This being the first time I have been involved in an action such as this, I am not sure how to proceed, what is the best way to "frame" my suggestions since they are not really motions but statements of principle? FWIW Bzuk 17:02, 26 October 2007 (UTC).
Just to say one thing, outside the main page: being considered 'wikipedia
HARMer, and proposed 1 year ban to me, well, i cannot resist but i must say it: I find this 'analysis' and this 'solution' immensely and shamelessy insulting. I know, who cares, but this is really touch the bottom. So go figure, what i must feel reading this stuff. And no words for the abuses made by other users and always justified by spelling, sources, pov, and whetever.
Another thing: these problems happened just with aviation project users (with wiki.it as well). I think that there must be a reason, and perhaps this has more to do with some 'aviation fans' than me. If not, there must be a reason why other sectors are far less debated.-- Stefanomencarelli 11:30, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
- It seems not perfectly true. You are now experiencing same issues with Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history here in the Talk:Otomat page. -- EH101 21:52, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
Just to put another point: why all the edits that criticizes someone that is not me, are swiftly reverted? It was happened a lot of times. Calling every time them as trolling. But is it true, or this is another 'building consensus' style (deleting selectively all the edits that criticizes others than me?). Strange, to say the least, while EH101 (that has actually no other task here in wiki.en, see his contributions) don't looses a single occasion to crying about my outlaw character...Yes, another sad day for wiki.en.-- Stefanomencarelli 10:51, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
- Stefano, remember your comments Here; this is another example of where an outside party is trying to incite you into over-reacting and again you are falling for it. This is a vicious spam attack by a sockpuppet of Wikzilla who has been banned from Wikipedia but wants to exact some form of retribution by going after individual editors including BillCJ, which is the entire reason behind his attacks here using you as a "stooge". You still don't understand that the people that are trying to help you are the people who have been patiently giving you advice while the people who have the worst of intentions for you and who are "playing" you, are the ones to which you show sympathy. FWIW Bzuk 11:55, 30 October 2007 (UTC).
This being the first time I have been involved in an action such as this, I am not sure how to proceed, what is the best way to "frame" my suggestions since they are not really motions but statements of principle? FWIW Bzuk 17:02, 26 October 2007 (UTC).
Just to say one thing, outside the main page: being considered 'wikipedia
HARMer, and proposed 1 year ban to me, well, i cannot resist but i must say it: I find this 'analysis' and this 'solution' immensely and shamelessy insulting. I know, who cares, but this is really touch the bottom. So go figure, what i must feel reading this stuff. And no words for the abuses made by other users and always justified by spelling, sources, pov, and whetever.
Another thing: these problems happened just with aviation project users (with wiki.it as well). I think that there must be a reason, and perhaps this has more to do with some 'aviation fans' than me. If not, there must be a reason why other sectors are far less debated.-- Stefanomencarelli 11:30, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
- It seems not perfectly true. You are now experiencing same issues with Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history here in the Talk:Otomat page. -- EH101 21:52, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
Just to put another point: why all the edits that criticizes someone that is not me, are swiftly reverted? It was happened a lot of times. Calling every time them as trolling. But is it true, or this is another 'building consensus' style (deleting selectively all the edits that criticizes others than me?). Strange, to say the least, while EH101 (that has actually no other task here in wiki.en, see his contributions) don't looses a single occasion to crying about my outlaw character...Yes, another sad day for wiki.en.-- Stefanomencarelli 10:51, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
- Stefano, remember your comments Here; this is another example of where an outside party is trying to incite you into over-reacting and again you are falling for it. This is a vicious spam attack by a sockpuppet of Wikzilla who has been banned from Wikipedia but wants to exact some form of retribution by going after individual editors including BillCJ, which is the entire reason behind his attacks here using you as a "stooge". You still don't understand that the people that are trying to help you are the people who have been patiently giving you advice while the people who have the worst of intentions for you and who are "playing" you, are the ones to which you show sympathy. FWIW Bzuk 11:55, 30 October 2007 (UTC).