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As seen here doesn't this violate WP:External Links?- UCO2009bluejay ( talk) 06:59, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
Can anyone here help to clean up and add references to Monte Kiffin, so it can get posted at ITN/RD? Thanks, Natg 19 ( talk) 16:25, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
NFL player from 1920s. Cbl62 ( talk) 00:41, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
I wanted to know if there was a consensus against adding notable team broadcast personnel, such as play-by-play and analysts, to team staff templates? They are usually not listed anywhere else outside of the team's main article (if that) and in many cases are filled with former players who are clearly more notable than most that fill other minor roles such as strength and conditioning coaches and front office assistants. ~ Dissident93 ( talk) 00:42, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
radio=[[WBIG-FM]] (Big 100):<br />([[Bram Weinstein]] and [[London Fletcher]])
or even list the full broadcast team like on those MLB pages.
Template:Washington Commanders staff is currently not used on any page that does not include the team's station.
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10:23, 23 July 2024 (UTC)I attempted to get some sort of consensus on this back in December, but the discussion ended up being about whether or not to include network information in the tables at all per WP:NOTTVGUIDE and quickly died out. While I agree that it's a discussion to be had, this is not what I'm trying to get consensus on now.
I've more than a couple times seen people remove streaming services from schedule tables and game boxes in favor of adding in the local networks broadcasting the games, like in this edit. Including the streaming service in these situations could at least be argued as useful for anyone using Wikipedia as their primary way of finding information about when/how to watch, but I don't see the value in having the local stations there instead. KristofferAG ( talk) 20:50, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
... but the discussion ended up being about whether or not to include network information in the tables at all per WP:NOTTVGUIDE and quickly died out: But nobody there justified having any channel or network information listed. — Bagumba ( talk) 23:24, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
The list of suspensions in the NFL page violates WP:NOTCATALOG; we don't need to document every single suspension the NFL has ever handed out. I propose that we at least give it some sort of inclusion guideline if the page's scope can't be changed, such as omitting the (4-6 game) substance policy suspensions since those basically require no real work from the league as they are automatically given if a player fails a drug test. ~ Dissident93 ( talk) 19:42, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
Hello, Yankees10 and I are having a dispute at Jordan Love. Seeing as there is some history here considering accusations of me "owning" the article, I'm bringing it here for input. Basically, the dispute revolves around a second source from Packers.com being added to a statement regarding him signing his new contract extension. I had added a source from ESPN.com to verify the signing, which is a reputable, third party source. Another editor added a second citation after the sentence to Packers.com, which is technically a self-published primary source. I removed it as excessive, Yankees10 reverted to add it back in. I reverted and explained myself a bit more in the edit summary, they reverted again accusing me of article ownership and edit warring (noting I have only reverted once, they have reverted twice). So basically the issue is whether his signing needs to be supported by the primary Packers.com source in addition to the ESPN.com source. I'll also note that the current placement of the Packers.com source is confusing, because it does not support the facts in the preceding sentence (rather it supports the facts in the sentence before the one it is attached at the end of).
I think WP:V and WP:CITATION supports the basic premise that the minimum number of sources to support a fact is most appropriate, and that third party sources are much more preferred over self-published primary sources like Packers.com. WP:OVERCITE provides a good essay on how too many citations can hinder readers and editors. I will also note, since this is early in Love's career, I am trying real hard to avoid what happened with Aaron Rodgers and his 512 inclined citations. It is so much easier to avoid early instead of having to clean up later.
« Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 02:45, 1 August 2024 (UTC)
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As seen here doesn't this violate WP:External Links?- UCO2009bluejay ( talk) 06:59, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
Can anyone here help to clean up and add references to Monte Kiffin, so it can get posted at ITN/RD? Thanks, Natg 19 ( talk) 16:25, 12 July 2024 (UTC)
NFL player from 1920s. Cbl62 ( talk) 00:41, 16 July 2024 (UTC)
I wanted to know if there was a consensus against adding notable team broadcast personnel, such as play-by-play and analysts, to team staff templates? They are usually not listed anywhere else outside of the team's main article (if that) and in many cases are filled with former players who are clearly more notable than most that fill other minor roles such as strength and conditioning coaches and front office assistants. ~ Dissident93 ( talk) 00:42, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
radio=[[WBIG-FM]] (Big 100):<br />([[Bram Weinstein]] and [[London Fletcher]])
or even list the full broadcast team like on those MLB pages.
Template:Washington Commanders staff is currently not used on any page that does not include the team's station.
Zzyzx11 (
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10:23, 23 July 2024 (UTC)I attempted to get some sort of consensus on this back in December, but the discussion ended up being about whether or not to include network information in the tables at all per WP:NOTTVGUIDE and quickly died out. While I agree that it's a discussion to be had, this is not what I'm trying to get consensus on now.
I've more than a couple times seen people remove streaming services from schedule tables and game boxes in favor of adding in the local networks broadcasting the games, like in this edit. Including the streaming service in these situations could at least be argued as useful for anyone using Wikipedia as their primary way of finding information about when/how to watch, but I don't see the value in having the local stations there instead. KristofferAG ( talk) 20:50, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
... but the discussion ended up being about whether or not to include network information in the tables at all per WP:NOTTVGUIDE and quickly died out: But nobody there justified having any channel or network information listed. — Bagumba ( talk) 23:24, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
The list of suspensions in the NFL page violates WP:NOTCATALOG; we don't need to document every single suspension the NFL has ever handed out. I propose that we at least give it some sort of inclusion guideline if the page's scope can't be changed, such as omitting the (4-6 game) substance policy suspensions since those basically require no real work from the league as they are automatically given if a player fails a drug test. ~ Dissident93 ( talk) 19:42, 31 July 2024 (UTC)
Hello, Yankees10 and I are having a dispute at Jordan Love. Seeing as there is some history here considering accusations of me "owning" the article, I'm bringing it here for input. Basically, the dispute revolves around a second source from Packers.com being added to a statement regarding him signing his new contract extension. I had added a source from ESPN.com to verify the signing, which is a reputable, third party source. Another editor added a second citation after the sentence to Packers.com, which is technically a self-published primary source. I removed it as excessive, Yankees10 reverted to add it back in. I reverted and explained myself a bit more in the edit summary, they reverted again accusing me of article ownership and edit warring (noting I have only reverted once, they have reverted twice). So basically the issue is whether his signing needs to be supported by the primary Packers.com source in addition to the ESPN.com source. I'll also note that the current placement of the Packers.com source is confusing, because it does not support the facts in the preceding sentence (rather it supports the facts in the sentence before the one it is attached at the end of).
I think WP:V and WP:CITATION supports the basic premise that the minimum number of sources to support a fact is most appropriate, and that third party sources are much more preferred over self-published primary sources like Packers.com. WP:OVERCITE provides a good essay on how too many citations can hinder readers and editors. I will also note, since this is early in Love's career, I am trying real hard to avoid what happened with Aaron Rodgers and his 512 inclined citations. It is so much easier to avoid early instead of having to clean up later.
« Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 02:45, 1 August 2024 (UTC)