IMPORTANT: Please read Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (Chinese)/NPOV#..of China or ..of the PRC → ..of mainland China for discussion taken place. Please read the articles listed here before you cast a vote.
This is not a debate on the naming conventions, but its enforcement. Do not vote against the moves because you do not agree with the naming conventions. If you do want to comment on the current naming conventions, please do so at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (Chinese).
The list below is not a full list. If you think there is any article, template or category missing, nominate them.
The moves do not apply to some articles and categories, such as the followings.
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Please vote using this format: #~~~~ - Optional comments.
Like Wikipedia:Requested moves, a >50% majority is needed for a move to be passed. The poll will be closed 30 days from today (12:40, Apr 9, 2005 (UTC)), or 7 days after the last vote is cast, whichever the earlier.
Extended commentary should be placed below, in the section marked "Discussion" or "Comments". — Insta ntnood 12:40, Apr 9, 2005 (UTC)
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Communications in mainland China
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Cinema of mainland China
Votes: 3
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Economy of mainland China
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Education in mainland China
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Environment of mainland China
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Human rights in mainland China
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Media in mainland China
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Trademark law of mainland China
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Reform of the political divisions of mainland China
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Tourism in mainland China
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Transportation in mainland China
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Internet in mainland China
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Internet censorship in mainland China
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Category:Airports of mainland China
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Category:Banks of mainland China
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Category:Newspapers of mainland China
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Category:Companies of mainland China
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Category:Law enforcement in mainland China
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Category:Laws of mainland China
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category:Roads and expressways in mainland China
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category:Transportation in mainland China
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category:Universities in mainland China
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category:Museums in mainland China
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category:Cities in mainland China
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Again Instantnood is running a poll to get what he wants when the lsst discussion ran out just weeks ago. This poll was only announced on less than ten user pages for 25 or so articles See the original announced list. It wasn't announced on Requested Moves, it wasn't announced on VfD or CfD. It wasn't announced on the talk pages of the articles to be moved! It wasn't announced on my user page and I created many of these categories. I oppose every single move here without reading them all. I vehemently oppose the term "mainland China" in the title of any article or category. SchmuckyTheCat 14:29, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but I see absolutely no merit in this poll. It's goes to into pointless detail and it seems to be about fairly uncontroversial issue. Is there any consensus for this initiative? Peter Isotalo 15:09, Apr 9, 2005 (UTC)
I am quite disturbed by the existance of this page. Do all previous debates arguing against the convention come to nought? Are previous rounds of votes which had already been carried out for some of these mentioned categories and articles now invalid? And worse, is the above an attempt by its creater to get what he wants once and for all, after so much controversy which has gone on since he appeared in this site?-- Huaiwei 15:24, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)
This is getting silly. The least controversial way of dealing with any naming controversy is to make the article mainly about mainland China (which is about 90% of the article) and have annotations and links to Taiwan, Hong Kong, and Macao as special cases when appropriate. The reason for this is that it means that the screaming occurs in the articles themselves rather in the naming of the article. This is much less disruptive, and it allows one to tailor the article to fit the specific situation (which might change).
I should also point out that this issue doesn't fit political lines. Mahbaba and I come from completely different sides of the political spectrum, but we seem to be in agreement about how the articles should be named.
I should also point out that this great renaming becomes silly if you actual go and *read* some of the articles which have been extensively modified to take into account different points of view. For example, the article Economy of China is a stub that then goes into different articles.
Roadrunner 16:55, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)
IMPORTANT: Please read Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (Chinese)/NPOV#..of China or ..of the PRC → ..of mainland China for discussion taken place. Please read the articles listed here before you cast a vote.
This is not a debate on the naming conventions, but its enforcement. Do not vote against the moves because you do not agree with the naming conventions. If you do want to comment on the current naming conventions, please do so at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (Chinese).
The list below is not a full list. If you think there is any article, template or category missing, nominate them.
The moves do not apply to some articles and categories, such as the followings.
