This page is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
I was just wondering why most of the mediation committee has yet to comment on Karmafist's nomination. I'll like to support him as an outside user, but I'm hoping the committee will take a look at the comment revised comment I made there.
Ac
e
tic
'
Acid
22:41, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
Is there a formal process for removing a mediator, or are these positions permanant, and without the communities ability to alter? I think it is important that User:Ed Poor not be placed in a position of mediation, for many, many reasons, not the least of which being his unfortunate involvement here. I would hope the line can be drawn at those who actively pursue conflict and mistrust. Sam Spade 18:30, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
I think his involvement @ Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_mediation/Sam_Spade_and_Exploding_Boy was unhelpful, particularly the taking credit after he was asked not to be involved. Sam Spade 12:29, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
I created the wiki-bable like template for you. Enjoy. :P -- Cool Cat Talk 17:40, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
Hello all, I am disappointed with the methodology used for a decision, and would ask you to change it for future potential members of the MC. Regardless of this, I wish to help resolve conflicts in any way I can when I see them and i'm a neutral party to the dispute. Therefore, I'm using the term "Independent Mediator", without linking to the Medcom page. If this is considered inflammatory due any potential confusion with the Mediation Committee or the Mediation Committee's potentially sole use of the word Mediation within Wikipedia, please let me know and offer another suggestion and I will change it. Karmafist 03:22, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
I'm not commenting directly on any of this, but it is my understanding from the mailing list that the single-oppose veto has been done away with. Other mediators, am I correct in this? -- Essjay · Talk 05:56, 6 November 2005 (UTC)
Wow, Wikipedia even has its own laws, court system and government! But all three can be edited by anyone... Previous unsigned comments by Fuzzform. Flcelloguy ( A note?) 00:40, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
Oh, a single oppose? No problem: Karmafist, you'd be MOST welcome at the mediation cabal, the system which actually works, and does real dispute resolution work at all levels. <innocent look> Kim Bruning 03:34, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
The arbitration committee has assigned Maoririder a mentorship. We didn't work out the details, though - we would appreciate it if you guys could do that. Raul654 19:51, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
I hereby tender my resignation from the Mediation Committee effective immediately. -- Essjay · Talk 16:57, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
Essjay will certainly be missed: I am sorry to return to find him gone. For entirely other reasons, I tender my resignation also, having been an MC member for a year without even successfully convincing my two cats to stop biting each other. My involvement at WP has taken a serious hit from a serious ramp-up in work responsibilities, and therefore I can't be trusted to stick around long enough to mediate a dispute to its end, even if I did feel remotely competent. I am grateful for the trust shown me by those who voted me in, and am sorry to have disappointed them. I will do what I can, as always, to informally defuse arguments whenever I encounter them, and if I should ever have time and energy again in my life to take on Wiki-mediation, I will prostrate myself before you all as a nominee once more. My very best wishes to you all, and if I can be of help in an unofficial capacity, please do give a shout my way. Yours Incompetently, Jwrosenzweig 22:19, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
:( Redwolf24 ( talk) 03:20, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
Indeed. Ral315 (talk) 03:01, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
I see that the acting chair, Redwolf24, has gone on indef. break. The actual chair, MGM, is also on break. I resigned from the committee prior to my departure last month, and I don't have any intention of getting back into actual mediation, but if the committee needs someone to take over assigning cases (as Red did) I would be happy to serve in that capacity until such time as Red or MGM returns, or a new chair is elected. --
Essjay ·
Talk 21:44, 3 January 2006 (UTC) With Red's break over, offer withdrawn. —
Essjay ·
Talk
01:42, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
Salutations. I have placed a request for the title of mediator on the project page, and I noticed that no one has made any votes or comments regarding it. Could someone tell me why no one is longer voting? Perhaps the process is inactive as of late? - MegamanZero| Talk 05:04, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
Redwolf24 suggested to me shortly after my return that I should vote on some of the candidates that were up for mediatior; I declined due to my resignation from the committee. However, it popped back to my head recently, and I thought I would bring it up here: Is it acceptable for former mediators to comment (under the mediator section, obviously, as anyone may comment in the general section) on new requests, and if so, should the chair consider thier "votes" when promoting? Further, should any of us really be listed as "former" rather than "inactive" mediators, since we are subject to being recalled in certain situations (similar to the individuals who have been recently deputized to fill in during periods of high activity)? What do others think? -- Essjay · Talk 04:58, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
