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To Sky Harbor, seav, Lenticel, titopao and Nino Gonzales. Just in case you don't regularly check you emails, I emailed you guys regarding some tips on how to register Wikimedia Philippines without needing P 1M. To the other participants, I wasn't able to email you guys because your email addresses are not readily available to me. If you are interested in these tips, please feel free to email by using the "Email this user" feature so that I can forward it to you. Thanks. -- Jojit fb 11:18, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
Moved to appropriate forum: Wikipedia talk:Meetup/Manila 3 -- Jojit fb 04:42, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
I'm questioning whether we really need the link (www.t-macs.com/kiso/local/) that's on practically every city and municipality article. First of all, the site is Japanese. And second, the 2000 census reference (as a footnote in the leading paragraph, or demographics section if the article is more than a stub) should ideally be under the references section and should link to the official NSO census report like this one for Zambales.
I guess we need a mini- task force for this? (Well, aren't we a WikiProject, too?) So I guess we need a Tambayan subpage to keep track of which provinces have been fixed already for this task. -- seav 19:25, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
Speaking of census data. Has anyone here downloaded all the 2000 census data text files from NSO? The NSO has just conducted the 2007 census and we don't know if they would replace the 2000 data or retain it for archival purposes. While we of course would need to update the population figures when the results come out, the 2000 data is still useful in the demographics section of articles (e.g. to show growth). -- seav 02:53, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
Do we really need to include the daily ratings of TV programs in their articles? I noticed that the MariMar and Kokey articles have daily rating in their respective articles and I think that they should be removed per WP:NOT. - Danngarcia 16:40, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
This is just tahong. Yup, the green mussel found in the marketplace that kills during red tide season. I think it needs a picture (I have no digicam) before it gets DYK'ed (I can't nom my own creation right?). Thanks in advance. -- Lenticel ( talk) 01:09, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
mined the commons but all I got was a black and white picture which is not a good image for the mussel-- Lenticel ( talk) 09:59, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
UPDATE: already a DYK nom-- Lenticel ( talk) 23:00, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
Added B&W image but will still wait for a colored one -- Lenticel ( talk) 04:31, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
Read this NYT article. Written by an Atenean. POV? Hehehe. :-) -- seav 17:57, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
I know this is not the venue for this but i was just struck. Some prominent universities here in Philippines don't believe the reliability, credibility and veracity of Wikipedia as a source for it has many contributors and the likelihood that it is not reliable anymore. BritandBeyonce ( talk• contribs) 12:21, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
Whoa. Let's clarify first. Reliable and credible for what? As a former UP professor specializing in social science research, I rarely if ever allowed a Wikipedia entry to be used as a reference in a manuscript or paper. But that's not saying I think Wikipedia is not a reliable and credible source of information. (I would think since I'm a Wikipedian, it should be taken for granted that I believe Wikipedia is credible!) That's because I have come to insist that researchers ALWAYS look for primary or secondary literature in whatever field they're covering. Which is to say I did not allow students to cite Wikipedia, which is tertiary literature. But at the same time, I also refused to accept citations from other encyclopedias - which are also tertiary literature. The same goes for dictionaries, almanacs, and other Gen. Ref. materiel. I used to tell my students that they can use encyclopedias, dictionaries, almanacs, etc, as starting points for research, but not as citations. What they're supposed to do is look for the sources cited by the article, and examine those sources, making sure that they are using those sources in the correct context. (There are rare exceptions, of course, but by the time I allow the student to use an encyclopedia, they're usually begging me to allow them to because they can't find or afford the sources cited by the article concerned.) I understand your concern, though. Before I really looked into how Wikipedia did things, I was quizzical myself. But eventually people who are exposed to Wikipedia will be convinced of what a good thing it is. It just takes time. :-) Alternativity 15:41, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
Heck, I agree. Citing Wikipedia as a source in a college paper is just sloppy. TheCoffee 22:06, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
Not a sad thing but actually a good thing. I don't want students getting too lazy to go to the library-- Lenticel ( talk) 00:19, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
I'd say, the hell with it. Let's just all enjoy this wiki wiki world while it lasts ;] †Bloodpack† 05:52, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
The "Philippines" article is really in need of a complete overhaul. Even the Introduction part of the article is sloppy enough. I'm sure you guys are aware of the recent vandalisms (as well as some innocent misinformed newbies) about the Philippines article. I suggest that you closely monitor it and place it under "Editing for Members" only. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.175.228.108 ( talk • contribs)
Greetings. I know little about the Philippines. I came to the article Baguio City (linked from World Chess Championship#Karpov and Kasparov (1975-1993)) and read the opening sentence:
I had absolutely no idea what "1st class highly urbanized" meant, and I hit "Edit" in order to delete these words as I assumed they were just nonsense. I discovered that the wikilink under "city" went to Cities of the Philippines and that 1st class highly urbanized means something very specific. So I've changed the wikilink to:
which gives the non-Filipino reader a clue that this is actually something that is meaningful. I suggest that a similar change should be made to any similar wording in other Philippines city articles: Zamboanga City is one; I'm sure there are many others. jnestorius( talk) 00:38, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
The Commission on Audit has recently published in major dailies, the income of all cities and municipalities in the Philippines, there were at least a number which weren't able to submit their financial reports as of July 15, 2007, which was the cut-off date, they may provide additional item in our infoboxes. -- Scorpion prinz ( Talk | contribs) 14:21, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
I can't believe we still don't have an article on this. This is almost as important as the Hello Garci scandal because this also affects the Philippines' foreign relations with PRC. The Manila Times also has a feature today on Benjamin Abalos which we can use to beef up his biography. -- seav 01:49, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
I think its just The Philippine National Broadband Network controversy, and without a year †Bloodpack† 03:29, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
i think for now its "controversy" because the issue is still under investigation/ongoing, but as soon as we have a verdict, then we can call it a "scandal(?)" †Bloodpack† 05:59, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
[1]. The affidavits, the contract and other stuff. Good for references. Check them out.-- Lenticel ( talk) 09:48, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
These pages were moved to their respective callsigns without discussing it first to their respective talk pages and most FM stations here in the Philippines are more known by their brand names and not their callsigns. Thanks! - Danngarcia 13:24, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
Despite the presence of various Wiki Projects, Philippine related articles really needs attention:
and so much more. Why don't we post targets in the page for Filipino Wikipedians know what to do? BritandBeyonce ( talk• contribs) 10:36, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
I've kinda gotten lost. What happened again to our rotating "wiki sub-project of the month" idea fom Manila 2? Sorry guys I had a lot of real-life concerns to take care of after Manila 2 and havent quite recovered yet. Alternativity 15:23, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
So what's our action regarding the WikiProject? -- seav 15:06, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
Maybe we could start with the rotating sub-project thingy (I think I already left when this was discussed, my family was too impatient). Let's do just one to test the waters or a mini- Wikipedia:Article Collaboration and Improvement Drive for one specific Phil. article.
Hey, did you formulate a plan to get females involved in the Wikiproject? I can't seem to do it on my own-- Lenticel ( talk) 23:37, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
Additionally, what about the name? Regarding the Emir214 affair, it was argued that the Tambayan is a WikiProject in all but name only (though an inactive one at that). Do we still stick with "Tambayan" or do we formally adopt the "WikiProject" title. Consider also that the Tambayan effectively functions as a regional noticeboard right now. I personally don't think we need separate main pages for a WikiProject Philippines and a Philippine Regional Notice-board. -- seav 05:26, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
Philippine-related articles |
Importance | ||||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Top | High | Mid | Low | None | Total | ||
Quality | |||||||
FA | 5 | 3 | 1 | 9 | |||
A | 1 | 1 | |||||
GA | 6 | 2 | 7 | 6 | 21 | ||
B | 80 | 22 | 25 | 26 | 3 | 156 | |
Start | 107 | 95 | 155 | 136 | 11 | 504 | |
Stub | 29 | 37 | 92 | 173 | 39 | 370 | |
Assessed | 228 | 159 | 279 | 342 | 53 | 1061 | |
Unassessed | 0 | 1 | 1 | 7 | 1 | 10 | |
Total | 228 | 160 | 280 | 349 | 54 | 1071 |
Yay! We finally broke the 1,000 tagged articles count, but there are still tons of untagged Philippine-related articles. Do you share! -- seav 14:47, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
User:TTN is starting to annoy me. Obviously, this person has some issues based on the messages hes been receiving in his talkpage from other fellow editors. Now, I placed a warning (template) on his talkpage regarding an image that he uploaded, but instead of adhering to the message, he just deleted it. I know its his talkpage, but disregarding a policy is another thing. Is there any warning (templates) to warn him of his actions? †Bloodpack† 23:01, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
Perhaps we could present what we, the Philippine community, are doing. Maybe some VC would be interested in helping out in setting up the local community. I'm sure some of them are interested in a non-profit.-- Nino Gonzales 05:21, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
Hi. I just tagged a number of Language and Tribe related articles and would like to ask a question for consistency's sake.
