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Hello,
I am currently trying to learn and get hands on with fighting vandalism on wiki, only that I do not know how to find vandals easily. I would like to use STiki to make correct choices and fight vandalism appropriately. Can I get the permission to use it? (Sadly I do not possess enough experience to get the rollback permission which I would have preffered.). Thanks, TheOriginalSoni ( talk) 18:49, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
There is an innate problem with rewarding people with attention for their number of edits and revisions. There are people who will defacto vandalize good edits when they think they can get away with it just to move up such boards. The most likely people this will happen to is people who don't bother to log in before tweaking some small item. They likely won't notice such a reversion has taken place until and unless they happen to go back to the page, which might never happen.
I suggest to you that making a "leaderboard" is a very very bad idea.
--
OBloodyHell (
talk) 08:16, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
I have just had a go with the WikiTrust queue for the first time in ages and absolutely every diff I saw was over 200 days old. I think the range was about 205 to 275.
Needless to say all the diffs were innocent. A lot of them were category changes like this and redirects like this.
I did manage to fine two WP:CUTANDPASTE moves, so it didn't feel entirely unproductive.
Andrew, can you investigate why WikiTrust is showing such consistently old diffs? My first guess would be that the WikiTrust server may have been down for the last 205 days and so no new scores have been gathered for that queue since then.
If this is so and if there is no immediate prospect of the WikiTrust server coming back on line, it may be a good idea to remove this queue from the STiki GUI.
Yaris678 ( talk) 20:52, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
Please grant me permission to use STiki. I do a lot of vandal reverting, new page patrolling etc. so this tool would help me out a lot. Cheers! Kevin12xd... | speak up | take a peek | email me 22:39, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
Pending-changes protection started being applied to some articles on the 1st of December and it seems to be rolling out smoothly and slowly.
Therefore, it may be a good time to discuss the relationship between PC and STiki. I think this comes under a number of categories. I have put them below in different sub sections, in case people want to discuss any of them further.
Yaris678 ( talk) 19:32, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
Based on my understanding of the two systems, I don't think there should be any real incompatibility between PC and STiki. In some situations, if you revert an edit on a PC-protected page your edit will await approval by a reviewer before it "goes live". But unless someone has already approved a vandalised version of the page, the vandalised version will never "go live" so no harm will be done.
The one situation when a STiki user's revert will be automatically be approved will be fairly common but it requires a number of things to all be true:
Yaris678 ( talk) 19:32, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
There will be many STiki users who would make good reviewers. If you think you may be in this category, check out WP:Reviewing. That explains more, including how to get the "right". Yaris678 ( talk) 19:32, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
STiki users will come across many pages that are suitable for pending-changes protection. Wikipedia:Protection policy#When to apply pending changes protection says PC-protection can be applied to pages that are not frequently edited but do suffer from persistent vandalism, BLP violations or copyright infringements. So if you come across an article with a lot of vandalism in its history that isn't getting a lot of attention then I suggest requesting protection at WP:RFPP. Yaris678 ( talk) 19:32, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
Hi Andrew, I think it would help if you introduced a function that...well, let me just roleplay it:
Cheers, Kevin12xd... | speak up | take a peek | email me 00:52, 18 December 2012 (UTC) By the way, STiki is working out really well for me and I appreciate your creation of the tool.
