Regarding the Special Exhibitions section: this content is constantly changing. I believe it would make more sense to make a general statement about the Museum's exhibition program like we've done here and then link to the PMA site list of current exhibitions. Does that seem acceptable? As a PMA employee, I will refrain from making these kinds of edits to the PMA article without input from other GLAM/PMA contributors. Boite-en-Valise ( talk) 18:52, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
I removed "to create a proper gallery of PMA images at Commons" from the aims for now. The problems are: 1) Commons galleries are a bit of a plague in my view, especially when they have the same name as the main category, as then a search takes you to the gallery not the category, and I'm sure 80%+ of our readers never realize the category is there. If a gallery page is done it should be called something else, & not hog the main term. 2) The PMA images currently are loads of paintings, mostly in the usual poor Yorck Project etc reproductions, but very little indeed from the many other strong areas of the collection. So at present a gallery can't give a balanced view of the collection.
Has the museum considered a release of some of their images of 3D stuff? It doesn't have to be as big as the Walters. Johnbod ( talk) 21:47, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
Yes, we would like the article to reflect a more balanced view of the collection. We will investigate copyright concerns and release our images for those objects already listed (if possible) and for any objects we wish to write articles on (and hopefully have someone include in the PMA article!). The selection of these objects may take some time internally, but we can prioritize those objects with stub articles or those without quality images. What's the best way to single those out? Boite-en-Valise ( talk) 15:35, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
but decided that this is a better place for it.
whooops Einar aka Carptrash ( talk) 15:31, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
I noticed that we don't seem to have an article on the " Athenaeum portrait of George Washington" by Gilbert Stuart (perhaps under another name?) of which the PMA has one of about 130 copies made by Stuart. This is the "dollar bill" portrait, and has mentions of a paragraph or so in about 4 articles. We do have a Lansdowne portrait article (hanging in the White House). Would a full article on this be relevant and of interest to anybody to work on?
Smallbones ( talk) 17:57, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
I copy edited and got everything but #2. What's the story here - are there ancient objects? At worst it needs a good source to explain what's going on. Smallbones ( talk) 02:18, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
Does anyone here have any COI objections, to my directly editing the Notable Holdings? I don't think the van Doesburg that was just added belongs there, and, if it must stay, it needs to have the correct title. Boite-en-Valise ( talk) 14:02, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
Object resources: PMA Publications--anyone can access a list of objects on the PMA site that are web published and included in the Handbook by going here and clicking "sample objects from this publication." We've published the object write-ups from the book on our site as well, so if you can't get a copy, you can still read about the objects on their individual pages. This project covered a number of PMA publications, any publication that has a "sample objects..." link on it also has object write-ups.
Object resources: videos--see the Museum's YouTube channel for all the published video by the Museum.
History--The history published on the Museum's site was developed with the PMA archives, and it would be a good place to start for writing a history section in the main PMA article.
History/Building/Architecture
Architecture
Other--I will look into resources on the Museum not published by the Museum to help improve the main PMA article. This is still our "top" priority at the moment. I will do the same for the Rodin Museum; this is another top priority for us internally. Boite-en-Valise ( talk) 14:45, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
Rodin Museum: History/Building/Collections
Rodin Museum: Collections
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To use the template, place this tag on the article's talk page: {{WikiProject Philadelphia Museum of Art|class= |importance= }}
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Importance is subjective to each project, and should help us decide which articles to work on first. Before we get too far with article tagging, we should develop some guidelines for determining the importance of an article to this project. There's a good example of importance guidelines here.
As a suggestion, we might decide that the objects in the Museum's handbook that are Stub class should be Top importance for improving, while Start class or higher articles would be High importance.
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Here is a new article structure along with some PMA online resources that might be used to gather initial information. The History was written with the help of our Archivist from primary sources such Board Meeting Minutes and Annual Reports. These can be independently accessed here on site or with JStor.
1. Overview 2. History
3. Building/Architecture
4. Collections
5. Exhibitions (possibly?)
6. Research (possibly?)
7. Education (possibly?)
8. Relationship to Philadelphia
Boite-en-Valise ( talk) 14:06, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
So I'm confused about why this was moved? There was already a section on Organization, haphazardly put together by me a while back. I replaced it with a more thought-out version. Do such revisions have to go at the bottom? Sorry, still new to this. Boite-en-Valise ( talk) 17:53, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
Hi GLAM PMA folks! I wanted to update you about some recent events related to our fantastic Museum. I met Jessica Milby, PMA Collections Information Project Manager, at Wikimania in July. Jessica was looking for ways to improve articles on Wikipedia about the Museum and its artists/collections. We followed up a few weeks later at the Perelman Building in downtown Philadelphia where we discussed ways to increase participation in the GLAM/PMA project.