What I'd been doing all night long was to
and then
I'm not sure of my categorizations as I was just breezing through the articles. Finding Chabacano labelled Top made me think twice about some of my categorizations. I just realized I'd probably underestimated the number of Chabacano speakers.
Could someone maybe go through my evaluations and perhaps correct me? Or is there a list that sorts these languages according to number of speakers? I'd hate to be told I'm undermining the value of our indigenous languages - they are very important to me. So I'd appreciate categorization help, please? Thanks.
On the other hand, next week, I'll have more time to sort languages more carefully according to number of speakers. Hehe. I'm really asking because I suddenly realized I might have commited a number of embarrasing faux pases. Alternativity 17:37, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
Eep. 607,000 Chabacano speakers. And 1.1 Million Kinaray-a speakers. I can actually FEEL the tomatoes pelting me. (Moving Kinaray-a to Top now.) Or should I just avoid this altogether and sort all the languages as top priority? Alternativity 17:55, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
It would be better if you left them unassessed for now and wait for a language expert to do the job. I think you could request User:Christopher Sundita to do this.-- Lenticel ( talk) 20:32, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
Personally, I'd label them all as top no matter the number of speakers. -- Chris S. 04:18, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
I saw the Golden Tara at a UCLA art exhibition in 1981; I even have a picture of it in the exhibition catalog: p.74 of The People and Art of the Philippines, by Father Gabriel Casal & Regalado Trota Jose, Jr., Eric S. Casino, George R. Ellis, Wilhelm G. Solheim II. The catalog is copyrighted by the Regents of the University of California. Now that I know its copyright status, the next time I get to the Field Museum (The link below claims the Golden Tara is in a Gold Room; the museum has exhibits for jewels, Indians, Dinosaurs, Birds, etc) I will look more carefully for it, and attempt to snap a color picture of the statue for the encyclopedia. The statue is about the height of a computer screen, 1.8 kg of pure gold. It was once in the possession of a coconut export company and was purchased by the Field Museum. In all my visits to the museum, I have never seen the statue there, although I have looked for it. A history of the statue can be found here. -- Ancheta Wis 18:45, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
According to Dr. Bennet Bronson of the Field Museum, what I saw at UCLA is referred to as the Agusan Image and that it was scheduled to be part of an exhibit in the Philippines until some complications occurred there. According to Dr Bronson, the Museum still hopes to exhibit it in the Philippines. I now believe the Golden Tara of Butuan is not the same as the Agusan Image. The Agusan Image has been the subject of extensive writing, so I hope to follow up on this. -- Ancheta Wis 11:01, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
This has very little to do with the Philippines, and even less with Philippine-related Wikipedia content, but I found the recent extremely lengthy discussion about the move from Myanmar to Burma at Talk:Burma, very enlightening. I personally would've preferred the status quo (Myanmar) but the discussion reveals quite a lot about the behind-the-scenese working of Wikipedia, including the notion of systemic bias. -- seav 06:16, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
Hehe. I found this article while assessing stuff. Can you help expand or at least give a picture?-- Lenticel ( talk) 11:05, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
so mongrel or pariah dog doesnt fall under aspin dog? they are a different thing? sorry makulit ako hehehe †Bloodpack† 23:52, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
I don't understand, in the ORIGIN section, it states In 1924 Philippine Philippine mastiffs to be registered as purebreds. If this species has been registered in the Philippines, does it mean it has been adopted as a Philippine breed? Meaning, it's ours? †Bloodpack† 14:22, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
Is a TV station's callsign the standard naming convention for the Philippine TV station's article? I have observed that the standard Television station naming convention (see Wikipedia:WikiProject Television Stations) is applied to the U.S. stations (and maybe adopted by other North and Central American TV station articles). - Frj1947 21:04, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
I just came across this AfD for a Bulacan barangay and I think we need to decide in a sort of final manner the Tambayan's consensus stand on barangay articles.
Here are some references:
My personal conviction is that no articles on individual barangays should exist at all. If ever there will be articles on barangays then they should be consolidated articles like List of Pokémon (21-40), which used to be separate individual Pokemon articles. But I will admit that I grew up in Metro Manila and I have no home province (unless you consider Rizal and Bulacan, pre-Metro Manila), so my concept of barangays are kinda limited. There are actually barangays in the provinces that are larger than municipalities both in area and population, so I may revise my position that the existence of barangay articles may be decided on a case-to-case basis, just like the way Pikachu has his own article.
-- seav 20:09, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
Ok, let's test our discussion in the field I just started an Afd for a Baranggay. see the project page . -- Lenticel ( talk) 11:19, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
Welcome to the Tambayan Philippines Collaboration Department! This is part of the proposed dual nature of the Tambayan Philippines: first and foremost, it is a regional noticeboard for Philippine-related articles, and it is now a WikiProject for the Philippine-related articles. The nomination phase for Collaboration #1 is ongoing. Please nominate other articles!
Anyway, we do plan on doing some sort of collaboration-type activites, right? Well, I started the department page to get the ball rolling and hopefully we can avoid the ningas cogon mentality this time around. Anyway, can some enterprising soul modify the Tambayan main page to add the two departments (Assessment and Collaboration) to gain visibility? :D -- seav 07:12, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
Comments and suggestions? Please place it in the department talk page. -- seav 09:06, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
Voting for collaboration #1 is now ongoing, please add your votes, even if it is abstain. Thanks! -- seav 11:04, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
Please update the announcement. Thanks -- Filipinayzd —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.1.25.82 ( talk) 21:12, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
Here are the partial list of users. We could invite some of them in our meetings. -- Exec8 01:17, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
Hi all, a few of us are working up vampire for a crack at FAC sometime soon. There is a mention of a philipino vampire-like creature called a manananggal. Was wondering whether anyone had a folklore book which could be cited as a reference with it in. cheers, Casliber ( talk · contribs) 11:01, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
Ok, will add books in the article soon.-- Lenticel ( talk) 11:24, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
I added what I could from my collection. I haven't integrated the references into the body yet, though, so i placed them under "see also". I'm sure Lenticel has a few more. :-D Alternativity 14:55, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
I should also point out that if it's a vampire equivalent you're looking for, the Aswang also fits the bill - perhaps even more so because there are some sources that identify the Manananggal only as a subcategory of Aswang, made distinct only by their ability to split their body. Both creatures are known for eating people's innards. Let me point out here, since I cant add it to the main article, that I suspect the counterindications for Aswang and Mananangal (and a bunch of other Filipino mythical creatures) have been significantly influenced by Spanish religious practice. (Which is why I think many of the counterindications match those for European creatures... but that's just me for now I haven't found a sound reference for the evolution of these myths) Casliber, I'm afraid I cant be much help right now with the references as I have a rather bad flu and I can only spend so much time sitting down. hehe. -- Alternativity 03:53, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
I commented here because the Wikiproject for Philippine LGUs is inactive. Really, i dont like how the list municipalities for particular provinces are edited. BritandBeyonce ( talk• contribs) 01:46, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
A milestone has been set in the Tagalog Wikipedia, it has now more than 10,000 articles but most of them are stubs about artistas and various geographic places. The credit goes to Wikiboost (suspected to be a bot) for the sudden increase of articles. Personally, I prefer quality over quantity. So far, there are only 13 featured articles, which were identified by the community. I had also been promoting balance of articles in the wiki by completing this list - tl:Wikipedia:Listahan ng mga artikulo na kailangan ng lahat ng wika, the equivalent of Wikipedia:Vital articles. By the way the 10,000th article is Bantayan, Cebu by Mananaliksik -- Jojit ( talk) 00:32, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
You guys think it deserves an article? Here's a Y! source so far. [2] Shrumster 08:01, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
The Ayala Center coverage is actually pretty much a copyvio of the Inquirer.net article and needs to be cleaned up. :( -- seav 10:07, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
Since Shrumster is working on Glorietta, I'll fix the Ayala one instead.-- Lenticel ( talk) 11:50, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
This was recently added to the site:
"Risci, up to now, is still not Department of Science and Technology (DOST) accredited and recognized as a science high school."
and it has no citation.
I see that this is something the school admin would have problems with, as its likely an embarrassing situation to them.
Still, I'm not sure what the correct action is here. Is this information irrelevant? I'm not sure. Is this information non-factual? I'm not sure either. Is it NPOV... I don't think so, but I think its on the border. But, no, it has no citation. That at least is obvious.
I've looked at the history of the site and, yes, this is one of those lines that keep getting added and getting removed and added and getting removed. I haven't been a wikipedian that long and I'm wondering what everybody thinks. Alternativity 23:56, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
Does anyone know what agency of the DOST accredits science high schools? And we should have an article for science high schools so others may know what's the big deal about these. -- Howard the Duck 15:54, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
Everybody who is creating Philippine-related articles seems to be assuming that there is a page on every building or mall in there. It's a pain looking at all those red links and reading so much irrelevant information about malls and stuff, and in the end, many of them still don't make it past stub class. Take a look at the file histories of Ortigas Center, Ayala Center and others if you don't know what I mean. æt ə rnal ðrAعon 05:06, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
Sorry for being lethargic during the entire Meetup. I just came from a family get-together in Laguna. I have learned the hard way that indefinite rounds of table tennis and billiards and hours of swimming coupled with three hours of sleep greatly increases fatigue and the chance of waking up aching all over and reduces your the effectiveness of your mental faculties for the rest of the day. Anyways I'll try to comment on what I can remember on the meeting. Add anything that I missed. Comments are welcome.
