Done as again, page was accumulating to 61kb. I moved the page this time, doing it the "right way", so no quibbles. I'll leave notes about anything that was ongoing so we don't drop the ball, and both archives have been logged above. Keep up the fab work, H ig hway Rainbow Sneakers 18:32, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
I reommend choosing Max as the next focus article. Thoughts? The Raven's Apprentice (Call) 11:25, 17 May 2006 (UTC) Other Mishaps? This article might need some help. Alvin6226 02:30, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
Even
Pokémon trainer needs a lot of work.
The Raven's Apprentice
(Call) 15:11, 16 June 2006 (UTC) The aforementioned article just needs some heavyhanded deletion.
The Raven's Apprentice
(Call)
11:43, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
Is there a bot that could remove all the unnecessary colour in this article?-- XenoN e on (converse) 19:00, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
Wow, that list...wow. Yeah, I've AFDed it, as we already have categories that cover this sort of thing. - A Man In Bl♟ck ( conspire | past ops) 23:03, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
I would gladly like to join this project; Pokemon is one of my main interests. I also have a few good ideas, so let me know if I can join up! Master Mew 20:59, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
When certain articles link to fansites, should we get rid off those links? I don't really know, just checking. Master Mew 23:33, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
They're important. Official sites such as Pokémon.com do not provide specific information as it is not to 'spoil' the game they created. If one is looking for specific information, he needs a fansite as sites like Pokémon.com don't provide certain information. XenoN e on (converse) 19:40, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
A new speedy deletion tag has been introduced, allowing all images without fair use rationales to be deleted speedily, as in without IfD. Since images can't be un-deleted, it would only take one user to wipe out nearly all of our images, so we need to tag them all. H ig hway Rainbow Sneakers 15:35, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
How to adding a Fair Use Rationale (FUR)
== Fair Use Rationale for Article that the Image Appears in ==
I, User:Example, believe this image should be categorized under fair use in the above mentioned article because -
Sign with 4 tildes.
All Pokémon images can be found at Category:Pokémon images.
Should we make a template for this? Something similar to the pokérefs, like {{pokeimage|Torchic|HighwayCello}}? Cheers, H ig hway Rainbow Sneakers 15:43, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
== Fair Use Rationale for Torchic ==
I, HighwayCello, believe this image should be categorized under fair use in the above mentioned article because -
Now, tag away. H ig hway Rainbow Sneakers 17:52, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
{{subst:Pokefair|Article}}
It suddenly has come to my attention that several, if not all, of the individual pages for Pokémon have been using the complicated Pokerefs template. I recently fixed the pages for Dragonair and Dragonite, but there is no way that a single person can fix all of these pages. The template is as follows:
{{subst:pokerefs|{{{1}}}|{{{2}}}|{{{3}}}|{{{4}}}}}
Where {{{1}}} is the first letter of the name of the Pokémon capitalized (eg: P for Pikachu), {{{2}}} is the first letter of the name in lower case (eg: p for Pikachu), {{{3}}} is the rest of the name in lower case (eg: ikachu for Pikachu), and {{{4}}} is the number in the National Pokédex (eg: 025 for Pikachu).
If one were to edit the Pikachu page to fix the template, it would look like such when editing the page:
{{subst:pokerefs|P|p|ikachu|025}}
As I said, this is more than one Wikipedian can do on his own, and I thought it was best to introduce this to the PCP community. Ryulong 19:48, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
Max's article makes the baby Jesus cry. Could someone who has watched more of the AG series (meaning: not me) please rewrite it to make it less of a trainwreck? - A Man In Bl♟ck ( conspire | past ops) 09:48, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
Should we make an EVs (Effort Values) guide? I myself am not experinced in this, but maybe someone is? Master Mew 21:45, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
They're extra stats that a Pokémon gains when battling other Pokémon, and are an important mechanic of the game; unconfirmed by Nintendo. I think we need to include them somewhere, like perhaps an article called 'Game mechanics of the Pokémon video games' or something-- XenoN e on (converse) 16:28, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
Wikipedia is emphatically not the place to describe the inner mechanics of the Pokémon games; any such guide would be a game guide of use only to those seeking instructuin, making it something Wikipedia is not. - A Man In Bl♟ck ( conspire | past ops) 04:08, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
A lot of people would like information on Ev's. I have just come into it myself and I believe that Wikipedia would benifit with such a page! Erupting Turtle
This is just getting ridiculous. I've dug up two free-for-use Pokémon-related images: Image:Pokeicon.gif and Image:Ana.b747.pokemon.arp.750pix.jpg. I suggest we put up the pokeicon on the portal permanently. But pictures or no pictures, the portal MUST continue. So HighwayCello, get back to work. Cheers, The Raven's Apprentice (Call) 07:44, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
A paragraph from May (Pokémon):
Does anyone mind if I delete this and state May is 11 years old now? I just thought I'd put this up, as May's Talk Page has recently taken to looking suspiciously similar to a Shipping Forum. Admin Celestianpower , you need to look over the Talk Page once and shut the stupid shippers up. Cheers, The Raven's Apprentice (Call) 10:56, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
List of Pokemon Terrorist Groups(!) and Your Rival need better titles, categories, and, eventually, some sort of rewrite or merge. - A Man In Bl♟ck ( conspire | past ops) 04:11, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
Your Rival has been duplicated as Rival(Pokemon). - A Man In Bl♟ck ( conspire | past ops) 23:53, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
This may be slightly off-topic, but there is no Viridian City article. As far as I know, Celadon City has one. There is also a need for a Viridian (disambiguation). Could someone tackle that? - Tracker 04:16, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
Edit: There is an article, it just needs to be linked from Viridian. - Tracker 04:18, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
A paragraph from
Ash Ketchum:
"Ash's current age is debatable. Things that characters say in from the show and even a promo have led the majority fans to believe that Ash is currently 15 years of age in the U.S.; 16 years of age in Japan. But, in Eruope he is believed to be 17 years of age and 18 years of age in Canada."
