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Welcome to the class discussion board! a.k.a. "talk page"
Past students: Looking for the old talk page? It's here.
Feel free to bring up any items for discussion right here on this page. Hit "New Section" above to add a new topic/comment. Indent your responses with a colon (:) at the very beginning of the paragraph. Sign your name with a dash and four squiggly
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Unfortunately, I am not able to watch the video of session one which took place last night from thee to four o'clock a.m. central European summer time. When I follow the link in either Google Chrome or Safari on Mac OS X 10.6.8, a jnlp file is downloaded. And that's all. I gather that this is a course in OER. Could you please upload the videos to Wikimedia Commons in a free format for all to watch? This way we could re-use them in all Wikimedia projects. May I ask why you are using a commercial platform and, what's more, a solution based on Java which is not secure, as we know by now.—Thanks.-- Aschmidt ( talk) 16:22, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
Done There's now a
version of the archive available on YouTube. We still hope to get it into an open format and on Wikimedia Commons, but I doubt we will get to that soon; the 100Mb file size limit on Commons may be a big hurdle. -
Pete (
talk) 02:27, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
Visit the Week 1 page at Wikipedia:WIKISOO/Week_1 to watch the webinar, check on week one homework, and more. OER Awesome! :) - Sara FB ( talk) 19:13, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
I created a P2PU identity when I registered, but it did not follow me to this class. How do I get them to play nicely together? I am lgraham in P2PU, but created a new identity for WIKISOO, GramaLorrie30. Both use the same email. Should I delete the P2PU login?
GramaLorrie30 ( talk) 15:27, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
Hola a todos, quisiera unirme a un grupo pero dado que mi dominio del ingles es muy limitado estoy interesado en formar parte de un grupo de trabajo con compañeros que sepan español para facilitar la comunicación en ambos sentidos. Un saludo. - Cazalinks ( Talk)
I just looked at the Enrolled list and I'm not on it. So I went back through the instructions & clicked on "Enroll" and it says I need a token from the instructor. But I signed up through P2PU. Of course, I frequently skim through things until I get to the doing part & then go back to see what I've missed - which usually works just fine. Also, what is the Barn badge thing - I think it says assignement complete? Lorrie ( talk) 16:12, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
I'm on the class page enrolled list, but according to My Courses from my user page: "You are not currently participating in any active courses. You can view the list of courses." I tried re-enrolling from
Pete's shortcut (above) then purging My Courses, and the course still doesn't show up. What to do? --
Litjade (
talk)
Pete says this above, but I wanted to add it in BOLD text. :) To appear on the class list at the bottom of the Wikipedia page, simply click "Enroll" on the main course page and use the token WIKISOO. Welcome!!! = Sara FB ( talk) 18:46, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
A student asked me about how to sign her real name instead of her username when signing a post, e.g. when using - ~~~~ on a talk page. I do this myself; when I sign my name you see "Sara FB" even though my login is "snarfa." Here's what I did to make this happen - there may be other ways, so feel free to jump in (Pete?).
[[User:YourUsername|NameYouWantPeopleToSee]] ([[User talk:YourUsername|talk]])
That's all! Then when you type - ~~~~ after something you comment, your preferred name will appear, with a bonus link to your talk page. These are great questions to post RIGHT HERE in this tab by the way, or bring to Thurs/Fri lab sessions. - Sara FB ( talk) 21:56, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
Can there be a redirect from the old class page to our current class page, like the redirect to the current class talkpage? Or a new shortcut altogether, like WIKISOO2, for our class? -- User:Litjade ( talk)
I am on the Talk tab, not the Education Program tab, and wanted to see if this is how to add a category to the "Contents" box. It appears that the nomenclature is "New Section" . I realize this is not a discussion thread, but am not sure how else to get discussion for the class since there is no blog and not everyone on my team has made a User Page, so I don't know their email. Anyone have a better way? Patricia.Loeblein ( talk) 19:58, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
I found a great article called Help: Using Talk Pages /info/en/?search=Help:Using_talk_pages and there is information about adding "Sections" Patricia.Loeblein ( talk) 21:42, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
Re Patricia's question above, to contact other users directly, leave a message on their User talk page - even if there is no content on the user page (yet!), if they have linked their account to an email address, they will be notified of the message. For example, feel free to contact me on my talk page anytime. :) Or if you prefer to contact them privately, go to their user page (whether they have added content or not), click on the Toolbox in the panel at left, and select "email this user." Hope that helps. - Sara FB ( talk) 21:45, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
I am thinking that at last weeks webinar, we were told this is a space for learners. Is that right? Patricia.Loeblein ( talk) 20:01, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
I have been doing lots of the homework, but sticking to the readings and videos after finding nothing to edit on Community Portal. Can I still get a badge at the end of the course? I plan to attend all the webinars too Patricia.Loeblein ( talk) 21:00, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
Related question: how do you or myself keep track of the 200 or more edits, starting a new Wikipedia article, and/or improving an existing Wikipedia article? Redwellie14 ( talk) 21:12, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
Hope that helps! - Sara FB ( talk) 22:00, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
I am wondering since there is no P2PU blog, how instructors are helping the new learners. There are people on my team that have not made users accounts.I totally understand why they may have not yet done this because I have spent several hours doing my homework. It seems taking a class by using the thing you are trying to learn has benefits and pitfalls. I have used guided inquiry as an instruction model for three decades, so I believe in learners owning their path to knowledge. Having no way to contact the instructor directly does feel somewhat overly difficult. Although I am a self-directed learner, I do feel the need for some feedback. How will that happen? I can't attend the lab, but will attend the webinars. Respectfully, Patricia.Loeblein ( talk) 21:32, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
I have been trying since 30 minutes before the class started, but it keeps taking me to the week 1 Blackboard Collaborator session. Lorrie ( talk) 01:19, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
