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Hello - cross-posting from The Teahouse: the main BBC News site is running a piece [1] on tomorrow's edit-a-thon for women, encouraging the public (i.e. BBC readers/viewers) to participate across multiple global events. Is there a need to communicate to New Page Reviewers and other edit watchers to expect more first-time editors and reinforce WP:BITE? I wasn't sure who to notify, or whether this is already widely known (or if this really will result in a flood of new editors / creators). Thanks for your guidance on next steps, if any. P.S. thanks for encouraging me to post this here, Timothyjosephwood. ‑‑ Dstone66 ⑆( talk)⑇( contribs)⑈ 21:09, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
Is there a particular reason we're apparently requiring pages accepted through AfC to also be reviewed? Seems like a pretty clear duplication of efforts/purpose. TimothyJosephWood 15:16, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
I've seen another example where pages are tagged "too quickly" in spite of the originating editor being both earnest and legitimate. I'm sorry to say that Wikipedia *is* hostile to new articles.
Please review the history of one page.
Somebody creates a page and it is tagged 'bad' after a half hour, then someone disagrees with that, then it is tagged _again_ *two* bloody minutes later! Then the original editor gets back to editing after (probably) investigating more facts, etc. Then someone *else* harasses them more by interfering with ongoing editing. Original editor doggedly continues for awhile more. Then a better editor than any of us drops by and says "a7 does not apply, and its notable by the usual standards" and fixes a few things. (BTW: notice that a quick Google of the title gets 75000 hits which _should_ give one pause to reconsider)
I recently discussed my impression of "too quick" with another editor and who agreed a problem determining what "active editing" is. Well, hey, the above history shows the editor withdrawing for research for a whole hour, and the article is tagged twice in that time.
As I said in my discussion, perhaps people would prefer a totally new editor would first produce completely correct copy in a user sandbox, but that method is not known to never-having-edited-before 新手. Note also that this editor may not have English proficiency at par to understand everything said in the big red box. So saying "but it's just a pro-forma suggestion/request/warning/plea for improvement" is not addressing the issue of how 'friendly' that box looks to new editors.
It is disturbing to me to see legitimate activities receive such greetings, and apparently because y'all are sooo motivated to clear the backlogs that even cursory checking or postponing judgement is forewent.
For your additional consideration is this simple fact. I check a few recent changes, and for a very little while. I see these things. If even a little checking finds repeated examples like this, how much of this is going on? Shenme ( talk) 07:24, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
I don't know if this is the right place to ask this, but I am going to make a bold request here to request someone here to write a reference letter for me documenting my patrol work on Wikipedia. I posted to Wikipedia talk:STiki as well. I do quite a bit of NPPs, although not as frequently as last year around the same period. Now I mainly just create and maintain articles concerning American politics and daily 30-minute huggle runs.
I need such letter to prove I actually did patrol work on Wikipedia to colleges without requiring them opening my user page or contribution page. I would be immensely appreciative of you if you write a brief letter proving my work on Wikipedia is authentic. If you are willing to provide me a letter of reference, drop me a talk message. I am again appreciative of you and your work on Wikipedia.
All I need is a simple paragraph saying I have edited for 2.5 years, 7500 times, and usually work on NPP, review, and politics-related articles.
My user check is attached here:
Ueutyi ( talk · contribs · count · logs · block log · lu · rfa · rfb · arb · rfc · lta · socks) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ueutyi ( talk • contribs) 09:37, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
Shirin Gerami was created in user space, moved to a Draft, approved under AfC and moved to mainspace ... and then needed to be Reviewed. Why? Surely AfC approval should be as strong as or stronger than Reviewing, so that leaving such an article in the New Pages Feed just wastes the time of Reviewers? I'm fairly sure I've come across another AfC product waiting to be Reviewed recently, so this isn't a one-off. Pam D 23:48, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
Doesn't it make sense to give those with Autopatrolled status the same rights accorded to Reviewers?