Despite the flames I received, any amateur can see this doesn't make sense. Even if you would say Ash was 15 in the U.S.A. and 16 in Japan (which there is absolutely zero proof to either of those claims), the U.S. and Canada dub is the same, meaning Ash would be the same age in those two countries at least.
Then as for May, every 5 minutes it gets edited to nonsense like:
"May says she's 10. Ash, on the other hand, would probably be around 15 or 16 years of age. Therefore, it's evident that Ash and May may not be the same age. However, May might have missaid her own age, probably because she was thinking of her little brother, Max, who would get his Pokémon licence at that age. But this is yet to be clarified, since May should have gotten her Pokémon long ago if she's the same age as Ash."
But supposedly "That was NOT vandalism" and "your deductions are [not] needed in an encyclopedic article AT ALL."
Brock0820
23:22, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
Why bother mentioning specific ages at all? There are conflicting sources (none of which are the primary source), the ages never come up but in a general way (e.g. Ash is clearly a youth, Brock is clearly an adult, etc.), and it's going to be a never-ending edit war to include them.
How do the articles benefit from including this trivia? - A Man In Bl♟ck ( conspire | past ops) 20:52, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
Just a friendly reminder people. Please do not use articles from Bulbagarden's Bulbapedia as the basis for your articles. I'm sad to say that we've recently caught someone lifting our episode pages (and possibly others, we're going to have to go through their edit history in detail), and I've had reports it has happened on other occasions as well with other pages/users. We've managed to not step on each others toes up until now, and I'd like to keep it that way, so it'd be appreciated if you could all just be that extra little bit careful, and check each other's work, just to make sure we don't get any further situations like this. Likewise, if you've heard any reports of Wikipedia articles being copied onto Bulbapedia, please inform either myself, Zhen Lin or evkl, and we'll correct the offending page as soon as possible. -- Archaic, Bulbagarden.net Webmaster, a.k.a. Mukashi 16:43, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
I don't go to Pokemon.com too often, but this article needs cleanup. It needs MUCH more content. Should I just AFD it? I would, but, I don't wanna do something wrong. So, any input? Master Mew 00:41, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
Just to let you all know, I removed the link to Wikibooks from the Pokémon infobox. I left a note on the templates talk page. Gerard Foley 09:42, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
Well, the Wikibooks Pokédex has already been deleted, go and see for your self! b:Wikibooks Pokédex The other video game guides will be gone soon; a lot all ready are! Gerard Foley 21:16, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
I thought game-related content from Wikibooks was being moved to StrategyWiki? Why did the Pokédex go to WikiKnowledge instead?
The Pokémon character articles suck. Would you like to help improve them? - A Man In Bl♟ck ( conspire | past ops) 01:39, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
Now that I've got it properly started...
All members of this project are invited to join Pokémon Adoption Center 2, a new subproject devoted to cleaning up the various articles on the Pokémon character articles. The sorry state of many of these articles reflects poorly on this project, and I hoped a subproject devoted to cleanup and improvement of Pokémon articles might help in this respect.
If you're interested, take a look at WP:PAC2 and add a new header with your username to the Participants section. - A Man In Bl♟ck ( conspire | past ops) 03:35, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
Now that the Pokédex has moved to my wiki, it looks like it's under my care (until others start signing up to help), but I just want to know what all the "Base Stats", "Max Stats" and "Effort Points" table is all about. What does it all mean? Gerard Foley 12:41, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
A little, where did all this information come from in the first place? Gerard Foley 13:10, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
I noticed User:Alvin6226 was uploading lots of images from one site (all the wonderful TCG pics we have, thanks Alvin) so I started to write the pages with a decent summary and fair use rationales. After about 4 in I noticed that the only thing changed in the text I was writing was the name of the character in the pic. By figuring this out, I've created this template, which produces all the writing for the TCG images to be decent.
All you have to do is edit the page, wipe it blank, add {{subst:ptcg|''article name''}} (replacing the ital with the name of the character) and save. Voila, you get a fully completed page. Cheers, H ig hway Rainbow Sneakers 17:38, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
I have a new proposal for the Pokémon Collaborative Project, in regard to references, FAC and GAs. The aim of this proposal, if voted into use, is to increase the effort of the PCP community to help one another, as well as to increase the quality of the article we as a project we produce.
The proposal would introduce 2 new features to the PCP, an area where new Pokémon editors could ask for help about referencing, like the ins-and-outs, as well formatting and choosing reliable sources. Other editors who are unsure of this can also leave a note of articles that are textually solid, but require referencing. This could help the future set of Pokémon editors learn new techniques, not just for Pokémon articles, but all. Another outcome of this is that more articles can be nominated for FA and GA, since there are many articles that could pass GA now if they had the references, which aren't particularly hard to find. (Examples of these articles include Squirtle, Clefairy and Sudowoodo).
My second part of the proposal is to set up a group of editors familiar with the FAC process who could brush up on potential articles for FAC, and also nominate the articles on behalf of the PCP, allowing candidacies to focus on the article, rather than the candidate. This group would also help answer questions in the FACs, explaining and expanding on the points and questions of other editors. They could also look at objections of failed FACs, and turn these articles into FAs. The benefits of this proposal are that FACs get the group attention they deserve, and reviewers are forced to review, rather than judge on who nominated the article.