I got an email notification that "User:Litjade was reviewed by Wikipedia user DragonflySixtyseven:". I've no idea what that means, nor who DragonflySixtyseven is. When I went to my userpage, I couldn't see anything different. Any ideas? User:Litjade ( talk)
Thanks to everyone from the clueless (me)! Glad I fixed the hyperlink on my user page by the time it was reviewed. (Maybe there's a shiny smiley face icon that says something like 'this page has been reviewed'?) In message threads like this, do we just keep indenting as we respond? Since I'm kind of 'replying all', I thought it best to start anew. -- Litjade ( talk)
Just to clarify, Is it okay to edit/add articles that are not about open education for homework? MJMcGowan ( talk) 02:11, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
Hi pete,
I think that I am having a conflict of interest problem that you spoke about in class tonight. I was trying to add a exhibition section to the Royal Ontario Museum page and was told it sounded too promotional. This was not my intention. However, I don't understand what I did wrong seeing as I was just trying to write factual information. This is what I wrote: Mesopotamia The Mesopotamia exhibition will be at the ROM from June 22, 2013 in the Garfield Weston Exhibition Hall located in the Michael Lee-Chin Crystal on Level 2B until January 5th 2014.[80] The exhibit showcases over 170 objects from the collections of the British Museum.[80] Urban civilization started in Mesopotamia where the first cities and complex forms of organization and economic activity emerged. The exhibition will teach people about Mesopotamia’s social and technological developments through time in ancient Sumer (4000-2000 BCE), the dominance of the Assyrian World Empire (1000 – 600 BCE), and the rise and fall of Babylon (600 -540 BCE). [80] Exhibition highlights include gold jewelry found in the tombs at the Royal Cemetery in the city of Ur, several artifacts illustrating the accomplishments of King Hammurabi (1792 – 1750 BCE), and a statue of King Ashurnasirpal II. A piece from the ROM’s collection is the Striding Lion that once adorned the throne room façade of the palace of Babylon’s King Nebuchadnezzar II (604-562 BCE). [80] The exhibition also touches on the rediscovery of Mesopotamia by the west and the catastrophic impact of the 2003 looting of Baghdad’s Iraq Museum and the destruction of numerous archaeological sites had on Iraq’s culture.[80] Mesopotamia has various interpretive elements such as a 3-D fly though of Babylon featuring the Tower of Babel and the Hanging Gardens of Babylon, touchable reproductions, interactive touch-screens, translation of ancient texts, and audio explanations. [80] Programming for scholars, adults, and families will also take place during the exhibitions time at the ROM. Mesopotamia is presented by the British Museum in collaboration with the Royal Ontario Museum.[80]
Could you give me some tips regarding this problem? Thanks MJMcGowan ( talk) 02:40, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
The youtube`s video about the week´s one lab has no sound-- Cazalinks ( talk) 20:16, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
I just want to show the first project I've been working these days to exchange views. It comes to a translation of the course itself " Peer to Peer University / Writing Wikipedia Articles (2013 Q2)" to Spanish: " Programa de Educación: Peer-to-Peer University / Escribiendo artículos de Wikipedia (Q2 2013)"
At this time I've been made a translation of the main page in this link , and the website of the week 1 in this other link Semana 1
Today I will start the translation of week 2 in Semana 2. Any help or suggestions are very welcome. A greeting-- Cazalinks ( talk) 19:25, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
Hi all, or better "Ciao a tutti" :-) I'm from Milano Italy. I joined the class and I hope will be possible for me to be "in course" :-) P.S. excuse me for my "rusty" english :-) Franciaio ( talk) 07:33, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
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I have written a review of the Open educational resources article on the talk page for the article which I hope you will find helpful. ChristineBushMV ( talk) 20:02, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
I am enjoying doing copy edits to help reduce the backlog. Thank you, Peter, for suggesting we check the Community portal for projects to work on. There, I found the backlog for copy editing, which is great for someone who doesn't have the time to get into researching the citations and other details. Clarity, correct form, etc, are just fine with me. I will endeavor to join this eveing, internet and links willing ; ) Lorrie ( talk) 15:37, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
Got brave enough to do some clarification editing - Genome project article that is quite lingo-heavy & decided not to wait for someone else to clarify a confusing paragraph structure. I'm sure that the powers that be will revert if they feel it's not a good fix. Lorrie ( talk) 17:09, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
The biography of David A. Wiley, a pioneer in Open Educational Resources, currently has a banner at the top saying there aren't enough references. But the article does have some references. Maybe one of you wants to take a closer look and see if you can figure out how this happened, and whether it might be worth doing something about it? I don't have a specific approach in mind here -- in particular, I'd point out that I haven't looked closely at the references used, to see how well they comply with Wikipedia's guideline on reliable sources etc. If you choose to take this on, you might want to make use of the article's history page, its talk page, etc. Enjoy! - Pete ( talk) 23:14, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
In doing the homework to upload a photo, I used a book cover image which came directly from the publishing company and was so designated. I put it in Wikimedia Commons and then embedded in my own user page. It was very quickly flagged for removal by another user because it was missing permission information, and it seems the next step is applying for OTRS ticket. Understand the importance of rights issues, and have already sent an OTRS back to wiki permissions so they will be reviewing it. Don't mean this to sound like a personal question because I thought several aspects would be of general interest: 1) Can you explain OTRS process on images that are not already clearly creative commons or fee use?; 2) Since there is not really a talk/discussion page about a particular image, is there a proper wiki etiquette when something like this has happened as I await OTRS response - should I note on my user page, or on the user page of the user who flagged it, that something is in process? Thanks! - FEProctor ( talk)
Thanks, Pete! This is a very helpful answer. It is something I would like to understand better at some point but for now, since I'm still just practicing, will just try uploading a different image. - FEProctor ( talk)
Hi, Sorry to miss lab last night. My daughter frequently visits on Thursday evening - and she didn't leave until about 10 last night.