In the message that you send to new STiki users, the link to userboxes needs to be changed to WP:STiki#Userboxes, awards, and miscellania. I would change it myself, but I'm not sure where the template is. The Anonymouse ( talk • contribs) Merry Christmas! 05:59, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
Hello, Please give me the permission of using STiki so that i can revert Vandalism I have read essays, pages related to Vandalism I have completely come to know what is Vandalism and What is not Vandalism? I also tried in Rollbacking Permission but i was denied Please enable STiki in my account, Thank You Greatuser ( talk) 10:26, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
Seeing this and this, would it not be prudent if the STiki permissions and the rollback rights were frozen until the user undergoes a mandatory CVU training? He is definitely very enthusiastic about this project, but we might benefit a lot more (than be on our toes) if that enthusiasm was mixed with the proper kind of advice and training. TheOriginalSoni ( talk) 10:10, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
Hi Andrew. I'm just letting you know that I have revoked Greatuser's use of rollback. I have also asked him to stop using STiki immediately. Perhaps you could review the situation, but I'm sure you'll come to the same conclusion. I think the sooner this is done, it will avoid anyone creating unnecessary drama by opening an ANI case. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 13:08, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
Hello guys I was thinking if we could arrange a separate section for new requests(like AWB or something similar) to use STiki here.Every user planning to use the tool adds a new section unnecessarily increasing the length of the page. Cheers and Season's greetings! TheStrike Σagle 13:17, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
Please grant me access to STiki. I want to help reduce vandalism, but I'm struggling to find articles to edit. This tool would be a great help. Thanks. - OneAwesomeGuy ( talk) 06:32, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
Hi Andrew, please remove my STiki rights until I request them again, because I will not be using this account for a while until probably February 2013 or so. Cheers! Kevin12xd ( talk) ( contribs) 03:43, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
It appears someone at Wikipedia has changed the way diffs are rendered (without notification, it would seem). This does not play nice with my code, thus STiki is seeing every edit as a "null revision" and showing nothing in the diff browser. I am investigating the problem. In the meantime, please close your STiki instances, because my database is getting smashed as all clients are continually requesting fresh reservations. Thanks, West.andrew.g ( talk) 20:32, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
Hello! Would it be possible to allow User:Vacation9 Public to use STiki and have it map to my account? I heard this is possible now due to backend changes. Thanks, Vacation nine 12:51, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
Greetings! I've been an editor for a while now (although only a really active editor for about a week), and the past few days I've started doing manual vandalism patrolling using the Old school method of watching the Recent changes and clicking (diff) links for changes with no summary. I have a sneaking feeling that it's not having much effect. I've reverted some things, some obviously vandalism, some probably a new user experimenting, some obviously good faith edits that happened not to be constructive.
I would use Twinkle or some similar tool, but unfortunately I'm using a public computer that limits my access to updated browsers and some software. STiki works, and I'd love to have permission to use it to make Wikipedia better. Thanks! -- Kierkkadon talk/ contribs 14:40, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
In this release you'll find a couple of minor front-end changes and bug fixes. These had been accumulating for a good while, so I decided to go ahead and release without any real "centerpiece" feature. As always, thanks for your continued support. West.andrew.g ( talk) 17:25, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
I did some vandalism removal job here and West said he can allow me to get permission for using this super, awesome tool. Thanks! Wiki4Blog ( talk) 15:47, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
This is so simple it must be a perrenial request, but I do not see it in an archive so I will ask; It would be crazy to update the leaderboard in real time, but could a system be developed similar to a manual purge link that an actual editor can use to refresh the stats? Not sure how much impact that system would have on resources. I... Um, have a bad case of editcountitis and it kills me everyday to wait for the 12AM refresh. :$ Thank you for all your hard work and great product Andrew! I'm using it religiously now, from Huggle. I'm climbing that leaderboard! Cheers; - T.I.M( Contact) 15:26, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
AutomaticStrikeout ( talk | contribs) | 1329 | 36.19% | 18.66% | Cluebot-NG | 265 days ago | 10 days ago | 5.02 edits | 25 |
Titodutta ( talk | contribs) | 1318 | 22.38% | 43.47% | Cluebot-NG | 1 days ago | 0 days ago | 1318 edits | 1318 |
braincricket ( talk | contribs) | 1290 | 30.78% | 30.47% | Cluebot-NG | 131 days ago | 99 days ago | 9.85 edits | 0 |
And one needs to scroll back to top to see what does 43.47% etc mean! Surely, it'll not an issue for me after few days, but not easy for first/rare time visitor. If the table is split into multiple sub tables (ranking 1-250, 251-500 etc) it'll be to easy to to follow the header!
CC SA attribution: Some portion of this post is copied from Wikipedia:STiki/leaderboard -- Tito Dutta ( talk) 16:24, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
35,000+ edits, OS: Windows 7, BitZipper, after extracting files when I am double clicking on the JAR file, the file list is opening in BitZipper. I am certainly missing a very easy thing. Can someone point out? -- Tito Dutta ( talk) 10:56, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
Bang, within 3 minutes of starting using STiki, I have got an an alert "potential overuse of pass button"! Manual says "Pass" means "Skip". Of course, I'll skip until I'm 100% sure of an edit. Any harm of overusing "pass" button? Any suggestion? -- Tito Dutta ( talk) 11:23, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
Hi Tito. You asked if any harm would be done by passing a lot. Well.. yes and no. No direct harm is done. The concern is that if some edits are passed by a lot of people then they all waste a small amount time on those edits, which adds up to a lot of time, which would otherwise be spent looking at better candidates for reversion. That's why if you think that the vast majority of STiki users wouldn't know you should just press innocent, and leave the edit to article watchlisters. Of course, this requires you to guess at what other STiki users will do, which is easier said than done... so, especially as someone new to STiki, it is understandable that you pass a lot. Yaris678 ( talk) 22:19, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
Is there any way to–
In short, please tell me about STiki customization options! -- Tito Dutta ( talk) 11:57, 17 January 2013 (UTC) Answers by SE
WRT Tito's second bullet point at the top of this thread... I agree that it would help to make the edit summary more prominent. It was suggested here that it should be put at the top of the edit properties box. I agreed with that suggestion. It might also help to do something else to make it stand out - the edit summary is a lot more useful than the other info. I would be against putting it in bold... but maybe make the font one point bigger.
