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SSSB: Of course there is. From what I see, list was unfinished at the time of deletion and Verstappen was then 16th with 21 wins, now he is 3rd with 58 wins ahead of Vettel, Prost and Senna. There is only Schumacher and Hamilton above him.
Eurohunter (
talk)
16:32, 12 May 2024 (UTC)reply
I wasn't pinged but I will contribute an answer regardless. Firstly, This is an
WP:OTHERSTUFF arguement. I could also easily spin this around - a consensus was made to delete the list of Verstappen's list (and many others), this consensus can be extended to the similar lists for Vettel, Prost, Senna, Fangio and Hamilton. They should be deleted too. Since my
WP:OTHERSTUFF arguement is based on actual consensus amoungst editor, not an editor creating lists by themselves, my position is much stronger. Secondly, I would say that the lists for Vettel, Prost, Senna, Fangio and Hamilton don't meet the notability criteria either, I just can't be bothered to nominate for deletion and have a long, strung out debate.
SSSB (
talk)
11:50, 19 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Seconded. Most of the lists of wins don't even link to anywhere except back to the main subject. Someone (not me, I'm not that daft) nominate the lot for deletion, but good luck to anyone digging themselves into those holes.
Halmyre (
talk)
15:06, 19 May 2024 (UTC)reply
I agree with the other ones. These should actually be deleted. We actually did end up nomating a bunch of this type of articles a while ago and they were deleted.
Tvx1
15:40, 19 May 2024 (UTC)reply
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Personal CR: is adding external links involving Twitter, Instagram, Facebook and so on on Grands Prix articles (see his contributions). Is that something proper?
Island92 (
talk)
21:06, 7 June 2024 (UTC)reply
No, as outlined in
WP:NOSOCIAL. As a now mooted side pointed, the instance of this I looked at (
Special:Diff/1227795568) is further inappropriate as the links in this specific edit are for the circuit, not the actual Grand Prix as is claimed.
SSSB (
talk)
21:52, 7 June 2024 (UTC)reply
Thought I'd put this out there for discussion: does the project believe a standalone article on the
Andretti Formula One bid is worthwhile? Happy to start this but want some perspective on if it is due weight or could end up merged back to Andretti Global. 5225C (
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contributions)
05:40, 9 June 2024 (UTC)reply
I haven't done a proper check, but I would suggest that
WP:GNG is defenitly satisified. The only question then becomes, is there enough content to justify a split from
Andretti Global?
Andretti Global#Formula One could be expanded, but I don't think there is enough content that I would split, but at the same time if it were split, I'm not convinced that a deletion/merge discussion would be successful - it is in that grey area.
SSSB (
talk)
06:01, 9 June 2024 (UTC)reply
My thinking is that every point discussed on the Andretti Global article could almost be its own section in a standalone article. There are also other relevant events, such as the US Congress's involvement (
[1]) and Andretti's investment in European infrastructure, which aren't discussed at all. If I was 100% confident that it would survive an AfD I would've already started – I'll wait for some others to comment, if there's isn't a rough consensus it's worthwhile I'll focus on expanding the Andretti section. 5225C (
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contributions)
06:12, 9 June 2024 (UTC)reply
This page is part of WikiProject Formula One, an attempt to improve and standardize articles related to
Formula One, including drivers, teams and constructors, events and history. Feel free to
join the project and help with any of the tasks or consult the
project page for further information.
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SSSB: Of course there is. From what I see, list was unfinished at the time of deletion and Verstappen was then 16th with 21 wins, now he is 3rd with 58 wins ahead of Vettel, Prost and Senna. There is only Schumacher and Hamilton above him.
Eurohunter (
talk)
16:32, 12 May 2024 (UTC)reply
I wasn't pinged but I will contribute an answer regardless. Firstly, This is an
WP:OTHERSTUFF arguement. I could also easily spin this around - a consensus was made to delete the list of Verstappen's list (and many others), this consensus can be extended to the similar lists for Vettel, Prost, Senna, Fangio and Hamilton. They should be deleted too. Since my
WP:OTHERSTUFF arguement is based on actual consensus amoungst editor, not an editor creating lists by themselves, my position is much stronger. Secondly, I would say that the lists for Vettel, Prost, Senna, Fangio and Hamilton don't meet the notability criteria either, I just can't be bothered to nominate for deletion and have a long, strung out debate.
SSSB (
talk)
11:50, 19 May 2024 (UTC)reply
Seconded. Most of the lists of wins don't even link to anywhere except back to the main subject. Someone (not me, I'm not that daft) nominate the lot for deletion, but good luck to anyone digging themselves into those holes.
Halmyre (
talk)
15:06, 19 May 2024 (UTC)reply
I agree with the other ones. These should actually be deleted. We actually did end up nomating a bunch of this type of articles a while ago and they were deleted.
Tvx1
15:40, 19 May 2024 (UTC)reply
@
Personal CR: is adding external links involving Twitter, Instagram, Facebook and so on on Grands Prix articles (see his contributions). Is that something proper?
Island92 (
talk)
21:06, 7 June 2024 (UTC)reply
No, as outlined in
WP:NOSOCIAL. As a now mooted side pointed, the instance of this I looked at (
Special:Diff/1227795568) is further inappropriate as the links in this specific edit are for the circuit, not the actual Grand Prix as is claimed.
SSSB (
talk)
21:52, 7 June 2024 (UTC)reply
Thought I'd put this out there for discussion: does the project believe a standalone article on the
Andretti Formula One bid is worthwhile? Happy to start this but want some perspective on if it is due weight or could end up merged back to Andretti Global. 5225C (
talk •
contributions)
05:40, 9 June 2024 (UTC)reply
I haven't done a proper check, but I would suggest that
WP:GNG is defenitly satisified. The only question then becomes, is there enough content to justify a split from
Andretti Global?
Andretti Global#Formula One could be expanded, but I don't think there is enough content that I would split, but at the same time if it were split, I'm not convinced that a deletion/merge discussion would be successful - it is in that grey area.
SSSB (
talk)
06:01, 9 June 2024 (UTC)reply
My thinking is that every point discussed on the Andretti Global article could almost be its own section in a standalone article. There are also other relevant events, such as the US Congress's involvement (
[1]) and Andretti's investment in European infrastructure, which aren't discussed at all. If I was 100% confident that it would survive an AfD I would've already started – I'll wait for some others to comment, if there's isn't a rough consensus it's worthwhile I'll focus on expanding the Andretti section. 5225C (
talk •
contributions)
06:12, 9 June 2024 (UTC)reply