Could you tell me how PDFs get embedded in Wikipedia? Do they have to be "out there" or is there a way to direct Wikipedia to another source? Is this something that has to be done through Wikimedia Commons? Thanks, Lorrie ( talk) 17:57, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
I have used wiki media commons images (uploaded a photo and a used a flower from the wiki media collection), added user boxes (thank you Bron), but now I want to rearrange the images on my user page. Please tell me how to do that!!! having so much fun with this. Lorrie ( talk)
Hi everybody, as part of my project I decided to continue editing this article, maybe with someone of my team we can arrange to do editing in colaboration Fernando Lopez Anido ( talk) 10:28, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
I can not claim my article on the main page of the course, there is an error with the server. What I can do? This is the page i want to claim Programa de Educación: Peer-to-Peer University / Escribiendo artículos de Wikipedia (Q2 2013) and this is the error that appear:
"WIKIMEDIA FOUNDATION Error Our servers are currently experiencing a technical problem. This is probably temporary and should be fixed soon. Please try again in a few minutes.
You may be able to get further information in the #wikipedia channel on the Freenode IRC network.
The Wikimedia Foundation is a non-profit organisation which hosts some of the most popular sites on the Internet, including Wikipedia. It has a constant need to purchase new hardware. If you would like to help, please donate.
If you report this error to the Wikimedia System Administrators, please include the details below. PHP fatal error in /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.22wmf5/includes/logging/LogEntry.php line 394: Argument 1 passed to ManualLogEntry::setTarget() must be an instance of Title, null given, called in /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.22wmf5/extensions/EducationProgram/includes/Utils.php on line 32 and defined "
-- Cazalinks ( talk) 19:45, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
Hi Everyone: I'm working on a new article for submission on PhET Interactive Simulations from the University of Colorado Boulder and Pete suggested that I post a link here to my sandbox. Suggestions are great appreciated. FYI...as you can see from my profile I am with PhET but am trying to keep within the policies and neutrality of Wikipedia. And so, community edits are appreciated! Thanks - Klidessau ( talk) 19:59, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
Please help: I added a significant amount of material to the OER Teaching Community section. I would love someone to review it. I have barely started a paragraph about commercial publishers for teacher ideas. This makes me wonder if I need to change the section title? thoughts like should I leave out commercial references or change the title or leave as is? thanks Patricia.Loeblein ( talk) 22:26, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
Hello. I really want to build a wiki page for my university's student union. 3 years ago though, it was marked for deletion and after some discussion, the verdict was to delete. See details here: /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/UWM_Union
The school recently voted to build a new union though, and I am pretty sure this is now a relevant article to publish. What is the best way to get this discussion going again? There are a few 'types' of deletion and the process is confusing.-- Johnnytecmo ( talk) 02:02, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
I'd like to create a pronunciation key for Phalaenopsis_hieroglyphica. How do I go about it? I found Template:Respell but must be missing a step. --Litjade 02:35, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
I think it might be fun to hear from classmates what pages they especially like. There are so many great internal help pages about WP. Here's one of mine Wikipedia:Article titles (Ironically I was searching to find out if WP is the accepted abbreviation for Wikipedia) Patricia.Loeblein ( talk) 18:42, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
Hi guys. I would really like some feedback on the Charles Trick Currelly article I have been working on. I plan on adding more content and pictures but I would love feedback on structure and anything else you think necessary. Thanks MJMcGowan ( talk) 02:00, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
Excellent presentation respecting a few projects with very similar objectives especially OER. Question: If Wikipedia really is essentially an OER repository ( and a MOOC) Why separate projects?
Hello everyone! I am
Go Phightins! (feel free to call me Ben), and I am currently your only course online ambassador (though I see Stuartyeates here as well, so the two of us
). Anyway, I see several questions related to sources. At Wikipedia, we like secondary sources as well as independent sources rather than sources affiliated with the subject. When thinking of the term
reliable sources, look for third-party, independent sources. I know you are all interested in open educational resources; these can serve as great sources when working on Wikipedia as well, though one issue with them is, in my limited experience, they are often primary sources, which is fine, but require a degree of care so as not to synthesize and interpret data ... we have a policy against
original research and synthesis, which tends to ensue when using primary sources. Hence, secondary and even tertiary sources, which interpret primary sources for us, are often better and more reliable for our purposes.
