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I've created a welcome template using MotD. You can see it here. It is a slightly modified version of this. Let me know what you think, everyone, and tell me if I should make any changes. I expect you all to use this now! ~~ Hi878 (Come shout at me!) 05:35, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
Adding an MOTD section to the Wikipedia:Community portal would be really great. What say?-- Forty two Thanks for all the fish! 01:56, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
Yep \o/ it seems to be a good idea! – pjoef ( talk • contribs) 11:32, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
This has been proposed more than once and opposed by a few. I've even proposed WT:Community portal#Some suggestions very recently and it looks like its going nowhere. Simply south ( talk) 14:20, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
I was going to post this idea straight in the specials section, but a quick search in the archive has shown this had a one-off appearance. As such, it might not be approved, so I thought I would post the idea here first for some general consensus.
My idea is to have a 12 days of Christmas motto for each of the 12 days, starting on 25th December, and running through to 12th night (January the 5th, I think it is). Each day, we add one more line, until we have the entire song. There are two ways of doing it. One would be to have the original words, but with some linking to it:
and a
Partridge in a Pear Tree
The other way would be to rewrite the words according to what takes our fancy. What's wrong with a little pastiche? ;-)
I haven't written them all (didn't think it would be worth it until there was concensus), but I did think that WP:5P would do as a link for Five Golden Rings.
If this idea goes down well, I would suggest we then write it between ourselves... let's make this a truly collaborative motto! Stephen! Coming... 16:35, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
It looks like the general consensus is to go with it, so I have taken the liberty of setting up a new section for each day (plus the opening line) and will place it in the Special nomination sections in a bit. I suggest (for the purposes of KISS) that each section only deals with one line; this is in bold at the top of each section, just below the section header. To nominate a line, you use the Edit 1, Edit 2 as would normally be done. I'll add a couple to show you what I mean.
Once all the lines are agreed, then the whole song can be merged together and added to the schedule on the appropriate days, and in the correct format.
I should add that although I am being bold, I am not being presumptuous. I accept that this may still not run, or that some of the days might be replaced by a more appropriate quote for that day. Stephen! Coming... 12:43, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
First of all, instead of arguing about all of this there, I think we should figure out how we are going to do this on this page, because more people see it. :) Second, I like this idea, and although I preferred the second idea, this works too. However, there isn't much to comment on yet, because nothing is linked, so... If people agree that we should discuss this here instead, I think that we should move the whole set of nominations for this to this section, and then start commenting, adding links, etc. here. ~~ Hi878 (Come shout at me!) 00:14, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
Can i just point out one flaw in this? They can't work on some days as there are already mottos there, even at least one that was another special nom. Simply south ( talk) 00:42, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
There are several possible formats. The one I favour myself is:
Three
French Hens
Two Turtle Doves
And a Partridge in a Pear Tree
(I have put in wikilinks to WP:WP just for demonstration purposes.) The features I think are best are:
Then perhaps on the Twelfth Day, we could link every line. How does this sound? -- Smaug123 ( talk) 21:44, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
Is it possible to discuss format, set of links and other issues on the Special Nominations Page? – pjoef ( talk • contribs) 17:06, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
Due to the fact that this has been almost completely ignored since the proposal was made, I want everyone to know that if this hasn't been figured out and scheduled by the twentieth, I am going to move all of the mottos that have been scheduled later than they normally would be up so that the schedule is filled. I will leave Christmas day blank when I do this, however, for obvious reasons. I also would like everyone to know that my new-found opposal to this thing is not influencing this; I am just trying to make sure that we won;t suddenly have a slew of days without mottos. ~~ Hi878 (Come shout at me!) 02:08, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
And of course, if anyone objects to this, please tell me so. ~~ Hi878 (Come shout at me!) 02:00, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
This didn't get enough discussion in the "Suggested Changes" discussion, so I'm going to discuss it here.
The idea is this: Remove the "Decisions" section from the
Nominations page. People who go there would want to see things that they could discuss, not things that have already been closed and added to the schedule (or not) and that they cannot do anything about. I see no point in keeping it there. Thoughts? ~~
Hi878
(Come shout at me!)
