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Can some cooler heads than mine have a look at Aurangzeb, please? -- Nemonoman 19:20, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
Edits to Aurangzeb are quickly approaching an edit war. -- Nemonoman 15:59, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
I've protected it for now =Nichalp «Talk»= 00:53, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
Congrats to all new Indian admins promoted when I was absent. :) Good work, keep it up and may we get many more. Regards, =Nichalp «Talk»= 00:39, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
I am trying to avoid getting into this sort of thing, but can anyone explain why Category:Tamil is a subcat of Category:Stateless peoples? If they are, why arent all Indian ethnicities? (Except Bengalis, I suppose.) I would have gone ahead and removed it myself, but, as I said, I am trying to keep my blood pressure low these days. Hornplease 11:45, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
There is a discussion going on about creating statistics in the following format:
India articles by quality and importance | |||||||
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Quality | Importance | ||||||
Top | High | Mid | Low | NA | ??? | Total | |
FA | 2 | 6 | 34 | 48 | 1 | 91 | |
FL | 6 | 10 | 33 | 135 | 184 | ||
A | 1 | 2 | 2 | 5 | |||
GA | 23 | 57 | 173 | 465 | 718 | ||
B | 122 | 422 | 855 | 1,645 | 93 | 3,137 | |
C | 94 | 827 | 2,248 | 9,799 | 1 | 546 | 13,515 |
Start | 20 | 1,025 | 5,209 | 62,150 | 4 | 1,718 | 70,126 |
Stub | 1 | 309 | 2,444 | 95,711 | 3 | 1,641 | 100,109 |
List | 23 | 200 | 613 | 4,987 | 27 | 164 | 6,014 |
Category | 5 | 49 | 41,963 | 42,017 | |||
Disambig | 1 | 42 | 733 | 776 | |||
File | 12 | 8 | 1,468 | 1,488 | |||
Portal | 89 | 89 | |||||
Project | 209 | 209 | |||||
Redirect | 2 | 109 | 407 | 5,947 | 3,487 | 9,952 | |
Template | 1 | 2 | 4 | 6,298 | 6,305 | ||
NA | 2 | 2 | |||||
Draft | 34 | 773 | 807 | ||||
Assessed | 294 | 2,967 | 12,037 | 181,026 | 55,057 | 4,163 | 255,544 |
Unassessed | 2 | 2 | 88 | 12 | 3,495 | 3,599 | |
Total | 294 | 2,969 | 12,039 | 181,114 | 55,069 | 7,658 | 259,143 |
WikiWork factors ( ?) | ω = 1,016,202 | Ω = 5.41 |
This table is now up to date again.
It is updated by a tool on the toolserver; it will not work if the toolserver is
having problems.
If
this chart is showing much more than zero,
then the table will be updated slowly or not at all.
Using the above idea, I updated our banner to implement intersection categories. Please check
India articles by quality and importance. Now you can find out
Stub-Class India articles of Top-importance. I feel
B-Class India articles of Top-importance will be really useful for FA writers for pick articles. And
Category:Stub-Class India articles of Top-importance could feed
WP:INCOTW. Please comment. Regards,
Ganeshk (
talk) 22:47, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
The contribution of Narendra Singh Sarila to the history of the Partition of India certainly needs to be incorporated into the article about it. Unfortunately, I'm not sufficiently Wiki-knowledgeable to do it myself (can't figure out how to log in or write). He wrote _The Shadow of the Great Game— The Untold Story of India’s Partition_, and is certainly well qualified to understand the issues. Won't somebody please look him up, or at least look at the book reviews, which give the gist of the Mountbatten-Jinnah negotiations he witnessed in 1947? -- Marshall Price of Miami, Florida, November 22, 2006; email d021317c@yahoo.com
I think this is somewhat POV (to say the least). Can somebody fix this? utcursch | talk 04:30, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
Someone has changed the entry on the India main page to show Delhi as a full-fledged state. I haven't come across any bill or act that has given such a status to Delhi. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Thanks! =Nichalp «Talk»= 15:17, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
As far as my knowledge goes, that site is incorrect. For a state to be created, a Constitutional ammendment is a must. =Nichalp «Talk»= 15:55, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
After starting with sorting this Very Large stub this week, have proposed the further creation of some more stubs at Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals/2006/November. STTW (talk) 20:15, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
Is there a chance of a new workgroup being created under 'People' or a similar title? Within this workgroup could be included major figures of India such as Mahatma Gandhi, Nehru, Tilak, etc. There could even be sub-workgroups splitting them up into celebrities, politicians, saints/godmen, etc. Tags and banners would need to be created for this purpose. Hopefully there will be enough consensus to give the green light to creating and expanding this new workgroup? Ekantik 06:47, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
I support the proposal as mentioned by Ganeshk. It would be a great idea to have a separete project on Indian personalities. Amartyabag 09:34, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
Who edited the Kukhran page?
the grammar is absolutely terrible and a lot of the information is speculative (such as greeks having intermingled with Kukhran tribes???? I'd be very interested to see the evidence you can provide for this assertion)
in fact the previous page prior to this one was much better and more accurate with regards to scope and historical verification. Whoever edited this page (I mean you're a Kukhran as well, at least you better be), I don't mean to put you down but before you edit a page like this consider the grammar and citation that is necessary in order to maintain a certain level of professionalism and respect. You need citations on many occasions and deleted! the writing of previous authors who actually did a very good job and whose actual work was accurate.
This is what I absolutely hate about wikipedia you know someone comes along and does a great job and then another person comes along and ruins it.
I mean I see here you did try and create a more distinct structure to the page and create differentiated categories which is great, yet you added some of your own speculative information which is (ahem) not the ultimate goal of this website I presume, and this whole project for that regard.
I'd like to edit this page and check for grammatical mistakes as well as add much needed RESEARCHED citations and evidence. Being a Kukhran myself the validity and accuracy of this page is essential and important to me.
please contact me at to let me know how I can get involved and fix this page.
Thank you.
I just tried fixing up the Kukhran page but there's just too much to do right now grammatically etc. I have to come back to it, why did you interchange Kukhran and Kukhrein, its Kukhran/Kukhrain man...just Kukhran I've never heard of Kukhrein before in my life. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 125.23.72.200 ( talk • contribs) 09:59, 21 November 2006.