On another note, I see a lot of discussion in your teams and on talk pages, which is great. Wikipedia needs more exciting and focused collaboration, but at the end of the day, I would encourage all of you to be bold. If you see something you think you can improve, go for it! The worse thing that can happen is that you completely ruin the article, and your edit can be undone in one click. Not a big deal at all. Discussing changes and getting consensus is terrific, but often even better is boldly making an edit, then if someone disagrees, reverting and then discussing. We call this the bold, revert, discuss cycle, and it is really helpful when working on content.
I don't want to overlink here, so I will wrap up now. I do want to say that I hope many if not most of you stick around after the conclusion of your course to continue to contribute. When you think about it, Wikipedia is the sixth most visited website in the world, and you, like everyone else, has the opportunity to help improve it at your leisure. So find an interest area. Maybe it's OER, maybe it's something else. Join a WikiProject. Be bold, and make edits to improve what we already have. If you ever need any help, your two course instructors are great Wikipedians, I can help at my talk page or at this course page, or you can ask a question in a friendly, collegial atmosphere at the Teahouse. Wikipedia needs you! Happy editing, and best of luck on your final project. Don't hesitate to let me know if you need any help! Your online ambassador, Go Phightins ! 03:17, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
On the PhET Interactive Simulations article talk section, I added a disclosure statement and wanted to link back to this course article, but it appears to have some block. can you check my coding - or is it ok to leave it a red link? (learned what that was last night at lab)
thx Patricia.Loeblein ( talk) 20:34, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
I felt that having the full content of references in the body of the text was making the edit page overly hard to read (and edit). Thus to avoid clutter, I reformatted the article as per the List Defined References (LDR) guidelines.
In future I will add the full content of the reference (with a ref name), to a reference list at the base of the article and the shorter <ref name="Refname" /> tag within the body of the article. For example, in the edit page it looks like this:
'''Open Educational Practices''' (OEP) are teaching techniques that draw upon open technologies in order to facilitate collaborative and flexible learning.<ref name="JISCOEPbrief" /> They may involve students participating in online, [[peer production]] communities <ref name="COLTdef" /> within activities intended to support learning <ref name="OPALdef" /> or more broadly, any context where access to educational opportunity through freely available online content and services is the norm.<ref name="JISCOEPbrief" />
==References==
{{Reflist|
refs=
<ref name=JISCOEPbrief>{{cite web|last=Beetham, H., Falconer, I., McGill, L. and Littlejohn, A.|title=Open practices: briefing paper|url=https://oersynth.pbworks.com/w/page/51668352/OpenPracticesBriefing|publisher=JISC|date=2012|accessdate=13 June 2013}}</ref>
<ref name=COLTdef>{{cite web|last=COLT|title=Open Educational Practices|url=http://colt.olemiss.edu/open-ed/oep/|work=Center for Open Learning and Teaching|publisher=University of Mississippi|accessdate=13 June 2013}}</ref>
<ref name=OPALdef>{{cite book|last=OPAL|title=Beyond OER: Shifting Focus to Open Educational Practices|year=2010|url=http://www.academia.edu/1002959/Beyond_OER_Shifting_Focus_to_Open_Educational_Practices}}</ref>
</ref>
}}
(Note that I have formatted the code here using<nowiki></nowiki> so that it will display in the post).
I hope you also find this useful (I recommend starting this earlier than later) and, you might want to discuss this on the Talk page first. You are of course welcome to visit
Open Educational Practices and view the full edit page. (Thanks Pete for suggesting I write this up here). -
C01Clem (
talk) 23:50, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
In the article Phalaenopsis hieroglyphica, there's mention of the botanist Herman Royden Sweet. There's no English-language article on him, but there's one in Spanish. Any advice on how to make the link so that the reader can see that it's in Spanish? For a bonus barn star, should I try to create an English page on him, based on the Spanish? -- Litjade ( talk) 16:37, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
Now that we published our article PhET Interactive Simulations on Wikipedia (with great thanks to Peter and Sara), today we
Thanks for a great class! -- Klidessau ( talk) 00:09, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
This is so exciting. Tooled around in an article until it finally became so obvious even I could not miss it. John Worgan I added Citation 2!!! Lorrie ( talk) 17:26, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
Thank all very much for sharing, reflecting, encouraging, and criticizing (with genuine interest in promoting growth). Personally, I had only visited WP under 50 times before this class. Although I am just barely proficient as a Wikipedian (if you are not a teacher, that's standardized testing vocab for C-), I do feel much more confident in sharing ideas on the web. Not only did I participate in WP, but today I submitted an idea to Xchange which is a High School Teachers online group under American Chemical Society umbrella. I have had an idea for almost a year, but felt under-qualified to submit. Now, I hope that the reviewers will consider my work seriously because I do feel like I made it decent. Some who are familiar with my PhET teaching ideas which are posted on the PhET website might be surprised at my lack of participation outside of PhET since I had over 1 million downloads of my activities last year. I have always felt very safe sharing with other HS teachers. See you at the reunion, Trish Patricia.Loeblein ( talk) 15:27, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
NSDL article National Science Digital Library got three flags
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external links may not follow Wikipedia's policies or guidelines. (June 2013) |
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weasel words: vague phrasing that often accompanies
biased or
unverifiable information. (June 2013) |
The PhET article was similarly flagged, so we have been actively working to address the concerns brought up by the reviewers. Anyone who would desire to help NSDL would be helping the OER community. I am hopeful since this class has many OER interested folks that someone will jump in. Thanks, Trish Patricia.Loeblein ( talk) 20:32, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
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Writing Wikipedia Articles: The Basics and Beyond |
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a free six week course |
Welcome to the class discussion board! a.k.a. "talk page"
Past students: Looking for the old talk page? It's here.