02:16, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
Oppose ~ Decisions has its own page, it is embedded into and a subpage of Nominations, and serves its purpose well. Sorry, but I can't see any reason for removing it from the Nominations main page. – pjoef ( talk • contribs) 10:01, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
Agree with pjoef. Kayau Voting IS evil HI AGAIN 05:46, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
First of all, this isn't me coming back early. I'm still probably going to be gone for another month, but I noticed a problem that was so worrying that I have to jump in and comment, despite the fact that I'm "avoiding Wikipedia" for a while. There are only five more days of mottos, and then we will run out. Have fun, everybody; I'm sorry that I'm not going to be able to help with this one. ~~ Hi878 (Come shout at me!) 18:09, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
We are at the end of the schedule. Are you all really going to keep pulling me out of my break to say this? ~~ Hi878 (Come shout at me!) 23:37, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
OK, it looks like this is the time for a mechanism for emergencies to be developed. This issue lacked attention last summer, when the MOTD was at its peak. I again propose a set of lower-quality mottos reserved for emergencies. Or we could do repeats of the very best ones. Thoughts? Kayau Voting IS evil 02:43, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
Like I said above, normally a message is sent to everyone involved which normally relieves the crisis so getting participation. I have been busy again and have not been able to get round to it. If I seem to be the only one to do it, I can only send the message Sunday evening. Maybe we can have a random motto from a previous day? Difficultly north ( talk) 00:31, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
Above proposed by OlEnglish.
Like oe's, this one has been proposed before. Kayau Voting IS evil 12:17, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
And if this discussion doesn't work out, we could keep using ( This space for rent.) Simply south.... .. 19:34, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
Above proposed by pjoef.
An ad hoc template or page with something like "MOTD NEEDS YOU!/YOU CAN HELP"... and the link to MOTD's participants page/section. (Of course, I think we need to work harder) – pjoef ( talk • contribs) 11:44, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
I have created a page ( Wikipedia:Motto of the day/Nominations/Emergencies) with some emergency considered mottos in the archives. Simply south.... .. trying to improve for 5 years 15:01, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
Its time to close that one but I can't decide on which one has the best consensus. Maybe could i ask if either someone else decide or can everyone just pick one? Simply south.... .. eating shoes for 5 years 20:50, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
I know I have brought this up before, but I feel it necessary to bring it up again, seeing as it was never discussed. Is it really necessary to keep the decisions on the main nominations page, or can we remove it? I don't think that people going to that page would want to see a section full of a bunch of nominations that they can't do anything about; they would just want to see those that they could comment on. Really, it is just taking up a rather large amount of space. Would anyone object to the particular section's removal? ~~ Hi878 (Come shout at me!) 17:00, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
And, knowing how ignored this page is, I'll wait two weeks (unless several people unanimously don't mind), and if nobody has objected (or commented at all), I'll remove it. ~~ Hi878 (Come shout at me!) 17:04, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
Due to the overwhelming consensus that has appeared in this discussion, I shall remove the section from the page. ~~ Hi878 (Come shout at me!) 18:31, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
This page is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
I've created a welcome template using MotD. You can see it here. It is a slightly modified version of this. Let me know what you think, everyone, and tell me if I should make any changes. I expect you all to use this now! ~~ Hi878 (Come shout at me!) 05:35, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
Adding an MOTD section to the Wikipedia:Community portal would be really great. What say?-- Forty two Thanks for all the fish! 01:56, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
Yep \o/ it seems to be a good idea! – pjoef ( talk • contribs) 11:32, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
This has been proposed more than once and opposed by a few. I've even proposed WT:Community portal#Some suggestions very recently and it looks like its going nowhere. Simply south ( talk) 14:20, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
I was going to post this idea straight in the specials section, but a quick search in the archive has shown this had a one-off appearance. As such, it might not be approved, so I thought I would post the idea here first for some general consensus.
My idea is to have a 12 days of Christmas motto for each of the 12 days, starting on 25th December, and running through to 12th night (January the 5th, I think it is). Each day, we add one more line, until we have the entire song. There are two ways of doing it. One would be to have the original words, but with some linking to it:
and a
Partridge in a Pear Tree
The other way would be to rewrite the words according to what takes our fancy. What's wrong with a little pastiche? ;-)
I haven't written them all (didn't think it would be worth it until there was concensus), but I did think that WP:5P would do as a link for Five Golden Rings.
If this idea goes down well, I would suggest we then write it between ourselves... let's make this a truly collaborative motto! Stephen! Coming... 16:35, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
It looks like the general consensus is to go with it, so I have taken the liberty of setting up a new section for each day (plus the opening line) and will place it in the Special nomination sections in a bit. I suggest (for the purposes of KISS) that each section only deals with one line; this is in bold at the top of each section, just below the section header. To nominate a line, you use the Edit 1, Edit 2 as would normally be done. I'll add a couple to show you what I mean.
Once all the lines are agreed, then the whole song can be merged together and added to the schedule on the appropriate days, and in the correct format.