WikiPilipinas is an enemy simply because the public might get confused why there are two wikis for the Philippines. They are a good partner because we can piggyback on their events thus benefiting both parties. We get promoted and WikiPilipinas will have a more distinct identity away from Wikipedia.
Pls do help me with this image. Thanks. -- BritandBeyonce ( talk• contribs) 03:51, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
I came across the following three related images:
TheCoffee's image shows the source, but I don't know where LordAntagonist got his. What do we make of these? -- seav 01:32, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
See how Bohol is being edited. Isn't it bad? Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and not a list of stuffs like that. Yah, it factual but it needs a thorough overhaul. PS, consider the images associated. -- BritandBeyonce ( talk• contribs) 11:58, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
I think there are two important matters we need to address:
Anyway, for the first one, if you know any Bikol contacts (preferably university professors or linguists), do refer them to me and I'll refer them to the languages subcommittee.
Well, what do you know. Tarlac City has been a highly-urbanized city since October 27, 2005, according to President Proclamation No. 940. Our related articles are outdated. I was alerted to this fact by an edit summary to Tarlac. I wonder how many other cities are actually highly-urbanized now. Anyway, I'm modifying the various articles now: Cities of the Philippines, Tarlac, Tarlac City, {{ Philippine_cities}}. Any others I'm forgetting? -- seav 08:43, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
Pardon news article-- Lenticel ( talk) 10:08, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
Quezon will be split into two after Republic Act 9495 lapsed into law last September 7. When will the plebiscite be conducted? -- Exec8 22:49, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
ABS-CBN has done it again. They have posted a black-and-white picture of seav's map of Rodriguez, Rizal for the news " Rodriguez dump reopened for Rizal trash only" without proper consent. Something must be done about this. - 203.87.129.111 11:47, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
I got a nice e-mail reply from Joel Sarancho, head of Online News for ABS-CBN. Since I do not have permission to reproduce the whole e-mail reply yet, let me quote the relevant part:
“ | We apologize for the unauthorized use. Please note it is NOT a policy of ABS-CBN,
much less abs-cbnnews.com to disregard ownership of intellectual property. The use of your licensed image is an isolated case of acting in haste. |
” |
Cool! I guess we just need to send polite e-mails to those concerned. Hopefully other media organizations can heed this example as well. -- seav 14:10, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
WTF?! Practically all of the domains related to the 2005 SEA Games are gone. Aaarrghh!!! If I known that the PSC or POC would let the website rot, I would've stored a copy of all the pages, copyright be damned! -- seav 16:50, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
Currently, there's a slow-motion edit war at the Manila article; two anons are reverting each other for the lead picture. Either an admin semi-protects it or we revert the infobox to the one that's used for all LGU articles so that there won't be a lead pic. -- Howard the Duck 13:22, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
I'm thinking about this. Anyone else think it is a good idea? -- Howard the Duck 07:40, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
dont you all think its time that we use a bot to archive this talkpage? †Bloodpack† 03:10, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
i would love to do it, but im having a hard time understanding the method =/ sorry guys †Bloodpack† 23:25, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
Contact the bot's owner. Maybe s/he can help.-- Lenticel ( talk) 07:49, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
BTW, we could also start with the automatic archiving of the Tambayan with User:MiszaBot_III Like Bloodpack, I'm not good with coding. -- Lenticel ( talk) 11:54, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
We have automatic archiving now! Courtesy of the bot's owner. Thank him when you got the chance ok?-- Lenticel ( talk) 09:15, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
There is an edit war going on to the Zaido: Pulis Pangkalawakan, where an editor is persistent in adding a "controversy" section to the article. All of his provided sources are just blogs and discussion boards. Kindly help us so that the article will be neutral enough. Thanks! - Danngarcia 17:12, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
You are invited to join Oplan 15,000 on the Tagalog Wikipedia which aims to have 15,000 articles on or before December 25, 2007. See you there! - Auto007 14:49, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
Whoever creates the first article to break the 24,999 mark will get a PhP 1000 Sodexho gift certificate from me. It doesn't necessary be the 25,000th article.
The criterias are:
Administrators of english and Philippine language wikipedia are not qualified to participate. The winner will be notified by email with a confirmation code. The user will personally claim the prize at the scheduled PhilWiki meetup. -- Exec8 04:32, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
“ | Users edit what they want to edit; not what they are told to edit so they can get someone else to edit other stuff for them in return...-- h i s s p a c e r e s e a r c h 03:30, 21 February 2007 (UTC) | ” |
I've been aware of this regional project for quite a while now. What do you guys think of it? I don't quite see how they manage (if they even do), the very large overlap between that WikiProject and the various country subprojects. (For instance, Narra, Palawan, is tagged by their assessment department, which I find pretty weird.) We're being quite insular with our activities here in the Tambayan and I think we can better coordinate with the larger project on regional topics. Examples of wide-ranging articles that would benefit from regional cooperation are ASEAN, the various SEA Games articles, Spratly Islands, Kulintang, Wallace Line, and Durian. I guess we also need an ambassador of sorts, or at least one who keeps up with any important developments on that project. -- seav 02:05, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
I got to this inactive Wikiproject due to assessing Alena. I think the scope of the project, is mostly cruft aside from the main articles. If these articles are nominated in Afd, they will definitely get deleted. As an Afd watcher I have seen characters of even more notable shows get deleted. Nakakahiya naman kung iba pang tao ang mag-nominate. Anyways a massive merge/redirect/delete action is due. I don't watch GMA shows aside from documentaries and news programs so I won't be of help.-- Lenticel ( talk) 09:42, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
When I was starting to do my Mythology research project, I was shocked to find that searches for Mythological figures led me to more Encantadia articles than it led me to actual Philippine Mythology facts. (Often the Encantadia articles had more detail.) I never did watch the show, so I can't help much either. But I was always hopeful that this was our country's first step towards having a show like Star Trek, with all its inherent cultural significance nullifying the fact that its articles are pretty much all crufty, too. (That's 800 plus hours of viewing, most of which is covered by individual Wikis!) Whether it has actually achieved a similar status is, of course, highly doubtful, but part of me is screaming that the series is probably more important than we now think, with history revealing its full significance. A part of me is screaming that I don't want to see those entries deleted, but, as Spock would say, there is no way to quantify "part of oneself screaming." (Hehe. Did I just earn myself a Trekkie label? Hahahaha.) Alternativity 18:24, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
Hi guys, I have a little question. An article about Jonas Diego was created by User_talk:Jonasdiego himself. Most of the edits came from him himself. I know it violates WP:COI and WP:BIO since he made an article about himself even others (even I) made some few editions. Although the article may be notable, the fact that its created and mostly edited by himself makes the article questionable with regard to WP:COI. I just want to know if this article is qualified for AfD? †Bloodpack† 14:06, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
Interesting tools. Check them out:
And the winner for most talkative in WT:TAMBAY is... Howard the Duck! ( [5])-- Nino Gonzales 08:26, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
Should we give him a barnstar or something? :)-- Lenticel ( talk) 08:52, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
Just a few announcements:
Let's do some good! -- Sky Harbor 17:20, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
Former Senator Rene Saguisag was in a “critical” stage but was responding well to simple instructions, the report said. Article -- Exec8 23:05, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
Heck, if there's an article on London congestion charge, I think we should have an article for the traffic program we all love to hate. :-) -- seav 15:56, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
I invite all of you to participate in this discussion concerning the proposed renaming of the Tagalog Wikipedia from "Wikipedia" to "Wikipedya" just like the french, volapuk and other European wikis did in order to agree with their own local pronounciations and spellings. Here is the discussion: tl:WP:Wikipedya. -- Felipe Aira 11:51, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
Hi. The Kibungan, Benguet article may require some looking into in light of recent changes in the town's "branding," as reported in the Inquirer recently [6]. However, I honestly don't have the energy to do this myself. Hehe. Any volunteers? Alternativity 18:02, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
Done!-- Lenticel ( talk) 22:19, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
I propose Manila 4 to be in December. This fourth informal meet will have a get together or EB theme, some sort of a party-like theme. Since the past three meetings became more of a talking shop atmosphere. Before our 4th meeting, we have to iron out some things online.
