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I didn't see any good place to ask a question about something that wasn't already proposed, so I bring this to the talk page. If someone wants to move it to the main page, fine.
I use the "Related changes" link quite often as a quasi-watchlist; however, I often times quite frustratingly click on the "Recent changes" link instead. Since these two links look similar on a quick glance, can one of them be re-named for clarity? Unfortunately, I don't have a good idea off of the top of my head. Rgrds. -- Bison X ( talk) 23:58, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
As we start to approach the 30 day mark, the discussion is still active but is starting to slow. So this might be ready for a close in the not too distant future. I've had my eye on this to do a close and would welcome (as they say) another experienced editor to join me in assessing consensus. Otherwise for those who might be curious know that there is somebody ready to do a close at an appropriate time. Best, Barkeep49 ( talk) 21:11, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
Just noting that we're very close to a close on this. Best, Barkeep49 ( talk) 16:11, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
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Mediawiki:Sitesupport,
Mediawiki:Contactpage,
Mediawiki:Log,
Mediawiki:Tool-link-userrights,
Mediawiki:Mute-preferences,
MediaWiki:Interaction,
Mediawiki:Tooltip-n-randompage,
Mediawiki:Tooltip-n-sitesupport,
Mediawiki:Tooltip-n-aboutsite,
Mediawiki:Tooltip-n-recentchanges,
Mediawiki:Tooltip-t-upload,
Mediawiki:Tooltip-t-permalink,
Mediawiki:Tooltip-t-wikibase,
Mediawiki:Tooltip-t-log and
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Could an admin please make the following changes, to implement the results of the RFC?
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These changes should be done by an interface-admin:
** Wikipedia:File Upload Wizard|upload
This should be done at the same time as adding the related line to Mediawiki:Common.css, so that we don't have two upload links at the same time.#t-upload { display: none; }
This is to hide the existing Upload link, as a temporary measure until it can be removed by the devs.#n-shoplink { display: none; }
to remove the Wikipedia store link. (Also as a temporary measure until the devs are available.Some of the rest of the reordering, including the movement of "Cite this page" and the Tools items, will require a Phab task. -- Yair rand ( talk) 02:42, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
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Doing... — Martin (
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#t-upload { display: none; }
did not work as intended. Please adviseFirst of all, a huge thank you to Barkeep49 and DannyS712 for taking on the mammoth close, to everyone already getting to work on implementation above, and more generally to everyone for turning out and making this such a vibrant discussion.
Danny and Barkeep, for the items that require follow-up, I was wondering if you have any suggestions about where such a discussion should be held. I'm not sure how closely most people are still following this page (it has 40 watchers), so my instinct is to maybe host it at WP:Village pump (proposals), and then move it back here for historical archiving sake once it concludes. I'd be happy to help set that up, although we should probably wait a bit to allow a chance for any challenges to closes to be aired (I've created a subsection for that below).
Oh, and as a bit of tidying, would it be alright for me to change the colors of the closed sections to make it easier to tell at a glance which ones passed and which ones didn't? Best, {{u| Sdkb}} talk 05:59, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
This section is for discussion on or challenges to the closes made in the RFC. It should not be used to comment on the merits or lack thereof of any proposals, but rather on the consensus that was reached while the discussion was open.
Support per nominator, which would make the count 5-1-1. This appears to me as fairly clear consensus for Help:Introduction. Regarding the title, the renaming of the group from "Interaction" to "Contribute" makes the case for "Editing tutorial" over "Tutorial" a lot weaker, so I see consensus for "Tutorial", the name that received the vast majority of the support before I changed it late in the discussion. {{u| Sdkb}} talk 05:59, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
universal editor-focused links are consolidated [in the contribute section], while page-specific editor-focused links are consolidated in the "tools" section, so the many editors that expressed generic support could be seen as endorsing that framework, even if they didn't mention the special pages link specifically. And under that framework, there is no question that Special Pages is universal, not page-specific. Would it be alright to include the question of where to put this link in the follow-up discussion to make consensus clearer? {{u| Sdkb}} talk 05:59, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
Thank you to the closers! But I think the order of sections is not showing right at the moment.
Per Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/2020_left_sidebar_update#Move_"Print/export"_above_"Tools" the order should be: Print/Export, Tools, In other projetcs, Languages. I right now see: Tools, Languages, In other projects, Print/Export.
So print/export needs to be bumped up and languages/projects switched around. Or is this waiting for some software action? Renata ( talk) 00:22, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
Some of the rest of the reordering, including the movement of "Cite this page" and the Tools items, will require a Phab task. --Yair rand (talk) 02:42, 4 June 2020 (UTC)* Pppery * it has begun... 02:18, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at
Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Left sidebar update follow-up. {{u|
Sdkb}}
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I didn't see any good place to ask a question about something that wasn't already proposed, so I bring this to the talk page. If someone wants to move it to the main page, fine.
