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Could someone from Mumbai please help with an image for the Dabbawala article? Many thanks -- A Y Arktos\ talk 12:09, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
Hi! I've created a new wikiproject: Wikipedia:WikiProject India Maps to address and standardise the conventions for India-related maps. Please move all map related discussion there. =Nichalp «Talk»= 09:39, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
We've recieved a complaint about the Maneka Gandhi article ( this recent edit is possibly related). I'd appreciate it if you guys could take a look at the article (both current and previous versions), make sure it's neutral, factually accurate, add citations where needed or available, etc. Raul654 16:48, 10 June 2006 (UTC) PS - I pointed the complainant to this thread, and the complainant may be posting here, so please keep this thread here for a little while. Raul654 16:55, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
Ok, I have weedled out a more specific complaint. The complainant contends that (a) the description of the falling-out is inaccurate (I have modified the article so that it directly quotes rathter than paraphrases the telegraph article; other sources would be welcome) correction: she claims it's flatly false, and (b) that it unfairly defines her in terms of her family instead of her own accomplishments (and this, to an extent, is true; I have tried to add more of her own accomplishments to the article).
Raul654 09:38, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
Please take a look at Talk:India#Adding_Ayyavazhi and give your views. Thanks. Sukh | ਸੁਖ | Talk 20:01, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
Tony has made some strong crictisims about the prose in the IIT article. Tintin ( talk) 12:05, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
There are over 50 members in Wikipedia:WikiProject History of India, but there isn't much activity going on. Hopefully a COTW will help organize the efforts of WP:HOI members into more meaningful contributions. Any help in setting this up will be highly appreciated. deeptrivia ( talk) 02:02, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
While I am yet to take up the case of Indian freedom fighters category, I got a shock to notice Wikipedia:Categories_for_deletion/Log/2006_June_7#Women_by_nationality_and_subcategories as Category:Indian women was something widely used. If categorising in this way is foolish, so is India-bio-stub or may be even Living people. Probly we shd have an eye on CFD regularly. -- Gurubrahma 16:49, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
Is it just me or do people find the Administrators Noticeboard a bit too messy and chaotic to get your points throught, there's too many things happening at once. So I propose we create an Administrators Noticeboard for the 15 Indian Admins we currently have to assess situations directly related to Indian pages. Only 'global' situations or situations where you need a lot of input can be posted on the other Administrators noticeboard. It'll also be easier to ask for help or comment on an India-related topic, at the moment one has to either post here if its important or post on the admin's talk page. This way, all 15 admins will get to know and will be able to help out. My last reason for having such a noticeboard is simply this: why not? I would be prepared to create a WP:IAN if people agree. Nobleeagle (Talk) 05:52, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
I don't know too much about the copyright laws that operate on Wikipedia but there are a large number of sites that have images on Bhagat Singh (for example, here and about his family here. They would be helpful for the Bhagat Singh article but I don't know whether they can be used. What about film pictures from Rang De Basanti or the Legend of Bhagat Singh. How can they be used? Nobleeagle (Talk) 07:22, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
I've launched an ambitious "contest" to select suitable pictures for the India page. The rationale behind this is to get featured pictures on the India page. Please see: Talk:India/Picture selection =Nichalp «Talk»= 13:42, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
There's no such article I guess. Worse still, History of sculpture doesn't have a single line on Indian sculpture. I thought we've always been a leading sculpture-making nation right from the times of Buddha sculptures, through the period of Khajuraho and other temples to the modern times. deeptrivia ( talk) 05:20, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