If you know how to write perfect articles that don't need a second pair of eyes, it goes without saying that you should be able to review others' pages. Right?
I have had autopatrolled rights for six years and I've been a new page patroller for even longer. I'd rather not apply for a redundant user right.
Am I missing something? Mark Schierbecker ( talk) 01:40, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
One reason I hate patrolling is that I always find cruft and I'm thrust into notability disputes. This sort of process is good insofar as a circulation of Wikipedia editors across the website prevents the community from fracturing into balkanized areas of content. At the same time, those articles already exist and many Wikipedia editors are motivated to contribute only if they can pursue the cruft that pleases them. You stumble upon the highway fans, or rail fans, or storm fans and have to tell them a subject isn't notable only for them to reply that some part of WP:OUTCOMES says their cruft will survive AfD and they have an entire WikiProject that agree. I'm guilty of the same thing, advocating for subject-specific notability guides even as essays, to keep content I think should be notable. NPP is a mechanism that destroys the federalism of Wikipedia but that homogenization I would think keeps this project coherent. Are you other patrollers encountering this and how do you stay motivated to get into these fights? I like writing content, not policing content. Chris Troutman ( talk) 16:26, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
I would like the advice of other reviewers on dealing with certain cruddy articles, mostly BLPs, at NPP. The articles that I have in mind are typically about medium-length articles about people, with at least one and possibly more low-quality sources (possibly the person’s own web site), containing peacock language, and often but not always in poor English, where my assessment is that the article doesn’t establish notability, but the person isn’t obviously non-notable. I can’t tag them for no context, because there is context. It isn’t so completely promotional as to survive tagging as advertising. It isn’t so hopeless as to be A7 as a non-notable person because there is a credible claim of significance, a lower barrier than actual notability. If there is at least one low-quality source, it isn’t a candidate for BLPPROD. I can PROD it, but the author is likely to remove the PROD. The problem with AFD is that there are likely to be comments that sources can be found. The problem is that the article as submitted is crud and doesn’t belong in Wikipedia, but none of the CSD criteria apply, and it is likely to survive AFD, because AFD isn’t on the article but the subject. However, as an NPP reviewer, it shouldn’t be my job to spend an hour fixing a cruddy article. I can multiply flag the article; is that what I should do? Would I be justified occasionally moving a cruddy article into draft space? I could stubbify the article, but that seems like an overreach, and might be edit-warred anyway. What should a reviewer do with medium-length cruddy BLPs that aren’t obvious candidates for any deletion process? Robert McClenon ( talk) 04:38, 27 December 2016 (UTC)
For reference, the last manual patrol by a non-NPR prior to removing patrol from autoconfirmed was of page 1987–88 Liga Bet by Franforce. GeoffreyT2000 ( talk, contribs) 05:50, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
Is it taboo to patrol pages that you create yourself? Natureium ( talk) 19:19, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
I am seeing what I think are a lot of new articles that contain only an infobox, and no article text. They are often films, concert tours, books, commercial products, or other subjects that are not subject to A7, so that I typically have to PROD them. I think that they are usually promotional in intent, but without any actual advertising they don't qualify for G11. Occasionally the author is sticking the infobox in first before adding the text, but I think that typically they are being inserted as infoboxes-only as a form of spam that is designed to sneak past the spam rules. I think that there should be a new CSD category A12, infobox-only articles (regardless of whether the infobox is properly formed or malformed). I have been discussing that at the Criteria for Speedy Deletion talk page. Comments? Robert McClenon ( talk) 03:41, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