On a related note, I notice that sometimes the edit summary is truncated. It appears that the GUI doesn't give it much space. I suggest that the box in the GUI be expanded so that the whole edit summary can be read without clicking through to the diff. Yaris678 ( talk) 22:14, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
I do remember this coming up before. I will now add explicitly to the bug-tracking/feature-request table so it doesn't escape my memory in the future. Thanks, West.andrew.g ( talk) 05:42, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
Thanks a lot for answering my questions on the first day of my STiki use. The answers are really helpful. Is there any option to have a simple "revert" option as "catch-all" (typo, Wikicreole error, MoS error, edit test etc). I generally use the word "vandalism" very carefully. For example, please see this edit, there was nothing "good faith" in that edit, but not a serious vandal attack too. A simple revert option might be helpful here! -- Tito Dutta ( talk) 15:44, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
Do you mind if I create a barnstar for STiki?-- Pratyya (Hello!) 13:21, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
... here -- Tito Dutta ( talk) 07:03, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
That is a very odd case. MrDilly ( talk · contribs) created an article with just an infobox. He then expanded the article and was reverted "Revert non-encyclopedic addition - content needs to be factual and neutral in nature". Unfortunately we can't tell what the edit was because it has been deleted. MrDilly kept adding stuff and has been reverted multiple times, including by Titodutta. I don't think any of the reverts used STiki. Titodutta submitted the case to AIV manually. Tito submitted other cases using STiki at around the same time, which may have lead to some confusion. Mr Dilly has not edited recently.
Although the edits were deleted, we can get some idea of their content from this post on his talk page.
In summary, MrDilly appears to have been doing adding non-encyclopedic and copyright-infringing information. This was reverted a number of times and deleted from the record, presumably because of the copyright infringement.
Tito, for future reference, I wouldn't have used the term edit-warring in this situation. I would say "repeatedly adding copyright-infringing material" or something like that. I would also post the message at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents, rather than AIV. That's what it suggests at Wikipedia:Copyright violations.
Yaris678 ( talk) 13:10, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
Greetings team. I am going through some feature-requests and bug-fixes today. Towards that, I have begun to look at T#019. The idea is that after pressing "AGF revert", a dialogue will pop-up (if the option is enabled) that will allow you to author a custom message for the user's talk page. In addition to just a blank (and dull) form field, I'd like to have a drop-down box with some common default messages (maybe things like "unacceptable grammar", "Wikipedia is not a fan site", etc. etc.). I'd appreciate if you guys could split off a page and collaborate on what (a) types there should be, and (b) what they should say -- while I concentrate on the technical bits. We can of course have placeholders for things like "username", "article edited", etc. Thanks, West.andrew.g ( talk) 18:01, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
Stay signed in! Possible? -- Tito Dutta ( talk) 18:05, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
I previously asked for permission to use STiki here, but my application was politely rejected due to my lack of experience. I have since done what I feel is a lot of constructive contributing in a short time, and I feel confident in my own abilities to use STiki responsibly. As such, I'm asking again if I may be permitted to use what looks like a great tool for monitoring vandalism on wikipedia. -- Kierkkadon talk/ contribs 15:24, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
Because I'm the sort of person I am, I decided to use the old version of STiki (2012_12_04) and see if the WikiTrust and LinkSpam queues still work. And they do!
Yaris678 ( talk) 20:32, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
Hi Andrew, I just did a good-faith revert. I like the new message feature, although I decided not to use it on this occasion.
