I agree with the majority of what Deckiller has said, although I feel I should point out that yes, Angie has apologised to TTN now, however the dispute with the episodes remains. I think the RfC will definitely benefit Angie and other editors involved.
Very good constructive advice from Deckiller.
Seraphim Whipp 17:39, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
I am entering a calm phrase. I just want the whole debate to start over. Angie Y. 18:31, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
That's a good idea. That way, I won't be in trouble and something can be done within the debate. :) I really don't wanna be blocked from here and I hope this RfC will close soon. Angie Y. 19:28, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
Maybe if this episode guideline was further explained to me, maybe I'll understand and this RfC can be abolished. Angie Y. 22:22, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
I'm sorry Matthew, but I respectfully disagree with what you've said. All the evidence shows that Angie's behaviour is unacceptable. You say the diffs are unfair, but let me tell you, I went through every single one of Angie's contribs, and this is what I found; a history of incivility and unacceptable behaviour. Do you think that type of behvaiour should go unnoticed? I did not create this RfC to harass Angie; I created it because her behaviour is unacceptable.
Seraphim Whipp 10:18, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
Suprise! The editor formerly known as Alcemáe only sees incivility in others, but does not see his/her sarcastic belittling as adding to the problem. I suppose I will have to spend an inordinate amount of time providing the long list of incivility. I guess I'll get to it later. Ursasapien (talk) 11:29, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
I have notified everyone who may have been involved in the dispute. In the interests of fairness, if there's anyone I've missed, let 'em know.
Note: I am not canvassing (as some are eager to not assume good faith), I am purely letting everyone know.
Seraphim Whipp 17:32, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
Upon reading on the developments at this TfD, I noticed someone had made a comment regarding Angie's usuage of the template. Looking at her contribs shows she is behaving in a disruptive way. I'm extremely dissappointed and confused by this behaviour.
For fear that my behaviour appears as wiki-stalking (to people like Matthew), I will not ask Angie about this directly (despite wanting to know why), although I thought this needed mentioning.
I'm really am disappointed because I thought Angie was learning from this RfC.
Seraphim Whipp 19:24, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
It's unfortunate is what it is. I say just let it go. People know how they act, and how others act. At this point, there is nothing to be done but put another diff on the page and that isn't going to solve anything apparently. I only knew about the tagging because of MisterHand, and since he realized, or at least assumed, it was another user trying to make a point (and so noted on another page) then it's there for others to see. If Angie doesn't learn anything from this, oh well. We can't make her learn anything, she has free will to do what she likes. Maybe someone will come along one day and help her out better than we, or anyone else has, so far in her Wiki-career. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 22:07, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
No one has contributed to this in a while, so I thought maybe the RFC was done with. Have we reached the desired outcome? Codelyoko193 Talk 13:32, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
I agree with the majority of what Deckiller has said, although I feel I should point out that yes, Angie has apologised to TTN now, however the dispute with the episodes remains. I think the RfC will definitely benefit Angie and other editors involved.
Very good constructive advice from Deckiller.
Seraphim Whipp 17:39, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
I am entering a calm phrase. I just want the whole debate to start over. Angie Y. 18:31, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
That's a good idea. That way, I won't be in trouble and something can be done within the debate. :) I really don't wanna be blocked from here and I hope this RfC will close soon. Angie Y. 19:28, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
Maybe if this episode guideline was further explained to me, maybe I'll understand and this RfC can be abolished. Angie Y. 22:22, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
I'm sorry Matthew, but I respectfully disagree with what you've said. All the evidence shows that Angie's behaviour is unacceptable. You say the diffs are unfair, but let me tell you, I went through every single one of Angie's contribs, and this is what I found; a history of incivility and unacceptable behaviour. Do you think that type of behvaiour should go unnoticed? I did not create this RfC to harass Angie; I created it because her behaviour is unacceptable.
Seraphim Whipp 10:18, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
Suprise! The editor formerly known as Alcemáe only sees incivility in others, but does not see his/her sarcastic belittling as adding to the problem. I suppose I will have to spend an inordinate amount of time providing the long list of incivility. I guess I'll get to it later. Ursasapien (talk) 11:29, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
I have notified everyone who may have been involved in the dispute. In the interests of fairness, if there's anyone I've missed, let 'em know.
Note: I am not canvassing (as some are eager to not assume good faith), I am purely letting everyone know.
Seraphim Whipp 17:32, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
Upon reading on the developments at this TfD, I noticed someone had made a comment regarding Angie's usuage of the template. Looking at her contribs shows she is behaving in a disruptive way. I'm extremely dissappointed and confused by this behaviour.
For fear that my behaviour appears as wiki-stalking (to people like Matthew), I will not ask Angie about this directly (despite wanting to know why), although I thought this needed mentioning.
I'm really am disappointed because I thought Angie was learning from this RfC.
Seraphim Whipp 19:24, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
It's unfortunate is what it is. I say just let it go. People know how they act, and how others act. At this point, there is nothing to be done but put another diff on the page and that isn't going to solve anything apparently. I only knew about the tagging because of MisterHand, and since he realized, or at least assumed, it was another user trying to make a point (and so noted on another page) then it's there for others to see. If Angie doesn't learn anything from this, oh well. We can't make her learn anything, she has free will to do what she likes. Maybe someone will come along one day and help her out better than we, or anyone else has, so far in her Wiki-career. BIGNOLE (Contact me) 22:07, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
No one has contributed to this in a while, so I thought maybe the RFC was done with. Have we reached the desired outcome? Codelyoko193 Talk 13:32, 2 August 2007 (UTC)