Independence Day (India) is this week's Indian Colloboration of the Week. Please come and help it become a featured- standard article. - Ganeshk ( talk) 06:27, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
Hey Ram! Mahatma Gandhi faces vandalism on Wikipedia-- thunderboltza.k.a.D eepu Joseph | TALK03:19, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
Would anyone/everyone please take a look at this? At current I (a non-Indian) have absolutely no idea what the article is about, much less how to clean it up etc. Major trimming and attention is needed here. Thanks you. - CrazyRussian talk/ email 02:19, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
News and DYK sections don't seem to be updated often - this may lead to removal of featured portal status. btw, round 7 of the quiz is up and running. -- Gurubrahma 06:59, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
Hello, the WikiIndia image is a modification of the Wikimedia logo, which is not itself GFDL; so this image should not be. You may want to switch to a different logo, or make sure that you have permission to use this one. +sj + 21:58, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
Hi, I have been keeping an eye on deletion proposals, and I frequently find that peoposals are made and decisions implemented (often being "delete") within the space of a few (<24) hours. Yesterday (21 June), we has two India-related pages that were proposed and deleted before they could even be listed on WP:DSI -- Ambani school and some biography. I'm a bit concerned about the former because, although it seems to have been nearly empty, it may have been deleted in order to prevent its growing into a substantial article: read the comment of the first voter. Anything we can do to prevent recurrences? The rules seem to be clear: listings are to remain open for voting for atleast 5 days. Regards, ImpuMozhi 02:39, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
Strong object to the deletion. As a citizen of Mumbai, the school is *highly* notable. It is one of the few in India that offer the IB, and the teaching style is a different from other schools in India. =Nichalp «Talk»= 15:45, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
Hello folks! The cool, calm and wise Gurubrahma pointed me at this conversation. First off: apologies if I appeared to offend anyone on the AfD on these articles. The decision to speedy delete Dhirubhai Ambani International School, Mumbai as a CSD-A3 was not taken lightly. I never take speedy deletions lightly.
In this case, Dhirubhai Ambani International School, Mumbai was speedy deleted because it was a clear case of CSD-A3: No content whatsoever. Any article consisting only of links elsewhere (including hyperlinks, category tags and "see also" sections), a rephrasing of the title, and/or attempts to correspond with the person or group named by its title. I was on AfD Patrol at the time and acted upon the opinions of three editors who all agreed that the article failed to manage to provide any information whatsoever. The article was empty, as far as I can tell. It was brought to AfD in good faith but the editors and the closing admin (me) agreed that it fell under the existing definitions provided by the Criteria for Speedy Deletion.
It's worth remembering that a redlink to an article is more likely to produced a good, fully-fleshed new article than a poor bluelink. Faced with a redlink, people will write a new, useful article. Faced with a bluelink, anonymous and new users have a built-in reluctance to edit the article, even if it is a sub-stub with no content.
Redlinks have a useful place on Wikipedia on that basis, although Wikipedia and my own personal policy are not based upon that idea.
An article with no content therefore discourages new writers. Whilst it may be possible to turn an article with no content into an article with content, such efforts in research are time-consuming beyond measure - whilst they are being dealt with, hundreds of other articles with no content will be slipping through to fester quietly.
Asking people who contribute to Wikipedia to provide an article that asserts notability, tells the reader about the subject in question and involves more than just a repeat of the name or a URL isn't asking too much. It's easily provided - as Nichalp has proved by creating a servicable, expandable and useful stub in its place.
I can't come up with an Wikipedia rule or guideline that allows for such an article to continue to exist. It was sent to AfD and thus would normally deserve a full debate, but three editors (and the closing admin) again all agreed it was CSD-A7, so the deletion was difficult to argue against!