One slight quibble. I notice that there is a general message, which says
==Recent edits to #a#==
[[Image:Information.svg|25px]] Hello, and thank you for your recent contributions. I appreciate the effort you made for our project, but unfortunately I had to undo your edit(s) because it did not meet one or more of our [[WP:LOP|policies]]. Feel free to read more there, or contact me directly if you have any questions. Thank you! ~~~~
I don't think a general message should mention policies. Two reasons:
Maybe the general message should be
==Recent edits to #a#==
[[Image:Information.svg|25px]] Hello, and thank you for your recent contributions. I appreciate the effort you made for our project, but I decided to revert your edit(s) to #a#. If you would like to discuss this change, feel free to leave a message on my talk page or #at#. Thank you! ~~~~
Note that #at# means the article talk page. Yaris678 ( talk) 21:39, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
How does one get permission to use this program? Seems like it's a great tool.-- YHoshua ( talk) 04:19, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
Can anyone suggest me what to do with this? They deleted whole article, so my revet was correct there! But, the way they are criticizing us for giving wrong/false information and demanding an apology from Wikipedia, should we do something or leave as it is? (I know almost nothing about the subject) -- Tito Dutta ( talk) 18:46, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
After going through recent changes old school with the help of twinkle, this is a great improvement. But more warning templates would be great, because we can't choose a level of warning, nor most of templates for specific kinds of disruptive editing. If I'm wrong, could you tell me how to get more warning templates? Thanks! ― Ross coolguy 23:54, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
Hello! I really appreciate the hard work that has gone into making STiki such a wonderful tool, but, even as I continue to use it, I find it very annoying that I am getting messages asking me to not "pass" as often. I think that users should not feel pressured to find something innocent that they do not know the details of. Yes, I feel that editors should do their due diligence is screening out potential information on their own, but sometimes things just aren't in our area of expertise. The reason that it is really annoying, though, is that I often find an error, go to the actual page on Wikipedia to fix it, then pass so that I'm not reverting my own changes. The original edit isn't necessarily innocent (or "guilty"), but my changes are fine, so I want to leave it untouched. Andrew, what is your recommendation - should I hit "innocent" instead (thus avoiding someone reverting my changes unintentionally), should a new option be added ("fix manually"), or should the warning be reduced, or some alternative? Please advise. Thanks again! -- Jackson Peebles ( talk) 18:39, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
Hi! I've recently been doing a fair bit of vandalism reverting so I was wondering whether I could be granted special permission to use the Stiki tool. If you are concerned whether I am a trusted user or not, I have the reviewer permission and a clean block log. I also have an understanding of the relevant wiki policies regarding vandalism. My contributions are mainly in the area of GA reviews, of which I have conducted about 30. If you have any questions regarding my application please ask. Thanks! ★ ★ Retro Lord ★★ 00:53, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
There appears to be a spelling error in the pre-made good faith revert messages. The one for unencyclopedic details says something like "we maycollaborate" without a space between the two words. Is anyone else getting this? ★ ★ Retro Lord ★★ 03:32, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
The project page is potentially daunting to newcomers, by merit of being so prose-dense and well-documented. Might there be a YouTube video the curious could watch to get an entertaining, quick, and visual how-to demo of STiki? Biosthmors ( talk) 20:41, 26 February 2013 (UTC)
I have created a new version of the STiki Barnstar of Merit, available here. I believe that this could potentially be used for an editor's 100,00th classification. I am open to any suggestions any of you make. Thank you. Frigid Ninja 23:22, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
My STiKi client was working fine up until about an hour ago, it now appears that it cannot connect to the STiKi server(or whatever it logs into) when i enter my account username and password. Any ideas? ★ ★ Retro Lord ★★ 07:43, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
-- It appears to be fixed. Thanks! ★ ★ Retro Lord ★★ 08:57, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
I would like to have permission to use STiki. I have been doing quite a bit of vandalism reverting and would like to be able to use STiki to be able to spot more vandalism. I think I will be able to help make Wikipedia stay a safe learning enviroment more using STiki.-- Liberalufp ( talk) 22:05, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
Related to my last post, I thought I would try to get STiki working on my girlfriend's computer. It didn't work from double clicking on the icon so I had a go through the command line. The screen dump here shows the text I got back.
I'm using Windows 7 and Java updated itself yesterday. I don't think its anything specific to the Java update; I've tried and failed to get it to run on this machine before.