You can check out who edited the page by clicking the history button on the top. This is the shortcut. If you intend to copyedit or make changes, please make sure that the content is referenced by credible sources, is neutrally written and contains brilliant prose. There is no need to email you, why don't you create an account here so we get to know you better? Thanks! =Nichalp «Talk»= 00:43, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
why would I want to join a community which allows anyone to edit and change information that masses of people can then access and assume as fact? I went to your little history page...and here we have PAKISTANI individuals who have listed "India" as a nation they consider to be a threat to world peace on their personal pages, editing and writing articles regarding an Indian caste/community of Hindus and Sikhs. What really pissed me off is that this man CHANGED the pages history by stating that large numbers of Kukhrans converted to Islam..when in actuallity it is a ridiculously small community that was unable to leave their land after partition and thus did not want to be killed by muslim mobs. Kukhrans are warrior peoples and we are the ones who resisted Muslim rule for centuries..and this Pakistani who openly states that he hates India is now editing pages of Indian regard, ABSOLUTELY PROPOSTEROUS...this website will never have any credibility as long as things like this are allowed to go on. Its a shame, a damn shame. Maybe if you fix this issue I'd consider actively participating on this website. But as long as anyone can come in and try and re-write/create their own history...NO WAY.
and someone ELSE can come along and change it back...u clearly didn't read my post. Do you have an answer to the question I raised? I presume you do not because I'm right. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.246.25.237 ( talk • contribs)
Recently I created an article Ghatam Udupa, a percussionist from Bangalore, Karnataka. However, I haven't been able to find the original script (possiby Kannada) for the title. Can anyone with a fair knowledge of Kannada put the original script in the article ? Thanks. -- N R S | T/ M\ B 14:26, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
Post your request here: Wikipedia:WikiProject India/Translation-- D-Boy 08:00, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
For घटम ऊडुपा, the transliteration is: ಘಟಮ್ ಊಡುಪಾ. However, "Udupa" may even be ಉಡುಪಾ for the same pronunciation as the default vowel length of "u" is higher in Kannada as compared to Hindi. — Ambuj Saxena ( talk) 13:24, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
Apparently, Agasthiya was an old prophet in Nadi astrology who lived around 3000 BC. I stumbled upon him while I was researching stuff for this odd little Japanese game titled Nostradamus ni Kiite Miro♪. Which is apparently about cute little girls being the incarnations of Nostradamus' and Agasthiya's prophecies. Apparently, he's moderately well known in Japan, but I've never heard of him (I'm American). Anyways, I'm getting confused already, so it would be nice if I could have some more information to go off so I could understand this whole Agasthiya character thing better. Even a simple stub would be nice, whatever you happen to be able to dig up. -- SeizureDog 22:08, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
I re-adjusted the table width while making the font of the stats table smaller. If it's hard to read, users may simply click "view full worklist". AQu01rius ( User • Talk) 23:10, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
Can someone put this text File:Indianamestrip.jpg into the organization name on the article? Thanks Chris 04:19, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
Can anyone with contacts in Kannada Wikipedia see into this matter. They seem to be using a fair use image kn:ಚಿತ್ರ:ಸುವರ್ಣ ಕರ್ನಾಟಕ.png in all their encyclopedia articles. The image is from NIC.IN website and is about celebration of 50 years of existence of Karnataka. Even if the image were free, I am sure such things are unwarranted. In the past, the Urdu Wikipedia was pulled up for putting Quranic verses on top of all articles. We shouldn't let that happen to one of Indian language encyclopedias. — Ambuj Saxena ( talk) 05:48, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
Have a look at Wikipedia:Meetup, this can happen in big Indian cities as well where there are multiple wikipedians. Vjdchauhan 11:13, 27 November 2006 (UTC). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vjdchauhan ( talk • contribs)
I have started two new workgroups,
WikiProject Andhra Pradesh and
WikiProject Karnataka. The banner flags are andhra=yes and karnataka=yes
respy. Please feel free to join-in and contribute. Thanks,
Ganeshk (
talk) 06:08, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
Voting on the use of indic scripts.-- D-Boy 01:21, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
Shall I attempt to merge this with Njekkad, using the Asiaweek article as a reference? Ivygohnair 14:09, 30 November 2006 (UTC) If so,I will need help to check the Malayalam spellings in the article :-) Ivygohnair 14:22, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
Hello there! A user has created the article Mair Rajputs and wikilinked to several Indian articles. We would like a member of this WikiProject to determine if this article is actually necessary. The article itself triggered a copyvio warning at Wikipedia:Suspected copyright violations, and another at the spam bot for the amount of links linked there. I deleted this article earlier today because it was blatant copyvio, but now it appears not to have that problem. Thanks. -- ReyBrujo 21:02, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
It is being suggested and stressed that all articles about historical sites in South Asia which are not in the Republic of India should be tagged using {{WP SouthAsia}} instead of {{WP India}}. {{WP India}} contains references to present day India, including but not limited to the Flag of India/ Ashoka Chakra, which represent India the country rather than the whole region. Using this tag for those sites which are not in India is deemed strongly offensive and an indirect territorial claim over the country of the site. Any article can have tags representing the country where the site is located along with {{WP SouthAsia}} to emphasize the importance of the site in the history of whole region including all countries. Szhaider 18:38, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
PS: The same suggestion is applied to the personalities with historical importance for the entire South Asia.
Hello everyone, I am involved with Out of India page and being supported by NobleEagle on that page. D-Boy also added to that support today. I strongly believe that India and Vedic history is being distorted by lots of people. I have lots of research related to this topic and I strongly believe that if this theory is presented and argued properly, would have a great impact on India and Vedic history. I am new to WP and need support in addressing POV of people against out of India theory related to Aryan. I am ticked-off about how India's history is mis-represneted and would appreciate any help I can get to address that. Thanks. Sbhushan, 03:06, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
I'm working on it in my userspace before taking it to main article. Need a lot of help on it. Bakaman Bakatalk 04:48, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
If there is anyone with an interest in or specializing in biodiversity related issues you may be interested in the google group Wiki_India_Nature which you can join by sending a blank email to Wiki_India_Nature-subscribe AT googlegroups.com The primary targets of the group are to improve information on biodiversity, a few of the works currently in progress may be seen on
....And many more The work needs people interested in doing library research, photographers and technical translators. Shyamal 05:45, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
Have a look at [2]. Many delete discussions are not justified. STTW (talk) 13:52, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
User:Szhaider makes a good point here that the flag of the Republic of India should not be affixed to the Wikiproject:India template, since the template covers subjects like Mohenjo-Daro which were never under the Republic of India. — goethean ॐ 21:52, 28 November 2006 (UTC) Well said and I agree Nadirali 03:19, 29 November 2006 (UTC)Nadirali
I think bot-assisted tagging of articles are not really a good idea, because it adds a lot of articles unrelated to the actual project. Unless people from a Wikiproject actually are working on the article, it will be wrong to do a brute-force mechanized tagging. My 2 cents. --
Ragib 22:20, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
{{WP India|history=yes}}
. This avoids the need to create seperate project banners for each workgroup. India is just a over-all root project. The maintanance of the article will be done by the respective workgroup. Regards,
Ganeshk (
talk) 22:37, 28 November 2006 (UTC)I want to know couple of things. Is there any reason why an article cannot be a part of two independent WikiProjects? If there is no such restriction, what is wrong in having both tags on the talk pages? Sarvagnya 22:40, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
Since one of the bots doing the tagging is mine, I'd like to add that I take a lot of care while selecting categories and dont include ambiguous categories. Errors are bound to happen however and anyone finding an error with the bot edits is free to remove them. — Lost (talk) 05:16, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
Since some strongly feel about this flag image, I wanted to suggest adding a parameter to the banner, "pre=yes" to denote pre-independence article. If "pre" is set to "yes", the template will morph itself to show a image "Ashoka pillar" (for example) and any links to India will link to Indian subcontinent. How does this sound? -- Ganeshk ( talk) 22:58, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
How does this look? I used the Mauryan map when pre is set to "yes". I chose this one since it loads fast. The Indian sub-contitent map is too huge. Ashoka pillar does not fit correctly. There no links to India, so nothing else (except the image) changed. Does anyone else have better image ideas? --
Ganeshk (
talk) 08:24, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
I've been asked to comment on the issue and here's what I feel>
I hope this clearly defines the jurisdiction of regional wikiprojects. If needed I can illustrate this with Venn diagrams. Regards, =Nichalp «Talk»= 11:08, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
It concerns to note that some editors here view WikiProject India as something that glorifies India. Even though we may be as patriotic as we can be personally, it only aims to expand coverage on topics with NPOV. There are no territorial disputes here. Anyone can work on any project. We are just writing an encyclopaedia! I suggest to Ganeshk that may be we could change the wordings in the WP India Template as,
This article is within the scope of WikiProject India, where its contributions would help improve the content and quality of the article and the related topic substantially. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page.
which is more neutral, instead of,
This article is within the scope of WikiProject India, which aims to improve Wikipedia's coverage of India-related topics. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page.