The backlog now stands at over 16,000 and still growing. I would have thought that with over 300 new user rights created since early November, it would have been a doddle in a concentrated effort to reduce it to zero. It would only require a maximum of two hours of each Reviewers time. That would have been less than two minutes every two days for each patroller. It begs the question: Are most of the applicants for special user rights just hat collectors? Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 00:53, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
Has there been any studies as to the difference in quality between articles that ended up being unpatrolled vs articles that ended up being patrolled (after 30 days)? Although one may think that the first group should be worse off than the second group, it isn't necessarily the case. It may well be that a significant number of users when they see an article that "looks good" but isn't either "super good" don't actually patrol it because they wouldn't mind a second opinion (or don't have the right), and move on to the next. This may be repeated several times, and overall decent (but not clearly good) articles according to different users may end up unpatrolled. On the other hand, many if not most of the patrolled articles are actually problem articles that are in the process of being fixed up. My point is that a growing backlog doesn't necessarily mean that the process doesn't work, taking into account the lack of a "sounds good to me, but would like a second opinion" mechanism (that would be close to a "+1" in code review). Also we would need to look at the ratio of unpatrolled articles vs new articles to have a better sense of the reasons for it. If the backlog increases only because more articles are created than usual, this is normal. Cenarium ( talk) 16:19, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
I arrived here after looking for reasons why a page I created hasn't shown up in Google searches after over a month; the size of the backlog answers my question. For what it's worth, personally I feel that the new NPR right being such a formal undertaking actually discourages me from participating. Seeing the huge backlog, I might have been inclined to help patrol a few pages if it could be done right away; instead, seeing the amount of due process changed my mind. (Just my two cents though.) -- Paul_012 ( talk) 06:04, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
Who is managing development/fixes for the Page Curation Tool? It is locking up when it tries to notify users of deletion nominations. Since, per a current ANI thread, there is a strong consensus that authors should be notified when their pages are tagged for deletion reviewers are must perform manual notifications. So long as this bug us unaddressed Twinkle is a better tool for processing deletions (Another issue with Curation Tool is that it does not have the ability to place AfDs into basic categories so that must be done when deletion sorting is done.) This will cause Reviever's Curation Logs to be incomplete which will, in the long term, hamper efforts to review their work. If the WMF is not activly supporting the Page Curration Tool is may be worthwhile to merge its functionality into Twinkle and have Twinkle write to the Curation Log. Jbh Talk 13:19, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
I see that Joe Roe has already opened the ticket while I was writing this. Thank you Joe. Jbh Talk 16:46, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
Occasionally I see a page in the New Page list that is tagged as Under Construction, and, in its existing state, looks like it is not ready to be in article space, which is where it is. My question is whether any of the Under Construction tags should be honored, or whether I should just go ahead and PROD or AFD the article. The articles in question are not usually candidates for A7 or G11. I assume that one should be merciless with G11, that anything that is currently spam is likely to be either the same spam or reworked spam in a few hours. If something is a candidate for A7, but is tagged as under construction, should it be given a reprieve, or should I go ahead and A7 it? Robert McClenon ( talk) 02:22, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
{{
find sources}}
is your friend
- I wish I could code well enough to have a button for it on my menu.) just tagging it and explaining things to the author. Often I feel that the {{
Under construction}}
tag is used purposefully as an attempt to shield promotonal/non-notable articles from deletion.
Jbh
Talk
13:26, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
{{
find sources}}
on the talk page and not saving but your idea seems better. Thanks!