Yaris678 ( talk) 10:22, 17 February 2013 (UTC)
java -jar foo.jar. Thanks, West.andrew.g ( talk) 17:53, 22 February 2013 (UTC)
(Dissertation writing, so I can't dig too deep at current). I would look at trying to force a Java update, as Java 7 has been around since mid-2011. This might also be a generally good idea, given some of the security issues that Java's browser plug-in environment has been having as of late. Thanks, West.andrew.g ( talk) 19:04, 5 March 2013 (UTC)
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Hello,
I am currently trying to learn and get hands on with fighting vandalism on wiki, only that I do not know how to find vandals easily. I would like to use STiki to make correct choices and fight vandalism appropriately. Can I get the permission to use it? (Sadly I do not possess enough experience to get the rollback permission which I would have preffered.). Thanks, TheOriginalSoni ( talk) 18:49, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
There is an innate problem with rewarding people with attention for their number of edits and revisions. There are people who will defacto vandalize good edits when they think they can get away with it just to move up such boards. The most likely people this will happen to is people who don't bother to log in before tweaking some small item. They likely won't notice such a reversion has taken place until and unless they happen to go back to the page, which might never happen.
I suggest to you that making a "leaderboard" is a very very bad idea.
--
OBloodyHell (
talk) 08:16, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
I have just had a go with the WikiTrust queue for the first time in ages and absolutely every diff I saw was over 200 days old. I think the range was about 205 to 275.
Needless to say all the diffs were innocent. A lot of them were category changes like this and redirects like this.
I did manage to fine two WP:CUTANDPASTE moves, so it didn't feel entirely unproductive.
Andrew, can you investigate why WikiTrust is showing such consistently old diffs? My first guess would be that the WikiTrust server may have been down for the last 205 days and so no new scores have been gathered for that queue since then.
If this is so and if there is no immediate prospect of the WikiTrust server coming back on line, it may be a good idea to remove this queue from the STiki GUI.
Yaris678 ( talk) 20:52, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
Please grant me permission to use STiki. I do a lot of vandal reverting, new page patrolling etc. so this tool would help me out a lot. Cheers! Kevin12xd... | speak up | take a peek | email me 22:39, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
Pending-changes protection started being applied to some articles on the 1st of December and it seems to be rolling out smoothly and slowly.
Therefore, it may be a good time to discuss the relationship between PC and STiki. I think this comes under a number of categories. I have put them below in different sub sections, in case people want to discuss any of them further.
Yaris678 ( talk) 19:32, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
Based on my understanding of the two systems, I don't think there should be any real incompatibility between PC and STiki. In some situations, if you revert an edit on a PC-protected page your edit will await approval by a reviewer before it "goes live". But unless someone has already approved a vandalised version of the page, the vandalised version will never "go live" so no harm will be done.
The one situation when a STiki user's revert will be automatically be approved will be fairly common but it requires a number of things to all be true:
Yaris678 ( talk) 19:32, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
There will be many STiki users who would make good reviewers. If you think you may be in this category, check out WP:Reviewing. That explains more, including how to get the "right". Yaris678 ( talk) 19:32, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
STiki users will come across many pages that are suitable for pending-changes protection. Wikipedia:Protection policy#When to apply pending changes protection says PC-protection can be applied to pages that are not frequently edited but do suffer from persistent vandalism, BLP violations or copyright infringements. So if you come across an article with a lot of vandalism in its history that isn't getting a lot of attention then I suggest requesting protection at WP:RFPP. Yaris678 ( talk) 19:32, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
Hi Andrew, I think it would help if you introduced a function that...well, let me just roleplay it:
Cheers, Kevin12xd... | speak up | take a peek | email me 00:52, 18 December 2012 (UTC) By the way, STiki is working out really well for me and I appreciate your creation of the tool.