Finally, I propose the creation of the fully organized Wikipedia Philippines foundation by April 2008. -- Exec8 05:34, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
I finally got to read it. Here's my take. I suggest we agree on a mission-vision statement first. The by-laws should flow from this mission-vision statement. Sorry to be the annoying devil's advocate again, but based on the way I see our situation, my understanding of our mission-vision and my gut feel on our progress in the next few years, the by-laws seem to be overkill. I highly doubt we can implement the bureaucracy proposed by the by-laws... do we even have the people to do accounting (treasurer), make meeting minutes (secretary), creating resolutions and approving them (the board)... and a more fundamental question is do we need this bureaucracy to reach our goals? Perhaps this is just a formality for the SEC approval. If that is so, you get my vote for the version of the document as of my signing of this comment (but if it could be simplified, that would be more preferable). I also think that we should make most decisions in the wiki and just use meetings for activities which really need it. -- Nino Gonzales 03:16, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
I made a script to collect a whole bunch of potentially unassessed Philippine-related articles. I did this by checking out which articles categorized under categories within 10 levels of Category:Philippines (ignoring the obviously non-Philippine-related categories like Category:World War II) are still unassessed. I got a total of about 6,800 still unassessed articles. Interestingly, I found out that there are about 9,100 possibly Philippine-related articles currently existing. (My estimate was about 5,000. Hehehe.) The worklist is transcluded below. Hopefully we can finish this worklist by November end. Enjoy tagging and assessing! -- seav 06:12, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
This is an index to all the currently potentially Philippine-related articles that are unassessed. The whole article list is broken down into batches of 100 articles.
If you're going to work on assessing a batch of articles, indicate that you're currently working on that batch by signing your name beside the link. If you're done with that batch, strike it out by surrounding the link with <s>...</s>. Please note that not all articles listed here are under the scope of the Tambayan Philippines. Please see the Scope section of the Assessment department page for details.
This is an index (batch 2) to all the currently potentially Philippine-related articles that are unassessed. The whole article list is broken down into batches of 100 articles.
If you're going to work on assessing a batch of articles, indicate that you're currently working on that batch by signing your name beside the link. If you're done with that batch, strike it out by surrounding the link with <s>...</s>. Please note that not all articles listed here are under the scope of the Tambayan Philippines. Please see the Scope section of the Assessment department page for details.
I don't think Zebra Dove be tagged/assessed because the bird almost belong to six countries. -- βritand&βeyonce ( talk• contribs) 07:47, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Here's a graph of the history of the Assessment tagging as on November 9. There is currently a backlog of about 6,500 possibly Philippine-related articles. I know it's kinda tedious, but please do your share. There's an excellent user script that you can use to make tagging much, much easier; please see the first section in the assessment talk page Thanks! -- seav 05:50, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
This graph is officially located on the assessment department page.
Additionally, I think that they are the rock music icon in the Philippines. So I guess, the article should be of High-importance? -- seav 05:19, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
The word tambayan does not mean a place for hanging out, instead it should mean a place for idling. Tambay means to idle. J2 - a messy profile ilyk2learn 13:19, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
Basilan representative Wahab Akbar died as well as two others and several are injured, including two other congressmen. -- seav 17:10, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
Although I am not actually a Pinoy, I noticed that many of the pages for Pinoy TV shows are in a need for a major maglinis. We need references, more sensible writing, removing the stuff that we don't need, adding stuff that we "do" need, and related stuff. For this reason, I'm joining the force, and I'll see if I can get the League of Extraordinary Copyeditors on this case as well.
p.s. I think Wowowee would be a perfect show for a North American broadcaster to have from what I've read. Just amp up the prizes a bit (maybe make the final half have a million dollar grand prize) and it could be perfect for Fox maybe? ViperSnake151 16:02, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
Just so you can see what I've done so far on my "project", here's the result of my *ahem* adjustments so far:
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Wowowee&diff=171048402&oldid=169305996
So, like what I did? ViperSnake151 22:18, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
And cause I have tweaked it so much (still don't know if the offer to switch boxes on Merrygalo is actually offered only on the last one or on the 2nd and 3rd, or just the 2nd), but because it's been such a good transformation for the article ever since I came along, I have nominated it to be reviewed to be possibly considered for Good Article status. ViperSnake151 22:59, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
I am determined of putting a Philippine TV show as a Featured article like Buffy the Vampire Slayer. I am currently editing Philippine Idol and I would like to request for a peer review. Thanks! Starczamora 11:22, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
Does anyone have any information about the origin of the American children's song Beans, Beans, the Musical Fruit? It's melody is the same as the Filipino folk song "Sitsiritsit alibangbang". I am doubtful that the Beans version is the original. Any information you can find might be useful to flesh out the article. Thanks. -- Polaron | Talk 23:54, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
Sheesh. For a while there I thought someone had come up with a Batibot parody. Hahaha. Alternativity ( talk) 14:56, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
I think you should divert some of the energy off your lively debate on languages on these articles.-- Lenticel ( talk) 03:01, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
Tag-switching and Intra-word switching are features of Filipino.-- Filipinayzd hehe ( talk) 05:49, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
I created this WikiProject back in 2003 and I think that it would function better as a Geography department alongside the Assessment and Collaboration departments. The drive to improve the geography-related Philippine articles is part of the "WikiProject Philippines" scope and all the proposed department needs to do is to promulgate Manual of Style guidelines. All of the other normal functions expected of a WikiProject (assessment, collaboration, outreach, etc.) can be taken up by the Tambayan itself. What do you guys think? -- seav ( talk) 05:22, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
Please check out Philippine peso and User talk:Dove1950#Philippine peso. See also Wikipedia:WikiProject Numismatics/Style where it says "Use the local name for the denomination even if there is an English translation (e.g., Czech koruna, not Czech crown)." I am getting tired of this debate. -- seav ( talk) 22:54, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
I don't know if this template is necessary. -- Scorpion prinz ( Talk | contribs) 12:09, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
Does anyone know of any wysiwyg browser plugin (for firefox perhaps) editor or software I can use to edit pages and create tables and stuff? This page is driving me nuts. I'm not really into hard coded editing and my knowledge of html is only a little above basic. -- Weekeejames ( talk) 16:13, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
that is all. got any more messy articles that have enough "actual info" but is malformed beyond belief? ViperSnake151 16:02, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
Oh yeah, I finally noticed my new barnstar! Thanks ViperSnake151 22:53, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
Hey everyone... I propose we do a certain "Trip" in different schools in the Met to inform them more about wikipedia to help them become more conscientious users of this tool. Many students think that this encyclopedia is written by nerds and other people with excruciatingly long appendages to their name... By the way, i am back... i have afew pics to upload, hopefully research about my place in mindoro... but school hinders me... to each according to his ability... I suggest SM Manila... if that is convenient... Justox dizaola ( talk) 11:16, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
Are we already drafting the constitution? I express interest in joining, under the chaperoneship of my mom... She's kinda suspicious... She doesn't know about wikipedia... It would be good to inform her that this is not a fraternity (negative connotation) like thing Justox dizaola ( talk) 03:03, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
After gaining 5 votes, 1986 EDSA Revolution became the community's selected article for collaboration. The goal is to make this article featured. Thanks to those who voted (even if abstain): Alternativity, seav, TheCoffee, Magalhães, Lenticel, Bloodpack, eternal dragon, BritandBeyonce, Kurt Guirnela, Howard the Duck, Nino Gonzales, Jojit fb, and Sky Harbor. Please help in the collaboration. Lenticel, the selected article's nominator, is now this article's collaboration coordinator. -- seav 07:11, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
Ok, I'll try to coordinate any raw referenced info that you could contribute since I can't go to the library and provide info myself. I might not be able to improve the article quickly since I have an upcoming entrance exam on the third week of Nov.-- Lenticel ( talk) 08:25, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
Please direct any other comments/discussion to either Wikipedia talk:Tambayan Philippines/Collaboration or Talk:1986 EDSA Revolution as appropriate. -- seav 08:57, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
Let's get cracking at making this FA! Proceed to the talk page to see a list of issues and things to do. -- seav 10:58, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
Ok I'm back, let's start improving this article.-- Lenticel ( talk) 08:22, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
I just noticed that the following languages have open requests:
Please take the time to express your support or opposition for these proposals. Likewise, I think we need to refile approved requests that were never made, like the Cebuano, Ilocano and Pangasinan Wiktionaries. -- Sky Harbor 00:33, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
Let us welcome the arrival of the Bikol Wikipedia. Note to ponder, though: users should NOT manually move the Incubator contents to the Bikol Wikipedia as this would cause the loss of the page history. Wait for the pages to be imported from Incubator first. -- Sky Harbor 00:19, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
Some of the Anons who use improper tone on their edits to Wowowee and reverting some of my changes are back. ViperSnake151 23:31, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
So, have we decided how to name this, yet? Does anyone mind if I start one yet? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alternativity ( talk • contribs) 07:24, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
Why do we always start events articles with a year? †Bloodpack† 07:36, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
Guys, you were preempted by Manila Peninsula Mutiny by User:Vivafilipinas. -- seav ( talk) 08:02, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
Hehe. I knew I was going too slow. Hehehe. Sad. Naexcite pa naman ako maunang gumawa. hehehe. Alternativity ( talk) 08:14, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
how about "adventurism?" †Bloodpack† 11:31, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
The PCIJ (through their blog) has released a timeline. -- seav 20:31, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 10 | Archive 11 | Archive 12 | Archive 13 | Archive 14 | Archive 15 | → | Archive 20 |
To Sky Harbor, seav, Lenticel, titopao and Nino Gonzales. Just in case you don't regularly check you emails, I emailed you guys regarding some tips on how to register Wikimedia Philippines without needing P 1M. To the other participants, I wasn't able to email you guys because your email addresses are not readily available to me. If you are interested in these tips, please feel free to email by using the "Email this user" feature so that I can forward it to you. Thanks. -- Jojit fb 11:18, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
Moved to appropriate forum: Wikipedia talk:Meetup/Manila 3 -- Jojit fb 04:42, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
I'm questioning whether we really need the link (www.t-macs.com/kiso/local/) that's on practically every city and municipality article. First of all, the site is Japanese. And second, the 2000 census reference (as a footnote in the leading paragraph, or demographics section if the article is more than a stub) should ideally be under the references section and should link to the official NSO census report like this one for Zambales.