Feel free to bring up any items for discussion right here on this page. Hit "New Section" above to add a new topic/comment. Indent your responses with a colon (:) at the very beginning of the paragraph. Sign your name with a dash and four squiggly
tildes!
Unfortunately, I am not able to watch the video of session one which took place last night from thee to four o'clock a.m. central European summer time. When I follow the link in either Google Chrome or Safari on Mac OS X 10.6.8, a jnlp file is downloaded. And that's all. I gather that this is a course in OER. Could you please upload the videos to Wikimedia Commons in a free format for all to watch? This way we could re-use them in all Wikimedia projects. May I ask why you are using a commercial platform and, what's more, a solution based on Java which is not secure, as we know by now.—Thanks.-- Aschmidt ( talk) 16:22, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
Done There's now a
version of the archive available on YouTube. We still hope to get it into an open format and on Wikimedia Commons, but I doubt we will get to that soon; the 100Mb file size limit on Commons may be a big hurdle. -
Pete (
talk) 02:27, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
Visit the Week 1 page at Wikipedia:WIKISOO/Week_1 to watch the webinar, check on week one homework, and more. OER Awesome! :) - Sara FB ( talk) 19:13, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
I created a P2PU identity when I registered, but it did not follow me to this class. How do I get them to play nicely together? I am lgraham in P2PU, but created a new identity for WIKISOO, GramaLorrie30. Both use the same email. Should I delete the P2PU login?
GramaLorrie30 ( talk) 15:27, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
Hola a todos, quisiera unirme a un grupo pero dado que mi dominio del ingles es muy limitado estoy interesado en formar parte de un grupo de trabajo con compañeros que sepan español para facilitar la comunicación en ambos sentidos. Un saludo. - Cazalinks ( Talk)
I just looked at the Enrolled list and I'm not on it. So I went back through the instructions & clicked on "Enroll" and it says I need a token from the instructor. But I signed up through P2PU. Of course, I frequently skim through things until I get to the doing part & then go back to see what I've missed - which usually works just fine. Also, what is the Barn badge thing - I think it says assignement complete? Lorrie ( talk) 16:12, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
I'm on the class page enrolled list, but according to My Courses from my user page: "You are not currently participating in any active courses. You can view the list of courses." I tried re-enrolling from
Pete's shortcut (above) then purging My Courses, and the course still doesn't show up. What to do? --
Litjade (
talk)
Pete says this above, but I wanted to add it in BOLD text. :) To appear on the class list at the bottom of the Wikipedia page, simply click "Enroll" on the main course page and use the token WIKISOO. Welcome!!! = Sara FB ( talk) 18:46, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
A student asked me about how to sign her real name instead of her username when signing a post, e.g. when using - ~~~~ on a talk page. I do this myself; when I sign my name you see "Sara FB" even though my login is "snarfa." Here's what I did to make this happen - there may be other ways, so feel free to jump in (Pete?).
[[User:YourUsername|NameYouWantPeopleToSee]] ([[User talk:YourUsername|talk]])
That's all! Then when you type - ~~~~ after something you comment, your preferred name will appear, with a bonus link to your talk page. These are great questions to post RIGHT HERE in this tab by the way, or bring to Thurs/Fri lab sessions. - Sara FB ( talk) 21:56, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
Can there be a redirect from the old class page to our current class page, like the redirect to the current class talkpage? Or a new shortcut altogether, like WIKISOO2, for our class? -- User:Litjade ( talk)
I am on the Talk tab, not the Education Program tab, and wanted to see if this is how to add a category to the "Contents" box. It appears that the nomenclature is "New Section" . I realize this is not a discussion thread, but am not sure how else to get discussion for the class since there is no blog and not everyone on my team has made a User Page, so I don't know their email. Anyone have a better way? Patricia.Loeblein ( talk) 19:58, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
I found a great article called Help: Using Talk Pages /info/en/?search=Help:Using_talk_pages and there is information about adding "Sections" Patricia.Loeblein ( talk) 21:42, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
Re Patricia's question above, to contact other users directly, leave a message on their User talk page - even if there is no content on the user page (yet!), if they have linked their account to an email address, they will be notified of the message. For example, feel free to contact me on my talk page anytime. :) Or if you prefer to contact them privately, go to their user page (whether they have added content or not), click on the Toolbox in the panel at left, and select "email this user." Hope that helps. - Sara FB ( talk) 21:45, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
I am thinking that at last weeks webinar, we were told this is a space for learners. Is that right? Patricia.Loeblein ( talk) 20:01, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
I have been doing lots of the homework, but sticking to the readings and videos after finding nothing to edit on Community Portal. Can I still get a badge at the end of the course? I plan to attend all the webinars too Patricia.Loeblein ( talk) 21:00, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
Related question: how do you or myself keep track of the 200 or more edits, starting a new Wikipedia article, and/or improving an existing Wikipedia article? Redwellie14 ( talk) 21:12, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
Hope that helps! - Sara FB ( talk) 22:00, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