I'm always happy to be challenged on my decisions. I'm not an ogre, although I have the courage of my convictions! If anyone here has a problem with my deletions, please get in touch with me directly. I don't promise to undelete, but I actively campaign against the current "CSD-G4 applies to speedy deletes" nonsense that doesn't allow for a better article replacing a dud one! ➨ ЯEDVERS 20:39, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
Trouble brewing on the Talk:India page. Please comment. =Nichalp «Talk»= 09:16, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
User:Ganeshbot is currently creating missing town articles. Please watch its contributions and let me know any mistakes or malfunction. Also check User:Ganeshbot/Created, articles that the bot created, User:Ganeshbot/Not created, articles it had skipped. - Ganeshk ( talk) 18:22, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
Someone please halt the bot. It is violating the provisions of Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub Sorting. - Ambuj Saxena ( talk) 06:25, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
I stopped the bot now for sorting out an issue with a stub sorting proposal. I will start it after I propose adding missing state stub templates. Thanks Ambuj for the tip. See related discussion here. - Ganeshk ( talk) 07:04, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
FYI, I have lots of state stub templates waiting for approval here. - Ganeshk ( talk) 08:00, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
it's going to lose it's status. -- D-Boy 20:44, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
See this discussion. - Ganeshk ( talk) 19:36, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
Pls comment. -- Lost 06:04, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
Ramayana is this week's Indian Colloboration of the Week. Please come and help it become a featured- standard article. - Ganeshk ( talk) 06:19, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
Could someone with greater knowledge of Wiki formatting (particularly) with regard to tables have a look at this page and rework the text to fix it?-- Kaushik twin 16:02, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
Same goes for this list. Data copied from [1] , also see [2] PlaneMad| YakYak
The list is information. Information cannot be copyrighted. Simple. =Nichalp «Talk»= 11:11, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
Hello. Do you guys have these two articles on your watchlist? It seems that not many do, as a POV rant was left on Rajiv Gandhi for 8 hours - it was mainly some kind of angry criticism and looked like a memorial to the Tamil Tigers. Thanks, Blnguyen | rant-line 00:49, 29 June 2006 (UTC).
Speaking of lists, List of Hotel Management/Tourism colleges in India has been PRODded for automatic deletion. Anyone interested in keeping and improving the page? ImpuMozhi 02:45, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
Thought I'd point this out :)... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lostintherush ( talk • contribs)
I propose we remove the image_map tag out of the infobox so that all articles have a consistent look. This would mean customized maps on articles such as Bangalore and Kolkata would be gone. Is that okay. Please comment. - Ganeshk ( talk) 15:24, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
The article has been moved from FAR to FARC -- Lost 17:04, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
The stub templates were proposed and created. The bot is running again. Please keep a watch on its contributions. Thanks, Ganeshk ( talk) 07:49, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
Fellow Indians, Last few months has seen a deliberate attempt by some Indians and non-Indians to tarnish rajputs. This campaign is led by someone named Impumozhi who has shown utter cluelessness about rajputs. Here are certain instances of editing by Mozhi which show his lack of knowledge about the subject at hand. I am wondering what can be done about such an editor.
Impumozhi says: Read this page for a little entertainment -- in particular, the last three sentences, setting out the historical repurcussions of that hilarious (and probably fictitious) incident. Is this fit for an encyclopedia? Leave aside veracity, just the choice of words? Yet nobody dare change one comma or fullstop in that page: it is "owned" by that presiding deity of obduracy, the learned protagonist of every page with a remote "rajput" connection. |
His claim about Hada's character being funny and un-encyclopaedic is actually taken from James Tod's Annals and Antiquities page 384 and 385 Vol-II:
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Impumozhi, on rajputani page deleted the name of Maharani Gayatri Devi [4]. Then he was asked why he did so: [5].
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Certainly, these people genuinely believe what they write, even on the Hada page -- they would not know otherwise, their views being informed mainly by an execrable set of caste-glorificatory pamphlets. My views on the famous and oft-cited list of 65 reference-books is available here (please scroll to the red-lettered section towards the end of the "changes comparison"). I have previously expressed the same views, for instance here, never to any effect, and I despair of ever obtaining recourse if nothing avails me on this forum. I think it is essential that, rather than confine their final decisions to the Rajput and associated pages, the arbcom should take a broader view of the contributions-record of the protagonists, and encourage the permanent departure of those who simply are not equipped to contribute to an encyclopedia. The sad alternative is to have less belligerent, more bookish people gradually depart WP in despair and disgust. Regards, ImpuMozhi 08:52, 17 February 2006 (UTC) |
In the reference section of the current rajput page there are chapters, page numbers, publication houses and ISBNs for the books used to create the rajput page. Please click here to see them: http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Rajput&oldid=43113774#References. These books are written by eminent historians who have Phd's from universities. To claim there books are useless, without reading a single one of them is a grave insult to these learned people.