In the message that you send to new STiki users, the link to userboxes needs to be changed to WP:STiki#Userboxes, awards, and miscellania. I would change it myself, but I'm not sure where the template is. The Anonymouse ( talk • contribs) Merry Christmas! 05:59, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
Hello, Please give me the permission of using STiki so that i can revert Vandalism I have read essays, pages related to Vandalism I have completely come to know what is Vandalism and What is not Vandalism? I also tried in Rollbacking Permission but i was denied Please enable STiki in my account, Thank You Greatuser ( talk) 10:26, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
Seeing this and this, would it not be prudent if the STiki permissions and the rollback rights were frozen until the user undergoes a mandatory CVU training? He is definitely very enthusiastic about this project, but we might benefit a lot more (than be on our toes) if that enthusiasm was mixed with the proper kind of advice and training. TheOriginalSoni ( talk) 10:10, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
Hi Andrew. I'm just letting you know that I have revoked Greatuser's use of rollback. I have also asked him to stop using STiki immediately. Perhaps you could review the situation, but I'm sure you'll come to the same conclusion. I think the sooner this is done, it will avoid anyone creating unnecessary drama by opening an ANI case. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 13:08, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
Hello guys I was thinking if we could arrange a separate section for new requests(like AWB or something similar) to use STiki here.Every user planning to use the tool adds a new section unnecessarily increasing the length of the page. Cheers and Season's greetings! TheStrike Σagle 13:17, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
Please grant me access to STiki. I want to help reduce vandalism, but I'm struggling to find articles to edit. This tool would be a great help. Thanks. - OneAwesomeGuy ( talk) 06:32, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
Hi Andrew, please remove my STiki rights until I request them again, because I will not be using this account for a while until probably February 2013 or so. Cheers! Kevin12xd ( talk) ( contribs) 03:43, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
It appears someone at Wikipedia has changed the way diffs are rendered (without notification, it would seem). This does not play nice with my code, thus STiki is seeing every edit as a "null revision" and showing nothing in the diff browser. I am investigating the problem. In the meantime, please close your STiki instances, because my database is getting smashed as all clients are continually requesting fresh reservations. Thanks, West.andrew.g ( talk) 20:32, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
Hello! Would it be possible to allow User:Vacation9 Public to use STiki and have it map to my account? I heard this is possible now due to backend changes. Thanks, Vacation nine 12:51, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
Greetings! I've been an editor for a while now (although only a really active editor for about a week), and the past few days I've started doing manual vandalism patrolling using the Old school method of watching the Recent changes and clicking (diff) links for changes with no summary. I have a sneaking feeling that it's not having much effect. I've reverted some things, some obviously vandalism, some probably a new user experimenting, some obviously good faith edits that happened not to be constructive.
I would use Twinkle or some similar tool, but unfortunately I'm using a public computer that limits my access to updated browsers and some software. STiki works, and I'd love to have permission to use it to make Wikipedia better. Thanks! -- Kierkkadon talk/ contribs 14:40, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
In this release you'll find a couple of minor front-end changes and bug fixes. These had been accumulating for a good while, so I decided to go ahead and release without any real "centerpiece" feature. As always, thanks for your continued support. West.andrew.g ( talk) 17:25, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
I did some vandalism removal job here and West said he can allow me to get permission for using this super, awesome tool. Thanks! Wiki4Blog ( talk) 15:47, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
This is so simple it must be a perrenial request, but I do not see it in an archive so I will ask; It would be crazy to update the leaderboard in real time, but could a system be developed similar to a manual purge link that an actual editor can use to refresh the stats? Not sure how much impact that system would have on resources. I... Um, have a bad case of editcountitis and it kills me everyday to wait for the 12AM refresh. :$ Thank you for all your hard work and great product Andrew! I'm using it religiously now, from Huggle. I'm climbing that leaderboard! Cheers; - T.I.M( Contact) 15:26, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
AutomaticStrikeout ( talk | contribs) | 1329 | 36.19% | 18.66% | Cluebot-NG | 265 days ago | 10 days ago | 5.02 edits | 25 |
Titodutta ( talk | contribs) | 1318 | 22.38% | 43.47% | Cluebot-NG | 1 days ago | 0 days ago | 1318 edits | 1318 |
braincricket ( talk | contribs) | 1290 | 30.78% | 30.47% | Cluebot-NG | 131 days ago | 99 days ago | 9.85 edits | 0 |
And one needs to scroll back to top to see what does 43.47% etc mean! Surely, it'll not an issue for me after few days, but not easy for first/rare time visitor. If the table is split into multiple sub tables (ranking 1-250, 251-500 etc) it'll be to easy to to follow the header!
CC SA attribution: Some portion of this post is copied from Wikipedia:STiki/leaderboard -- Tito Dutta ( talk) 16:24, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
35,000+ edits, OS: Windows 7, BitZipper, after extracting files when I am double clicking on the JAR file, the file list is opening in BitZipper. I am certainly missing a very easy thing. Can someone point out? -- Tito Dutta ( talk) 10:56, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
Bang, within 3 minutes of starting using STiki, I have got an an alert "potential overuse of pass button"! Manual says "Pass" means "Skip". Of course, I'll skip until I'm 100% sure of an edit. Any harm of overusing "pass" button? Any suggestion? -- Tito Dutta ( talk) 11:23, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
Hi Tito. You asked if any harm would be done by passing a lot. Well.. yes and no. No direct harm is done. The concern is that if some edits are passed by a lot of people then they all waste a small amount time on those edits, which adds up to a lot of time, which would otherwise be spent looking at better candidates for reversion. That's why if you think that the vast majority of STiki users wouldn't know you should just press innocent, and leave the edit to article watchlisters. Of course, this requires you to guess at what other STiki users will do, which is easier said than done... so, especially as someone new to STiki, it is understandable that you pass a lot. Yaris678 ( talk) 22:19, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
Is there any way to–
In short, please tell me about STiki customization options! -- Tito Dutta ( talk) 11:57, 17 January 2013 (UTC) Answers by SE
WRT Tito's second bullet point at the top of this thread... I agree that it would help to make the edit summary more prominent. It was suggested here that it should be put at the top of the edit properties box. I agreed with that suggestion. It might also help to do something else to make it stand out - the edit summary is a lot more useful than the other info. I would be against putting it in bold... but maybe make the font one point bigger.