I guess we need a mini- task force for this? (Well, aren't we a WikiProject, too?) So I guess we need a Tambayan subpage to keep track of which provinces have been fixed already for this task. -- seav 19:25, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
Speaking of census data. Has anyone here downloaded all the 2000 census data text files from NSO? The NSO has just conducted the 2007 census and we don't know if they would replace the 2000 data or retain it for archival purposes. While we of course would need to update the population figures when the results come out, the 2000 data is still useful in the demographics section of articles (e.g. to show growth). -- seav 02:53, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
Do we really need to include the daily ratings of TV programs in their articles? I noticed that the MariMar and Kokey articles have daily rating in their respective articles and I think that they should be removed per WP:NOT. - Danngarcia 16:40, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
This is just tahong. Yup, the green mussel found in the marketplace that kills during red tide season. I think it needs a picture (I have no digicam) before it gets DYK'ed (I can't nom my own creation right?). Thanks in advance. -- Lenticel ( talk) 01:09, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
mined the commons but all I got was a black and white picture which is not a good image for the mussel-- Lenticel ( talk) 09:59, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
UPDATE: already a DYK nom-- Lenticel ( talk) 23:00, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
Added B&W image but will still wait for a colored one -- Lenticel ( talk) 04:31, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
Read this NYT article. Written by an Atenean. POV? Hehehe. :-) -- seav 17:57, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
I know this is not the venue for this but i was just struck. Some prominent universities here in Philippines don't believe the reliability, credibility and veracity of Wikipedia as a source for it has many contributors and the likelihood that it is not reliable anymore. BritandBeyonce ( talk• contribs) 12:21, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
Whoa. Let's clarify first. Reliable and credible for what? As a former UP professor specializing in social science research, I rarely if ever allowed a Wikipedia entry to be used as a reference in a manuscript or paper. But that's not saying I think Wikipedia is not a reliable and credible source of information. (I would think since I'm a Wikipedian, it should be taken for granted that I believe Wikipedia is credible!) That's because I have come to insist that researchers ALWAYS look for primary or secondary literature in whatever field they're covering. Which is to say I did not allow students to cite Wikipedia, which is tertiary literature. But at the same time, I also refused to accept citations from other encyclopedias - which are also tertiary literature. The same goes for dictionaries, almanacs, and other Gen. Ref. materiel. I used to tell my students that they can use encyclopedias, dictionaries, almanacs, etc, as starting points for research, but not as citations. What they're supposed to do is look for the sources cited by the article, and examine those sources, making sure that they are using those sources in the correct context. (There are rare exceptions, of course, but by the time I allow the student to use an encyclopedia, they're usually begging me to allow them to because they can't find or afford the sources cited by the article concerned.) I understand your concern, though. Before I really looked into how Wikipedia did things, I was quizzical myself. But eventually people who are exposed to Wikipedia will be convinced of what a good thing it is. It just takes time. :-) Alternativity 15:41, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
Heck, I agree. Citing Wikipedia as a source in a college paper is just sloppy. TheCoffee 22:06, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
Not a sad thing but actually a good thing. I don't want students getting too lazy to go to the library-- Lenticel ( talk) 00:19, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
I'd say, the hell with it. Let's just all enjoy this wiki wiki world while it lasts ;] †Bloodpack† 05:52, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
The "Philippines" article is really in need of a complete overhaul. Even the Introduction part of the article is sloppy enough. I'm sure you guys are aware of the recent vandalisms (as well as some innocent misinformed newbies) about the Philippines article. I suggest that you closely monitor it and place it under "Editing for Members" only. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.175.228.108 ( talk • contribs)
Greetings. I know little about the Philippines. I came to the article Baguio City (linked from World Chess Championship#Karpov and Kasparov (1975-1993)) and read the opening sentence:
I had absolutely no idea what "1st class highly urbanized" meant, and I hit "Edit" in order to delete these words as I assumed they were just nonsense. I discovered that the wikilink under "city" went to Cities of the Philippines and that 1st class highly urbanized means something very specific. So I've changed the wikilink to:
which gives the non-Filipino reader a clue that this is actually something that is meaningful. I suggest that a similar change should be made to any similar wording in other Philippines city articles: Zamboanga City is one; I'm sure there are many others. jnestorius( talk) 00:38, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
The Commission on Audit has recently published in major dailies, the income of all cities and municipalities in the Philippines, there were at least a number which weren't able to submit their financial reports as of July 15, 2007, which was the cut-off date, they may provide additional item in our infoboxes. -- Scorpion prinz ( Talk | contribs) 14:21, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
I can't believe we still don't have an article on this. This is almost as important as the Hello Garci scandal because this also affects the Philippines' foreign relations with PRC. The Manila Times also has a feature today on Benjamin Abalos which we can use to beef up his biography. -- seav 01:49, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
I think its just The Philippine National Broadband Network controversy, and without a year †Bloodpack† 03:29, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
i think for now its "controversy" because the issue is still under investigation/ongoing, but as soon as we have a verdict, then we can call it a "scandal(?)" †Bloodpack† 05:59, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
[1]. The affidavits, the contract and other stuff. Good for references. Check them out.-- Lenticel ( talk) 09:48, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
These pages were moved to their respective callsigns without discussing it first to their respective talk pages and most FM stations here in the Philippines are more known by their brand names and not their callsigns. Thanks! - Danngarcia 13:24, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
Despite the presence of various Wiki Projects, Philippine related articles really needs attention:
and so much more. Why don't we post targets in the page for Filipino Wikipedians know what to do? BritandBeyonce ( talk• contribs) 10:36, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
I've kinda gotten lost. What happened again to our rotating "wiki sub-project of the month" idea fom Manila 2? Sorry guys I had a lot of real-life concerns to take care of after Manila 2 and havent quite recovered yet. Alternativity 15:23, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
So what's our action regarding the WikiProject? -- seav 15:06, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
Maybe we could start with the rotating sub-project thingy (I think I already left when this was discussed, my family was too impatient). Let's do just one to test the waters or a mini- Wikipedia:Article Collaboration and Improvement Drive for one specific Phil. article.
Hey, did you formulate a plan to get females involved in the Wikiproject? I can't seem to do it on my own-- Lenticel ( talk) 23:37, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
Additionally, what about the name? Regarding the Emir214 affair, it was argued that the Tambayan is a WikiProject in all but name only (though an inactive one at that). Do we still stick with "Tambayan" or do we formally adopt the "WikiProject" title. Consider also that the Tambayan effectively functions as a regional noticeboard right now. I personally don't think we need separate main pages for a WikiProject Philippines and a Philippine Regional Notice-board. -- seav 05:26, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
Philippine-related articles |
Importance | ||||||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Top | High | Mid | Low | None | Total | ||
Quality | |||||||
FA | 5 | 3 | 1 | 9 | |||
A | 1 | 1 | |||||
GA | 6 | 2 | 7 | 6 | 21 | ||
B | 80 | 22 | 25 | 26 | 3 | 156 | |
Start | 107 | 95 | 155 | 136 | 11 | 504 | |
Stub | 29 | 37 | 92 | 173 | 39 | 370 | |
Assessed | 228 | 159 | 279 | 342 | 53 | 1061 | |
Unassessed | 0 | 1 | 1 | 7 | 1 | 10 | |
Total | 228 | 160 | 280 | 349 | 54 | 1071 |
Yay! We finally broke the 1,000 tagged articles count, but there are still tons of untagged Philippine-related articles. Do you share! -- seav 14:47, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
User:TTN is starting to annoy me. Obviously, this person has some issues based on the messages hes been receiving in his talkpage from other fellow editors. Now, I placed a warning (template) on his talkpage regarding an image that he uploaded, but instead of adhering to the message, he just deleted it. I know its his talkpage, but disregarding a policy is another thing. Is there any warning (templates) to warn him of his actions? †Bloodpack† 23:01, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
Perhaps we could present what we, the Philippine community, are doing. Maybe some VC would be interested in helping out in setting up the local community. I'm sure some of them are interested in a non-profit.-- Nino Gonzales 05:21, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
Hi. I just tagged a number of Language and Tribe related articles and would like to ask a question for consistency's sake.
