02, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
So I have encountered quite a couple of bugs when testing out the beta version. These are following that I've encountered so far:
— Paper9oll ( 🔔 • 📝) 13:39, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
Hello. Today when I tried out Ultraviolet, I found some issues with the tools when testing it.
First couple of issues are already stated above in the previous section. Second issue is that when I tried to click the warning button on myself, with RW I would get a message "you cannot warn yourself", but when I tried that with UV, nothing happened at all. Third issue is that when I use the warn user again, and I do not add any comments at the end, the implementation of this ( such as {{Uw-vandalism1|Test|}} will cause the "Thank you" part at the end to be omitted, which can be WP:BITEY to new users. This issue was also present with RW but was eventually fixed. For some reason it is happening again on UV. Fourth issue is after I revert a edit, the post revert options will show over Twinkle buttons. In RW the options will show below the buttons. Although this is not really a issue (since these will not work because the revert has already been done), I feel this is significant since this issue since I have never encountered such a issue with other user scripts before and it does not happen with RW, so please have this issue along with the issues I mentioned above looked at. Thanks. User3749 ( talk) 11:48, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
Hello, I've noticed another unusual thing with UV. The oversight and T&S report buttons appear even if it is not a diff/user, and it even appears on articles. Is it a issue or is it intentional (since if a page is a death threat, for example, but it would make more sense to report the user who made the threat)? This does not happen with RW, so I want this to be explained. Thanks. User3749 ( talk) 10:49, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
The preferences under "accessibility", and the bottom preference under "revert", don't change when clicked - they appear as rectangles with rounded corners (all the time). Qwerfjkl talk 10:56, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
Hello. I tested Ultraviolet's "warn" module on my test account, and I have two things to say.
1) I noticed that the summaries do not include the warning level. For example, if I warned someone about vandalism, it would straight up say "Vandalism (UV 0.1.0)". This should be fixed to something like "Note: (reason for warning) (UV (a.b.c))".
2) When warning users who have made vandalism in Level 1/2 warnings, would it be possible to change "vandalism" to "unconstructive editing" like Twinkle does it? Saying a blatant "vandalism" in the edit summary might be interpreted as being a bit WP:BITEy to some new users.
Thanks. — 3PPYB6 — TALK — CONTRIBS — 14:45, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
When using Ultraviolet with 2017 wikitext editor enabled, the action buttons will overlap with the toolbar's dropdown menu as the Help menu, the Edit notice menu, the Page options (hamburger) menu, and the Switch editor menu. — Paper9oll ( 🔔 • 📝) 13:19, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
<textarea>...</textarea>
, fill it with the text, select the text, and copy the text, then remove the <textarea>...</textarea>
.Thanks for your work on this! ― Qwerfjkl talk 11:55, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
The bug report button above is currently kind of broken, because clicking on it and after filling in the details, it will instead post the discussion onto Wikipedia talk:RedWarn which is a redirect which I unknowingly did with this revision lol. — Paper9oll ( 🔔 • 📝) 13:24, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
{{fullurl:Wikipedia talk:RedWarn|action=edit§ion=new&preload=Wikipedia:RedWarn/Talk/preload-bug}}
which appears to still be taking it from WT:RW. Looks like an easy fix, just changing all instances of RW in the Wikitext to UV, but I don't know if the components have been moved over to the ultraviolet talk page yet. ―
Blaze Wolf
TalkBlaze Wolf#6545
13:32, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
I'm using RedWarn. Recently, when I've used the "Restore this version" button, no popup is generated asking for a reason, it just redirects me to a diff of this revision compared to the current revision and doesn't actually restore anything. FozzieHey ( talk) 16:20, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
rw.info.loadRevisionPermalinkPage
and this is the intended behaviour, although it wouldn't take long to make the button work without redirecting but I feel like the pro of the current functionality is that you can actually see the changes you'll be making ✨
Ed
talk! ✨
22:07, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
This page is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Hello! I was checking the status on Ultraviolet, but it seems as though nothing has been going on lately. Am I missing out on something, have you abandoned Ultraviolet, or is activity low? Thanks. — 3PPYB6 — TALK — CONTRIBS — 14:25, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
Do I need to uninstall/comment out Redwarn or does it work alongside? — Paper9oll ( 🔔 • 📝) 07:35, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
mw.loader.load('/?title=User:RedWarn/.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript');
and add //
before it, after which just publish it. But do note that, all of your RedWarn saved preferences will be overwritten by Ultraviolet should you wish to move back to RedWarn or hop between both. —
Paper9oll (
🔔 •
📝)
13:42, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
importScript('User:RedWarn/.js')
). ―
Qwerfjkl
talk
09:14, 12 April 2022 (UTC)Hi! I'm Ed6767, the original creator of RedWarn, now one of the most popular tools on the English Wikipedia that's been used by over 1,000 Wikimedians to make over 300,000 edits since mid-2020 that's been praised for its user friendliness and ease of use, but criticised for its limited functionality. I'm leaving this message as I think it may be of interest here - I left the RedWarn project in November to develop Teyora, my successor to RedWarn (alongside Chlod's UltraViolet). It's a new in development web app that uses some of the latest web technologies to create a highly extendable all in one editing tool with a focus on administration, counter vandalism and general patrolling - not to mention, it'll work on every Wikimedia project without any prior configuration and can be used by any user with at least auto-confirmed rights*. Now, I'm ready to give the Wikimedia community a first look at what I've been doing over the past six months and what to expect going forward.