Just noting it here; Red asked me to return to the committee, even if only inactive, as I might wish to be active in the future. After considering it for quite a while, I've gone ahead and moved myself back into the "inactive" category, but I'm not intending to take any actual mediations until I've had more of a chance to get settled back into Wikipedia. (I've been gone for almost two months; I wasn't doing anything more than checking messages all thru November, and I was gone all of December.) Just wanted to leave a note explaining why my name was back under "inactive"; if anyone feels it is out-of-process, put me back under "former" and I'll reapply sometime in the future if I feel the call. -- Essjay · Talk 11:40, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
I would like to call election for the next chair. It seems uncool to me to have the actual chair pretty much absent, and given the change in atmosphere brought by the recent Arbcom elections and people moving around, it might be a good idea to put forth the question as to who is willing to serve as chair. -- Improv 00:38, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
I've started the mailing list vote. If anyone still isn't on the mailing list, feel free to vote here. As far as I know, members who have volunteered themselves for chair are:
— Asbestos | Talk (RFC) 14:23, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
I have posted Alternative Dispute Resolution as a proposed group at Wikipedia:Wikiproject/List_of_proposed_projects#Alternative_Dispute Resolution. The project would improve/create articles in the main namespace relating to negotiation, conciliation, facilitation, arbitration and other alternatives to litigation. I thought the users at medCom might be interested. Lets see if it gains sufficient participatants and go from there.-- Edivorce 17:32, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
I ask the members of the Mediation Committee a question. I am currently working on a very massive change to how the dispute resoution is done as well as how Wikipedia functions. I want to make an Appeals board (for use of a better name), that would resolve issues before they go to the Arbitration Committee as well as help enforce there (arbcom's) rulings. Earlier, when I sought to make a higher group it didn't work, but my goal would be reached with either proposal. Now back to the idea: The board would have nine members, three selected by the Arbcom, five selected by the public (users) and one selected by Jimbo. They would each serve six-month terms (I can always change this) and would require a simple majority to make a descision. I feel that I must recieve your advise, because you deal with disputes all the time. So I ask for your comments, good or bad. Thank you for your time, ;) Wiki eZach 01:15, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
I've updated the section, Essjay is now chair. -- Dante Alighieri | Talk 19:36, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
This page is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
I was just wondering why most of the mediation committee has yet to comment on Karmafist's nomination. I'll like to support him as an outside user, but I'm hoping the committee will take a look at the comment revised comment I made there.
Ac
e
tic
'
Acid
22:41, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
Is there a formal process for removing a mediator, or are these positions permanant, and without the communities ability to alter? I think it is important that User:Ed Poor not be placed in a position of mediation, for many, many reasons, not the least of which being his unfortunate involvement here. I would hope the line can be drawn at those who actively pursue conflict and mistrust. Sam Spade 18:30, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
I think his involvement @ Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_mediation/Sam_Spade_and_Exploding_Boy was unhelpful, particularly the taking credit after he was asked not to be involved. Sam Spade 12:29, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
I created the wiki-bable like template for you. Enjoy. :P -- Cool Cat Talk 17:40, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
Hello all, I am disappointed with the methodology used for a decision, and would ask you to change it for future potential members of the MC. Regardless of this, I wish to help resolve conflicts in any way I can when I see them and i'm a neutral party to the dispute. Therefore, I'm using the term "Independent Mediator", without linking to the Medcom page. If this is considered inflammatory due any potential confusion with the Mediation Committee or the Mediation Committee's potentially sole use of the word Mediation within Wikipedia, please let me know and offer another suggestion and I will change it. Karmafist 03:22, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
I'm not commenting directly on any of this, but it is my understanding from the mailing list that the single-oppose veto has been done away with. Other mediators, am I correct in this? -- Essjay · Talk 05:56, 6 November 2005 (UTC)
Wow, Wikipedia even has its own laws, court system and government! But all three can be edited by anyone... Previous unsigned comments by Fuzzform. Flcelloguy ( A note?) 00:40, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
Oh, a single oppose? No problem: Karmafist, you'd be MOST welcome at the mediation cabal, the system which actually works, and does real dispute resolution work at all levels. <innocent look> Kim Bruning 03:34, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
The arbitration committee has assigned Maoririder a mentorship. We didn't work out the details, though - we would appreciate it if you guys could do that. Raul654 19:51, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
I hereby tender my resignation from the Mediation Committee effective immediately. -- Essjay · Talk 16:57, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