Jbh
Talk
13:44, 2 February 2017 (UTC)So I'm being a good reviewer and patrolling the oldest items first. The problem is that we have many redirects created 10 years ago that are being converted into articles so I'm finding these things only an hour after they're made. I know that's not the intent here. Is there something that could be done from a technical angle to have the queue address actual new pages instead of newly created articles from redirects? Chris Troutman ( talk) 04:46, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
Hi all,
One of my major problems in doing new page review is that I find pages that I have to skip simply because I don't have the energy and/or confidence to address them, and I'm not always sure what the best way is to handle them. I wonder whether some of you would be interested in having some kind of screen-sharing session (e.g. via Google Hangouts or Skype or Jitsi or whatever) where we spend an hour or so reviewing a good number of new pages from the back of the queue. Let me know what you think! -- Slashme ( talk) 16:03, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
Is there anything we can do about users who create many articles that are speedy deleted? Ex: User:Henrycolesmith Natureium ( talk) 20:01, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
The effort to clean up after User:Sander.v.Ginkel (by moving all his creations to Draft:, then checking them individually and moving them back) is adding a lot of pages to the queue, with the potential to add many hundreds or thousands more. Is it possible to have them autopatrolled? I couldn't find any documentation on whether autopatrolled works with moving a page from draft to mainspace. – Joe ( talk) 13:49, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
These articles often don't have suitable depth of sourcing: frequently only a player roster, so I'm tagging those with {{ template:blp sources}}. -- Slashme ( talk) 11:57, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
New Page Reviewing - Election for 2 coordinators. Nomination period is now open and will run for two weeks followed by a two-week voting period.
See: NPR Coordinators for full details.
Hi all,
In the page curation tool there is a "made by username filter". However, is there some sort of way to sort all unreviewed articles by user or sort users by number of unreviewed pages? I'm asking because I've reviewed a lot of sport-related BLP stubs which are all okay except the need for expansion and many of them use bare URLs. It would just be a quicker way to reduce the backlog by making repeated edits as such users tend to create similar articles with similar curation needs. Any ideas?
Thanks!
DrStrauss
talk
09:07, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
The text in the new tip on this page is a little misleading. I've found it rare that an admin will salt a page before its fourth creation, and "consider" should be moved to cover both admin actions (you're asking the admin to do something, not demanding, and there's nothing guaranteed). I'd suggest -
Also, I'd leave the request on the article's talk page, and a G11 CSD on the article rather than asking a particular admin to tackle the request. Asking a particular admin could create the impression of WP:ADMINSHOP otherwise. My 2¢. Cabayi ( talk) 08:22, 27 December 2016 (UTC)
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 1 | Archive 2 | Archive 3 | Archive 4 | Archive 5 | → | Archive 10 |
Hello - cross-posting from The Teahouse: the main BBC News site is running a piece [1] on tomorrow's edit-a-thon for women, encouraging the public (i.e. BBC readers/viewers) to participate across multiple global events. Is there a need to communicate to New Page Reviewers and other edit watchers to expect more first-time editors and reinforce WP:BITE? I wasn't sure who to notify, or whether this is already widely known (or if this really will result in a flood of new editors / creators). Thanks for your guidance on next steps, if any. P.S. thanks for encouraging me to post this here, Timothyjosephwood. ‑‑ Dstone66 ⑆( talk)⑇( contribs)⑈ 21:09, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
Is there a particular reason we're apparently requiring pages accepted through AfC to also be reviewed? Seems like a pretty clear duplication of efforts/purpose. TimothyJosephWood 15:16, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
I've seen another example where pages are tagged "too quickly" in spite of the originating editor being both earnest and legitimate. I'm sorry to say that Wikipedia *is* hostile to new articles.
Please review the history of one page.
Somebody creates a page and it is tagged 'bad' after a half hour, then someone disagrees with that, then it is tagged _again_ *two* bloody minutes later! Then the original editor gets back to editing after (probably) investigating more facts, etc. Then someone *else* harasses them more by interfering with ongoing editing. Original editor doggedly continues for awhile more. Then a better editor than any of us drops by and says "a7 does not apply, and its notable by the usual standards" and fixes a few things. (BTW: notice that a quick Google of the title gets 75000 hits which _should_ give one pause to reconsider)
I recently discussed my impression of "too quick" with another editor and who agreed a problem determining what "active editing" is. Well, hey, the above history shows the editor withdrawing for research for a whole hour, and the article is tagged twice in that time.