On a related note, I notice that sometimes the edit summary is truncated. It appears that the GUI doesn't give it much space. I suggest that the box in the GUI be expanded so that the whole edit summary can be read without clicking through to the diff. Yaris678 ( talk) 22:14, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
I do remember this coming up before. I will now add explicitly to the bug-tracking/feature-request table so it doesn't escape my memory in the future. Thanks, West.andrew.g ( talk) 05:42, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
Thanks a lot for answering my questions on the first day of my STiki use. The answers are really helpful. Is there any option to have a simple "revert" option as "catch-all" (typo, Wikicreole error, MoS error, edit test etc). I generally use the word "vandalism" very carefully. For example, please see this edit, there was nothing "good faith" in that edit, but not a serious vandal attack too. A simple revert option might be helpful here! -- Tito Dutta ( talk) 15:44, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
Do you mind if I create a barnstar for STiki?-- Pratyya (Hello!) 13:21, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
... here -- Tito Dutta ( talk) 07:03, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
That is a very odd case. MrDilly ( talk · contribs) created an article with just an infobox. He then expanded the article and was reverted "Revert non-encyclopedic addition - content needs to be factual and neutral in nature". Unfortunately we can't tell what the edit was because it has been deleted. MrDilly kept adding stuff and has been reverted multiple times, including by Titodutta. I don't think any of the reverts used STiki. Titodutta submitted the case to AIV manually. Tito submitted other cases using STiki at around the same time, which may have lead to some confusion. Mr Dilly has not edited recently.
Although the edits were deleted, we can get some idea of their content from this post on his talk page.
In summary, MrDilly appears to have been doing adding non-encyclopedic and copyright-infringing information. This was reverted a number of times and deleted from the record, presumably because of the copyright infringement.
Tito, for future reference, I wouldn't have used the term edit-warring in this situation. I would say "repeatedly adding copyright-infringing material" or something like that. I would also post the message at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents, rather than AIV. That's what it suggests at Wikipedia:Copyright violations.
Yaris678 ( talk) 13:10, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
Greetings team. I am going through some feature-requests and bug-fixes today. Towards that, I have begun to look at T#019. The idea is that after pressing "AGF revert", a dialogue will pop-up (if the option is enabled) that will allow you to author a custom message for the user's talk page. In addition to just a blank (and dull) form field, I'd like to have a drop-down box with some common default messages (maybe things like "unacceptable grammar", "Wikipedia is not a fan site", etc. etc.). I'd appreciate if you guys could split off a page and collaborate on what (a) types there should be, and (b) what they should say -- while I concentrate on the technical bits. We can of course have placeholders for things like "username", "article edited", etc. Thanks, West.andrew.g ( talk) 18:01, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
Stay signed in! Possible? -- Tito Dutta ( talk) 18:05, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
I previously asked for permission to use STiki here, but my application was politely rejected due to my lack of experience. I have since done what I feel is a lot of constructive contributing in a short time, and I feel confident in my own abilities to use STiki responsibly. As such, I'm asking again if I may be permitted to use what looks like a great tool for monitoring vandalism on wikipedia. -- Kierkkadon talk/ contribs 15:24, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
Because I'm the sort of person I am, I decided to use the old version of STiki (2012_12_04) and see if the WikiTrust and LinkSpam queues still work. And they do!
Yaris678 ( talk) 20:32, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
Hi Andrew, I just did a good-faith revert. I like the new message feature, although I decided not to use it on this occasion.