I should add that although I am being bold, I am not being presumptuous. I accept that this may still not run, or that some of the days might be replaced by a more appropriate quote for that day. Stephen! Coming... 12:43, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
First of all, instead of arguing about all of this there, I think we should figure out how we are going to do this on this page, because more people see it. :) Second, I like this idea, and although I preferred the second idea, this works too. However, there isn't much to comment on yet, because nothing is linked, so... If people agree that we should discuss this here instead, I think that we should move the whole set of nominations for this to this section, and then start commenting, adding links, etc. here. ~~ Hi878 (Come shout at me!) 00:14, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
Can i just point out one flaw in this? They can't work on some days as there are already mottos there, even at least one that was another special nom. Simply south ( talk) 00:42, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
There are several possible formats. The one I favour myself is:
Three
French Hens
Two Turtle Doves
And a Partridge in a Pear Tree
(I have put in wikilinks to WP:WP just for demonstration purposes.) The features I think are best are:
Then perhaps on the Twelfth Day, we could link every line. How does this sound? -- Smaug123 ( talk) 21:44, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
Is it possible to discuss format, set of links and other issues on the Special Nominations Page? – pjoef ( talk • contribs) 17:06, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
Due to the fact that this has been almost completely ignored since the proposal was made, I want everyone to know that if this hasn't been figured out and scheduled by the twentieth, I am going to move all of the mottos that have been scheduled later than they normally would be up so that the schedule is filled. I will leave Christmas day blank when I do this, however, for obvious reasons. I also would like everyone to know that my new-found opposal to this thing is not influencing this; I am just trying to make sure that we won;t suddenly have a slew of days without mottos. ~~ Hi878 (Come shout at me!) 02:08, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
And of course, if anyone objects to this, please tell me so. ~~ Hi878 (Come shout at me!) 02:00, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
This didn't get enough discussion in the "Suggested Changes" discussion, so I'm going to discuss it here.
The idea is this: Remove the "Decisions" section from the
Nominations page. People who go there would want to see things that they could discuss, not things that have already been closed and added to the schedule (or not) and that they cannot do anything about. I see no point in keeping it there. Thoughts? ~~
Hi878
(Come shout at me!)
02:16, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
Oppose ~ Decisions has its own page, it is embedded into and a subpage of Nominations, and serves its purpose well. Sorry, but I can't see any reason for removing it from the Nominations main page. – pjoef ( talk • contribs) 10:01, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
Agree with pjoef. Kayau Voting IS evil HI AGAIN 05:46, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
First of all, this isn't me coming back early. I'm still probably going to be gone for another month, but I noticed a problem that was so worrying that I have to jump in and comment, despite the fact that I'm "avoiding Wikipedia" for a while. There are only five more days of mottos, and then we will run out. Have fun, everybody; I'm sorry that I'm not going to be able to help with this one. ~~ Hi878 (Come shout at me!) 18:09, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
We are at the end of the schedule. Are you all really going to keep pulling me out of my break to say this? ~~ Hi878 (Come shout at me!) 23:37, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
OK, it looks like this is the time for a mechanism for emergencies to be developed. This issue lacked attention last summer, when the MOTD was at its peak. I again propose a set of lower-quality mottos reserved for emergencies. Or we could do repeats of the very best ones. Thoughts? Kayau Voting IS evil 02:43, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
Like I said above, normally a message is sent to everyone involved which normally relieves the crisis so getting participation. I have been busy again and have not been able to get round to it. If I seem to be the only one to do it, I can only send the message Sunday evening. Maybe we can have a random motto from a previous day? Difficultly north ( talk) 00:31, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
Above proposed by OlEnglish.
Like oe's, this one has been proposed before. Kayau Voting IS evil 12:17, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
And if this discussion doesn't work out, we could keep using ( This space for rent.) Simply south.... .. 19:34, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
Above proposed by pjoef.
An ad hoc template or page with something like "MOTD NEEDS YOU!/YOU CAN HELP"... and the link to MOTD's participants page/section. (Of course, I think we need to work harder) – pjoef ( talk • contribs) 11:44, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
I have created a page ( Wikipedia:Motto of the day/Nominations/Emergencies) with some emergency considered mottos in the archives. Simply south.... .. trying to improve for 5 years 15:01, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
Its time to close that one but I can't decide on which one has the best consensus. Maybe could i ask if either someone else decide or can everyone just pick one? Simply south.... .. eating shoes for 5 years 20:50, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
I know I have brought this up before, but I feel it necessary to bring it up again, seeing as it was never discussed. Is it really necessary to keep the decisions on the main nominations page, or can we remove it? I don't think that people going to that page would want to see a section full of a bunch of nominations that they can't do anything about; they would just want to see those that they could comment on. Really, it is just taking up a rather large amount of space. Would anyone object to the particular section's removal? ~~ Hi878 (Come shout at me!) 17:00, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
And, knowing how ignored this page is, I'll wait two weeks (unless several people unanimously don't mind), and if nobody has objected (or commented at all), I'll remove it. ~~ Hi878 (Come shout at me!) 17:04, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
Due to the overwhelming consensus that has appeared in this discussion, I shall remove the section from the page. ~~ Hi878 (Come shout at me!) 18:31, 5 August 2011 (UTC)