I feel, as we move deeper into history and as we expand our relations with other countries of the world, an inside view for any India related article would help provide a balance to that article, instead of POV. I support the move to change the image by Ganeshk. However, I should also add that the image of ashoka pillar or anything related a particular dynasty wouldn't fit the historical/future scope of the Indian subcontinent.
BTW, D-Boy, I see some overheating on a number of discussions from ur side. It would be great if you look at things at macro perspective, rather than discussing everywhere with a singular microscopic view. Consider an inside-out perspective, instead of a outside-in perspective. It is one thing to follow standards and it is another to set constructive standards (eg. implementation of small format talk headers. see: Talk:India for implementation.). I'd suggest a wikibreak. Cheers. -- Ch e z ( Discuss / Email) 02:27, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
Tamil people has been brought to FAR. Please be there and comment. Regards.-- Dwaipayan ( talk) 15:45, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
Hello. I protected this template after only a short revert-war between Szhaider and Dangerous-Boy, because it indirectly causes an edit war on dozens of pags simultanouesly. Szhaider wants it unlocked, claiming that my locking implies that I am biased. Please give an opinion as to what to do next, Blnguyen ( bananabucket) 01:34, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
Suggestions needed for Satellite Instructional Television Experiment. Please add your suggestions at the peer review. Thanks. - Aksi_great ( talk) 20:16, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
interesting discussion -- D-Boy 07:28, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
yeah, right. mighty interesting. - Aditya Kabir 16:57, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
Kingboyk and Reedy Boy have kindly developed a plugin for WP:India which makes it very easy for LostBot and Ganeshbot to tag specific workgroup related articles. LostBot is now tagging articles in Category:Politics of India and its subcats. Please keep an eye on the edits and let me know if irrelevant articles get tagged in large quantities. That may mean that a wrong category is being tagged. Thanks — Lost (talk) 15:09, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
As much as I'd love to do battle with Hkelkar and his fellow editors, I have a job and have to work.
This is the way the article Indian Buddhist Revival (now redirected, with no request for input, to a page called Dalit Buddhist Movement)looks today:[
[3]]. The page history (briefly interrupted by an editor who futily tries to protest named Pkulkani)is here:[
[4]].
The Kherlanji Massacre (which, believe me, is truly horrific by any human standard) looks like this [
[5]]. This is it's page history:[
[6]].
Hkelkar is working in concert with an Editor named Ambroodey, who was apparently called out of retirement by an editor named Dangerous Boy (or D-Boy). It appears I have a new "friend".
NinaEliza 02:54, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
NinaEliza 04:22, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
NinaEliza 04:33, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
Two of them - Surekha and Priyanka were allegedly raped before they were killed.
Nina,
If you have problems with my edits, dicuss them with me. Its no use sniping on random project talk pages...
अमेय आर्यन DaBrood © 16:52, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
Please see this post on ANI by Dmcdevit. I have blocked all the sock-accounts and Pkulkarni as the sockmaster (the latter for a month as it is a first time offence). - Aksi_great ( talk) 11:54, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
First of all let me put this straight that I have been trying extremely hard to restrain my feelings about certain editors and admins and their obviously biased actions. There is a certain editor who insists adding devangari to every imaginable article related to Pakistan and its culture and tries to Indianize articles as much as he can. Another takes refuge in personal attacks against me and my country. One flag-carrier is just an out-of-control teenager. A couple of admins are clearly taking sides with Indian bunch violating all values on which Wikipedia boasts about itself. Not even once D-Boy has been warned against his aggressive behavior against me and Pakistan-related articles. This is a shame.
Talking about template logo, the word India in today's world refers to Republic of India and calling the entire South Asia, India or Indian sub-continent is also indirect territorial claim as if the entire region is actually part of Republic of India; just temporarily separated. Term of South Asia not only covers all historical sites and personalities of both India and Pakistan but also is a neutral reference to the region. Current WP India tag is still based on POV and is no way neutral with the word of India both in the name and text, and with the Ashoka Chakra which refers to Hidnuism. WikiProject India should be restricted to Republic of India only. Szhaider 10:20, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
Wikiproject south Asia is doomed from the start as, if you remove India, no two other countries share anything common that merits that. Wikiproject South Asia is more divisive than collaborative. Secondly have you read my #Comments above? Please read it. =Nichalp «Talk»= 12:57, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
There was a request for the South Korea-India relations article in WikiProject Korea's to create list. Could anybody from WikiProject India evaluate the article for neutrality, grammar, factual consistency? Thanks. ( Wikimachine 04:21, 7 December 2006 (UTC))
Time for the periodic reminder to use proper symbols. When is somebody involved in the WikiProject:India going to take some responsibility and fix these to "km", the proper symbol? Why are India-related articles such frequent violators of the rules in this regard in the first place? Also, meters are "m" not "mtr", and the symbols are case sensitive too (i.e., "KM" is just as incorrect as "kms"). Gene Nygaard 01:27, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
I've been wasting far too much time on these problem articles. From here on out, they're jsut getting copyedit and cleanup tags and whatever else is appropriate. Maybe when half the India-related articles have them, somebody will notice and do something about the pervasive, systematic problems. Gene Nygaard 19:59, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:WikiProject_Stub_sorting/Proposals/2006/December#.7B.7BSikh-bio-stub.7D.7D.2C_Category:Sikh_religious_figures. Baka man 01:54, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
Could someone come up with suitable categories for Mile sur mera tumhara, before our anonymous friend breaks a limb reverting? :) Achitnis 10:22, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
Pls give your comments for the moving of the page Duars to Dooars at Talk:Duars. Amartyabag 11:40, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
Hello,
I was on RC Patrol last night and I ran across the article Hereditary Education Policy. This article seems heavily POV and an anon was trying to clean it up. I ended up reverting him because he took out huge chunks of the article. However, the article is definitely in need of an overhaul and cleanup from somebody who is knowledgable on the subject. Anything you guys can do to help? – Lantoka ( talk) 21:57, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
Hi Lantoka, if an article talk of a Governemnt Policy, it must refer to that particular government policy prefereably giving exact words of the government order, government cabinet decisions and so forth. All this article gives is political propoganda of the opponents of the Chief Minister of the government Mr C Rajagopalachari. There are 8 biographies of this gentleman and none of the refer to this particular policy which is called as 'Kula Kalvi Thittam' . If the writer of the article does not produce those references , I would request the Admins to remove the article as not confirming to Wiki standards of objectivity. Also, an outright abuse of Wiki is to post references which have nothing to do with the subject in question. Reference No 1 is the onesided presentation of this 'policy', if such a thing existed. References 2 to 8 and the external link have nothing to with the subject of the article. Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 161.12.7.4 ( talk • contribs)
This is with reference to Hereditary_Education_Policy.Now the Tamil Nadu government website
http://www.tn.gov.in/gorders/sed/default.htm has details only from 1997 .
http://www.tn.gov.in/government.htm .There is no information relating to legislation prior to the Computer era before 1990 in the Tamil Nadu government site this includes all legislation not just the 'Kula Kalvi Thittam' .This is true worldwide.Old legislations prior to the computer/internet era before 1985 are not easily available on the internet in most of the 200 nations will take years and cost millions to secure them and no encyclopedia does that
Further Ref 2,6,7,8 do mention 'Kula Kalvi Thittam' in the page 5 brahmin domination and 3 7 4 about the Varna system .I would all including who vandalised the page 3 here to do bring out points about as Harlowraman pointed out Positive Editing bring out points about the Rajaji's educational reforms between 1952-54 rather than negative editing blanking or deleting data.