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This is a deliberate attempt at denigrating hindu rajput monarchs as chiefs, a term indicative of vassalage. If one just uses google one gets 124 hits for searching maharana pratap as a "rajput king" and 3 hits for the chief search and of these three none were talking about Pratap. One wonders why this fellow and his entire team has so much hatred for the glorious heritage of India?
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"Ruling clans of India" category is far more descriptive for the rajput clans but he just wants to insert the category that he has created himself. Look at page Sisodia'e edit history for example.
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Read here : [10] (This above was written by a muslim and mozhi and gang support this group of muslims). How does one digest this?
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Mozhi calls Shekhawats Gohil rajput [11]. This is utter non sense. Then he calls Tomar's are descendants of Pandavs and are chandravanshi too! [12]. This again is blatant nonsense as the rest of his work. All this just shows this editor is not knoweledgable about rajputs and should keep his hands off.
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What can be done about such editors? —Preceding
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This is quite convenient. You delete the comments here and your buddy deletes them from where you moved it. Is censorship and kicking of India's heritage your main aim? I can understand a swiss but an Indian? Sirohi S 08:11, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
I've listed Dhwanit's locator maps for deletion as we have effected better quality maps for usage. =Nichalp «Talk»= 14:56, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
Finally, after much hard work, Sikhism is a featured article ;) Sukh | ਸੁਖ | Talk 23:38, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
Hello. This is for the Kochi page. Could somebody familiar with Sanskrit provide an English translation for the word Go Shree. Thanks! -- thunderboltza.k.a.D eepu Joseph | TALK13:05, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
This page is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Could someone from Mumbai please help with an image for the Dabbawala article? Many thanks -- A Y Arktos\ talk 12:09, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
Hi! I've created a new wikiproject: Wikipedia:WikiProject India Maps to address and standardise the conventions for India-related maps. Please move all map related discussion there. =Nichalp «Talk»= 09:39, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
We've recieved a complaint about the Maneka Gandhi article ( this recent edit is possibly related). I'd appreciate it if you guys could take a look at the article (both current and previous versions), make sure it's neutral, factually accurate, add citations where needed or available, etc. Raul654 16:48, 10 June 2006 (UTC) PS - I pointed the complainant to this thread, and the complainant may be posting here, so please keep this thread here for a little while. Raul654 16:55, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
Ok, I have weedled out a more specific complaint. The complainant contends that (a) the description of the falling-out is inaccurate (I have modified the article so that it directly quotes rathter than paraphrases the telegraph article; other sources would be welcome) correction: she claims it's flatly false, and (b) that it unfairly defines her in terms of her family instead of her own accomplishments (and this, to an extent, is true; I have tried to add more of her own accomplishments to the article).