What I'd been doing all night long was to
and then
I'm not sure of my categorizations as I was just breezing through the articles. Finding Chabacano labelled Top made me think twice about some of my categorizations. I just realized I'd probably underestimated the number of Chabacano speakers.
Could someone maybe go through my evaluations and perhaps correct me? Or is there a list that sorts these languages according to number of speakers? I'd hate to be told I'm undermining the value of our indigenous languages - they are very important to me. So I'd appreciate categorization help, please? Thanks.
On the other hand, next week, I'll have more time to sort languages more carefully according to number of speakers. Hehe. I'm really asking because I suddenly realized I might have commited a number of embarrasing faux pases. Alternativity 17:37, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
Eep. 607,000 Chabacano speakers. And 1.1 Million Kinaray-a speakers. I can actually FEEL the tomatoes pelting me. (Moving Kinaray-a to Top now.) Or should I just avoid this altogether and sort all the languages as top priority? Alternativity 17:55, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
It would be better if you left them unassessed for now and wait for a language expert to do the job. I think you could request User:Christopher Sundita to do this.-- Lenticel ( talk) 20:32, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
Personally, I'd label them all as top no matter the number of speakers. -- Chris S. 04:18, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
I saw the Golden Tara at a UCLA art exhibition in 1981; I even have a picture of it in the exhibition catalog: p.74 of The People and Art of the Philippines, by Father Gabriel Casal & Regalado Trota Jose, Jr., Eric S. Casino, George R. Ellis, Wilhelm G. Solheim II. The catalog is copyrighted by the Regents of the University of California. Now that I know its copyright status, the next time I get to the Field Museum (The link below claims the Golden Tara is in a Gold Room; the museum has exhibits for jewels, Indians, Dinosaurs, Birds, etc) I will look more carefully for it, and attempt to snap a color picture of the statue for the encyclopedia. The statue is about the height of a computer screen, 1.8 kg of pure gold. It was once in the possession of a coconut export company and was purchased by the Field Museum. In all my visits to the museum, I have never seen the statue there, although I have looked for it. A history of the statue can be found here. -- Ancheta Wis 18:45, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
According to Dr. Bennet Bronson of the Field Museum, what I saw at UCLA is referred to as the Agusan Image and that it was scheduled to be part of an exhibit in the Philippines until some complications occurred there. According to Dr Bronson, the Museum still hopes to exhibit it in the Philippines. I now believe the Golden Tara of Butuan is not the same as the Agusan Image. The Agusan Image has been the subject of extensive writing, so I hope to follow up on this. -- Ancheta Wis 11:01, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
This has very little to do with the Philippines, and even less with Philippine-related Wikipedia content, but I found the recent extremely lengthy discussion about the move from Myanmar to Burma at Talk:Burma, very enlightening. I personally would've preferred the status quo (Myanmar) but the discussion reveals quite a lot about the behind-the-scenese working of Wikipedia, including the notion of systemic bias. -- seav 06:16, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
Hehe. I found this article while assessing stuff. Can you help expand or at least give a picture?-- Lenticel ( talk) 11:05, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
so mongrel or pariah dog doesnt fall under aspin dog? they are a different thing? sorry makulit ako hehehe †Bloodpack† 23:52, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
I don't understand, in the ORIGIN section, it states In 1924 Philippine Philippine mastiffs to be registered as purebreds. If this species has been registered in the Philippines, does it mean it has been adopted as a Philippine breed? Meaning, it's ours? †Bloodpack† 14:22, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
Is a TV station's callsign the standard naming convention for the Philippine TV station's article? I have observed that the standard Television station naming convention (see Wikipedia:WikiProject Television Stations) is applied to the U.S. stations (and maybe adopted by other North and Central American TV station articles). - Frj1947 21:04, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
I just came across this AfD for a Bulacan barangay and I think we need to decide in a sort of final manner the Tambayan's consensus stand on barangay articles.
Here are some references:
My personal conviction is that no articles on individual barangays should exist at all. If ever there will be articles on barangays then they should be consolidated articles like List of Pokémon (21-40), which used to be separate individual Pokemon articles. But I will admit that I grew up in Metro Manila and I have no home province (unless you consider Rizal and Bulacan, pre-Metro Manila), so my concept of barangays are kinda limited. There are actually barangays in the provinces that are larger than municipalities both in area and population, so I may revise my position that the existence of barangay articles may be decided on a case-to-case basis, just like the way Pikachu has his own article.
-- seav 20:09, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
Ok, let's test our discussion in the field I just started an Afd for a Baranggay. see the project page . -- Lenticel ( talk) 11:19, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
Welcome to the Tambayan Philippines Collaboration Department! This is part of the proposed dual nature of the Tambayan Philippines: first and foremost, it is a regional noticeboard for Philippine-related articles, and it is now a WikiProject for the Philippine-related articles. The nomination phase for Collaboration #1 is ongoing. Please nominate other articles!
Anyway, we do plan on doing some sort of collaboration-type activites, right? Well, I started the department page to get the ball rolling and hopefully we can avoid the ningas cogon mentality this time around. Anyway, can some enterprising soul modify the Tambayan main page to add the two departments (Assessment and Collaboration) to gain visibility? :D -- seav 07:12, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
Comments and suggestions? Please place it in the department talk page. -- seav 09:06, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
Voting for collaboration #1 is now ongoing, please add your votes, even if it is abstain. Thanks! -- seav 11:04, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
Please update the announcement. Thanks -- Filipinayzd —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.1.25.82 ( talk) 21:12, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
Here are the partial list of users. We could invite some of them in our meetings. -- Exec8 01:17, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
Hi all, a few of us are working up vampire for a crack at FAC sometime soon. There is a mention of a philipino vampire-like creature called a manananggal. Was wondering whether anyone had a folklore book which could be cited as a reference with it in. cheers, Casliber ( talk · contribs) 11:01, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
Ok, will add books in the article soon.-- Lenticel ( talk) 11:24, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
I added what I could from my collection. I haven't integrated the references into the body yet, though, so i placed them under "see also". I'm sure Lenticel has a few more. :-D Alternativity 14:55, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
I should also point out that if it's a vampire equivalent you're looking for, the Aswang also fits the bill - perhaps even more so because there are some sources that identify the Manananggal only as a subcategory of Aswang, made distinct only by their ability to split their body. Both creatures are known for eating people's innards. Let me point out here, since I cant add it to the main article, that I suspect the counterindications for Aswang and Mananangal (and a bunch of other Filipino mythical creatures) have been significantly influenced by Spanish religious practice. (Which is why I think many of the counterindications match those for European creatures... but that's just me for now I haven't found a sound reference for the evolution of these myths) Casliber, I'm afraid I cant be much help right now with the references as I have a rather bad flu and I can only spend so much time sitting down. hehe. -- Alternativity 03:53, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
I commented here because the Wikiproject for Philippine LGUs is inactive. Really, i dont like how the list municipalities for particular provinces are edited. BritandBeyonce ( talk• contribs) 01:46, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
A milestone has been set in the Tagalog Wikipedia, it has now more than 10,000 articles but most of them are stubs about artistas and various geographic places. The credit goes to Wikiboost (suspected to be a bot) for the sudden increase of articles. Personally, I prefer quality over quantity. So far, there are only 13 featured articles, which were identified by the community. I had also been promoting balance of articles in the wiki by completing this list - tl:Wikipedia:Listahan ng mga artikulo na kailangan ng lahat ng wika, the equivalent of Wikipedia:Vital articles. By the way the 10,000th article is Bantayan, Cebu by Mananaliksik -- Jojit ( talk) 00:32, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
You guys think it deserves an article? Here's a Y! source so far. [2] Shrumster 08:01, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
The Ayala Center coverage is actually pretty much a copyvio of the Inquirer.net article and needs to be cleaned up. :( -- seav 10:07, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
Since Shrumster is working on Glorietta, I'll fix the Ayala one instead.-- Lenticel ( talk) 11:50, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
This was recently added to the site:
"Risci, up to now, is still not Department of Science and Technology (DOST) accredited and recognized as a science high school."
and it has no citation.
I see that this is something the school admin would have problems with, as its likely an embarrassing situation to them.
Still, I'm not sure what the correct action is here. Is this information irrelevant? I'm not sure. Is this information non-factual? I'm not sure either. Is it NPOV... I don't think so, but I think its on the border. But, no, it has no citation. That at least is obvious.
I've looked at the history of the site and, yes, this is one of those lines that keep getting added and getting removed and added and getting removed. I haven't been a wikipedian that long and I'm wondering what everybody thinks. Alternativity 23:56, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
Does anyone know what agency of the DOST accredits science high schools? And we should have an article for science high schools so others may know what's the big deal about these. -- Howard the Duck 15:54, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
Everybody who is creating Philippine-related articles seems to be assuming that there is a page on every building or mall in there. It's a pain looking at all those red links and reading so much irrelevant information about malls and stuff, and in the end, many of them still don't make it past stub class. Take a look at the file histories of Ortigas Center, Ayala Center and others if you don't know what I mean. æt ə rnal ðrAعon 05:06, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
Sorry for being lethargic during the entire Meetup. I just came from a family get-together in Laguna. I have learned the hard way that indefinite rounds of table tennis and billiards and hours of swimming coupled with three hours of sleep greatly increases fatigue and the chance of waking up aching all over and reduces your the effectiveness of your mental faculties for the rest of the day. Anyways I'll try to comment on what I can remember on the meeting. Add anything that I missed. Comments are welcome.