I am wondering since there is no P2PU blog, how instructors are helping the new learners. There are people on my team that have not made users accounts.I totally understand why they may have not yet done this because I have spent several hours doing my homework. It seems taking a class by using the thing you are trying to learn has benefits and pitfalls. I have used guided inquiry as an instruction model for three decades, so I believe in learners owning their path to knowledge. Having no way to contact the instructor directly does feel somewhat overly difficult. Although I am a self-directed learner, I do feel the need for some feedback. How will that happen? I can't attend the lab, but will attend the webinars. Respectfully, Patricia.Loeblein ( talk) 21:32, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
I have been trying since 30 minutes before the class started, but it keeps taking me to the week 1 Blackboard Collaborator session. Lorrie ( talk) 01:19, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
I got an email notification that "User:Litjade was reviewed by Wikipedia user DragonflySixtyseven:". I've no idea what that means, nor who DragonflySixtyseven is. When I went to my userpage, I couldn't see anything different. Any ideas? User:Litjade ( talk)
Thanks to everyone from the clueless (me)! Glad I fixed the hyperlink on my user page by the time it was reviewed. (Maybe there's a shiny smiley face icon that says something like 'this page has been reviewed'?) In message threads like this, do we just keep indenting as we respond? Since I'm kind of 'replying all', I thought it best to start anew. -- Litjade ( talk)
Just to clarify, Is it okay to edit/add articles that are not about open education for homework? MJMcGowan ( talk) 02:11, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
Hi pete,
I think that I am having a conflict of interest problem that you spoke about in class tonight. I was trying to add a exhibition section to the Royal Ontario Museum page and was told it sounded too promotional. This was not my intention. However, I don't understand what I did wrong seeing as I was just trying to write factual information. This is what I wrote: Mesopotamia The Mesopotamia exhibition will be at the ROM from June 22, 2013 in the Garfield Weston Exhibition Hall located in the Michael Lee-Chin Crystal on Level 2B until January 5th 2014.[80] The exhibit showcases over 170 objects from the collections of the British Museum.[80] Urban civilization started in Mesopotamia where the first cities and complex forms of organization and economic activity emerged. The exhibition will teach people about Mesopotamia’s social and technological developments through time in ancient Sumer (4000-2000 BCE), the dominance of the Assyrian World Empire (1000 – 600 BCE), and the rise and fall of Babylon (600 -540 BCE). [80] Exhibition highlights include gold jewelry found in the tombs at the Royal Cemetery in the city of Ur, several artifacts illustrating the accomplishments of King Hammurabi (1792 – 1750 BCE), and a statue of King Ashurnasirpal II. A piece from the ROM’s collection is the Striding Lion that once adorned the throne room façade of the palace of Babylon’s King Nebuchadnezzar II (604-562 BCE). [80] The exhibition also touches on the rediscovery of Mesopotamia by the west and the catastrophic impact of the 2003 looting of Baghdad’s Iraq Museum and the destruction of numerous archaeological sites had on Iraq’s culture.[80] Mesopotamia has various interpretive elements such as a 3-D fly though of Babylon featuring the Tower of Babel and the Hanging Gardens of Babylon, touchable reproductions, interactive touch-screens, translation of ancient texts, and audio explanations. [80] Programming for scholars, adults, and families will also take place during the exhibitions time at the ROM. Mesopotamia is presented by the British Museum in collaboration with the Royal Ontario Museum.[80]
Could you give me some tips regarding this problem? Thanks MJMcGowan ( talk) 02:40, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
The youtube`s video about the week´s one lab has no sound-- Cazalinks ( talk) 20:16, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
I just want to show the first project I've been working these days to exchange views. It comes to a translation of the course itself " Peer to Peer University / Writing Wikipedia Articles (2013 Q2)" to Spanish: " Programa de Educación: Peer-to-Peer University / Escribiendo artículos de Wikipedia (Q2 2013)"
At this time I've been made a translation of the main page in this link , and the website of the week 1 in this other link Semana 1
Today I will start the translation of week 2 in Semana 2. Any help or suggestions are very welcome. A greeting-- Cazalinks ( talk) 19:25, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
Hi all, or better "Ciao a tutti" :-) I'm from Milano Italy. I joined the class and I hope will be possible for me to be "in course" :-) P.S. excuse me for my "rusty" english :-) Franciaio ( talk) 07:33, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
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Blackboard Youtube Wikimedia |
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I have written a review of the Open educational resources article on the talk page for the article which I hope you will find helpful. ChristineBushMV ( talk) 20:02, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
I am enjoying doing copy edits to help reduce the backlog. Thank you, Peter, for suggesting we check the Community portal for projects to work on. There, I found the backlog for copy editing, which is great for someone who doesn't have the time to get into researching the citations and other details. Clarity, correct form, etc, are just fine with me. I will endeavor to join this eveing, internet and links willing ; ) Lorrie ( talk) 15:37, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
Got brave enough to do some clarification editing - Genome project article that is quite lingo-heavy & decided not to wait for someone else to clarify a confusing paragraph structure. I'm sure that the powers that be will revert if they feel it's not a good fix. Lorrie ( talk) 17:09, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
The biography of David A. Wiley, a pioneer in Open Educational Resources, currently has a banner at the top saying there aren't enough references. But the article does have some references. Maybe one of you wants to take a closer look and see if you can figure out how this happened, and whether it might be worth doing something about it? I don't have a specific approach in mind here -- in particular, I'd point out that I haven't looked closely at the references used, to see how well they comply with Wikipedia's guideline on reliable sources etc. If you choose to take this on, you might want to make use of the article's history page, its talk page, etc. Enjoy! - Pete ( talk) 23:14, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