Tametiger (
talk
to Tametiger: That is a lame excuse, tametiger. We are not talking of what Rajaji 'felt' ; we are talking of Government policies; all the Government orders are issued by Gazette , known to the public and publsihed in newspapers. All biographical and well-researched books refer to Government orders with date of issue, serial number and the contents. You must give reference to such books or contemporary newspaper articles which refer to the alledged government orders. Why do you give reference only to dodgy internet sites. If you cannot refer to Government orders and decisions, I think you are merely indulging in fantasies. Wiki is not a place for indulging in your fantasies. It is upto the authour of the article to support his/her points. You write "all government documents,Cabinet decisions of all policies taken prior to the Computer/internet era are not available online". This is a lame excuse not to provide documentary evidence, which means this is merely a propaganda. If you cannot refer to books or original newspaper reports of the government orders and government decisions, this article should be removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 161.12.7.4 ( talk • contribs)
Hello every buddy,few years back i saw movie with Name "Agni" by actor Sai Kumar,does any one know abut him? i mean if any one having his pic? or details.i love to read abut him,i tryed much to look for him on net but could not,if any one can help me. in this regard.
User:khalidkhoso:khalidkhoso 13:24, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
We only have cinema and literature under 'Arts'. I believe we should have a category for Indian arts (as in paintings, drawings) and dance. If not, how do we draw attention (for peer review, for connecting articles to contributors interested in the visual and performing arts) to the numerous Indian dance articles, for example? Just wondering. Cheers, AppleJuggler 13:04, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
This page is clearly getting vandalised.I reverted it again today after there was mass deletion
1:Only 1 name needs to be used either Periyar or EVR not 2 creates confusion to readers particularly foriegners.Periyar is how he is known.He is refered as Periyar in Tamil Nadu Government.[1] University is called Periyar Universityn named after him[2] The Tamil Nadu Government refers to him as Periyar.One can verify it from the Tamil Nadu government Website http://www.tn.gov.in/pressrelease/archives/pr2004/pr170904/pr170904.htm http://www.tn.gov.in and not as EVR.
2: Periyar being likened to Hitler is potentially libellous as Hitler was responsible for millions of deaths whereas Periyar was not guilty of even one.Further no evidence or citation is given this comment.Periyar turned the offer to become the head of the Madras Presidency in 1939 after the Congress quit but he turned it down now to compare Hitler is wrong.
3:Brahmins:comments like The population of Brahmins in Tamil Nadu, which was about 10% in the 1920s, is today less than 3% as a result of persecution by EVR and his followers are strange as not even a Single Brahmin has been killed in the entire Dravidan movement. Further Rajaji,Jayalaitha and Janaki who were Chief Minsiters were Brahmins and ruled Tamil Nadu longer than any other single community and these statements are not backed by citations or evidence which are required.Jayalalitha is the head of a Dravidan Party
4: And the wording should be encyclopedic none emotional and contraversial lines like Within a span of 20 years, the Brahmins of Tamil Nadu, who had been living there for more than 2000 years, were turned into alien immigrants by the DK's propaganda. The speeches called for the elimination of Brahmins from Tamil Nadu, and the enslavement of Brahmin women. The speeches harkened back to an ancient Tamil glory, similar to Hitler's revival of ancient Germanic culture are not abcked by citations or Evidence
5:Further some blanked His Childhood and Education
Please help.Thanks Harlowraman
a.It is a pity the childhood and education section is blank. b. His name was E.V.Ramasami Naicker and periyar is the title given by his idolizing followers. Hence wherever possible E.V.Ramasami Naicker or EVR should be used. Wiki is not the place for personality cult and everyone should be known by their ordinary names. 3.Because he was a controversial character, there should be some reference to a different POV. This article is not neutral at all, since it gives the POV of his admirers only. 4. Whatever pint is made should be backed up with preferably a neutral report. Statements like He went on a pilgrimage to Varanasi to worship in the famous Siva temple. But discrimination against non-brahmins made him think rationally. He was prevented from eating in places of free-lunch because he did not appear to be a brahmin" appear to be taken out of some petty propaganda material. It is even peurile to suggest that only under discrimination one can think rationally. 5. I don't see the previous posters points 2,3,4. I don't know what is he/she talking about.
This page is clearly getting vandalised several times.It is potentially libellous.note of the allegations have any citation which I have asked for.The wording are not encyclopedic. This is not cult .1:Only 1 name needs to be used either Periyar or EVR not 2 creates confusion to readers particularly foriegners.Periyar is how he is known. Tamil Nadu Government refers to him as Periyar. http://www.tn.gov.in/government.htm.He is refered as Periyar in Tamil Nadu Government. Periyar University is called named after him and there is a river Periyar after him.Also, convention suggests that the most common name be used as far as possible in the text of the article The name Periyar is used by the The Tamil Nadu Government refers to him as Periyar.One can verify it from the Tamil Nadu government Website http://www.tn.gov.in/pressrelease/archives/pr2004/pr170904/pr170904.htm http://www.tn.gov.in and not as EVR.A search with the name Periyar will do it for you. See all actors are known by the film names not there real names for example Jayalalitha 's real name Komalavalli, Vikram's real name is John Kennedy further Joseph Stalin is known so and not as Joseph Vissarionovich Dzhugashvili .This is not cult .Also convention suggests that the most common name be used as far as possible in the text of the article.If pages were put by Komalavalli or John Kennedy .No will know them and users will not be able to reach them.Similar is the case with several of them.Now not all of them have changed there names legally. the article is there as it was http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Periyar_Ramasami before the mass deletion by user 192.223.243.6.further I am not reverting or blanking any of the edits done by others users. ( Harlowraman 07:45, 13 December 2006 (UTC)).