You can check out the 20 minute first look at the in development version on YouTube here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzlpnzXdLP4.
There's lots more to expect too! Why not read the full details page at meta:Teyora and leave any feedback, comments or wishes at meta:Talk:Teyora (please leave any correspondence there to keep discussion centralised). If you're interested, you can leave your signature
*with basic features, advanced features require configuration. To prevent abuse, auto-confirmed users will be in a restricted mode until approved by an admin or via rollback rights.
All the best, ✨ Ed talk! ✨ 22:56, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
Hello. Since Izno changed the main page reflecting consensus here that there should not be any portal links, RedWarn's page protection icons, alert on change icons, and et cetera causes text wrapping issues which causes Wikipedia's greeting to look awkward. I should point out that only my test account has Ultraviolet and my main account currently is sticking to RedWarn. Is there a way to fix this? Thanks.
Also, @ Izno—courtesy ping if you have ideas. — 3PPYB6 — TALK — CONTRIBS — 15:14, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
Ultraviolet's preferences.css causing the section's headers to be squeezed together because the below code is set the margin-top to 0px. Is there a reason to set top margin for section's header which is h2 to 0px?
.vector-body h2 { margin-top: 0; }
— Paper9oll ( 🔔 • 📝) 13:26, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
On pages like Special:Edit/User talk:117.213.137.185, the icons overlap the title (at least for me). A more minor issue is the hover text: as I'm on mobile, I obviously can't hover a cursor over the icons, so instead I click (tap) and hold them down. However, when I do this to multiple icons, the text doesn't hide, but overlaps. ― Qwerfjkl talk 14:02, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
So I have encountered quite a couple of bugs when testing out the beta version. These are following that I've encountered so far:
— Paper9oll ( 🔔 • 📝) 13:39, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
Hello. Today when I tried out Ultraviolet, I found some issues with the tools when testing it.
First couple of issues are already stated above in the previous section. Second issue is that when I tried to click the warning button on myself, with RW I would get a message "you cannot warn yourself", but when I tried that with UV, nothing happened at all. Third issue is that when I use the warn user again, and I do not add any comments at the end, the implementation of this ( such as {{Uw-vandalism1|Test|}} will cause the "Thank you" part at the end to be omitted, which can be WP:BITEY to new users. This issue was also present with RW but was eventually fixed. For some reason it is happening again on UV. Fourth issue is after I revert a edit, the post revert options will show over Twinkle buttons. In RW the options will show below the buttons. Although this is not really a issue (since these will not work because the revert has already been done), I feel this is significant since this issue since I have never encountered such a issue with other user scripts before and it does not happen with RW, so please have this issue along with the issues I mentioned above looked at. Thanks. User3749 ( talk) 11:48, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
Hello, I've noticed another unusual thing with UV. The oversight and T&S report buttons appear even if it is not a diff/user, and it even appears on articles. Is it a issue or is it intentional (since if a page is a death threat, for example, but it would make more sense to report the user who made the threat)? This does not happen with RW, so I want this to be explained. Thanks. User3749 ( talk) 10:49, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
The preferences under "accessibility", and the bottom preference under "revert", don't change when clicked - they appear as rectangles with rounded corners (all the time). Qwerfjkl talk 10:56, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
Hello. I tested Ultraviolet's "warn" module on my test account, and I have two things to say.
1) I noticed that the summaries do not include the warning level. For example, if I warned someone about vandalism, it would straight up say "Vandalism (UV 0.1.0)". This should be fixed to something like "Note: (reason for warning) (UV (a.b.c))".
2) When warning users who have made vandalism in Level 1/2 warnings, would it be possible to change "vandalism" to "unconstructive editing" like Twinkle does it? Saying a blatant "vandalism" in the edit summary might be interpreted as being a bit WP:BITEy to some new users.
Thanks. — 3PPYB6 — TALK — CONTRIBS — 14:45, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
When using Ultraviolet with 2017 wikitext editor enabled, the action buttons will overlap with the toolbar's dropdown menu as the Help menu, the Edit notice menu, the Page options (hamburger) menu, and the Switch editor menu. — Paper9oll ( 🔔 • 📝) 13:19, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
<textarea>...</textarea>
, fill it with the text, select the text, and copy the text, then remove the <textarea>...</textarea>
.Thanks for your work on this! ― Qwerfjkl talk 11:55, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
The bug report button above is currently kind of broken, because clicking on it and after filling in the details, it will instead post the discussion onto Wikipedia talk:RedWarn which is a redirect which I unknowingly did with this revision lol. — Paper9oll ( 🔔 • 📝) 13:24, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
{{fullurl:Wikipedia talk:RedWarn|action=edit§ion=new&preload=Wikipedia:RedWarn/Talk/preload-bug}}
which appears to still be taking it from WT:RW. Looks like an easy fix, just changing all instances of RW in the Wikitext to UV, but I don't know if the components have been moved over to the ultraviolet talk page yet. ―
Blaze Wolf
TalkBlaze Wolf#6545
13:32, 21 April 2022 (UTC)
I'm using RedWarn. Recently, when I've used the "Restore this version" button, no popup is generated asking for a reason, it just redirects me to a diff of this revision compared to the current revision and doesn't actually restore anything. FozzieHey ( talk) 16:20, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
rw.info.loadRevisionPermalinkPage
and this is the intended behaviour, although it wouldn't take long to make the button work without redirecting but I feel like the pro of the current functionality is that you can actually see the changes you'll be making ✨
Ed
talk! ✨
22:07, 29 April 2022 (UTC)