If there isn't any major hissing and booing to either of these proposals, I'll start up a poll, or would it just be better with discussed consensus? The ideas mainly came to me today when I saw the Clefairy article, which I am in the process of referencing, and I thought, "Someone's put a tonne of work into this, if they had known what to do, everyone would have known about it." The second proposal is something I've theorizing for a while, partly because whenever an FAC is nominated, it doesn't feel like any member of the PCP is there for support, partly to help culminate more FAs, and partly because, I'm sorry to say, I feel that the Torchic FAC has turned into nothing more than a mockery of the FAC system, and that I myself will never be able to pass the article to FA standard because of who I am in the community. Thank you for reading and regards, H ig hway Rainbow Sneakers 20:27, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
I've noticed that there are some images that either need deleted or updated with the new versions. Anyway,
Cheers, H ig hway Rainbow Sneakers 12:30, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
One day it's bright pink, the next day it's bright red, and no mention on the Talk Page? Whoa. By the way, can whoever did that even change the color of the {{ pokeinfobox}} and the {{ Pokémoncharacterinfobox}} ?? The Raven's Apprentice (Call) 06:28, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
The pink layout's getting old, plus, its too female. If you think it should be changed, lets hold a vote.
'Change means you should change it. Keep means leave it the way it is.
The voting system can be held at Wikipedia talk:Pokémon_Collaborative_Project#Portal Layout I Love Minun 15:51, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
The pink layouts getting old, it should be changed, write your comments below.
Chnage means change Keep means to keep the old layout. I Love Minun 15:54, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
There is a discussion going on for the caption on the below image
The discussion is at Talk:Minun#Discuss Image caption, please write your comments on what you think would be a good caption, more details are mentioned on that page. Thanks, I Love Minun (talk) 18:36, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
I need help, im putting up {{ PCP}} and {{ talkheader}} to the talk page of every signle Pokémon article, but it will take a long time unless I get help from others, so please help, thanks. For quickness, create a user subpage and type:
{{PCP}} {{talkheader}}
substed it onto the talk pages (It must be substeded)
I Love Minun (talk) 19:59, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
Lucario toy I went to fast, and now it's giving me issues. Can someone help? Starmenclock 21:11, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
Hello everyone. I have been working on Mudkip for a week or so now, and would like to know how I've done so far. Any comments?-- A c1983fan ( talk • contribs) 19:35, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
Please empty the johtonumber, johtoproceeding, and johtofollowing parameters for {{ Pokeinfobox}} for Pokémon with Johto numbers greater than 251, as any higher numbers are fanon extrapolation. Likewise, please do the same with the hoenn* parameters for Pokémon with Hoenn numbers higher than 202, as these numbers are also fanon extrapolation. - A Man In Bl♟ck ( conspire | past ops) 22:14, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
Thank you muchly. - A Man In Bl♟ck ( conspire | past ops) 18:25, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
I just modified and expanded the Pokémon Dash! article. Tell me if it needs anything more.
PS: I need the Multiplayer only courses. Starmenclock 23:47, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
What's the deal with all of the seiyū pages suddenly being part of the PCP? I could understand if they did Pokemon voice overs almost exclusively, most of these only do Pokemon as a very tiny part of their overall work. That hardly qualifies them to be part of PCP. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihon jo e 01:39, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
Some weirdo vandalized the Portal. Can someone fix that asap??? The Raven's Apprentice (Call) 08:00, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
I'm trying to mediate, not fight. Could you point out any ILM hatred there? H ig hway Rainbow Sneakers 15:50, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
Team Rocket (anime) is needing cleanup, please help by cleaning it up.
I Love Minun (talk) 14:51, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
I had a question on the Raikou article that I put on the talk page long ago, and it's still unanswered. Would someone here be so kind as to research it for my own personal curiousity? Thanks! Niki Whimbrel 18:32, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
I added a paragraph about Skarmblissing in Skarmory's entry, considering that Skarmory and Blissey are commonly seen together was this worth noting?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Alakazam9891 ( talk • contribs) .
Edit: Just noticed that the Blissey page has a section on it, I'll copy and paste it over and edit it accordingly to Skarmory. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Alakazam9891 ( talk • contribs) .
just thought I'd let you guys know... The selected pokemon of the week hasn't been updated in a month. I would update it myself, but I'm not sure to use one of the ones listed in the June section or add the one that was supposed to come after squirtle.-- A c1983fan ( talk • contribs) 18:53, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
Now people, was that so hard? H ig hway Rainbow Sneakers 15:48, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_by_name Is that ok? Maybe not in the by-number list, since we dont know their numbers, but definately by name. Toastypk 01:29, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
Hey everyone. I think the mudkip article is almost a good article, but with one problem-the "In the Anime" section. I don't watch the anime, so could someone who does expand that for me? A c1983fan ( talk • contribs) 14:01, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
User:N. Harmonik has requested Image:Pikachu plastic toy.JPG for speedy deletion. I disagree with this deletion, so please write comments below. They say that its copyright vialation, but it seems more like the Bulbasaur Toy image. Thanks, I Love Minun (talk) 15:47, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
Having talked to experienced commons members on the IRC channel, I have removed the speedy tag. "It's legal, or at least acceptable, until someone complains" (German copyright law). I've added artistic interpretation to it, so the copyright lies with me. — Cel es tianpower háblame 21:09, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
You can now award certificates to other users using
{{subst:Certificate|Username|Reason}}
I Love Minun (talk) 19:52, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
Hey, I was browsing the spriting article, and it links to a Pokemon fansite, called the Cave of Dragonflies. It is not based on Spriting, and I don't think that it is appropriate for that article. Thouh it does refer to Butterfree, the owner of the site, as a very good Pokemon spriter, it looks to me as if it was someone from PMF (Pokemo Mutation Factory). -- 207.255.19.93 19:30, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
I've created a open tasks page for any miscellaneous tasks to be posted for editors to do. Full link here. Harmonious editting, H ig hway Rainbow Sneakers 19:48, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
If anyone knows of any good Pokémon articles that we could display on the portal? By good I mean not stub, and by good I mean not how many attacks it can learn from the Emerald Battle Frontier tutor. If you have any suggestions (new ones please, I know we should celebrate our accomplishments, but Squirtle, Torchic and Bulbasaur have all been on since I've done it, give the starters a rest?) please leave them here, or below. Regards, H ig hway Rainbow Sneakers 17:55, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
I found this and just laughed, I specifically liked the "I can't remember which" bit. ;) Has anyone came across similar stuff? H ig hway Rainbow Sneakers 21:51, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
Please leave the
WP:CVG banner on the talk pages. They automatically classify an article for the
Wikipedia 1.0 project. If you could put {{cvgproj|class=|importance=}}
back on any pages that they have been removed from, that would be appreciated.