The name change has been effected and the article must be moved. 155.69.5.234 20:18, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
I think we need to check the Kapil Dev page. It says that he played 3099 one day international games in the table on the right. I am pretty sure he did not play that many games. And by table, I mean the second table from the top. Vignesh 06:32, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
Can someone tell what is the name of the lamp shown on the tail of this acft [9], wanted it for the table i made for Air India Express liveries. Also, can anyone identify these paintings [10]? Thanks -- PlaneMad| YakYak 09:02, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
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Can some cooler heads than mine have a look at Aurangzeb, please? -- Nemonoman 19:20, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
Edits to Aurangzeb are quickly approaching an edit war. -- Nemonoman 15:59, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
I've protected it for now =Nichalp «Talk»= 00:53, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
Congrats to all new Indian admins promoted when I was absent. :) Good work, keep it up and may we get many more. Regards, =Nichalp «Talk»= 00:39, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
I am trying to avoid getting into this sort of thing, but can anyone explain why Category:Tamil is a subcat of Category:Stateless peoples? If they are, why arent all Indian ethnicities? (Except Bengalis, I suppose.) I would have gone ahead and removed it myself, but, as I said, I am trying to keep my blood pressure low these days. Hornplease 11:45, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
There is a discussion going on about creating statistics in the following format:
India articles by quality and importance | |||||||
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Quality | Importance | ||||||
Top | High | Mid | Low | NA | ??? | Total | |
FA | 2 | 6 | 34 | 48 | 1 | 91 | |
FL | 6 | 10 | 33 | 135 | 184 | ||
A | 1 | 2 | 2 | 5 | |||
GA | 23 | 57 | 173 | 465 | 718 | ||
B | 122 | 422 | 855 | 1,645 | 93 | 3,137 | |
C | 94 | 827 | 2,248 | 9,799 | 1 | 546 | 13,515 |
Start | 20 | 1,025 | 5,209 | 62,150 | 4 | 1,718 | 70,126 |
Stub | 1 | 309 | 2,444 | 95,711 | 3 | 1,641 | 100,109 |
List | 23 | 200 | 613 | 4,987 | 27 | 164 | 6,014 |
Category | 5 | 49 | 41,963 | 42,017 | |||
Disambig | 1 | 42 | 733 | 776 | |||
File | 12 | 8 | 1,468 | 1,488 | |||
Portal | 89 | 89 | |||||
Project | 209 | 209 | |||||
Redirect | 2 | 109 | 407 | 5,947 | 3,487 | 9,952 | |
Template | 1 | 2 | 4 | 6,298 | 6,305 | ||
NA | 2 | 2 | |||||
Draft | 34 | 773 | 807 | ||||
Assessed | 294 | 2,967 | 12,037 | 181,026 | 55,057 | 4,163 | 255,544 |
Unassessed | 2 | 2 | 88 | 12 | 3,495 | 3,599 | |
Total | 294 | 2,969 | 12,039 | 181,114 | 55,069 | 7,658 | 259,143 |
WikiWork factors ( ?) | ω = 1,016,202 | Ω = 5.41 |
This table is now up to date again.
It is updated by a tool on the toolserver; it will not work if the toolserver is
having problems.
If
this chart is showing much more than zero,
then the table will be updated slowly or not at all.
Using the above idea, I updated our banner to implement intersection categories. Please check
India articles by quality and importance. Now you can find out
Stub-Class India articles of Top-importance. I feel
B-Class India articles of Top-importance will be really useful for FA writers for pick articles. And
Category:Stub-Class India articles of Top-importance could feed
WP:INCOTW. Please comment. Regards,
Ganeshk (
talk) 22:47, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
The contribution of Narendra Singh Sarila to the history of the Partition of India certainly needs to be incorporated into the article about it. Unfortunately, I'm not sufficiently Wiki-knowledgeable to do it myself (can't figure out how to log in or write). He wrote _The Shadow of the Great Game— The Untold Story of India’s Partition_, and is certainly well qualified to understand the issues. Won't somebody please look him up, or at least look at the book reviews, which give the gist of the Mountbatten-Jinnah negotiations he witnessed in 1947? -- Marshall Price of Miami, Florida, November 22, 2006; email d021317c@yahoo.com
I think this is somewhat POV (to say the least). Can somebody fix this? utcursch | talk 04:30, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
Someone has changed the entry on the India main page to show Delhi as a full-fledged state. I haven't come across any bill or act that has given such a status to Delhi. Please correct me if I'm wrong. Thanks! =Nichalp «Talk»= 15:17, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
As far as my knowledge goes, that site is incorrect. For a state to be created, a Constitutional ammendment is a must. =Nichalp «Talk»= 15:55, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
After starting with sorting this Very Large stub this week, have proposed the further creation of some more stubs at Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals/2006/November. STTW (talk) 20:15, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
Is there a chance of a new workgroup being created under 'People' or a similar title? Within this workgroup could be included major figures of India such as Mahatma Gandhi, Nehru, Tilak, etc. There could even be sub-workgroups splitting them up into celebrities, politicians, saints/godmen, etc. Tags and banners would need to be created for this purpose. Hopefully there will be enough consensus to give the green light to creating and expanding this new workgroup? Ekantik 06:47, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
I support the proposal as mentioned by Ganeshk. It would be a great idea to have a separete project on Indian personalities. Amartyabag 09:34, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
Who edited the Kukhran page?
the grammar is absolutely terrible and a lot of the information is speculative (such as greeks having intermingled with Kukhran tribes???? I'd be very interested to see the evidence you can provide for this assertion)
in fact the previous page prior to this one was much better and more accurate with regards to scope and historical verification. Whoever edited this page (I mean you're a Kukhran as well, at least you better be), I don't mean to put you down but before you edit a page like this consider the grammar and citation that is necessary in order to maintain a certain level of professionalism and respect. You need citations on many occasions and deleted! the writing of previous authors who actually did a very good job and whose actual work was accurate.
This is what I absolutely hate about wikipedia you know someone comes along and does a great job and then another person comes along and ruins it.
I mean I see here you did try and create a more distinct structure to the page and create differentiated categories which is great, yet you added some of your own speculative information which is (ahem) not the ultimate goal of this website I presume, and this whole project for that regard.
I'd like to edit this page and check for grammatical mistakes as well as add much needed RESEARCHED citations and evidence. Being a Kukhran myself the validity and accuracy of this page is essential and important to me.
please contact me at to let me know how I can get involved and fix this page.
Thank you.
I just tried fixing up the Kukhran page but there's just too much to do right now grammatically etc. I have to come back to it, why did you interchange Kukhran and Kukhrein, its Kukhran/Kukhrain man...just Kukhran I've never heard of Kukhrein before in my life. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 125.23.72.200 ( talk • contribs) 09:59, 21 November 2006.