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It's exciting to have a partner in Jessica Milby and there should be a lot of good work coming out the collaboration within the next 3-6 months. Please stop by the GLAM/PMA project page and leave your thoughts. What ideas do you have? How can we move forward on the above projects? I Hope you're all well. Cheers! Ocaasi 19:02, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
As I only became a fan of the museum through watching Andrea Fraser's "Museum Highlights", I put the template on her talk page. Would it be possible to release bits of her presentation in small video segments on Wiki Commons? I think that would be a great way to introduce the building and at the same time show how the museum mixes the old with the new. Looking over your project page, you should make a list of all pages that actually link to the museum today, and then tag those, plus make a list of articles you think *should* link to the museum, and finally the articles you wish would be created. It's easier to improve and clean up than make new stuff, but a short list of wanted biography articles would be a good place to start. You may want to take a look at the WP:Teylers challenge pages for the odd descrepancy between what we thought we wanted vs what we got, which ended up being so much better. Jane ( talk) 19:47, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
I'm going to request that the articles under this project be indexed with the popular pages tool. Cool? Ocaasi t | c 19:08, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
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Regarding the Special Exhibitions section: this content is constantly changing. I believe it would make more sense to make a general statement about the Museum's exhibition program like we've done here and then link to the PMA site list of current exhibitions. Does that seem acceptable? As a PMA employee, I will refrain from making these kinds of edits to the PMA article without input from other GLAM/PMA contributors. Boite-en-Valise ( talk) 18:52, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
I removed "to create a proper gallery of PMA images at Commons" from the aims for now. The problems are: 1) Commons galleries are a bit of a plague in my view, especially when they have the same name as the main category, as then a search takes you to the gallery not the category, and I'm sure 80%+ of our readers never realize the category is there. If a gallery page is done it should be called something else, & not hog the main term. 2) The PMA images currently are loads of paintings, mostly in the usual poor Yorck Project etc reproductions, but very little indeed from the many other strong areas of the collection. So at present a gallery can't give a balanced view of the collection.
Has the museum considered a release of some of their images of 3D stuff? It doesn't have to be as big as the Walters. Johnbod ( talk) 21:47, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
Yes, we would like the article to reflect a more balanced view of the collection. We will investigate copyright concerns and release our images for those objects already listed (if possible) and for any objects we wish to write articles on (and hopefully have someone include in the PMA article!). The selection of these objects may take some time internally, but we can prioritize those objects with stub articles or those without quality images. What's the best way to single those out? Boite-en-Valise ( talk) 15:35, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
but decided that this is a better place for it.
whooops Einar aka Carptrash ( talk) 15:31, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
I noticed that we don't seem to have an article on the " Athenaeum portrait of George Washington" by Gilbert Stuart (perhaps under another name?) of which the PMA has one of about 130 copies made by Stuart. This is the "dollar bill" portrait, and has mentions of a paragraph or so in about 4 articles. We do have a Lansdowne portrait article (hanging in the White House). Would a full article on this be relevant and of interest to anybody to work on?
Smallbones ( talk) 17:57, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
I copy edited and got everything but #2. What's the story here - are there ancient objects? At worst it needs a good source to explain what's going on. Smallbones ( talk) 02:18, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
Does anyone here have any COI objections, to my directly editing the Notable Holdings? I don't think the van Doesburg that was just added belongs there, and, if it must stay, it needs to have the correct title. Boite-en-Valise ( talk) 14:02, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
Object resources: PMA Publications--anyone can access a list of objects on the PMA site that are web published and included in the Handbook by going here and clicking "sample objects from this publication." We've published the object write-ups from the book on our site as well, so if you can't get a copy, you can still read about the objects on their individual pages. This project covered a number of PMA publications, any publication that has a "sample objects..." link on it also has object write-ups.
Object resources: videos--see the Museum's YouTube channel for all the published video by the Museum.
History--The history published on the Museum's site was developed with the PMA archives, and it would be a good place to start for writing a history section in the main PMA article.