Raul654 09:38, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
Please take a look at Talk:India#Adding_Ayyavazhi and give your views. Thanks. Sukh | ਸੁਖ | Talk 20:01, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
Tony has made some strong crictisims about the prose in the IIT article. Tintin ( talk) 12:05, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
There are over 50 members in Wikipedia:WikiProject History of India, but there isn't much activity going on. Hopefully a COTW will help organize the efforts of WP:HOI members into more meaningful contributions. Any help in setting this up will be highly appreciated. deeptrivia ( talk) 02:02, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
While I am yet to take up the case of Indian freedom fighters category, I got a shock to notice Wikipedia:Categories_for_deletion/Log/2006_June_7#Women_by_nationality_and_subcategories as Category:Indian women was something widely used. If categorising in this way is foolish, so is India-bio-stub or may be even Living people. Probly we shd have an eye on CFD regularly. -- Gurubrahma 16:49, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
Is it just me or do people find the Administrators Noticeboard a bit too messy and chaotic to get your points throught, there's too many things happening at once. So I propose we create an Administrators Noticeboard for the 15 Indian Admins we currently have to assess situations directly related to Indian pages. Only 'global' situations or situations where you need a lot of input can be posted on the other Administrators noticeboard. It'll also be easier to ask for help or comment on an India-related topic, at the moment one has to either post here if its important or post on the admin's talk page. This way, all 15 admins will get to know and will be able to help out. My last reason for having such a noticeboard is simply this: why not? I would be prepared to create a WP:IAN if people agree. Nobleeagle (Talk) 05:52, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
I don't know too much about the copyright laws that operate on Wikipedia but there are a large number of sites that have images on Bhagat Singh (for example, here and about his family here. They would be helpful for the Bhagat Singh article but I don't know whether they can be used. What about film pictures from Rang De Basanti or the Legend of Bhagat Singh. How can they be used? Nobleeagle (Talk) 07:22, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
I've launched an ambitious "contest" to select suitable pictures for the India page. The rationale behind this is to get featured pictures on the India page. Please see: Talk:India/Picture selection =Nichalp «Talk»= 13:42, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
There's no such article I guess. Worse still, History of sculpture doesn't have a single line on Indian sculpture. I thought we've always been a leading sculpture-making nation right from the times of Buddha sculptures, through the period of Khajuraho and other temples to the modern times. deeptrivia ( talk) 05:20, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
Independence Day (India) is this week's Indian Colloboration of the Week. Please come and help it become a featured- standard article. - Ganeshk ( talk) 06:27, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
Hey Ram! Mahatma Gandhi faces vandalism on Wikipedia-- thunderboltza.k.a.D eepu Joseph | TALK03:19, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
Would anyone/everyone please take a look at this? At current I (a non-Indian) have absolutely no idea what the article is about, much less how to clean it up etc. Major trimming and attention is needed here. Thanks you. - CrazyRussian talk/ email 02:19, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
News and DYK sections don't seem to be updated often - this may lead to removal of featured portal status. btw, round 7 of the quiz is up and running. -- Gurubrahma 06:59, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
Hello, the WikiIndia image is a modification of the Wikimedia logo, which is not itself GFDL; so this image should not be. You may want to switch to a different logo, or make sure that you have permission to use this one. +sj + 21:58, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
Hi, I have been keeping an eye on deletion proposals, and I frequently find that peoposals are made and decisions implemented (often being "delete") within the space of a few (<24) hours. Yesterday (21 June), we has two India-related pages that were proposed and deleted before they could even be listed on WP:DSI -- Ambani school and some biography. I'm a bit concerned about the former because, although it seems to have been nearly empty, it may have been deleted in order to prevent its growing into a substantial article: read the comment of the first voter. Anything we can do to prevent recurrences? The rules seem to be clear: listings are to remain open for voting for atleast 5 days. Regards, ImpuMozhi 02:39, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
Strong object to the deletion. As a citizen of Mumbai, the school is *highly* notable. It is one of the few in India that offer the IB, and the teaching style is a different from other schools in India. =Nichalp «Talk»= 15:45, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
Hello folks! The cool, calm and wise Gurubrahma pointed me at this conversation. First off: apologies if I appeared to offend anyone on the AfD on these articles. The decision to speedy delete Dhirubhai Ambani International School, Mumbai as a CSD-A3 was not taken lightly. I never take speedy deletions lightly.
In this case, Dhirubhai Ambani International School, Mumbai was speedy deleted because it was a clear case of CSD-A3: No content whatsoever. Any article consisting only of links elsewhere (including hyperlinks, category tags and "see also" sections), a rephrasing of the title, and/or attempts to correspond with the person or group named by its title. I was on AfD Patrol at the time and acted upon the opinions of three editors who all agreed that the article failed to manage to provide any information whatsoever. The article was empty, as far as I can tell. It was brought to AfD in good faith but the editors and the closing admin (me) agreed that it fell under the existing definitions provided by the Criteria for Speedy Deletion.