You can check out who edited the page by clicking the history button on the top. This is the shortcut. If you intend to copyedit or make changes, please make sure that the content is referenced by credible sources, is neutrally written and contains brilliant prose. There is no need to email you, why don't you create an account here so we get to know you better? Thanks! =Nichalp «Talk»= 00:43, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
why would I want to join a community which allows anyone to edit and change information that masses of people can then access and assume as fact? I went to your little history page...and here we have PAKISTANI individuals who have listed "India" as a nation they consider to be a threat to world peace on their personal pages, editing and writing articles regarding an Indian caste/community of Hindus and Sikhs. What really pissed me off is that this man CHANGED the pages history by stating that large numbers of Kukhrans converted to Islam..when in actuallity it is a ridiculously small community that was unable to leave their land after partition and thus did not want to be killed by muslim mobs. Kukhrans are warrior peoples and we are the ones who resisted Muslim rule for centuries..and this Pakistani who openly states that he hates India is now editing pages of Indian regard, ABSOLUTELY PROPOSTEROUS...this website will never have any credibility as long as things like this are allowed to go on. Its a shame, a damn shame. Maybe if you fix this issue I'd consider actively participating on this website. But as long as anyone can come in and try and re-write/create their own history...NO WAY.
and someone ELSE can come along and change it back...u clearly didn't read my post. Do you have an answer to the question I raised? I presume you do not because I'm right. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.246.25.237 ( talk • contribs)
Recently I created an article Ghatam Udupa, a percussionist from Bangalore, Karnataka. However, I haven't been able to find the original script (possiby Kannada) for the title. Can anyone with a fair knowledge of Kannada put the original script in the article ? Thanks. -- N R S | T/ M\ B 14:26, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
Post your request here: Wikipedia:WikiProject India/Translation-- D-Boy 08:00, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
For घटम ऊडुपा, the transliteration is: ಘಟಮ್ ಊಡುಪಾ. However, "Udupa" may even be ಉಡುಪಾ for the same pronunciation as the default vowel length of "u" is higher in Kannada as compared to Hindi. — Ambuj Saxena ( talk) 13:24, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
Apparently, Agasthiya was an old prophet in Nadi astrology who lived around 3000 BC. I stumbled upon him while I was researching stuff for this odd little Japanese game titled Nostradamus ni Kiite Miro♪. Which is apparently about cute little girls being the incarnations of Nostradamus' and Agasthiya's prophecies. Apparently, he's moderately well known in Japan, but I've never heard of him (I'm American). Anyways, I'm getting confused already, so it would be nice if I could have some more information to go off so I could understand this whole Agasthiya character thing better. Even a simple stub would be nice, whatever you happen to be able to dig up. -- SeizureDog 22:08, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
I re-adjusted the table width while making the font of the stats table smaller. If it's hard to read, users may simply click "view full worklist". AQu01rius ( User • Talk) 23:10, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
Can someone put this text File:Indianamestrip.jpg into the organization name on the article? Thanks Chris 04:19, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
Can anyone with contacts in Kannada Wikipedia see into this matter. They seem to be using a fair use image kn:ಚಿತ್ರ:ಸುವರ್ಣ ಕರ್ನಾಟಕ.png in all their encyclopedia articles. The image is from NIC.IN website and is about celebration of 50 years of existence of Karnataka. Even if the image were free, I am sure such things are unwarranted. In the past, the Urdu Wikipedia was pulled up for putting Quranic verses on top of all articles. We shouldn't let that happen to one of Indian language encyclopedias. — Ambuj Saxena ( talk) 05:48, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
Have a look at Wikipedia:Meetup, this can happen in big Indian cities as well where there are multiple wikipedians. Vjdchauhan 11:13, 27 November 2006 (UTC). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vjdchauhan ( talk • contribs)
I have started two new workgroups,
WikiProject Andhra Pradesh and
WikiProject Karnataka. The banner flags are andhra=yes and karnataka=yes
respy. Please feel free to join-in and contribute. Thanks,
Ganeshk (
talk) 06:08, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
Voting on the use of indic scripts.-- D-Boy 01:21, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
Shall I attempt to merge this with Njekkad, using the Asiaweek article as a reference? Ivygohnair 14:09, 30 November 2006 (UTC) If so,I will need help to check the Malayalam spellings in the article :-) Ivygohnair 14:22, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
Hello there! A user has created the article Mair Rajputs and wikilinked to several Indian articles. We would like a member of this WikiProject to determine if this article is actually necessary. The article itself triggered a copyvio warning at Wikipedia:Suspected copyright violations, and another at the spam bot for the amount of links linked there. I deleted this article earlier today because it was blatant copyvio, but now it appears not to have that problem. Thanks. -- ReyBrujo 21:02, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
It is being suggested and stressed that all articles about historical sites in South Asia which are not in the Republic of India should be tagged using {{WP SouthAsia}} instead of {{WP India}}. {{WP India}} contains references to present day India, including but not limited to the Flag of India/ Ashoka Chakra, which represent India the country rather than the whole region. Using this tag for those sites which are not in India is deemed strongly offensive and an indirect territorial claim over the country of the site. Any article can have tags representing the country where the site is located along with {{WP SouthAsia}} to emphasize the importance of the site in the history of whole region including all countries. Szhaider 18:38, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
PS: The same suggestion is applied to the personalities with historical importance for the entire South Asia.
Hello everyone, I am involved with Out of India page and being supported by NobleEagle on that page. D-Boy also added to that support today. I strongly believe that India and Vedic history is being distorted by lots of people. I have lots of research related to this topic and I strongly believe that if this theory is presented and argued properly, would have a great impact on India and Vedic history. I am new to WP and need support in addressing POV of people against out of India theory related to Aryan. I am ticked-off about how India's history is mis-represneted and would appreciate any help I can get to address that. Thanks. Sbhushan, 03:06, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
I'm working on it in my userspace before taking it to main article. Need a lot of help on it. Bakaman Bakatalk 04:48, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
If there is anyone with an interest in or specializing in biodiversity related issues you may be interested in the google group Wiki_India_Nature which you can join by sending a blank email to Wiki_India_Nature-subscribe AT googlegroups.com The primary targets of the group are to improve information on biodiversity, a few of the works currently in progress may be seen on
....And many more The work needs people interested in doing library research, photographers and technical translators. Shyamal 05:45, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
Have a look at [2]. Many delete discussions are not justified. STTW (talk) 13:52, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
User:Szhaider makes a good point here that the flag of the Republic of India should not be affixed to the Wikiproject:India template, since the template covers subjects like Mohenjo-Daro which were never under the Republic of India. — goethean ॐ 21:52, 28 November 2006 (UTC) Well said and I agree Nadirali 03:19, 29 November 2006 (UTC)Nadirali
I think bot-assisted tagging of articles are not really a good idea, because it adds a lot of articles unrelated to the actual project. Unless people from a Wikiproject actually are working on the article, it will be wrong to do a brute-force mechanized tagging. My 2 cents. --
Ragib 22:20, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
{{WP India|history=yes}}
. This avoids the need to create seperate project banners for each workgroup. India is just a over-all root project. The maintanance of the article will be done by the respective workgroup. Regards,
Ganeshk (
talk) 22:37, 28 November 2006 (UTC)I want to know couple of things. Is there any reason why an article cannot be a part of two independent WikiProjects? If there is no such restriction, what is wrong in having both tags on the talk pages? Sarvagnya 22:40, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
Since one of the bots doing the tagging is mine, I'd like to add that I take a lot of care while selecting categories and dont include ambiguous categories. Errors are bound to happen however and anyone finding an error with the bot edits is free to remove them. — Lost (talk) 05:16, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
Since some strongly feel about this flag image, I wanted to suggest adding a parameter to the banner, "pre=yes" to denote pre-independence article. If "pre" is set to "yes", the template will morph itself to show a image "Ashoka pillar" (for example) and any links to India will link to Indian subcontinent. How does this sound? -- Ganeshk ( talk) 22:58, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
How does this look? I used the Mauryan map when pre is set to "yes". I chose this one since it loads fast. The Indian sub-contitent map is too huge. Ashoka pillar does not fit correctly. There no links to India, so nothing else (except the image) changed. Does anyone else have better image ideas? --
Ganeshk (
talk) 08:24, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
I've been asked to comment on the issue and here's what I feel>
I hope this clearly defines the jurisdiction of regional wikiprojects. If needed I can illustrate this with Venn diagrams. Regards, =Nichalp «Talk»= 11:08, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
It concerns to note that some editors here view WikiProject India as something that glorifies India. Even though we may be as patriotic as we can be personally, it only aims to expand coverage on topics with NPOV. There are no territorial disputes here. Anyone can work on any project. We are just writing an encyclopaedia! I suggest to Ganeshk that may be we could change the wordings in the WP India Template as,
This article is within the scope of WikiProject India, where its contributions would help improve the content and quality of the article and the related topic substantially. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page.
which is more neutral, instead of,
This article is within the scope of WikiProject India, which aims to improve Wikipedia's coverage of India-related topics. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page.