Dread Lord CyberSkull
✎☠
07:11, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
In regards to Template:Pokeinfobox, does anyone prefer the older version? I agree with removing some of the fannish sections, but I preferred the older design. Thoughts? H ig hway Rainbow Sneakers 21:36, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
Question: Why do the Kanto Gym Leaders all get their own page, while the Johto and Hoenn ones get a "list of" page? I don't mind the lsit of pages, but I woudl like to see some consistency. Hbdragon88 01:50, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
Please keep an eye on Pokémon and Pokémon (anime). CoolKatt number 99999 is trying to reinsert the godawful and wholly unencyclopedic trivia from the recently-deleted Cultural references in Pokémon into each article, often without placing them in context or giving any source (other than links to the top pages of Serebii, Bulbagarden, or TV.com). - A Man In Bl♟ck ( conspire | past ops) 05:54, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
In the parts of an article where it talks about a particular characters Pokémon, the images and text are all muddled up, I think we should fix that be placing it all in tables, like this
{| | ==== Pokémon Name ==== |} {| | ==== Another Pokémon ==== |}
because theres like an image, with half of text of the Pokémon thats in the image, and half of a different Pokémon, there should be like a line of images, and a line of text. I would also recommend the images are at the same side, because it still looks wierd if there not. Poke Master ( Talk • Contribs) 15:52, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
We need an image of Kyo, one of Janine and one of Blue for List of Kanto Gym Leaders Poke Master ( Talk • Contribs) 19:46, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
I think we should expand the anime and manga section as we pass Pokémon articles. I mean like for episodes where the Pokémon the article is talking about is the main Pokémon, we should expand it to tell everyone what happened in the episode, write your comments below. Poke Master ( Talk • Contribs) 15:14, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
I'd like to help get an article to featured status, but I don't know which article to work on, if you have any ideas, please let me know Poke Master ( Talk • Contribs) 15:50, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
The article Pokémon is now a featured article candidate, and may become a featured article. Please vote at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Pokémon. I hope that the vote goes well, and the article will succeed. Poke Master ( Talk • Contribs) 19:11, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
I've created a new template for manga characters. Feel free to modify it and improve it. Poke Master ( Talk • Contribs) 19:46, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
I’ll mention this here also, as it already has a distressing number of delete votes. List of Pokémon attacks is on AfD. See the discussion here. -- WikidSmaht ( talk) 02:51, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
Someone removed the thumbnails. Do you think we should have thumbnails, or just links to the image? Poke Master ( Talk • Contribs) 11:50, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
I started an new article, but the section about Tyson's Pokémon needs to be Wikified, any volunteers. Also, someone should start an article on Morrison (Pokémon) Poke Master ( Talk • Contribs) 15:27, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
I've tagged it as copyvio, since only two paragraphs of it weren't copyied from bulbapedia. Even the infobox was copied!-- A c1983fan ( talk • contribs) 23:53, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
I have summarily deleted the infobox and all of its subboxes as copyvio. Don't do this again. - A Man In Bl♟ck ( conspire | past ops) 00:54, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
Hey guys. I was going to tag this article with {{ prod}}, but decided I'd better see If others agree with me. So, anyone agree?-- A c1983fan ( talk • contribs) 17:19, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
I think we should create articles about Pokémon episodes, because List_of_Pokémon_episodes links to articles about individual Pokémon episodes. The articles seems to be abandones, so we should help create them. COmments will be appreciated, thanks -- Pokesaur 15:45, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
No, no, no, no, NO! Episode guides are non-encyclopedaic, trivial and worthless. While Wiki is not paper, they waste disk space and slow the servers. It's unnecessary and futile. Please, please don't create these articles. Thanks! — Cel es tianpower háblame 19:39, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
I am deleting, as blatant copyvio, any episode pages that are blatantly copied from Bulbapedia. This has gone on long enough, and Bulbapedia has asked us to remove them, repeatedly. - A Man In Bl♟ck ( conspire | past ops) 01:00, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
I know We're only supposed to talk about wikipedia-related stuff here, but I just had put this somewhere. So anyways, I was fishing for carvahna with my good rod, and a gold magikarp showed up. I ended up KO'ing it though. Anybody else have an experience where they Ko'ed a shiny?-- A c1983fan ( talk • contribs) 22:12, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
The list of members on the front page is getting REALLY long, so let's weed it a little. It's time for a roll call. If you're still interested in working on this project's articles (even if you're not doing so right now; I'm just removing people who aren't active on WP or aren't interested any more), please sign below.