It's worth remembering that a redlink to an article is more likely to produced a good, fully-fleshed new article than a poor bluelink. Faced with a redlink, people will write a new, useful article. Faced with a bluelink, anonymous and new users have a built-in reluctance to edit the article, even if it is a sub-stub with no content.
Redlinks have a useful place on Wikipedia on that basis, although Wikipedia and my own personal policy are not based upon that idea.
An article with no content therefore discourages new writers. Whilst it may be possible to turn an article with no content into an article with content, such efforts in research are time-consuming beyond measure - whilst they are being dealt with, hundreds of other articles with no content will be slipping through to fester quietly.
Asking people who contribute to Wikipedia to provide an article that asserts notability, tells the reader about the subject in question and involves more than just a repeat of the name or a URL isn't asking too much. It's easily provided - as Nichalp has proved by creating a servicable, expandable and useful stub in its place.
I can't come up with an Wikipedia rule or guideline that allows for such an article to continue to exist. It was sent to AfD and thus would normally deserve a full debate, but three editors (and the closing admin) again all agreed it was CSD-A7, so the deletion was difficult to argue against!
I'm always happy to be challenged on my decisions. I'm not an ogre, although I have the courage of my convictions! If anyone here has a problem with my deletions, please get in touch with me directly. I don't promise to undelete, but I actively campaign against the current "CSD-G4 applies to speedy deletes" nonsense that doesn't allow for a better article replacing a dud one! ➨ ЯEDVERS 20:39, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
Trouble brewing on the Talk:India page. Please comment. =Nichalp «Talk»= 09:16, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
User:Ganeshbot is currently creating missing town articles. Please watch its contributions and let me know any mistakes or malfunction. Also check User:Ganeshbot/Created, articles that the bot created, User:Ganeshbot/Not created, articles it had skipped. - Ganeshk ( talk) 18:22, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
Someone please halt the bot. It is violating the provisions of Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub Sorting. - Ambuj Saxena ( talk) 06:25, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
I stopped the bot now for sorting out an issue with a stub sorting proposal. I will start it after I propose adding missing state stub templates. Thanks Ambuj for the tip. See related discussion here. - Ganeshk ( talk) 07:04, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
FYI, I have lots of state stub templates waiting for approval here. - Ganeshk ( talk) 08:00, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
it's going to lose it's status. -- D-Boy 20:44, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
See this discussion. - Ganeshk ( talk) 19:36, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
Pls comment. -- Lost 06:04, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
Ramayana is this week's Indian Colloboration of the Week. Please come and help it become a featured- standard article. - Ganeshk ( talk) 06:19, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
Could someone with greater knowledge of Wiki formatting (particularly) with regard to tables have a look at this page and rework the text to fix it?-- Kaushik twin 16:02, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
Same goes for this list. Data copied from [1] , also see [2] PlaneMad| YakYak
The list is information. Information cannot be copyrighted. Simple. =Nichalp «Talk»= 11:11, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
Hello. Do you guys have these two articles on your watchlist? It seems that not many do, as a POV rant was left on Rajiv Gandhi for 8 hours - it was mainly some kind of angry criticism and looked like a memorial to the Tamil Tigers. Thanks, Blnguyen | rant-line 00:49, 29 June 2006 (UTC).