I feel, as we move deeper into history and as we expand our relations with other countries of the world, an inside view for any India related article would help provide a balance to that article, instead of POV. I support the move to change the image by Ganeshk. However, I should also add that the image of ashoka pillar or anything related a particular dynasty wouldn't fit the historical/future scope of the Indian subcontinent.
BTW, D-Boy, I see some overheating on a number of discussions from ur side. It would be great if you look at things at macro perspective, rather than discussing everywhere with a singular microscopic view. Consider an inside-out perspective, instead of a outside-in perspective. It is one thing to follow standards and it is another to set constructive standards (eg. implementation of small format talk headers. see: Talk:India for implementation.). I'd suggest a wikibreak. Cheers. -- Ch e z ( Discuss / Email) 02:27, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
Tamil people has been brought to FAR. Please be there and comment. Regards.-- Dwaipayan ( talk) 15:45, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
Hello. I protected this template after only a short revert-war between Szhaider and Dangerous-Boy, because it indirectly causes an edit war on dozens of pags simultanouesly. Szhaider wants it unlocked, claiming that my locking implies that I am biased. Please give an opinion as to what to do next, Blnguyen ( bananabucket) 01:34, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
Suggestions needed for Satellite Instructional Television Experiment. Please add your suggestions at the peer review. Thanks. - Aksi_great ( talk) 20:16, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
interesting discussion -- D-Boy 07:28, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
yeah, right. mighty interesting. - Aditya Kabir 16:57, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
Kingboyk and Reedy Boy have kindly developed a plugin for WP:India which makes it very easy for LostBot and Ganeshbot to tag specific workgroup related articles. LostBot is now tagging articles in Category:Politics of India and its subcats. Please keep an eye on the edits and let me know if irrelevant articles get tagged in large quantities. That may mean that a wrong category is being tagged. Thanks — Lost (talk) 15:09, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
As much as I'd love to do battle with Hkelkar and his fellow editors, I have a job and have to work.
This is the way the article Indian Buddhist Revival (now redirected, with no request for input, to a page called Dalit Buddhist Movement)looks today:[
[3]]. The page history (briefly interrupted by an editor who futily tries to protest named Pkulkani)is here:[
[4]].
The Kherlanji Massacre (which, believe me, is truly horrific by any human standard) looks like this [
[5]]. This is it's page history:[
[6]].
Hkelkar is working in concert with an Editor named Ambroodey, who was apparently called out of retirement by an editor named Dangerous Boy (or D-Boy). It appears I have a new "friend".
NinaEliza 02:54, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
NinaEliza 04:22, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
NinaEliza 04:33, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
Two of them - Surekha and Priyanka were allegedly raped before they were killed.
Nina,
If you have problems with my edits, dicuss them with me. Its no use sniping on random project talk pages...
अमेय आर्यन DaBrood © 16:52, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
Please see this post on ANI by Dmcdevit. I have blocked all the sock-accounts and Pkulkarni as the sockmaster (the latter for a month as it is a first time offence). - Aksi_great ( talk) 11:54, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
First of all let me put this straight that I have been trying extremely hard to restrain my feelings about certain editors and admins and their obviously biased actions. There is a certain editor who insists adding devangari to every imaginable article related to Pakistan and its culture and tries to Indianize articles as much as he can. Another takes refuge in personal attacks against me and my country. One flag-carrier is just an out-of-control teenager. A couple of admins are clearly taking sides with Indian bunch violating all values on which Wikipedia boasts about itself. Not even once D-Boy has been warned against his aggressive behavior against me and Pakistan-related articles. This is a shame.
Talking about template logo, the word India in today's world refers to Republic of India and calling the entire South Asia, India or Indian sub-continent is also indirect territorial claim as if the entire region is actually part of Republic of India; just temporarily separated. Term of South Asia not only covers all historical sites and personalities of both India and Pakistan but also is a neutral reference to the region. Current WP India tag is still based on POV and is no way neutral with the word of India both in the name and text, and with the Ashoka Chakra which refers to Hidnuism. WikiProject India should be restricted to Republic of India only. Szhaider 10:20, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
Wikiproject south Asia is doomed from the start as, if you remove India, no two other countries share anything common that merits that. Wikiproject South Asia is more divisive than collaborative. Secondly have you read my #Comments above? Please read it. =Nichalp «Talk»= 12:57, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
There was a request for the South Korea-India relations article in WikiProject Korea's to create list. Could anybody from WikiProject India evaluate the article for neutrality, grammar, factual consistency? Thanks. ( Wikimachine 04:21, 7 December 2006 (UTC))
Time for the periodic reminder to use proper symbols. When is somebody involved in the WikiProject:India going to take some responsibility and fix these to "km", the proper symbol? Why are India-related articles such frequent violators of the rules in this regard in the first place? Also, meters are "m" not "mtr", and the symbols are case sensitive too (i.e., "KM" is just as incorrect as "kms"). Gene Nygaard 01:27, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
I've been wasting far too much time on these problem articles. From here on out, they're jsut getting copyedit and cleanup tags and whatever else is appropriate. Maybe when half the India-related articles have them, somebody will notice and do something about the pervasive, systematic problems. Gene Nygaard 19:59, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:WikiProject_Stub_sorting/Proposals/2006/December#.7B.7BSikh-bio-stub.7D.7D.2C_Category:Sikh_religious_figures. Baka man 01:54, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
Could someone come up with suitable categories for Mile sur mera tumhara, before our anonymous friend breaks a limb reverting? :) Achitnis 10:22, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
Pls give your comments for the moving of the page Duars to Dooars at Talk:Duars. Amartyabag 11:40, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
Hello,
I was on RC Patrol last night and I ran across the article Hereditary Education Policy. This article seems heavily POV and an anon was trying to clean it up. I ended up reverting him because he took out huge chunks of the article. However, the article is definitely in need of an overhaul and cleanup from somebody who is knowledgable on the subject. Anything you guys can do to help? – Lantoka ( talk) 21:57, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
Hi Lantoka, if an article talk of a Governemnt Policy, it must refer to that particular government policy prefereably giving exact words of the government order, government cabinet decisions and so forth. All this article gives is political propoganda of the opponents of the Chief Minister of the government Mr C Rajagopalachari. There are 8 biographies of this gentleman and none of the refer to this particular policy which is called as 'Kula Kalvi Thittam' . If the writer of the article does not produce those references , I would request the Admins to remove the article as not confirming to Wiki standards of objectivity. Also, an outright abuse of Wiki is to post references which have nothing to do with the subject in question. Reference No 1 is the onesided presentation of this 'policy', if such a thing existed. References 2 to 8 and the external link have nothing to with the subject of the article. Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 161.12.7.4 ( talk • contribs)
This is with reference to Hereditary_Education_Policy.Now the Tamil Nadu government website
http://www.tn.gov.in/gorders/sed/default.htm has details only from 1997 .
http://www.tn.gov.in/government.htm .There is no information relating to legislation prior to the Computer era before 1990 in the Tamil Nadu government site this includes all legislation not just the 'Kula Kalvi Thittam' .This is true worldwide.Old legislations prior to the computer/internet era before 1985 are not easily available on the internet in most of the 200 nations will take years and cost millions to secure them and no encyclopedia does that
Further Ref 2,6,7,8 do mention 'Kula Kalvi Thittam' in the page 5 brahmin domination and 3 7 4 about the Varna system .I would all including who vandalised the page 3 here to do bring out points about as Harlowraman pointed out Positive Editing bring out points about the Rajaji's educational reforms between 1952-54 rather than negative editing blanking or deleting data.