History/Building/Architecture
Architecture
Other--I will look into resources on the Museum not published by the Museum to help improve the main PMA article. This is still our "top" priority at the moment. I will do the same for the Rodin Museum; this is another top priority for us internally. Boite-en-Valise ( talk) 14:45, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
Rodin Museum: History/Building/Collections
Rodin Museum: Collections
The article talk page template and associated categories have been created. See Talk:The Gross Clinic and Talk:Philadelphia Museum of Art for examples of use.
To use the template, place this tag on the article's talk page: {{WikiProject Philadelphia Museum of Art|class= |importance= }}
Quality (Class): The Wikipedia grading scheme assigns articles to classes by quality. See the guidelines here.
Importance is subjective to each project, and should help us decide which articles to work on first. Before we get too far with article tagging, we should develop some guidelines for determining the importance of an article to this project. There's a good example of importance guidelines here.
As a suggestion, we might decide that the objects in the Museum's handbook that are Stub class should be Top importance for improving, while Start class or higher articles would be High importance.
The assessment matrix on the project page will update automatically every three days or so. To update the matrix manually, go to http://toolserver.org/~enwp10/bin/update.fcgi and choose "Philadelphia Museum of Art-related" from the drop-down list. - PKM ( talk) 01:45, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
Here is a new article structure along with some PMA online resources that might be used to gather initial information. The History was written with the help of our Archivist from primary sources such Board Meeting Minutes and Annual Reports. These can be independently accessed here on site or with JStor.
1. Overview 2. History
3. Building/Architecture
4. Collections
5. Exhibitions (possibly?)
6. Research (possibly?)
7. Education (possibly?)
8. Relationship to Philadelphia
Boite-en-Valise ( talk) 14:06, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
So I'm confused about why this was moved? There was already a section on Organization, haphazardly put together by me a while back. I replaced it with a more thought-out version. Do such revisions have to go at the bottom? Sorry, still new to this. Boite-en-Valise ( talk) 17:53, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
Hi GLAM PMA folks! I wanted to update you about some recent events related to our fantastic Museum. I met Jessica Milby, PMA Collections Information Project Manager, at Wikimania in July. Jessica was looking for ways to improve articles on Wikipedia about the Museum and its artists/collections. We followed up a few weeks later at the Perelman Building in downtown Philadelphia where we discussed ways to increase participation in the GLAM/PMA project.
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It's exciting to have a partner in Jessica Milby and there should be a lot of good work coming out the collaboration within the next 3-6 months. Please stop by the GLAM/PMA project page and leave your thoughts. What ideas do you have? How can we move forward on the above projects? I Hope you're all well. Cheers! Ocaasi 19:02, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
As I only became a fan of the museum through watching Andrea Fraser's "Museum Highlights", I put the template on her talk page. Would it be possible to release bits of her presentation in small video segments on Wiki Commons? I think that would be a great way to introduce the building and at the same time show how the museum mixes the old with the new. Looking over your project page, you should make a list of all pages that actually link to the museum today, and then tag those, plus make a list of articles you think *should* link to the museum, and finally the articles you wish would be created. It's easier to improve and clean up than make new stuff, but a short list of wanted biography articles would be a good place to start. You may want to take a look at the WP:Teylers challenge pages for the odd descrepancy between what we thought we wanted vs what we got, which ended up being so much better. Jane ( talk) 19:47, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
I'm going to request that the articles under this project be indexed with the popular pages tool. Cool? Ocaasi t | c 19:08, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
Please join the
Chemical Heritage Foundation Edit-a-Thon, June 20, 2013. Build content relating to women in science, chemistry and the history of science. Use the hashtag #GlamCHF and write your favorite scientist or chemist into Wikipedian history! |
If anyone at PMA would like to visit the Chemical Heritage Foundation Edit-a-thon next week, we would be delighted. Congratulations on the terrific work you've been doing with the Art Museum! Mary Mark Ockerbloom ( talk) 20:42, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
Please join the Wikipedia Edit-a-thon at THATCamp Philly, September 27, 2013, held at the Chemical Heritage Foundation. Bring your own content to work on, or get an early start on Ada Lovelace Day with our resources about women in science, chemistry and the history of science. Mary Mark Ockerbloom ( talk) 20:21, 24 September 2013 (UTC) |
A requested move discussion has been initiated for Fish Magic (Klee) to be moved to Fish Magic. This page is of interest to this WikiProject and interested members may want to participate in the discussion here. — RMCD bot 04:52, 8 July 2022 (UTC)