As I said in my discussion, perhaps people would prefer a totally new editor would first produce completely correct copy in a user sandbox, but that method is not known to never-having-edited-before 新手. Note also that this editor may not have English proficiency at par to understand everything said in the big red box. So saying "but it's just a pro-forma suggestion/request/warning/plea for improvement" is not addressing the issue of how 'friendly' that box looks to new editors.
It is disturbing to me to see legitimate activities receive such greetings, and apparently because y'all are sooo motivated to clear the backlogs that even cursory checking or postponing judgement is forewent.
For your additional consideration is this simple fact. I check a few recent changes, and for a very little while. I see these things. If even a little checking finds repeated examples like this, how much of this is going on? Shenme ( talk) 07:24, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
I don't know if this is the right place to ask this, but I am going to make a bold request here to request someone here to write a reference letter for me documenting my patrol work on Wikipedia. I posted to Wikipedia talk:STiki as well. I do quite a bit of NPPs, although not as frequently as last year around the same period. Now I mainly just create and maintain articles concerning American politics and daily 30-minute huggle runs.
I need such letter to prove I actually did patrol work on Wikipedia to colleges without requiring them opening my user page or contribution page. I would be immensely appreciative of you if you write a brief letter proving my work on Wikipedia is authentic. If you are willing to provide me a letter of reference, drop me a talk message. I am again appreciative of you and your work on Wikipedia.
All I need is a simple paragraph saying I have edited for 2.5 years, 7500 times, and usually work on NPP, review, and politics-related articles.
My user check is attached here:
Ueutyi ( talk · contribs · count · logs · block log · lu · rfa · rfb · arb · rfc · lta · socks) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ueutyi ( talk • contribs) 09:37, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
Shirin Gerami was created in user space, moved to a Draft, approved under AfC and moved to mainspace ... and then needed to be Reviewed. Why? Surely AfC approval should be as strong as or stronger than Reviewing, so that leaving such an article in the New Pages Feed just wastes the time of Reviewers? I'm fairly sure I've come across another AfC product waiting to be Reviewed recently, so this isn't a one-off. Pam D 23:48, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
Doesn't it make sense to give those with Autopatrolled status the same rights accorded to Reviewers?
If you know how to write perfect articles that don't need a second pair of eyes, it goes without saying that you should be able to review others' pages. Right?
I have had autopatrolled rights for six years and I've been a new page patroller for even longer. I'd rather not apply for a redundant user right.
Am I missing something? Mark Schierbecker ( talk) 01:40, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
One reason I hate patrolling is that I always find cruft and I'm thrust into notability disputes. This sort of process is good insofar as a circulation of Wikipedia editors across the website prevents the community from fracturing into balkanized areas of content. At the same time, those articles already exist and many Wikipedia editors are motivated to contribute only if they can pursue the cruft that pleases them. You stumble upon the highway fans, or rail fans, or storm fans and have to tell them a subject isn't notable only for them to reply that some part of WP:OUTCOMES says their cruft will survive AfD and they have an entire WikiProject that agree. I'm guilty of the same thing, advocating for subject-specific notability guides even as essays, to keep content I think should be notable. NPP is a mechanism that destroys the federalism of Wikipedia but that homogenization I would think keeps this project coherent. Are you other patrollers encountering this and how do you stay motivated to get into these fights? I like writing content, not policing content. Chris Troutman ( talk) 16:26, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
I would like the advice of other reviewers on dealing with certain cruddy articles, mostly BLPs, at NPP. The articles that I have in mind are typically about medium-length articles about people, with at least one and possibly more low-quality sources (possibly the person’s own web site), containing peacock language, and often but not always in poor English, where my assessment is that the article doesn’t establish notability, but the person isn’t obviously non-notable. I can’t tag them for no context, because there is context. It isn’t so completely promotional as to survive tagging as advertising. It isn’t so hopeless as to be A7 as a non-notable person because there is a credible claim of significance, a lower barrier than actual notability. If there is at least one low-quality source, it isn’t a candidate for BLPPROD. I can PROD it, but the author is likely to remove the PROD. The problem with AFD is that there are likely to be comments that sources can be found. The problem is that the article as submitted is crud and doesn’t belong in Wikipedia, but none of the CSD criteria apply, and it is likely to survive AFD, because AFD isn’t on the article but the subject. However, as an NPP reviewer, it shouldn’t be my job to spend an hour fixing a cruddy article. I can multiply flag the article; is that what I should do? Would I be justified occasionally moving a cruddy article into draft space? I could stubbify the article, but that seems like an overreach, and might be edit-warred anyway. What should a reviewer do with medium-length cruddy BLPs that aren’t obvious candidates for any deletion process? Robert McClenon ( talk) 04:38, 27 December 2016 (UTC)