WikiPilipinas is an enemy simply because the public might get confused why there are two wikis for the Philippines. They are a good partner because we can piggyback on their events thus benefiting both parties. We get promoted and WikiPilipinas will have a more distinct identity away from Wikipedia.
Pls do help me with this image. Thanks. -- BritandBeyonce ( talk• contribs) 03:51, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
I came across the following three related images:
TheCoffee's image shows the source, but I don't know where LordAntagonist got his. What do we make of these? -- seav 01:32, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
See how Bohol is being edited. Isn't it bad? Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and not a list of stuffs like that. Yah, it factual but it needs a thorough overhaul. PS, consider the images associated. -- BritandBeyonce ( talk• contribs) 11:58, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
I think there are two important matters we need to address:
Anyway, for the first one, if you know any Bikol contacts (preferably university professors or linguists), do refer them to me and I'll refer them to the languages subcommittee.
Well, what do you know. Tarlac City has been a highly-urbanized city since October 27, 2005, according to President Proclamation No. 940. Our related articles are outdated. I was alerted to this fact by an edit summary to Tarlac. I wonder how many other cities are actually highly-urbanized now. Anyway, I'm modifying the various articles now: Cities of the Philippines, Tarlac, Tarlac City, {{ Philippine_cities}}. Any others I'm forgetting? -- seav 08:43, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
Pardon news article-- Lenticel ( talk) 10:08, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
Quezon will be split into two after Republic Act 9495 lapsed into law last September 7. When will the plebiscite be conducted? -- Exec8 22:49, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
ABS-CBN has done it again. They have posted a black-and-white picture of seav's map of Rodriguez, Rizal for the news " Rodriguez dump reopened for Rizal trash only" without proper consent. Something must be done about this. - 203.87.129.111 11:47, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
I got a nice e-mail reply from Joel Sarancho, head of Online News for ABS-CBN. Since I do not have permission to reproduce the whole e-mail reply yet, let me quote the relevant part:
“ | We apologize for the unauthorized use. Please note it is NOT a policy of ABS-CBN,
much less abs-cbnnews.com to disregard ownership of intellectual property. The use of your licensed image is an isolated case of acting in haste. |
” |
Cool! I guess we just need to send polite e-mails to those concerned. Hopefully other media organizations can heed this example as well. -- seav 14:10, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
WTF?! Practically all of the domains related to the 2005 SEA Games are gone. Aaarrghh!!! If I known that the PSC or POC would let the website rot, I would've stored a copy of all the pages, copyright be damned! -- seav 16:50, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
Currently, there's a slow-motion edit war at the Manila article; two anons are reverting each other for the lead picture. Either an admin semi-protects it or we revert the infobox to the one that's used for all LGU articles so that there won't be a lead pic. -- Howard the Duck 13:22, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
I'm thinking about this. Anyone else think it is a good idea? -- Howard the Duck 07:40, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
dont you all think its time that we use a bot to archive this talkpage? †Bloodpack† 03:10, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
i would love to do it, but im having a hard time understanding the method =/ sorry guys †Bloodpack† 23:25, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
Contact the bot's owner. Maybe s/he can help.-- Lenticel ( talk) 07:49, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
BTW, we could also start with the automatic archiving of the Tambayan with User:MiszaBot_III Like Bloodpack, I'm not good with coding. -- Lenticel ( talk) 11:54, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
We have automatic archiving now! Courtesy of the bot's owner. Thank him when you got the chance ok?-- Lenticel ( talk) 09:15, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
There is an edit war going on to the Zaido: Pulis Pangkalawakan, where an editor is persistent in adding a "controversy" section to the article. All of his provided sources are just blogs and discussion boards. Kindly help us so that the article will be neutral enough. Thanks! - Danngarcia 17:12, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
You are invited to join Oplan 15,000 on the Tagalog Wikipedia which aims to have 15,000 articles on or before December 25, 2007. See you there! - Auto007 14:49, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
Whoever creates the first article to break the 24,999 mark will get a PhP 1000 Sodexho gift certificate from me. It doesn't necessary be the 25,000th article.
The criterias are:
Administrators of english and Philippine language wikipedia are not qualified to participate. The winner will be notified by email with a confirmation code. The user will personally claim the prize at the scheduled PhilWiki meetup. -- Exec8 04:32, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
“ | Users edit what they want to edit; not what they are told to edit so they can get someone else to edit other stuff for them in return...-- h i s s p a c e r e s e a r c h 03:30, 21 February 2007 (UTC) | ” |
I've been aware of this regional project for quite a while now. What do you guys think of it? I don't quite see how they manage (if they even do), the very large overlap between that WikiProject and the various country subprojects. (For instance, Narra, Palawan, is tagged by their assessment department, which I find pretty weird.) We're being quite insular with our activities here in the Tambayan and I think we can better coordinate with the larger project on regional topics. Examples of wide-ranging articles that would benefit from regional cooperation are ASEAN, the various SEA Games articles, Spratly Islands, Kulintang, Wallace Line, and Durian. I guess we also need an ambassador of sorts, or at least one who keeps up with any important developments on that project. -- seav 02:05, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
I got to this inactive Wikiproject due to assessing Alena. I think the scope of the project, is mostly cruft aside from the main articles. If these articles are nominated in Afd, they will definitely get deleted. As an Afd watcher I have seen characters of even more notable shows get deleted. Nakakahiya naman kung iba pang tao ang mag-nominate. Anyways a massive merge/redirect/delete action is due. I don't watch GMA shows aside from documentaries and news programs so I won't be of help.-- Lenticel ( talk) 09:42, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
When I was starting to do my Mythology research project, I was shocked to find that searches for Mythological figures led me to more Encantadia articles than it led me to actual Philippine Mythology facts. (Often the Encantadia articles had more detail.) I never did watch the show, so I can't help much either. But I was always hopeful that this was our country's first step towards having a show like Star Trek, with all its inherent cultural significance nullifying the fact that its articles are pretty much all crufty, too. (That's 800 plus hours of viewing, most of which is covered by individual Wikis!) Whether it has actually achieved a similar status is, of course, highly doubtful, but part of me is screaming that the series is probably more important than we now think, with history revealing its full significance. A part of me is screaming that I don't want to see those entries deleted, but, as Spock would say, there is no way to quantify "part of oneself screaming." (Hehe. Did I just earn myself a Trekkie label? Hahahaha.) Alternativity 18:24, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
Hi guys, I have a little question. An article about Jonas Diego was created by User_talk:Jonasdiego himself. Most of the edits came from him himself. I know it violates WP:COI and WP:BIO since he made an article about himself even others (even I) made some few editions. Although the article may be notable, the fact that its created and mostly edited by himself makes the article questionable with regard to WP:COI. I just want to know if this article is qualified for AfD? †Bloodpack† 14:06, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
Interesting tools. Check them out:
And the winner for most talkative in WT:TAMBAY is... Howard the Duck! ( [5])-- Nino Gonzales 08:26, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
Should we give him a barnstar or something? :)-- Lenticel ( talk) 08:52, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
Just a few announcements:
Let's do some good! -- Sky Harbor 17:20, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
Former Senator Rene Saguisag was in a “critical” stage but was responding well to simple instructions, the report said. Article -- Exec8 23:05, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
Heck, if there's an article on London congestion charge, I think we should have an article for the traffic program we all love to hate. :-) -- seav 15:56, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
I invite all of you to participate in this discussion concerning the proposed renaming of the Tagalog Wikipedia from "Wikipedia" to "Wikipedya" just like the french, volapuk and other European wikis did in order to agree with their own local pronounciations and spellings. Here is the discussion: tl:WP:Wikipedya. -- Felipe Aira 11:51, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
Hi. The Kibungan, Benguet article may require some looking into in light of recent changes in the town's "branding," as reported in the Inquirer recently [6]. However, I honestly don't have the energy to do this myself. Hehe. Any volunteers? Alternativity 18:02, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
Done!-- Lenticel ( talk) 22:19, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
I propose Manila 4 to be in December. This fourth informal meet will have a get together or EB theme, some sort of a party-like theme. Since the past three meetings became more of a talking shop atmosphere. Before our 4th meeting, we have to iron out some things online.