Speaking of lists, List of Hotel Management/Tourism colleges in India has been PRODded for automatic deletion. Anyone interested in keeping and improving the page? ImpuMozhi 02:45, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
Thought I'd point this out :)... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lostintherush ( talk • contribs)
I propose we remove the image_map tag out of the infobox so that all articles have a consistent look. This would mean customized maps on articles such as Bangalore and Kolkata would be gone. Is that okay. Please comment. - Ganeshk ( talk) 15:24, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
The article has been moved from FAR to FARC -- Lost 17:04, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
The stub templates were proposed and created. The bot is running again. Please keep a watch on its contributions. Thanks, Ganeshk ( talk) 07:49, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
Fellow Indians, Last few months has seen a deliberate attempt by some Indians and non-Indians to tarnish rajputs. This campaign is led by someone named Impumozhi who has shown utter cluelessness about rajputs. Here are certain instances of editing by Mozhi which show his lack of knowledge about the subject at hand. I am wondering what can be done about such an editor.
Impumozhi says: Read this page for a little entertainment -- in particular, the last three sentences, setting out the historical repurcussions of that hilarious (and probably fictitious) incident. Is this fit for an encyclopedia? Leave aside veracity, just the choice of words? Yet nobody dare change one comma or fullstop in that page: it is "owned" by that presiding deity of obduracy, the learned protagonist of every page with a remote "rajput" connection. |
His claim about Hada's character being funny and un-encyclopaedic is actually taken from James Tod's Annals and Antiquities page 384 and 385 Vol-II:
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Impumozhi, on rajputani page deleted the name of Maharani Gayatri Devi [4]. Then he was asked why he did so: [5].
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Certainly, these people genuinely believe what they write, even on the Hada page -- they would not know otherwise, their views being informed mainly by an execrable set of caste-glorificatory pamphlets. My views on the famous and oft-cited list of 65 reference-books is available here (please scroll to the red-lettered section towards the end of the "changes comparison"). I have previously expressed the same views, for instance here, never to any effect, and I despair of ever obtaining recourse if nothing avails me on this forum. I think it is essential that, rather than confine their final decisions to the Rajput and associated pages, the arbcom should take a broader view of the contributions-record of the protagonists, and encourage the permanent departure of those who simply are not equipped to contribute to an encyclopedia. The sad alternative is to have less belligerent, more bookish people gradually depart WP in despair and disgust. Regards, ImpuMozhi 08:52, 17 February 2006 (UTC) |
In the reference section of the current rajput page there are chapters, page numbers, publication houses and ISBNs for the books used to create the rajput page. Please click here to see them: http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Rajput&oldid=43113774#References. These books are written by eminent historians who have Phd's from universities. To claim there books are useless, without reading a single one of them is a grave insult to these learned people.
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This is a deliberate attempt at denigrating hindu rajput monarchs as chiefs, a term indicative of vassalage. If one just uses google one gets 124 hits for searching maharana pratap as a "rajput king" and 3 hits for the chief search and of these three none were talking about Pratap. One wonders why this fellow and his entire team has so much hatred for the glorious heritage of India?
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"Ruling clans of India" category is far more descriptive for the rajput clans but he just wants to insert the category that he has created himself. Look at page Sisodia'e edit history for example.
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Read here : [10] (This above was written by a muslim and mozhi and gang support this group of muslims). How does one digest this?
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Mozhi calls Shekhawats Gohil rajput [11]. This is utter non sense. Then he calls Tomar's are descendants of Pandavs and are chandravanshi too! [12]. This again is blatant nonsense as the rest of his work. All this just shows this editor is not knoweledgable about rajputs and should keep his hands off.
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What can be done about such editors? —Preceding
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This is quite convenient. You delete the comments here and your buddy deletes them from where you moved it. Is censorship and kicking of India's heritage your main aim? I can understand a swiss but an Indian? Sirohi S 08:11, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
I've listed Dhwanit's locator maps for deletion as we have effected better quality maps for usage. =Nichalp «Talk»= 14:56, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
Finally, after much hard work, Sikhism is a featured article ;) Sukh | ਸੁਖ | Talk 23:38, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
Hello. This is for the Kochi page. Could somebody familiar with Sanskrit provide an English translation for the word Go Shree. Thanks! -- thunderboltza.k.a.D eepu Joseph | TALK13:05, 5 July 2006 (UTC)