In doing the homework to upload a photo, I used a book cover image which came directly from the publishing company and was so designated. I put it in Wikimedia Commons and then embedded in my own user page. It was very quickly flagged for removal by another user because it was missing permission information, and it seems the next step is applying for OTRS ticket. Understand the importance of rights issues, and have already sent an OTRS back to wiki permissions so they will be reviewing it. Don't mean this to sound like a personal question because I thought several aspects would be of general interest: 1) Can you explain OTRS process on images that are not already clearly creative commons or fee use?; 2) Since there is not really a talk/discussion page about a particular image, is there a proper wiki etiquette when something like this has happened as I await OTRS response - should I note on my user page, or on the user page of the user who flagged it, that something is in process? Thanks! - FEProctor ( talk)
Thanks, Pete! This is a very helpful answer. It is something I would like to understand better at some point but for now, since I'm still just practicing, will just try uploading a different image. - FEProctor ( talk)
Hi, Sorry to miss lab last night. My daughter frequently visits on Thursday evening - and she didn't leave until about 10 last night.
Could you tell me how PDFs get embedded in Wikipedia? Do they have to be "out there" or is there a way to direct Wikipedia to another source? Is this something that has to be done through Wikimedia Commons? Thanks, Lorrie ( talk) 17:57, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
I have used wiki media commons images (uploaded a photo and a used a flower from the wiki media collection), added user boxes (thank you Bron), but now I want to rearrange the images on my user page. Please tell me how to do that!!! having so much fun with this. Lorrie ( talk)
Hi everybody, as part of my project I decided to continue editing this article, maybe with someone of my team we can arrange to do editing in colaboration Fernando Lopez Anido ( talk) 10:28, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
I can not claim my article on the main page of the course, there is an error with the server. What I can do? This is the page i want to claim Programa de Educación: Peer-to-Peer University / Escribiendo artículos de Wikipedia (Q2 2013) and this is the error that appear:
"WIKIMEDIA FOUNDATION Error Our servers are currently experiencing a technical problem. This is probably temporary and should be fixed soon. Please try again in a few minutes.
You may be able to get further information in the #wikipedia channel on the Freenode IRC network.
The Wikimedia Foundation is a non-profit organisation which hosts some of the most popular sites on the Internet, including Wikipedia. It has a constant need to purchase new hardware. If you would like to help, please donate.
If you report this error to the Wikimedia System Administrators, please include the details below. PHP fatal error in /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.22wmf5/includes/logging/LogEntry.php line 394: Argument 1 passed to ManualLogEntry::setTarget() must be an instance of Title, null given, called in /usr/local/apache/common-local/php-1.22wmf5/extensions/EducationProgram/includes/Utils.php on line 32 and defined "
-- Cazalinks ( talk) 19:45, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
Hi Everyone: I'm working on a new article for submission on PhET Interactive Simulations from the University of Colorado Boulder and Pete suggested that I post a link here to my sandbox. Suggestions are great appreciated. FYI...as you can see from my profile I am with PhET but am trying to keep within the policies and neutrality of Wikipedia. And so, community edits are appreciated! Thanks - Klidessau ( talk) 19:59, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
Please help: I added a significant amount of material to the OER Teaching Community section. I would love someone to review it. I have barely started a paragraph about commercial publishers for teacher ideas. This makes me wonder if I need to change the section title? thoughts like should I leave out commercial references or change the title or leave as is? thanks Patricia.Loeblein ( talk) 22:26, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
Hello. I really want to build a wiki page for my university's student union. 3 years ago though, it was marked for deletion and after some discussion, the verdict was to delete. See details here: /info/en/?search=Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/UWM_Union
The school recently voted to build a new union though, and I am pretty sure this is now a relevant article to publish. What is the best way to get this discussion going again? There are a few 'types' of deletion and the process is confusing.-- Johnnytecmo ( talk) 02:02, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
I'd like to create a pronunciation key for Phalaenopsis_hieroglyphica. How do I go about it? I found Template:Respell but must be missing a step. --Litjade 02:35, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
I think it might be fun to hear from classmates what pages they especially like. There are so many great internal help pages about WP. Here's one of mine Wikipedia:Article titles (Ironically I was searching to find out if WP is the accepted abbreviation for Wikipedia) Patricia.Loeblein ( talk) 18:42, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
Hi guys. I would really like some feedback on the Charles Trick Currelly article I have been working on. I plan on adding more content and pictures but I would love feedback on structure and anything else you think necessary. Thanks MJMcGowan ( talk) 02:00, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
Excellent presentation respecting a few projects with very similar objectives especially OER. Question: If Wikipedia really is essentially an OER repository ( and a MOOC) Why separate projects?