For reference, the last manual patrol by a non-NPR prior to removing patrol from autoconfirmed was of page 1987–88 Liga Bet by Franforce. GeoffreyT2000 ( talk, contribs) 05:50, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
Is it taboo to patrol pages that you create yourself? Natureium ( talk) 19:19, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
I am seeing what I think are a lot of new articles that contain only an infobox, and no article text. They are often films, concert tours, books, commercial products, or other subjects that are not subject to A7, so that I typically have to PROD them. I think that they are usually promotional in intent, but without any actual advertising they don't qualify for G11. Occasionally the author is sticking the infobox in first before adding the text, but I think that typically they are being inserted as infoboxes-only as a form of spam that is designed to sneak past the spam rules. I think that there should be a new CSD category A12, infobox-only articles (regardless of whether the infobox is properly formed or malformed). I have been discussing that at the Criteria for Speedy Deletion talk page. Comments? Robert McClenon ( talk) 03:41, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
The backlog now stands at over 16,000 and still growing. I would have thought that with over 300 new user rights created since early November, it would have been a doddle in a concentrated effort to reduce it to zero. It would only require a maximum of two hours of each Reviewers time. That would have been less than two minutes every two days for each patroller. It begs the question: Are most of the applicants for special user rights just hat collectors? Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 00:53, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
Has there been any studies as to the difference in quality between articles that ended up being unpatrolled vs articles that ended up being patrolled (after 30 days)? Although one may think that the first group should be worse off than the second group, it isn't necessarily the case. It may well be that a significant number of users when they see an article that "looks good" but isn't either "super good" don't actually patrol it because they wouldn't mind a second opinion (or don't have the right), and move on to the next. This may be repeated several times, and overall decent (but not clearly good) articles according to different users may end up unpatrolled. On the other hand, many if not most of the patrolled articles are actually problem articles that are in the process of being fixed up. My point is that a growing backlog doesn't necessarily mean that the process doesn't work, taking into account the lack of a "sounds good to me, but would like a second opinion" mechanism (that would be close to a "+1" in code review). Also we would need to look at the ratio of unpatrolled articles vs new articles to have a better sense of the reasons for it. If the backlog increases only because more articles are created than usual, this is normal. Cenarium ( talk) 16:19, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
I arrived here after looking for reasons why a page I created hasn't shown up in Google searches after over a month; the size of the backlog answers my question. For what it's worth, personally I feel that the new NPR right being such a formal undertaking actually discourages me from participating. Seeing the huge backlog, I might have been inclined to help patrol a few pages if it could be done right away; instead, seeing the amount of due process changed my mind. (Just my two cents though.) -- Paul_012 ( talk) 06:04, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
Who is managing development/fixes for the Page Curation Tool? It is locking up when it tries to notify users of deletion nominations. Since, per a current ANI thread, there is a strong consensus that authors should be notified when their pages are tagged for deletion reviewers are must perform manual notifications. So long as this bug us unaddressed Twinkle is a better tool for processing deletions (Another issue with Curation Tool is that it does not have the ability to place AfDs into basic categories so that must be done when deletion sorting is done.) This will cause Reviever's Curation Logs to be incomplete which will, in the long term, hamper efforts to review their work. If the WMF is not activly supporting the Page Curration Tool is may be worthwhile to merge its functionality into Twinkle and have Twinkle write to the Curation Log. Jbh Talk 13:19, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
I see that Joe Roe has already opened the ticket while I was writing this. Thank you Joe. Jbh Talk 16:46, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
Occasionally I see a page in the New Page list that is tagged as Under Construction, and, in its existing state, looks like it is not ready to be in article space, which is where it is. My question is whether any of the Under Construction tags should be honored, or whether I should just go ahead and PROD or AFD the article. The articles in question are not usually candidates for A7 or G11. I assume that one should be merciless with G11, that anything that is currently spam is likely to be either the same spam or reworked spam in a few hours. If something is a candidate for A7, but is tagged as under construction, should it be given a reprieve, or should I go ahead and A7 it? Robert McClenon ( talk) 02:22, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
{{
find sources}}
is your friend
- I wish I could code well enough to have a button for it on my menu.) just tagging it and explaining things to the author. Often I feel that the {{
Under construction}}
tag is used purposefully as an attempt to shield promotonal/non-notable articles from deletion.