I use the "Related changes" link quite often as a quasi-watchlist; however, I often times quite frustratingly click on the "Recent changes" link instead. Since these two links look similar on a quick glance, can one of them be re-named for clarity? Unfortunately, I don't have a good idea off of the top of my head. Rgrds. -- Bison X ( talk) 23:58, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
As we start to approach the 30 day mark, the discussion is still active but is starting to slow. So this might be ready for a close in the not too distant future. I've had my eye on this to do a close and would welcome (as they say) another experienced editor to join me in assessing consensus. Otherwise for those who might be curious know that there is somebody ready to do a close at an appropriate time. Best, Barkeep49 ( talk) 21:11, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
Just noting that we're very close to a close on this. Best, Barkeep49 ( talk) 16:11, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
![]() | This
edit request to
Mediawiki:Sitesupport,
Mediawiki:Contactpage,
Mediawiki:Log,
Mediawiki:Tool-link-userrights,
Mediawiki:Mute-preferences,
MediaWiki:Interaction,
Mediawiki:Tooltip-n-randompage,
Mediawiki:Tooltip-n-sitesupport,
Mediawiki:Tooltip-n-aboutsite,
Mediawiki:Tooltip-n-recentchanges,
Mediawiki:Tooltip-t-upload,
Mediawiki:Tooltip-t-permalink,
Mediawiki:Tooltip-t-wikibase,
Mediawiki:Tooltip-t-log and
Mediawiki:Tooltip-t-mute has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
Could an admin please make the following changes, to implement the results of the RFC?
![]() | This
edit request to
Mediawiki:Sidebar and
Mediawiki:Common.css has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
These changes should be done by an interface-admin:
** Wikipedia:File Upload Wizard|upload
This should be done at the same time as adding the related line to Mediawiki:Common.css, so that we don't have two upload links at the same time.#t-upload { display: none; }
This is to hide the existing Upload link, as a temporary measure until it can be removed by the devs.#n-shoplink { display: none; }
to remove the Wikipedia store link. (Also as a temporary measure until the devs are available.Some of the rest of the reordering, including the movement of "Cite this page" and the Tools items, will require a Phab task. -- Yair rand ( talk) 02:42, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
{{
replyto|
Can I
Log In}}
's
talk page!
02:48, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
Doing... — Martin (
MSGJ ·
talk)
09:50, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
#t-upload { display: none; }
did not work as intended. Please adviseFirst of all, a huge thank you to Barkeep49 and DannyS712 for taking on the mammoth close, to everyone already getting to work on implementation above, and more generally to everyone for turning out and making this such a vibrant discussion.
Danny and Barkeep, for the items that require follow-up, I was wondering if you have any suggestions about where such a discussion should be held. I'm not sure how closely most people are still following this page (it has 40 watchers), so my instinct is to maybe host it at WP:Village pump (proposals), and then move it back here for historical archiving sake once it concludes. I'd be happy to help set that up, although we should probably wait a bit to allow a chance for any challenges to closes to be aired (I've created a subsection for that below).
Oh, and as a bit of tidying, would it be alright for me to change the colors of the closed sections to make it easier to tell at a glance which ones passed and which ones didn't? Best, {{u| Sdkb}} talk 05:59, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
This section is for discussion on or challenges to the closes made in the RFC. It should not be used to comment on the merits or lack thereof of any proposals, but rather on the consensus that was reached while the discussion was open.
Support per nominator, which would make the count 5-1-1. This appears to me as fairly clear consensus for Help:Introduction. Regarding the title, the renaming of the group from "Interaction" to "Contribute" makes the case for "Editing tutorial" over "Tutorial" a lot weaker, so I see consensus for "Tutorial", the name that received the vast majority of the support before I changed it late in the discussion. {{u| Sdkb}} talk 05:59, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
universal editor-focused links are consolidated [in the contribute section], while page-specific editor-focused links are consolidated in the "tools" section, so the many editors that expressed generic support could be seen as endorsing that framework, even if they didn't mention the special pages link specifically. And under that framework, there is no question that Special Pages is universal, not page-specific. Would it be alright to include the question of where to put this link in the follow-up discussion to make consensus clearer? {{u| Sdkb}} talk 05:59, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
Thank you to the closers! But I think the order of sections is not showing right at the moment.
Per Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/2020_left_sidebar_update#Move_"Print/export"_above_"Tools" the order should be: Print/Export, Tools, In other projetcs, Languages. I right now see: Tools, Languages, In other projects, Print/Export.
So print/export needs to be bumped up and languages/projects switched around. Or is this waiting for some software action? Renata ( talk) 00:22, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
Some of the rest of the reordering, including the movement of "Cite this page" and the Tools items, will require a Phab task. --Yair rand (talk) 02:42, 4 June 2020 (UTC)* Pppery * it has begun... 02:18, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at
Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Left sidebar update follow-up. {{u|
Sdkb}}
talk
07:04, 12 June 2020 (UTC)