Articles
Categories
Please vote using this format: #~~~~ - Optional comments.
Like Wikipedia:Requested moves, a >50% majority is needed for a move to be passed. The poll will be closed 30 days from today (12:40, Apr 9, 2005 (UTC)), or 7 days after the last vote is cast, whichever the earlier.
Extended commentary should be placed below, in the section marked "Discussion" or "Comments". — Insta ntnood 12:40, Apr 9, 2005 (UTC)
Move to
Communications in mainland China
Votes: 4
Support: 50%
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Comments
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Move to
Cinema of mainland China
Votes: 3
Support: 67%
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Comments
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Move to
Economy of mainland China
Votes: 4
Support: 50%
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Comments
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Move to
Education in mainland China
Votes: 4
Support: 50%
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Move to
Environment of mainland China
Votes: 4
Support: 50%
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Human rights in mainland China
Votes: 3
Support: 33%
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Move to
Media in mainland China
Votes: 4
Support: 50%
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Trademark law of mainland China
Votes: 1
Support: 100%
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Reform of the political divisions of mainland China
Votes: 3
Support: 33%
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Move to
Tourism in mainland China
Votes: 3
Support: 33%
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Move to
Transportation in mainland China
Votes: 4
Support: 50%
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Move to
Internet in mainland China
Votes: 4
Support: 50%
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Internet censorship in mainland China
Votes: 4
Support: 50%
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Category:Airports of mainland China
Votes: 3
Support: 33%
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Category:Banks of mainland China
Votes: 3
Support: 33%
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Category:Newspapers of mainland China
Votes: 4
Support: 50%
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Category:Media in mainland China
Votes: 4
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Category:Companies of mainland China
Votes: 3
Support: 33%
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Category:Law enforcement in mainland China
Votes: 4
Support: 25%
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Category:Laws of mainland China
Votes: 3
Support: 33%
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category:Roads and expressways in mainland China
Votes: 2
Support: 100%
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category:Transportation in mainland China
Votes: 3
Support: 33%
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category:Universities in mainland China
Votes: 3
Support: 33%
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category:Museums in mainland China
Votes: 3
Support: 33%
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category:Cities in mainland China
Votes: 3
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Again Instantnood is running a poll to get what he wants when the lsst discussion ran out just weeks ago. This poll was only announced on less than ten user pages for 25 or so articles See the original announced list. It wasn't announced on Requested Moves, it wasn't announced on VfD or CfD. It wasn't announced on the talk pages of the articles to be moved! It wasn't announced on my user page and I created many of these categories. I oppose every single move here without reading them all. I vehemently oppose the term "mainland China" in the title of any article or category. SchmuckyTheCat 14:29, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but I see absolutely no merit in this poll. It's goes to into pointless detail and it seems to be about fairly uncontroversial issue. Is there any consensus for this initiative? Peter Isotalo 15:09, Apr 9, 2005 (UTC)
I am quite disturbed by the existance of this page. Do all previous debates arguing against the convention come to nought? Are previous rounds of votes which had already been carried out for some of these mentioned categories and articles now invalid? And worse, is the above an attempt by its creater to get what he wants once and for all, after so much controversy which has gone on since he appeared in this site?-- Huaiwei 15:24, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)
This is getting silly. The least controversial way of dealing with any naming controversy is to make the article mainly about mainland China (which is about 90% of the article) and have annotations and links to Taiwan, Hong Kong, and Macao as special cases when appropriate. The reason for this is that it means that the screaming occurs in the articles themselves rather in the naming of the article. This is much less disruptive, and it allows one to tailor the article to fit the specific situation (which might change).
I should also point out that this issue doesn't fit political lines. Mahbaba and I come from completely different sides of the political spectrum, but we seem to be in agreement about how the articles should be named.
I should also point out that this great renaming becomes silly if you actual go and *read* some of the articles which have been extensively modified to take into account different points of view. For example, the article Economy of China is a stub that then goes into different articles.
Roadrunner 16:55, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)