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Furthermore, i bet ya Manjurian people or some people from the Prefecture of Wu or some Aboriginals in Australia don't have the slightest clue who the pope is. Project2501a 22:57, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
Bad captioning (from Pope Benedict XVI) | Good captioning (from Jürgen Habermas) |
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You see, Habermas is that guy on the left. GregorB 20:48, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
Here goes nothing. Improvements coming! Ronbo76 01:25, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
Now that wikilinks have been provided, how can this essay be improved? Be WP:BOLD! Ronbo76 01:47, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
Just curious, why is it in there? It has absolutely nothing to do with the essay. — Signed, your friendly neighborhood MessedRocker. 20:23, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
I find as a UK centric editor, who speaks the international language of English, it is merely necessary when writing to keep in mind that an American might be reading. MickMacNee ( talk) 00:51, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
Only the Latin pope is Catholic. The Coptic Pope is Coptic, etc-- thus the need for Pope (disambiguation)#Religious offices.
This section of the essay ironically highlights another problem with Wikipedia:
The problem is that the editors who wrote this section seem to think that Paris, Texas will do, whereas Paris, France is deemed necessary. If we need to state France, then we absolutely, certainly need to state Paris, Texas, United States. The US systemic bias in Wikipedia is massive - so many pages with US content stop at naming the state and don't bother with the country, assuming that the reader will naturally know that Utah or Colorado or Florida is in the United States. Try this - hit 'random article' and see how many pages to do with non-US countries/people/events etc mention the country (my test gave 91%) and how many US-related pages mention the country (my test gave 26%). See the problem? Assuming 'The Pope is Catholic' has a massive problem when it comes to US-related content, and this hasn't even been addressed in this essay.
I have, unsurprisingly, edited the offending section in the essay to include United States. 86.134.26.104 ( talk) 08:17, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
"Paris, France" sounds to me like what people from the USA say. "Paris" is not ambiguous, it means THE Paris. I think that is "commonly understood". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.20.158.134 ( talk) 12:16, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
There's more than one Paris, but not (to my knowledge) more than one Texas that has a Paris. But if a man spends a night "in Paris", is he in France, is he in the southern USA, or is he banging Ms. Hilton? -- Damian Yerrick ( talk) 20:23, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
"This also provides an opportunity to build the web by linking 'France', i.e., ' Paris, France'." I believe the current consensus is to unlink the word "France" (except in a few articles like Paris), and probably unlink Paris too, according to WP:OVERLINK. Art LaPella ( talk) 18:56, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
This essay is silly and stupid. If you know what Catholicism is, you know that the Pope is Catholic; and if you know who the Pope is, you know enough about Catholicism to also know he's Catholic. Similarly, if you know what Paris is, you know it's in France; and it would be astonishingly difficult to learn what France is without also learning what Paris is.
I've actually come across this sort of illogic on Wikipedia before, people asking that sections from entire other articles linked only a click away instead be rehashed in an article, and that sentiment does not need a braindead essay up to reenforce it. 72.130.58.85 ( talk) 10:45, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
(Wow, 2015 was 6 years ago.)
1) That’s not what circular reasoning is.
2) You know, if I ask 10 people what Catholicism is, chances are that at least one of them won’t speak of the Pope at all within the sentence or two they give me. So there’s a hole in your reasoning.
3) Not sure I understand the logic behind being disruptive in order to make people agree with you. Assuming that that is what this was, and not an anger-induced public rant about something that got on your nerves. Anyone like that who happens to see this: On the off-chance that you actually care, please stop. I know you have better things to do, and in all likelihood, you know that, too. ISaveNewspapers ( talk) 08:12, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
Some people doubt the person being the effective head of
Vatican City is Catholic, such as
Sedevacantists,
Sedeprivationists,
Conclavists, or
Independent Catholics. One pope has been condemned as
heretics (
Pope Honorius I), another as schismatic (
Cadaver Synod), by the Catholic Church.
Pope Francis has been
accused of heresy by some mainstream Catholics (
including three hermits). Not sure if it is related, but some years later, Francis
stated in a catechesis that "The Church is the community of saved sinners. This is a beautiful definition. No one can exclude themselves from the Church. We are all saved sinners."
So, yes, I feel a citation is needed when talking about the pope's faith.