One slight quibble. I notice that there is a general message, which says
==Recent edits to #a#==
[[Image:Information.svg|25px]] Hello, and thank you for your recent contributions. I appreciate the effort you made for our project, but unfortunately I had to undo your edit(s) because it did not meet one or more of our [[WP:LOP|policies]]. Feel free to read more there, or contact me directly if you have any questions. Thank you! ~~~~
I don't think a general message should mention policies. Two reasons:
Maybe the general message should be
==Recent edits to #a#==
[[Image:Information.svg|25px]] Hello, and thank you for your recent contributions. I appreciate the effort you made for our project, but I decided to revert your edit(s) to #a#. If you would like to discuss this change, feel free to leave a message on my talk page or #at#. Thank you! ~~~~
Note that #at# means the article talk page. Yaris678 ( talk) 21:39, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
How does one get permission to use this program? Seems like it's a great tool.-- YHoshua ( talk) 04:19, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
Can anyone suggest me what to do with this? They deleted whole article, so my revet was correct there! But, the way they are criticizing us for giving wrong/false information and demanding an apology from Wikipedia, should we do something or leave as it is? (I know almost nothing about the subject) -- Tito Dutta ( talk) 18:46, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
After going through recent changes old school with the help of twinkle, this is a great improvement. But more warning templates would be great, because we can't choose a level of warning, nor most of templates for specific kinds of disruptive editing. If I'm wrong, could you tell me how to get more warning templates? Thanks! ― Ross coolguy 23:54, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
Hello! I really appreciate the hard work that has gone into making STiki such a wonderful tool, but, even as I continue to use it, I find it very annoying that I am getting messages asking me to not "pass" as often. I think that users should not feel pressured to find something innocent that they do not know the details of. Yes, I feel that editors should do their due diligence is screening out potential information on their own, but sometimes things just aren't in our area of expertise. The reason that it is really annoying, though, is that I often find an error, go to the actual page on Wikipedia to fix it, then pass so that I'm not reverting my own changes. The original edit isn't necessarily innocent (or "guilty"), but my changes are fine, so I want to leave it untouched. Andrew, what is your recommendation - should I hit "innocent" instead (thus avoiding someone reverting my changes unintentionally), should a new option be added ("fix manually"), or should the warning be reduced, or some alternative? Please advise. Thanks again! -- Jackson Peebles ( talk) 18:39, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
Hi! I've recently been doing a fair bit of vandalism reverting so I was wondering whether I could be granted special permission to use the Stiki tool. If you are concerned whether I am a trusted user or not, I have the reviewer permission and a clean block log. I also have an understanding of the relevant wiki policies regarding vandalism. My contributions are mainly in the area of GA reviews, of which I have conducted about 30. If you have any questions regarding my application please ask. Thanks! ★ ★ Retro Lord ★★ 00:53, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
There appears to be a spelling error in the pre-made good faith revert messages. The one for unencyclopedic details says something like "we maycollaborate" without a space between the two words. Is anyone else getting this? ★ ★ Retro Lord ★★ 03:32, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
The project page is potentially daunting to newcomers, by merit of being so prose-dense and well-documented. Might there be a YouTube video the curious could watch to get an entertaining, quick, and visual how-to demo of STiki? Biosthmors ( talk) 20:41, 26 February 2013 (UTC)
I have created a new version of the STiki Barnstar of Merit, available here. I believe that this could potentially be used for an editor's 100,00th classification. I am open to any suggestions any of you make. Thank you. Frigid Ninja 23:22, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
My STiKi client was working fine up until about an hour ago, it now appears that it cannot connect to the STiKi server(or whatever it logs into) when i enter my account username and password. Any ideas? ★ ★ Retro Lord ★★ 07:43, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
-- It appears to be fixed. Thanks! ★ ★ Retro Lord ★★ 08:57, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
I would like to have permission to use STiki. I have been doing quite a bit of vandalism reverting and would like to be able to use STiki to be able to spot more vandalism. I think I will be able to help make Wikipedia stay a safe learning enviroment more using STiki.-- Liberalufp ( talk) 22:05, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
Related to my last post, I thought I would try to get STiki working on my girlfriend's computer. It didn't work from double clicking on the icon so I had a go through the command line. The screen dump here shows the text I got back.
I'm using Windows 7 and Java updated itself yesterday. I don't think its anything specific to the Java update; I've tried and failed to get it to run on this machine before.
Yaris678 ( talk) 10:22, 17 February 2013 (UTC)
java -jar foo.jar. Thanks, West.andrew.g ( talk) 17:53, 22 February 2013 (UTC)
(Dissertation writing, so I can't dig too deep at current). I would look at trying to force a Java update, as Java 7 has been around since mid-2011. This might also be a generally good idea, given some of the security issues that Java's browser plug-in environment has been having as of late. Thanks, West.andrew.g ( talk) 19:04, 5 March 2013 (UTC)