# ~~~~
Done as again, page was accumulating to 61kb. I moved the page this time, doing it the "right way", so no quibbles. I'll leave notes about anything that was ongoing so we don't drop the ball, and both archives have been logged above. Keep up the fab work, H ig hway Rainbow Sneakers 18:32, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
I reommend choosing Max as the next focus article. Thoughts? The Raven's Apprentice (Call) 11:25, 17 May 2006 (UTC) Other Mishaps? This article might need some help. Alvin6226 02:30, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
Even
Pokémon trainer needs a lot of work.
The Raven's Apprentice
(Call) 15:11, 16 June 2006 (UTC) The aforementioned article just needs some heavyhanded deletion.
The Raven's Apprentice
(Call)
11:43, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
Is there a bot that could remove all the unnecessary colour in this article?-- XenoN e on (converse) 19:00, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
Wow, that list...wow. Yeah, I've AFDed it, as we already have categories that cover this sort of thing. - A Man In Bl♟ck ( conspire | past ops) 23:03, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
I would gladly like to join this project; Pokemon is one of my main interests. I also have a few good ideas, so let me know if I can join up! Master Mew 20:59, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
When certain articles link to fansites, should we get rid off those links? I don't really know, just checking. Master Mew 23:33, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
They're important. Official sites such as Pokémon.com do not provide specific information as it is not to 'spoil' the game they created. If one is looking for specific information, he needs a fansite as sites like Pokémon.com don't provide certain information. XenoN e on (converse) 19:40, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
A new speedy deletion tag has been introduced, allowing all images without fair use rationales to be deleted speedily, as in without IfD. Since images can't be un-deleted, it would only take one user to wipe out nearly all of our images, so we need to tag them all. H ig hway Rainbow Sneakers 15:35, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
How to adding a Fair Use Rationale (FUR)
== Fair Use Rationale for Article that the Image Appears in ==
I, User:Example, believe this image should be categorized under fair use in the above mentioned article because -
Sign with 4 tildes.
All Pokémon images can be found at Category:Pokémon images.
Should we make a template for this? Something similar to the pokérefs, like {{pokeimage|Torchic|HighwayCello}}? Cheers, H ig hway Rainbow Sneakers 15:43, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
== Fair Use Rationale for Torchic ==
I, HighwayCello, believe this image should be categorized under fair use in the above mentioned article because -
Now, tag away. H ig hway Rainbow Sneakers 17:52, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
{{subst:Pokefair|Article}}
It suddenly has come to my attention that several, if not all, of the individual pages for Pokémon have been using the complicated Pokerefs template. I recently fixed the pages for Dragonair and Dragonite, but there is no way that a single person can fix all of these pages. The template is as follows:
{{subst:pokerefs|{{{1}}}|{{{2}}}|{{{3}}}|{{{4}}}}}
Where {{{1}}} is the first letter of the name of the Pokémon capitalized (eg: P for Pikachu), {{{2}}} is the first letter of the name in lower case (eg: p for Pikachu), {{{3}}} is the rest of the name in lower case (eg: ikachu for Pikachu), and {{{4}}} is the number in the National Pokédex (eg: 025 for Pikachu).
If one were to edit the Pikachu page to fix the template, it would look like such when editing the page:
{{subst:pokerefs|P|p|ikachu|025}}
As I said, this is more than one Wikipedian can do on his own, and I thought it was best to introduce this to the PCP community. Ryulong 19:48, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
Max's article makes the baby Jesus cry. Could someone who has watched more of the AG series (meaning: not me) please rewrite it to make it less of a trainwreck? - A Man In Bl♟ck ( conspire | past ops) 09:48, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
Should we make an EVs (Effort Values) guide? I myself am not experinced in this, but maybe someone is? Master Mew 21:45, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
They're extra stats that a Pokémon gains when battling other Pokémon, and are an important mechanic of the game; unconfirmed by Nintendo. I think we need to include them somewhere, like perhaps an article called 'Game mechanics of the Pokémon video games' or something-- XenoN e on (converse) 16:28, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
Wikipedia is emphatically not the place to describe the inner mechanics of the Pokémon games; any such guide would be a game guide of use only to those seeking instructuin, making it something Wikipedia is not. - A Man In Bl♟ck ( conspire | past ops) 04:08, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
A lot of people would like information on Ev's. I have just come into it myself and I believe that Wikipedia would benifit with such a page! Erupting Turtle
This is just getting ridiculous. I've dug up two free-for-use Pokémon-related images: Image:Pokeicon.gif and Image:Ana.b747.pokemon.arp.750pix.jpg. I suggest we put up the pokeicon on the portal permanently. But pictures or no pictures, the portal MUST continue. So HighwayCello, get back to work. Cheers, The Raven's Apprentice (Call) 07:44, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
A paragraph from May (Pokémon):
Does anyone mind if I delete this and state May is 11 years old now? I just thought I'd put this up, as May's Talk Page has recently taken to looking suspiciously similar to a Shipping Forum. Admin Celestianpower , you need to look over the Talk Page once and shut the stupid shippers up. Cheers, The Raven's Apprentice (Call) 10:56, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
List of Pokemon Terrorist Groups(!) and Your Rival need better titles, categories, and, eventually, some sort of rewrite or merge. - A Man In Bl♟ck ( conspire | past ops) 04:11, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
Your Rival has been duplicated as Rival(Pokemon). - A Man In Bl♟ck ( conspire | past ops) 23:53, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
This may be slightly off-topic, but there is no Viridian City article. As far as I know, Celadon City has one. There is also a need for a Viridian (disambiguation). Could someone tackle that? - Tracker 04:16, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
Edit: There is an article, it just needs to be linked from Viridian. - Tracker 04:18, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
A paragraph from
Ash Ketchum:
"Ash's current age is debatable. Things that characters say in from the show and even a promo have led the majority fans to believe that Ash is currently 15 years of age in the U.S.; 16 years of age in Japan. But, in Eruope he is believed to be 17 years of age and 18 years of age in Canada."