Essjay will certainly be missed: I am sorry to return to find him gone. For entirely other reasons, I tender my resignation also, having been an MC member for a year without even successfully convincing my two cats to stop biting each other. My involvement at WP has taken a serious hit from a serious ramp-up in work responsibilities, and therefore I can't be trusted to stick around long enough to mediate a dispute to its end, even if I did feel remotely competent. I am grateful for the trust shown me by those who voted me in, and am sorry to have disappointed them. I will do what I can, as always, to informally defuse arguments whenever I encounter them, and if I should ever have time and energy again in my life to take on Wiki-mediation, I will prostrate myself before you all as a nominee once more. My very best wishes to you all, and if I can be of help in an unofficial capacity, please do give a shout my way. Yours Incompetently, Jwrosenzweig 22:19, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
:( Redwolf24 ( talk) 03:20, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
Indeed. Ral315 (talk) 03:01, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
I see that the acting chair, Redwolf24, has gone on indef. break. The actual chair, MGM, is also on break. I resigned from the committee prior to my departure last month, and I don't have any intention of getting back into actual mediation, but if the committee needs someone to take over assigning cases (as Red did) I would be happy to serve in that capacity until such time as Red or MGM returns, or a new chair is elected. --
Essjay ·
Talk 21:44, 3 January 2006 (UTC) With Red's break over, offer withdrawn. —
Essjay ·
Talk
01:42, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
Salutations. I have placed a request for the title of mediator on the project page, and I noticed that no one has made any votes or comments regarding it. Could someone tell me why no one is longer voting? Perhaps the process is inactive as of late? - MegamanZero| Talk 05:04, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
Redwolf24 suggested to me shortly after my return that I should vote on some of the candidates that were up for mediatior; I declined due to my resignation from the committee. However, it popped back to my head recently, and I thought I would bring it up here: Is it acceptable for former mediators to comment (under the mediator section, obviously, as anyone may comment in the general section) on new requests, and if so, should the chair consider thier "votes" when promoting? Further, should any of us really be listed as "former" rather than "inactive" mediators, since we are subject to being recalled in certain situations (similar to the individuals who have been recently deputized to fill in during periods of high activity)? What do others think? -- Essjay · Talk 04:58, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
Just noting it here; Red asked me to return to the committee, even if only inactive, as I might wish to be active in the future. After considering it for quite a while, I've gone ahead and moved myself back into the "inactive" category, but I'm not intending to take any actual mediations until I've had more of a chance to get settled back into Wikipedia. (I've been gone for almost two months; I wasn't doing anything more than checking messages all thru November, and I was gone all of December.) Just wanted to leave a note explaining why my name was back under "inactive"; if anyone feels it is out-of-process, put me back under "former" and I'll reapply sometime in the future if I feel the call. -- Essjay · Talk 11:40, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
I would like to call election for the next chair. It seems uncool to me to have the actual chair pretty much absent, and given the change in atmosphere brought by the recent Arbcom elections and people moving around, it might be a good idea to put forth the question as to who is willing to serve as chair. -- Improv 00:38, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
I've started the mailing list vote. If anyone still isn't on the mailing list, feel free to vote here. As far as I know, members who have volunteered themselves for chair are:
— Asbestos | Talk (RFC) 14:23, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
I have posted Alternative Dispute Resolution as a proposed group at Wikipedia:Wikiproject/List_of_proposed_projects#Alternative_Dispute Resolution. The project would improve/create articles in the main namespace relating to negotiation, conciliation, facilitation, arbitration and other alternatives to litigation. I thought the users at medCom might be interested. Lets see if it gains sufficient participatants and go from there.-- Edivorce 17:32, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
I ask the members of the Mediation Committee a question. I am currently working on a very massive change to how the dispute resoution is done as well as how Wikipedia functions. I want to make an Appeals board (for use of a better name), that would resolve issues before they go to the Arbitration Committee as well as help enforce there (arbcom's) rulings. Earlier, when I sought to make a higher group it didn't work, but my goal would be reached with either proposal. Now back to the idea: The board would have nine members, three selected by the Arbcom, five selected by the public (users) and one selected by Jimbo. They would each serve six-month terms (I can always change this) and would require a simple majority to make a descision. I feel that I must recieve your advise, because you deal with disputes all the time. So I ask for your comments, good or bad. Thank you for your time, ;) Wiki eZach 01:15, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
I've updated the section, Essjay is now chair. -- Dante Alighieri | Talk 19:36, 7 February 2006 (UTC)