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I'm not yet decided on this proposal, but I was wondering what those in its favour suggest are done with articles dedicated to trivia, such as List of trivia lists. BigBlueFish 14:37, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
I've renamed the proposal, as some of the oppose votes were b/c of the misleading title. Btw, when did this ever become a poll? Anyway, let the discussion continue. -- Osbus 21:23, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
I agree with this proposal in general, as I strongly advocate eliminating such sections altogether. However, I can support this mild proposal for now, pending stronger wording in some future proposal stating that trivia sections should be deleted on sight. Nevertheless, the current policy skirts one of the major problems with trivia sections: The facts in them are almost never sourced as required by WP:CITE. Perhaps a stern warning could be added to the proposal regarding the absolute necessity of providing a source if you don't want your random fact about Napoleon's cat removed from the article. — BrianSmithson 14:35, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
Today I put this proposal into action with the article on
ER (TV series). I made two edits which decimated the trivia section of that article by moving the information from the trivia section into other sections of the text. If you wish, you may use that article as an example. There is still a trivia section in the article, however, it is greatly reduced from appoximately 20 items down to 5.
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Lady Aleena
talk/
contribs
21:05, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
Recently I've been moving trivia sections in their entirity to the talk page, and calling for anyone there to help integrate it into the article. Is this a good way to handle the problem? -- Digital Watches! 05:26, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
Is wikipedia pro or con with Trivia? TKGB 02:31, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
There should be a guideline on this page saying that many trivia's that can't be integrated to the article, instead of being deleted, can be added into a "Notes" section; one such example can be seen in here. Michaelas10 ( T| C) 23:28, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
I have started a debate at Template talk:Toomuchtrivia regarding whether the templates should be renamed, as per WP:AVTRIV guidelines. -- tgheretford ( talk) 00:02, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
I've used the template a few times, and people just remove it without any comment on either the talk page or in their edit summaries. I guess people love those irrelevant trivia lists. What are we supposed to do? I'm going to go back to the bear article and try to fix it, but I expect that my hard work will be reverted by people who think that lists are the proper way to organize an article. Is there any recourse? What can be done about this? Mr Spunky Toffee 23:31, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
I just got rid of the lists of trivia by incorporating the info into the article, removing a few irrelevant things, and turning lists into paragraphs. I wonder how long it will take for someone to revert my work. I hope no one does, and I hope this method will work to get rid of trivia and pop culture lists. Mr Spunky Toffee 01:27, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
I love to get rid of trivia lists - merge the important items into the mainline sections, junk the rest - and I label my edit summaries as "Death to trivia sections!" That intimidates a few I hope ... Wasted Time R 01:44, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
I almost put it in the article.... The ikiroid ( talk· desk· Advise me) 22:33, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
Can you guys rein in User:L0b0t? He's agressively removing trivia sections from at least one article despite objections from editors of the page, and making no effort to actually integrate the text of the section into the article. Plus it's a new article ( 2006 World Series) we just haven't had time to make it very refined yet, but the section contains some useful information. Is this the way this guideline is intended to be used, to remove content from articles against the wishes of active editors of those articles? -- W.marsh 23:34, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
I've noticed a few sectstub tags in trivia sections, which essentially goes against this guideline. I was wondering if we can do two things: run a bot to remove expansion tags from trivia sections; and add a small, polite proscription to the trivia and related expansion guidelines (?) asking editors to refrain from tagging trivia sections for expansion. — Viriditas | Talk 00:43, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
![]() | This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 1 | Archive 2 | Archive 3 | → | Archive 5 |
I'm not yet decided on this proposal, but I was wondering what those in its favour suggest are done with articles dedicated to trivia, such as List of trivia lists. BigBlueFish 14:37, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
I've renamed the proposal, as some of the oppose votes were b/c of the misleading title. Btw, when did this ever become a poll? Anyway, let the discussion continue. -- Osbus 21:23, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
I agree with this proposal in general, as I strongly advocate eliminating such sections altogether. However, I can support this mild proposal for now, pending stronger wording in some future proposal stating that trivia sections should be deleted on sight. Nevertheless, the current policy skirts one of the major problems with trivia sections: The facts in them are almost never sourced as required by WP:CITE. Perhaps a stern warning could be added to the proposal regarding the absolute necessity of providing a source if you don't want your random fact about Napoleon's cat removed from the article. — BrianSmithson 14:35, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
Today I put this proposal into action with the article on
ER (TV series). I made two edits which decimated the trivia section of that article by moving the information from the trivia section into other sections of the text. If you wish, you may use that article as an example. There is still a trivia section in the article, however, it is greatly reduced from appoximately 20 items down to 5.
—
Lady Aleena
talk/
contribs
21:05, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
Recently I've been moving trivia sections in their entirity to the talk page, and calling for anyone there to help integrate it into the article. Is this a good way to handle the problem? -- Digital Watches! 05:26, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
Is wikipedia pro or con with Trivia? TKGB 02:31, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
There should be a guideline on this page saying that many trivia's that can't be integrated to the article, instead of being deleted, can be added into a "Notes" section; one such example can be seen in here. Michaelas10 ( T| C) 23:28, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
I have started a debate at Template talk:Toomuchtrivia regarding whether the templates should be renamed, as per WP:AVTRIV guidelines. -- tgheretford ( talk) 00:02, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
I've used the template a few times, and people just remove it without any comment on either the talk page or in their edit summaries. I guess people love those irrelevant trivia lists. What are we supposed to do? I'm going to go back to the bear article and try to fix it, but I expect that my hard work will be reverted by people who think that lists are the proper way to organize an article. Is there any recourse? What can be done about this? Mr Spunky Toffee 23:31, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
I just got rid of the lists of trivia by incorporating the info into the article, removing a few irrelevant things, and turning lists into paragraphs. I wonder how long it will take for someone to revert my work. I hope no one does, and I hope this method will work to get rid of trivia and pop culture lists. Mr Spunky Toffee 01:27, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
I love to get rid of trivia lists - merge the important items into the mainline sections, junk the rest - and I label my edit summaries as "Death to trivia sections!" That intimidates a few I hope ... Wasted Time R 01:44, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
I almost put it in the article.... The ikiroid ( talk· desk· Advise me) 22:33, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
Can you guys rein in User:L0b0t? He's agressively removing trivia sections from at least one article despite objections from editors of the page, and making no effort to actually integrate the text of the section into the article. Plus it's a new article ( 2006 World Series) we just haven't had time to make it very refined yet, but the section contains some useful information. Is this the way this guideline is intended to be used, to remove content from articles against the wishes of active editors of those articles? -- W.marsh 23:34, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
I've noticed a few sectstub tags in trivia sections, which essentially goes against this guideline. I was wondering if we can do two things: run a bot to remove expansion tags from trivia sections; and add a small, polite proscription to the trivia and related expansion guidelines (?) asking editors to refrain from tagging trivia sections for expansion. — Viriditas | Talk 00:43, 16 November 2006 (UTC)