Despite the flames I received, any amateur can see this doesn't make sense. Even if you would say Ash was 15 in the U.S.A. and 16 in Japan (which there is absolutely zero proof to either of those claims), the U.S. and Canada dub is the same, meaning Ash would be the same age in those two countries at least.
Then as for May, every 5 minutes it gets edited to nonsense like:
"May says she's 10. Ash, on the other hand, would probably be around 15 or 16 years of age. Therefore, it's evident that Ash and May may not be the same age. However, May might have missaid her own age, probably because she was thinking of her little brother, Max, who would get his Pokémon licence at that age. But this is yet to be clarified, since May should have gotten her Pokémon long ago if she's the same age as Ash."
But supposedly "That was NOT vandalism" and "your deductions are [not] needed in an encyclopedic article AT ALL."
Brock0820
23:22, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
Why bother mentioning specific ages at all? There are conflicting sources (none of which are the primary source), the ages never come up but in a general way (e.g. Ash is clearly a youth, Brock is clearly an adult, etc.), and it's going to be a never-ending edit war to include them.
How do the articles benefit from including this trivia? - A Man In Bl♟ck ( conspire | past ops) 20:52, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
Just a friendly reminder people. Please do not use articles from Bulbagarden's Bulbapedia as the basis for your articles. I'm sad to say that we've recently caught someone lifting our episode pages (and possibly others, we're going to have to go through their edit history in detail), and I've had reports it has happened on other occasions as well with other pages/users. We've managed to not step on each others toes up until now, and I'd like to keep it that way, so it'd be appreciated if you could all just be that extra little bit careful, and check each other's work, just to make sure we don't get any further situations like this. Likewise, if you've heard any reports of Wikipedia articles being copied onto Bulbapedia, please inform either myself, Zhen Lin or evkl, and we'll correct the offending page as soon as possible. -- Archaic, Bulbagarden.net Webmaster, a.k.a. Mukashi 16:43, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
I don't go to Pokemon.com too often, but this article needs cleanup. It needs MUCH more content. Should I just AFD it? I would, but, I don't wanna do something wrong. So, any input? Master Mew 00:41, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
Just to let you all know, I removed the link to Wikibooks from the Pokémon infobox. I left a note on the templates talk page. Gerard Foley 09:42, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
Well, the Wikibooks Pokédex has already been deleted, go and see for your self! b:Wikibooks Pokédex The other video game guides will be gone soon; a lot all ready are! Gerard Foley 21:16, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
I thought game-related content from Wikibooks was being moved to StrategyWiki? Why did the Pokédex go to WikiKnowledge instead?
The Pokémon character articles suck. Would you like to help improve them? - A Man In Bl♟ck ( conspire | past ops) 01:39, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
Now that I've got it properly started...
All members of this project are invited to join Pokémon Adoption Center 2, a new subproject devoted to cleaning up the various articles on the Pokémon character articles. The sorry state of many of these articles reflects poorly on this project, and I hoped a subproject devoted to cleanup and improvement of Pokémon articles might help in this respect.
If you're interested, take a look at WP:PAC2 and add a new header with your username to the Participants section. - A Man In Bl♟ck ( conspire | past ops) 03:35, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
Now that the Pokédex has moved to my wiki, it looks like it's under my care (until others start signing up to help), but I just want to know what all the "Base Stats", "Max Stats" and "Effort Points" table is all about. What does it all mean? Gerard Foley 12:41, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
A little, where did all this information come from in the first place? Gerard Foley 13:10, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
I noticed User:Alvin6226 was uploading lots of images from one site (all the wonderful TCG pics we have, thanks Alvin) so I started to write the pages with a decent summary and fair use rationales. After about 4 in I noticed that the only thing changed in the text I was writing was the name of the character in the pic. By figuring this out, I've created this template, which produces all the writing for the TCG images to be decent.
All you have to do is edit the page, wipe it blank, add {{subst:ptcg|''article name''}} (replacing the ital with the name of the character) and save. Voila, you get a fully completed page. Cheers, H ig hway Rainbow Sneakers 17:38, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
I have a new proposal for the Pokémon Collaborative Project, in regard to references, FAC and GAs. The aim of this proposal, if voted into use, is to increase the effort of the PCP community to help one another, as well as to increase the quality of the article we as a project we produce.
The proposal would introduce 2 new features to the PCP, an area where new Pokémon editors could ask for help about referencing, like the ins-and-outs, as well formatting and choosing reliable sources. Other editors who are unsure of this can also leave a note of articles that are textually solid, but require referencing. This could help the future set of Pokémon editors learn new techniques, not just for Pokémon articles, but all. Another outcome of this is that more articles can be nominated for FA and GA, since there are many articles that could pass GA now if they had the references, which aren't particularly hard to find. (Examples of these articles include Squirtle, Clefairy and Sudowoodo).
My second part of the proposal is to set up a group of editors familiar with the FAC process who could brush up on potential articles for FAC, and also nominate the articles on behalf of the PCP, allowing candidacies to focus on the article, rather than the candidate. This group would also help answer questions in the FACs, explaining and expanding on the points and questions of other editors. They could also look at objections of failed FACs, and turn these articles into FAs. The benefits of this proposal are that FACs get the group attention they deserve, and reviewers are forced to review, rather than judge on who nominated the article.