Veverve (
talk)
09:41, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
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Furthermore, i bet ya Manjurian people or some people from the Prefecture of Wu or some Aboriginals in Australia don't have the slightest clue who the pope is. Project2501a 22:57, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
Bad captioning (from Pope Benedict XVI) | Good captioning (from Jürgen Habermas) |
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You see, Habermas is that guy on the left. GregorB 20:48, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
Here goes nothing. Improvements coming! Ronbo76 01:25, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
Now that wikilinks have been provided, how can this essay be improved? Be WP:BOLD! Ronbo76 01:47, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
Just curious, why is it in there? It has absolutely nothing to do with the essay. — Signed, your friendly neighborhood MessedRocker. 20:23, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
I find as a UK centric editor, who speaks the international language of English, it is merely necessary when writing to keep in mind that an American might be reading. MickMacNee ( talk) 00:51, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
Only the Latin pope is Catholic. The Coptic Pope is Coptic, etc-- thus the need for Pope (disambiguation)#Religious offices.
This section of the essay ironically highlights another problem with Wikipedia:
The problem is that the editors who wrote this section seem to think that Paris, Texas will do, whereas Paris, France is deemed necessary. If we need to state France, then we absolutely, certainly need to state Paris, Texas, United States. The US systemic bias in Wikipedia is massive - so many pages with US content stop at naming the state and don't bother with the country, assuming that the reader will naturally know that Utah or Colorado or Florida is in the United States. Try this - hit 'random article' and see how many pages to do with non-US countries/people/events etc mention the country (my test gave 91%) and how many US-related pages mention the country (my test gave 26%). See the problem? Assuming 'The Pope is Catholic' has a massive problem when it comes to US-related content, and this hasn't even been addressed in this essay.
I have, unsurprisingly, edited the offending section in the essay to include United States. 86.134.26.104 ( talk) 08:17, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
"Paris, France" sounds to me like what people from the USA say. "Paris" is not ambiguous, it means THE Paris. I think that is "commonly understood". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.20.158.134 ( talk) 12:16, 10 December 2014 (UTC)
There's more than one Paris, but not (to my knowledge) more than one Texas that has a Paris. But if a man spends a night "in Paris", is he in France, is he in the southern USA, or is he banging Ms. Hilton? -- Damian Yerrick ( talk) 20:23, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
"This also provides an opportunity to build the web by linking 'France', i.e., ' Paris, France'." I believe the current consensus is to unlink the word "France" (except in a few articles like Paris), and probably unlink Paris too, according to WP:OVERLINK. Art LaPella ( talk) 18:56, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
This essay is silly and stupid. If you know what Catholicism is, you know that the Pope is Catholic; and if you know who the Pope is, you know enough about Catholicism to also know he's Catholic. Similarly, if you know what Paris is, you know it's in France; and it would be astonishingly difficult to learn what France is without also learning what Paris is.
I've actually come across this sort of illogic on Wikipedia before, people asking that sections from entire other articles linked only a click away instead be rehashed in an article, and that sentiment does not need a braindead essay up to reenforce it. 72.130.58.85 ( talk) 10:45, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
(Wow, 2015 was 6 years ago.)
1) That’s not what circular reasoning is.
2) You know, if I ask 10 people what Catholicism is, chances are that at least one of them won’t speak of the Pope at all within the sentence or two they give me. So there’s a hole in your reasoning.
3) Not sure I understand the logic behind being disruptive in order to make people agree with you. Assuming that that is what this was, and not an anger-induced public rant about something that got on your nerves. Anyone like that who happens to see this: On the off-chance that you actually care, please stop. I know you have better things to do, and in all likelihood, you know that, too. ISaveNewspapers ( talk) 08:12, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
Some people doubt the person being the effective head of
Vatican City is Catholic, such as
Sedevacantists,
Sedeprivationists,
Conclavists, or
Independent Catholics. One pope has been condemned as
heretics (
Pope Honorius I), another as schismatic (
Cadaver Synod), by the Catholic Church.
Pope Francis has been
accused of heresy by some mainstream Catholics (
including three hermits). Not sure if it is related, but some years later, Francis
stated in a catechesis that "The Church is the community of saved sinners. This is a beautiful definition. No one can exclude themselves from the Church. We are all saved sinners."
So, yes, I feel a citation is needed when talking about the pope's faith.
Veverve (
talk)
09:41, 29 March 2022 (UTC)