Tametiger (
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to Tametiger: That is a lame excuse, tametiger. We are not talking of what Rajaji 'felt' ; we are talking of Government policies; all the Government orders are issued by Gazette , known to the public and publsihed in newspapers. All biographical and well-researched books refer to Government orders with date of issue, serial number and the contents. You must give reference to such books or contemporary newspaper articles which refer to the alledged government orders. Why do you give reference only to dodgy internet sites. If you cannot refer to Government orders and decisions, I think you are merely indulging in fantasies. Wiki is not a place for indulging in your fantasies. It is upto the authour of the article to support his/her points. You write "all government documents,Cabinet decisions of all policies taken prior to the Computer/internet era are not available online". This is a lame excuse not to provide documentary evidence, which means this is merely a propaganda. If you cannot refer to books or original newspaper reports of the government orders and government decisions, this article should be removed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 161.12.7.4 ( talk • contribs)
Hello every buddy,few years back i saw movie with Name "Agni" by actor Sai Kumar,does any one know abut him? i mean if any one having his pic? or details.i love to read abut him,i tryed much to look for him on net but could not,if any one can help me. in this regard.
User:khalidkhoso:khalidkhoso 13:24, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
We only have cinema and literature under 'Arts'. I believe we should have a category for Indian arts (as in paintings, drawings) and dance. If not, how do we draw attention (for peer review, for connecting articles to contributors interested in the visual and performing arts) to the numerous Indian dance articles, for example? Just wondering. Cheers, AppleJuggler 13:04, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
This page is clearly getting vandalised.I reverted it again today after there was mass deletion
1:Only 1 name needs to be used either Periyar or EVR not 2 creates confusion to readers particularly foriegners.Periyar is how he is known.He is refered as Periyar in Tamil Nadu Government.[1] University is called Periyar Universityn named after him[2] The Tamil Nadu Government refers to him as Periyar.One can verify it from the Tamil Nadu government Website http://www.tn.gov.in/pressrelease/archives/pr2004/pr170904/pr170904.htm http://www.tn.gov.in and not as EVR.
2: Periyar being likened to Hitler is potentially libellous as Hitler was responsible for millions of deaths whereas Periyar was not guilty of even one.Further no evidence or citation is given this comment.Periyar turned the offer to become the head of the Madras Presidency in 1939 after the Congress quit but he turned it down now to compare Hitler is wrong.
3:Brahmins:comments like The population of Brahmins in Tamil Nadu, which was about 10% in the 1920s, is today less than 3% as a result of persecution by EVR and his followers are strange as not even a Single Brahmin has been killed in the entire Dravidan movement. Further Rajaji,Jayalaitha and Janaki who were Chief Minsiters were Brahmins and ruled Tamil Nadu longer than any other single community and these statements are not backed by citations or evidence which are required.Jayalalitha is the head of a Dravidan Party
4: And the wording should be encyclopedic none emotional and contraversial lines like Within a span of 20 years, the Brahmins of Tamil Nadu, who had been living there for more than 2000 years, were turned into alien immigrants by the DK's propaganda. The speeches called for the elimination of Brahmins from Tamil Nadu, and the enslavement of Brahmin women. The speeches harkened back to an ancient Tamil glory, similar to Hitler's revival of ancient Germanic culture are not abcked by citations or Evidence
5:Further some blanked His Childhood and Education
Please help.Thanks Harlowraman
a.It is a pity the childhood and education section is blank. b. His name was E.V.Ramasami Naicker and periyar is the title given by his idolizing followers. Hence wherever possible E.V.Ramasami Naicker or EVR should be used. Wiki is not the place for personality cult and everyone should be known by their ordinary names. 3.Because he was a controversial character, there should be some reference to a different POV. This article is not neutral at all, since it gives the POV of his admirers only. 4. Whatever pint is made should be backed up with preferably a neutral report. Statements like He went on a pilgrimage to Varanasi to worship in the famous Siva temple. But discrimination against non-brahmins made him think rationally. He was prevented from eating in places of free-lunch because he did not appear to be a brahmin" appear to be taken out of some petty propaganda material. It is even peurile to suggest that only under discrimination one can think rationally. 5. I don't see the previous posters points 2,3,4. I don't know what is he/she talking about.
This page is clearly getting vandalised several times.It is potentially libellous.note of the allegations have any citation which I have asked for.The wording are not encyclopedic. This is not cult .1:Only 1 name needs to be used either Periyar or EVR not 2 creates confusion to readers particularly foriegners.Periyar is how he is known. Tamil Nadu Government refers to him as Periyar. http://www.tn.gov.in/government.htm.He is refered as Periyar in Tamil Nadu Government. Periyar University is called named after him and there is a river Periyar after him.Also, convention suggests that the most common name be used as far as possible in the text of the article The name Periyar is used by the The Tamil Nadu Government refers to him as Periyar.One can verify it from the Tamil Nadu government Website http://www.tn.gov.in/pressrelease/archives/pr2004/pr170904/pr170904.htm http://www.tn.gov.in and not as EVR.A search with the name Periyar will do it for you. See all actors are known by the film names not there real names for example Jayalalitha 's real name Komalavalli, Vikram's real name is John Kennedy further Joseph Stalin is known so and not as Joseph Vissarionovich Dzhugashvili .This is not cult .Also convention suggests that the most common name be used as far as possible in the text of the article.If pages were put by Komalavalli or John Kennedy .No will know them and users will not be able to reach them.Similar is the case with several of them.Now not all of them have changed there names legally. the article is there as it was http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Periyar_Ramasami before the mass deletion by user 192.223.243.6.further I am not reverting or blanking any of the edits done by others users. ( Harlowraman 07:45, 13 December 2006 (UTC)).
The name change has been effected and the article must be moved. 155.69.5.234 20:18, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
I think we need to check the Kapil Dev page. It says that he played 3099 one day international games in the table on the right. I am pretty sure he did not play that many games. And by table, I mean the second table from the top. Vignesh 06:32, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
Can someone tell what is the name of the lamp shown on the tail of this acft [9], wanted it for the table i made for Air India Express liveries. Also, can anyone identify these paintings [10]? Thanks -- PlaneMad| YakYak 09:02, 14 December 2006 (UTC)