Finally, I propose the creation of the fully organized Wikipedia Philippines foundation by April 2008. -- Exec8 05:34, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
I finally got to read it. Here's my take. I suggest we agree on a mission-vision statement first. The by-laws should flow from this mission-vision statement. Sorry to be the annoying devil's advocate again, but based on the way I see our situation, my understanding of our mission-vision and my gut feel on our progress in the next few years, the by-laws seem to be overkill. I highly doubt we can implement the bureaucracy proposed by the by-laws... do we even have the people to do accounting (treasurer), make meeting minutes (secretary), creating resolutions and approving them (the board)... and a more fundamental question is do we need this bureaucracy to reach our goals? Perhaps this is just a formality for the SEC approval. If that is so, you get my vote for the version of the document as of my signing of this comment (but if it could be simplified, that would be more preferable). I also think that we should make most decisions in the wiki and just use meetings for activities which really need it. -- Nino Gonzales 03:16, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
I made a script to collect a whole bunch of potentially unassessed Philippine-related articles. I did this by checking out which articles categorized under categories within 10 levels of Category:Philippines (ignoring the obviously non-Philippine-related categories like Category:World War II) are still unassessed. I got a total of about 6,800 still unassessed articles. Interestingly, I found out that there are about 9,100 possibly Philippine-related articles currently existing. (My estimate was about 5,000. Hehehe.) The worklist is transcluded below. Hopefully we can finish this worklist by November end. Enjoy tagging and assessing! -- seav 06:12, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
This is an index to all the currently potentially Philippine-related articles that are unassessed. The whole article list is broken down into batches of 100 articles.
If you're going to work on assessing a batch of articles, indicate that you're currently working on that batch by signing your name beside the link. If you're done with that batch, strike it out by surrounding the link with <s>...</s>. Please note that not all articles listed here are under the scope of the Tambayan Philippines. Please see the Scope section of the Assessment department page for details.
This is an index (batch 2) to all the currently potentially Philippine-related articles that are unassessed. The whole article list is broken down into batches of 100 articles.
If you're going to work on assessing a batch of articles, indicate that you're currently working on that batch by signing your name beside the link. If you're done with that batch, strike it out by surrounding the link with <s>...</s>. Please note that not all articles listed here are under the scope of the Tambayan Philippines. Please see the Scope section of the Assessment department page for details.
I don't think Zebra Dove be tagged/assessed because the bird almost belong to six countries. -- βritand&βeyonce ( talk• contribs) 07:47, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Here's a graph of the history of the Assessment tagging as on November 9. There is currently a backlog of about 6,500 possibly Philippine-related articles. I know it's kinda tedious, but please do your share. There's an excellent user script that you can use to make tagging much, much easier; please see the first section in the assessment talk page Thanks! -- seav 05:50, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
This graph is officially located on the assessment department page.
Additionally, I think that they are the rock music icon in the Philippines. So I guess, the article should be of High-importance? -- seav 05:19, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
The word tambayan does not mean a place for hanging out, instead it should mean a place for idling. Tambay means to idle. J2 - a messy profile ilyk2learn 13:19, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
Basilan representative Wahab Akbar died as well as two others and several are injured, including two other congressmen. -- seav 17:10, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
Although I am not actually a Pinoy, I noticed that many of the pages for Pinoy TV shows are in a need for a major maglinis. We need references, more sensible writing, removing the stuff that we don't need, adding stuff that we "do" need, and related stuff. For this reason, I'm joining the force, and I'll see if I can get the League of Extraordinary Copyeditors on this case as well.
p.s. I think Wowowee would be a perfect show for a North American broadcaster to have from what I've read. Just amp up the prizes a bit (maybe make the final half have a million dollar grand prize) and it could be perfect for Fox maybe? ViperSnake151 16:02, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
Just so you can see what I've done so far on my "project", here's the result of my *ahem* adjustments so far:
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Wowowee&diff=171048402&oldid=169305996
So, like what I did? ViperSnake151 22:18, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
And cause I have tweaked it so much (still don't know if the offer to switch boxes on Merrygalo is actually offered only on the last one or on the 2nd and 3rd, or just the 2nd), but because it's been such a good transformation for the article ever since I came along, I have nominated it to be reviewed to be possibly considered for Good Article status. ViperSnake151 22:59, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
I am determined of putting a Philippine TV show as a Featured article like Buffy the Vampire Slayer. I am currently editing Philippine Idol and I would like to request for a peer review. Thanks! Starczamora 11:22, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
Does anyone have any information about the origin of the American children's song Beans, Beans, the Musical Fruit? It's melody is the same as the Filipino folk song "Sitsiritsit alibangbang". I am doubtful that the Beans version is the original. Any information you can find might be useful to flesh out the article. Thanks. -- Polaron | Talk 23:54, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
Sheesh. For a while there I thought someone had come up with a Batibot parody. Hahaha. Alternativity ( talk) 14:56, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
I think you should divert some of the energy off your lively debate on languages on these articles.-- Lenticel ( talk) 03:01, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
Tag-switching and Intra-word switching are features of Filipino.-- Filipinayzd hehe ( talk) 05:49, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
I created this WikiProject back in 2003 and I think that it would function better as a Geography department alongside the Assessment and Collaboration departments. The drive to improve the geography-related Philippine articles is part of the "WikiProject Philippines" scope and all the proposed department needs to do is to promulgate Manual of Style guidelines. All of the other normal functions expected of a WikiProject (assessment, collaboration, outreach, etc.) can be taken up by the Tambayan itself. What do you guys think? -- seav ( talk) 05:22, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
Please check out Philippine peso and User talk:Dove1950#Philippine peso. See also Wikipedia:WikiProject Numismatics/Style where it says "Use the local name for the denomination even if there is an English translation (e.g., Czech koruna, not Czech crown)." I am getting tired of this debate. -- seav ( talk) 22:54, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
I don't know if this template is necessary. -- Scorpion prinz ( Talk | contribs) 12:09, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
Does anyone know of any wysiwyg browser plugin (for firefox perhaps) editor or software I can use to edit pages and create tables and stuff? This page is driving me nuts. I'm not really into hard coded editing and my knowledge of html is only a little above basic. -- Weekeejames ( talk) 16:13, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
that is all. got any more messy articles that have enough "actual info" but is malformed beyond belief? ViperSnake151 16:02, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
Oh yeah, I finally noticed my new barnstar! Thanks ViperSnake151 22:53, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
Hey everyone... I propose we do a certain "Trip" in different schools in the Met to inform them more about wikipedia to help them become more conscientious users of this tool. Many students think that this encyclopedia is written by nerds and other people with excruciatingly long appendages to their name... By the way, i am back... i have afew pics to upload, hopefully research about my place in mindoro... but school hinders me... to each according to his ability... I suggest SM Manila... if that is convenient... Justox dizaola ( talk) 11:16, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
Are we already drafting the constitution? I express interest in joining, under the chaperoneship of my mom... She's kinda suspicious... She doesn't know about wikipedia... It would be good to inform her that this is not a fraternity (negative connotation) like thing Justox dizaola ( talk) 03:03, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
After gaining 5 votes, 1986 EDSA Revolution became the community's selected article for collaboration. The goal is to make this article featured. Thanks to those who voted (even if abstain): Alternativity, seav, TheCoffee, Magalhães, Lenticel, Bloodpack, eternal dragon, BritandBeyonce, Kurt Guirnela, Howard the Duck, Nino Gonzales, Jojit fb, and Sky Harbor. Please help in the collaboration. Lenticel, the selected article's nominator, is now this article's collaboration coordinator. -- seav 07:11, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
Ok, I'll try to coordinate any raw referenced info that you could contribute since I can't go to the library and provide info myself. I might not be able to improve the article quickly since I have an upcoming entrance exam on the third week of Nov.-- Lenticel ( talk) 08:25, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
Please direct any other comments/discussion to either Wikipedia talk:Tambayan Philippines/Collaboration or Talk:1986 EDSA Revolution as appropriate. -- seav 08:57, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
Let's get cracking at making this FA! Proceed to the talk page to see a list of issues and things to do. -- seav 10:58, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
Ok I'm back, let's start improving this article.-- Lenticel ( talk) 08:22, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
I just noticed that the following languages have open requests:
Please take the time to express your support or opposition for these proposals. Likewise, I think we need to refile approved requests that were never made, like the Cebuano, Ilocano and Pangasinan Wiktionaries. -- Sky Harbor 00:33, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
Let us welcome the arrival of the Bikol Wikipedia. Note to ponder, though: users should NOT manually move the Incubator contents to the Bikol Wikipedia as this would cause the loss of the page history. Wait for the pages to be imported from Incubator first. -- Sky Harbor 00:19, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
Some of the Anons who use improper tone on their edits to Wowowee and reverting some of my changes are back. ViperSnake151 23:31, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
So, have we decided how to name this, yet? Does anyone mind if I start one yet? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alternativity ( talk • contribs) 07:24, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
Why do we always start events articles with a year? †Bloodpack† 07:36, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
Guys, you were preempted by Manila Peninsula Mutiny by User:Vivafilipinas. -- seav ( talk) 08:02, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
Hehe. I knew I was going too slow. Hehehe. Sad. Naexcite pa naman ako maunang gumawa. hehehe. Alternativity ( talk) 08:14, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
how about "adventurism?" †Bloodpack† 11:31, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
The PCIJ (through their blog) has released a timeline. -- seav 20:31, 30 November 2007 (UTC)