Jbh
Talk
13:26, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
{{
find sources}}
on the talk page and not saving but your idea seems better. Thanks!
Jbh
Talk
13:44, 2 February 2017 (UTC)So I'm being a good reviewer and patrolling the oldest items first. The problem is that we have many redirects created 10 years ago that are being converted into articles so I'm finding these things only an hour after they're made. I know that's not the intent here. Is there something that could be done from a technical angle to have the queue address actual new pages instead of newly created articles from redirects? Chris Troutman ( talk) 04:46, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
Hi all,
One of my major problems in doing new page review is that I find pages that I have to skip simply because I don't have the energy and/or confidence to address them, and I'm not always sure what the best way is to handle them. I wonder whether some of you would be interested in having some kind of screen-sharing session (e.g. via Google Hangouts or Skype or Jitsi or whatever) where we spend an hour or so reviewing a good number of new pages from the back of the queue. Let me know what you think! -- Slashme ( talk) 16:03, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
Is there anything we can do about users who create many articles that are speedy deleted? Ex: User:Henrycolesmith Natureium ( talk) 20:01, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
The effort to clean up after User:Sander.v.Ginkel (by moving all his creations to Draft:, then checking them individually and moving them back) is adding a lot of pages to the queue, with the potential to add many hundreds or thousands more. Is it possible to have them autopatrolled? I couldn't find any documentation on whether autopatrolled works with moving a page from draft to mainspace. – Joe ( talk) 13:49, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
These articles often don't have suitable depth of sourcing: frequently only a player roster, so I'm tagging those with {{ template:blp sources}}. -- Slashme ( talk) 11:57, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
New Page Reviewing - Election for 2 coordinators. Nomination period is now open and will run for two weeks followed by a two-week voting period.
See: NPR Coordinators for full details.
Hi all,
In the page curation tool there is a "made by username filter". However, is there some sort of way to sort all unreviewed articles by user or sort users by number of unreviewed pages? I'm asking because I've reviewed a lot of sport-related BLP stubs which are all okay except the need for expansion and many of them use bare URLs. It would just be a quicker way to reduce the backlog by making repeated edits as such users tend to create similar articles with similar curation needs. Any ideas?
Thanks!
DrStrauss
talk
09:07, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
The text in the new tip on this page is a little misleading. I've found it rare that an admin will salt a page before its fourth creation, and "consider" should be moved to cover both admin actions (you're asking the admin to do something, not demanding, and there's nothing guaranteed). I'd suggest -
Also, I'd leave the request on the article's talk page, and a G11 CSD on the article rather than asking a particular admin to tackle the request. Asking a particular admin could create the impression of WP:ADMINSHOP otherwise. My 2¢. Cabayi ( talk) 08:22, 27 December 2016 (UTC)