If there isn't any major hissing and booing to either of these proposals, I'll start up a poll, or would it just be better with discussed consensus? The ideas mainly came to me today when I saw the Clefairy article, which I am in the process of referencing, and I thought, "Someone's put a tonne of work into this, if they had known what to do, everyone would have known about it." The second proposal is something I've theorizing for a while, partly because whenever an FAC is nominated, it doesn't feel like any member of the PCP is there for support, partly to help culminate more FAs, and partly because, I'm sorry to say, I feel that the Torchic FAC has turned into nothing more than a mockery of the FAC system, and that I myself will never be able to pass the article to FA standard because of who I am in the community. Thank you for reading and regards, H ig hway Rainbow Sneakers 20:27, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
I've noticed that there are some images that either need deleted or updated with the new versions. Anyway,
Cheers, H ig hway Rainbow Sneakers 12:30, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
One day it's bright pink, the next day it's bright red, and no mention on the Talk Page? Whoa. By the way, can whoever did that even change the color of the {{ pokeinfobox}} and the {{ Pokémoncharacterinfobox}} ?? The Raven's Apprentice (Call) 06:28, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
The pink layout's getting old, plus, its too female. If you think it should be changed, lets hold a vote.
'Change means you should change it. Keep means leave it the way it is.
The voting system can be held at Wikipedia talk:Pokémon_Collaborative_Project#Portal Layout I Love Minun 15:51, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
The pink layouts getting old, it should be changed, write your comments below.
Chnage means change Keep means to keep the old layout. I Love Minun 15:54, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
There is a discussion going on for the caption on the below image
The discussion is at Talk:Minun#Discuss Image caption, please write your comments on what you think would be a good caption, more details are mentioned on that page. Thanks, I Love Minun (talk) 18:36, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
I need help, im putting up {{ PCP}} and {{ talkheader}} to the talk page of every signle Pokémon article, but it will take a long time unless I get help from others, so please help, thanks. For quickness, create a user subpage and type:
{{PCP}} {{talkheader}}
substed it onto the talk pages (It must be substeded)
I Love Minun (talk) 19:59, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
Lucario toy I went to fast, and now it's giving me issues. Can someone help? Starmenclock 21:11, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
Hello everyone. I have been working on Mudkip for a week or so now, and would like to know how I've done so far. Any comments?-- A c1983fan ( talk • contribs) 19:35, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
Please empty the johtonumber, johtoproceeding, and johtofollowing parameters for {{ Pokeinfobox}} for Pokémon with Johto numbers greater than 251, as any higher numbers are fanon extrapolation. Likewise, please do the same with the hoenn* parameters for Pokémon with Hoenn numbers higher than 202, as these numbers are also fanon extrapolation. - A Man In Bl♟ck ( conspire | past ops) 22:14, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
Thank you muchly. - A Man In Bl♟ck ( conspire | past ops) 18:25, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
I just modified and expanded the Pokémon Dash! article. Tell me if it needs anything more.
PS: I need the Multiplayer only courses. Starmenclock 23:47, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
What's the deal with all of the seiyū pages suddenly being part of the PCP? I could understand if they did Pokemon voice overs almost exclusively, most of these only do Pokemon as a very tiny part of their overall work. That hardly qualifies them to be part of PCP. ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihon jo e 01:39, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
Some weirdo vandalized the Portal. Can someone fix that asap??? The Raven's Apprentice (Call) 08:00, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
I'm trying to mediate, not fight. Could you point out any ILM hatred there? H ig hway Rainbow Sneakers 15:50, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
Team Rocket (anime) is needing cleanup, please help by cleaning it up.
I Love Minun (talk) 14:51, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
I had a question on the Raikou article that I put on the talk page long ago, and it's still unanswered. Would someone here be so kind as to research it for my own personal curiousity? Thanks! Niki Whimbrel 18:32, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
I added a paragraph about Skarmblissing in Skarmory's entry, considering that Skarmory and Blissey are commonly seen together was this worth noting?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Alakazam9891 ( talk • contribs) .
Edit: Just noticed that the Blissey page has a section on it, I'll copy and paste it over and edit it accordingly to Skarmory. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Alakazam9891 ( talk • contribs) .
just thought I'd let you guys know... The selected pokemon of the week hasn't been updated in a month. I would update it myself, but I'm not sure to use one of the ones listed in the June section or add the one that was supposed to come after squirtle.-- A c1983fan ( talk • contribs) 18:53, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
Now people, was that so hard? H ig hway Rainbow Sneakers 15:48, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Pok%C3%A9mon_by_name Is that ok? Maybe not in the by-number list, since we dont know their numbers, but definately by name. Toastypk 01:29, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
Hey everyone. I think the mudkip article is almost a good article, but with one problem-the "In the Anime" section. I don't watch the anime, so could someone who does expand that for me? A c1983fan ( talk • contribs) 14:01, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
User:N. Harmonik has requested Image:Pikachu plastic toy.JPG for speedy deletion. I disagree with this deletion, so please write comments below. They say that its copyright vialation, but it seems more like the Bulbasaur Toy image. Thanks, I Love Minun (talk) 15:47, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
Having talked to experienced commons members on the IRC channel, I have removed the speedy tag. "It's legal, or at least acceptable, until someone complains" (German copyright law). I've added artistic interpretation to it, so the copyright lies with me. — Cel es tianpower háblame 21:09, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
You can now award certificates to other users using
{{subst:Certificate|Username|Reason}}
I Love Minun (talk) 19:52, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
Hey, I was browsing the spriting article, and it links to a Pokemon fansite, called the Cave of Dragonflies. It is not based on Spriting, and I don't think that it is appropriate for that article. Thouh it does refer to Butterfree, the owner of the site, as a very good Pokemon spriter, it looks to me as if it was someone from PMF (Pokemo Mutation Factory). -- 207.255.19.93 19:30, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
I've created a open tasks page for any miscellaneous tasks to be posted for editors to do. Full link here. Harmonious editting, H ig hway Rainbow Sneakers 19:48, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
If anyone knows of any good Pokémon articles that we could display on the portal? By good I mean not stub, and by good I mean not how many attacks it can learn from the Emerald Battle Frontier tutor. If you have any suggestions (new ones please, I know we should celebrate our accomplishments, but Squirtle, Torchic and Bulbasaur have all been on since I've done it, give the starters a rest?) please leave them here, or below. Regards, H ig hway Rainbow Sneakers 17:55, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
I found this and just laughed, I specifically liked the "I can't remember which" bit. ;) Has anyone came across similar stuff? H ig hway Rainbow Sneakers 21:51, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
Please leave the
WP:CVG banner on the talk pages. They automatically classify an article for the
Wikipedia 1.0 project. If you could put {{cvgproj|class=|importance=}}
back on any pages that they have been removed from, that would be appreciated.
