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A slippery slope here. Should we perhaps deprecate the use of parentheses because it's asking too much of editors to press the Shift key? I mean, if every other parenthetical phrase looked like this
See Spot 9the Dalmatian0 run!
instead of this
See Spot (the Dalmation) run!
we'd soon get used to it. Ditto for double quotation marks—make 'em all single. ¡And don't «get me started» on àçŒñ†$ and diacriticals and common symbols of all sorts—too much trouble to bother with. While we're at it, maybe we should look into abandoning capitalization norms; the universal application of lowercase would speed up non-bot edits, and users editing from their phones would be in hog heaven.
If this were April 1, I'd chalk it up to a joke, but I'm detecting a worrisome seriousness about all this.
Anyway, how about this source code?
Rivertorch ( talk) 04:52, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
Kwamikagami, no reader needs to use dashes because redirect pages obviate that need. Editors wishing to communicate clearly do, on occasion, need to use dashes. When they fail to do so in article space, helpful gnomes will arrive, sometimes immediately and sometimes years later, and do it for them. For some reason, the act of correcting a long-term mistake sometimes sparks controversy.
Kww, perhaps the scope of this project page is narrower than its wording implies. (Redirects and templates are outside my usual bailiwick.) A series of sweeping, reckless comments were made at WP:AN to the effect of "Dashes? Who needs 'em!" This attitude seemed to be echoed here, hence my comments above. Rivertorch ( talk) 17:17, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
You know, there have been edit/move wars over "-" and "−" as well (ASCII vs Unicode; sort ordering). Not forgetting the Japanese version "-" 64.229.100.45 ( talk) 08:02, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
Re [1]
I'm surprised to find that hyphen and em/en dash aren't already treated as aliases by the search function. It should be a pretty easy software change. Simplest thing is suggest it at VPT or Help:Search about it. 69.111.194.167 ( talk) 16:28, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
Anyone who comes to this proposal long after the incident that inspired has been forgotten may want to also read this thread. There was far more support for this than the thread above may suggest. -- llywrch ( talk) 20:15, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
The essay was written in good faith in response to Skomorokh's suggestion [2] at the Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Short horizontal line discussion, which three other editors said 'Keep per Skomorokh.' Wikipedia practice is that essays with opposing viewpoints, e.g. WP:DTR and WP:TRR, be crosslinked. Gerardw ( talk)
My English classes gave me the impression –es ( –) were used for number ranges, ex. 3 – 5 or 9:00 – 5:00—as opposed to —es ( —) being used kind of like commas. Normal hyphens (-) are used for some compound words, like " Mexican-American War".
If that is, indeed, how these dashes are used, that may be good to include in the essay.
74.37.13.86 ( talk) 05:47, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
I wish I had written this essay. -- Dweller ( talk) Become old fashioned! 22:33, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
This, and the section that follows it. -- Dweller ( talk) Become old fashioned! 22:34, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
Essays Low‑impact | ||||||||||
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This page was nominated for deletion on 5 May 2011. The result of the discussion was keep. |
A slippery slope here. Should we perhaps deprecate the use of parentheses because it's asking too much of editors to press the Shift key? I mean, if every other parenthetical phrase looked like this
See Spot 9the Dalmatian0 run!
instead of this
See Spot (the Dalmation) run!
we'd soon get used to it. Ditto for double quotation marks—make 'em all single. ¡And don't «get me started» on àçŒñ†$ and diacriticals and common symbols of all sorts—too much trouble to bother with. While we're at it, maybe we should look into abandoning capitalization norms; the universal application of lowercase would speed up non-bot edits, and users editing from their phones would be in hog heaven.
If this were April 1, I'd chalk it up to a joke, but I'm detecting a worrisome seriousness about all this.
Anyway, how about this source code?
Rivertorch ( talk) 04:52, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
Kwamikagami, no reader needs to use dashes because redirect pages obviate that need. Editors wishing to communicate clearly do, on occasion, need to use dashes. When they fail to do so in article space, helpful gnomes will arrive, sometimes immediately and sometimes years later, and do it for them. For some reason, the act of correcting a long-term mistake sometimes sparks controversy.
Kww, perhaps the scope of this project page is narrower than its wording implies. (Redirects and templates are outside my usual bailiwick.) A series of sweeping, reckless comments were made at WP:AN to the effect of "Dashes? Who needs 'em!" This attitude seemed to be echoed here, hence my comments above. Rivertorch ( talk) 17:17, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
You know, there have been edit/move wars over "-" and "−" as well (ASCII vs Unicode; sort ordering). Not forgetting the Japanese version "-" 64.229.100.45 ( talk) 08:02, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
Re [1]
I'm surprised to find that hyphen and em/en dash aren't already treated as aliases by the search function. It should be a pretty easy software change. Simplest thing is suggest it at VPT or Help:Search about it. 69.111.194.167 ( talk) 16:28, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
Anyone who comes to this proposal long after the incident that inspired has been forgotten may want to also read this thread. There was far more support for this than the thread above may suggest. -- llywrch ( talk) 20:15, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
The essay was written in good faith in response to Skomorokh's suggestion [2] at the Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Wikipedia:Short horizontal line discussion, which three other editors said 'Keep per Skomorokh.' Wikipedia practice is that essays with opposing viewpoints, e.g. WP:DTR and WP:TRR, be crosslinked. Gerardw ( talk)
My English classes gave me the impression –es ( –) were used for number ranges, ex. 3 – 5 or 9:00 – 5:00—as opposed to —es ( —) being used kind of like commas. Normal hyphens (-) are used for some compound words, like " Mexican-American War".
If that is, indeed, how these dashes are used, that may be good to include in the essay.
74.37.13.86 ( talk) 05:47, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
I wish I had written this essay. -- Dweller ( talk) Become old fashioned! 22:33, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
This, and the section that follows it. -- Dweller ( talk) Become old fashioned! 22:34, 3 October 2018 (UTC)