Dread Lord CyberSkull
✎☠
07:11, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
In regards to Template:Pokeinfobox, does anyone prefer the older version? I agree with removing some of the fannish sections, but I preferred the older design. Thoughts? H ig hway Rainbow Sneakers 21:36, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
Question: Why do the Kanto Gym Leaders all get their own page, while the Johto and Hoenn ones get a "list of" page? I don't mind the lsit of pages, but I woudl like to see some consistency. Hbdragon88 01:50, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
Please keep an eye on Pokémon and Pokémon (anime). CoolKatt number 99999 is trying to reinsert the godawful and wholly unencyclopedic trivia from the recently-deleted Cultural references in Pokémon into each article, often without placing them in context or giving any source (other than links to the top pages of Serebii, Bulbagarden, or TV.com). - A Man In Bl♟ck ( conspire | past ops) 05:54, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
In the parts of an article where it talks about a particular characters Pokémon, the images and text are all muddled up, I think we should fix that be placing it all in tables, like this
{| | ==== Pokémon Name ==== |} {| | ==== Another Pokémon ==== |}
because theres like an image, with half of text of the Pokémon thats in the image, and half of a different Pokémon, there should be like a line of images, and a line of text. I would also recommend the images are at the same side, because it still looks wierd if there not. Poke Master ( Talk • Contribs) 15:52, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
We need an image of Kyo, one of Janine and one of Blue for List of Kanto Gym Leaders Poke Master ( Talk • Contribs) 19:46, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
I think we should expand the anime and manga section as we pass Pokémon articles. I mean like for episodes where the Pokémon the article is talking about is the main Pokémon, we should expand it to tell everyone what happened in the episode, write your comments below. Poke Master ( Talk • Contribs) 15:14, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
I'd like to help get an article to featured status, but I don't know which article to work on, if you have any ideas, please let me know Poke Master ( Talk • Contribs) 15:50, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
The article Pokémon is now a featured article candidate, and may become a featured article. Please vote at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Pokémon. I hope that the vote goes well, and the article will succeed. Poke Master ( Talk • Contribs) 19:11, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
I've created a new template for manga characters. Feel free to modify it and improve it. Poke Master ( Talk • Contribs) 19:46, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
I’ll mention this here also, as it already has a distressing number of delete votes. List of Pokémon attacks is on AfD. See the discussion here. -- WikidSmaht ( talk) 02:51, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
Someone removed the thumbnails. Do you think we should have thumbnails, or just links to the image? Poke Master ( Talk • Contribs) 11:50, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
I started an new article, but the section about Tyson's Pokémon needs to be Wikified, any volunteers. Also, someone should start an article on Morrison (Pokémon) Poke Master ( Talk • Contribs) 15:27, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
I've tagged it as copyvio, since only two paragraphs of it weren't copyied from bulbapedia. Even the infobox was copied!-- A c1983fan ( talk • contribs) 23:53, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
I have summarily deleted the infobox and all of its subboxes as copyvio. Don't do this again. - A Man In Bl♟ck ( conspire | past ops) 00:54, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
Hey guys. I was going to tag this article with {{ prod}}, but decided I'd better see If others agree with me. So, anyone agree?-- A c1983fan ( talk • contribs) 17:19, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
I think we should create articles about Pokémon episodes, because List_of_Pokémon_episodes links to articles about individual Pokémon episodes. The articles seems to be abandones, so we should help create them. COmments will be appreciated, thanks -- Pokesaur 15:45, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
No, no, no, no, NO! Episode guides are non-encyclopedaic, trivial and worthless. While Wiki is not paper, they waste disk space and slow the servers. It's unnecessary and futile. Please, please don't create these articles. Thanks! — Cel es tianpower háblame 19:39, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
I am deleting, as blatant copyvio, any episode pages that are blatantly copied from Bulbapedia. This has gone on long enough, and Bulbapedia has asked us to remove them, repeatedly. - A Man In Bl♟ck ( conspire | past ops) 01:00, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
I know We're only supposed to talk about wikipedia-related stuff here, but I just had put this somewhere. So anyways, I was fishing for carvahna with my good rod, and a gold magikarp showed up. I ended up KO'ing it though. Anybody else have an experience where they Ko'ed a shiny?-- A c1983fan ( talk • contribs) 22:12, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
The list of members on the front page is getting REALLY long, so let's weed it a little. It's time for a roll call. If you're still interested in working on this project's articles (even if you're not doing so right now; I'm just removing people who aren't active on WP or aren't interested any more), please sign below.
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