Hello everyone! I am
Go Phightins! (feel free to call me Ben), and I am currently your only course online ambassador (though I see Stuartyeates here as well, so the two of us
). Anyway, I see several questions related to sources. At Wikipedia, we like secondary sources as well as independent sources rather than sources affiliated with the subject. When thinking of the term
reliable sources, look for third-party, independent sources. I know you are all interested in open educational resources; these can serve as great sources when working on Wikipedia as well, though one issue with them is, in my limited experience, they are often primary sources, which is fine, but require a degree of care so as not to synthesize and interpret data ... we have a policy against
original research and synthesis, which tends to ensue when using primary sources. Hence, secondary and even tertiary sources, which interpret primary sources for us, are often better and more reliable for our purposes.
On another note, I see a lot of discussion in your teams and on talk pages, which is great. Wikipedia needs more exciting and focused collaboration, but at the end of the day, I would encourage all of you to be bold. If you see something you think you can improve, go for it! The worse thing that can happen is that you completely ruin the article, and your edit can be undone in one click. Not a big deal at all. Discussing changes and getting consensus is terrific, but often even better is boldly making an edit, then if someone disagrees, reverting and then discussing. We call this the bold, revert, discuss cycle, and it is really helpful when working on content.
I don't want to overlink here, so I will wrap up now. I do want to say that I hope many if not most of you stick around after the conclusion of your course to continue to contribute. When you think about it, Wikipedia is the sixth most visited website in the world, and you, like everyone else, has the opportunity to help improve it at your leisure. So find an interest area. Maybe it's OER, maybe it's something else. Join a WikiProject. Be bold, and make edits to improve what we already have. If you ever need any help, your two course instructors are great Wikipedians, I can help at my talk page or at this course page, or you can ask a question in a friendly, collegial atmosphere at the Teahouse. Wikipedia needs you! Happy editing, and best of luck on your final project. Don't hesitate to let me know if you need any help! Your online ambassador, Go Phightins ! 03:17, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
On the PhET Interactive Simulations article talk section, I added a disclosure statement and wanted to link back to this course article, but it appears to have some block. can you check my coding - or is it ok to leave it a red link? (learned what that was last night at lab)
thx Patricia.Loeblein ( talk) 20:34, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
I felt that having the full content of references in the body of the text was making the edit page overly hard to read (and edit). Thus to avoid clutter, I reformatted the article as per the List Defined References (LDR) guidelines.
In future I will add the full content of the reference (with a ref name), to a reference list at the base of the article and the shorter <ref name="Refname" /> tag within the body of the article. For example, in the edit page it looks like this:
'''Open Educational Practices''' (OEP) are teaching techniques that draw upon open technologies in order to facilitate collaborative and flexible learning.<ref name="JISCOEPbrief" /> They may involve students participating in online, [[peer production]] communities <ref name="COLTdef" /> within activities intended to support learning <ref name="OPALdef" /> or more broadly, any context where access to educational opportunity through freely available online content and services is the norm.<ref name="JISCOEPbrief" />
==References==
{{Reflist|
refs=
<ref name=JISCOEPbrief>{{cite web|last=Beetham, H., Falconer, I., McGill, L. and Littlejohn, A.|title=Open practices: briefing paper|url=https://oersynth.pbworks.com/w/page/51668352/OpenPracticesBriefing|publisher=JISC|date=2012|accessdate=13 June 2013}}</ref>
<ref name=COLTdef>{{cite web|last=COLT|title=Open Educational Practices|url=http://colt.olemiss.edu/open-ed/oep/|work=Center for Open Learning and Teaching|publisher=University of Mississippi|accessdate=13 June 2013}}</ref>
<ref name=OPALdef>{{cite book|last=OPAL|title=Beyond OER: Shifting Focus to Open Educational Practices|year=2010|url=http://www.academia.edu/1002959/Beyond_OER_Shifting_Focus_to_Open_Educational_Practices}}</ref>
</ref>
}}
(Note that I have formatted the code here using<nowiki></nowiki> so that it will display in the post).
I hope you also find this useful (I recommend starting this earlier than later) and, you might want to discuss this on the Talk page first. You are of course welcome to visit
Open Educational Practices and view the full edit page. (Thanks Pete for suggesting I write this up here). -
C01Clem (
talk) 23:50, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
In the article Phalaenopsis hieroglyphica, there's mention of the botanist Herman Royden Sweet. There's no English-language article on him, but there's one in Spanish. Any advice on how to make the link so that the reader can see that it's in Spanish? For a bonus barn star, should I try to create an English page on him, based on the Spanish? -- Litjade ( talk) 16:37, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
Now that we published our article PhET Interactive Simulations on Wikipedia (with great thanks to Peter and Sara), today we
Thanks for a great class! -- Klidessau ( talk) 00:09, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
This is so exciting. Tooled around in an article until it finally became so obvious even I could not miss it. John Worgan I added Citation 2!!! Lorrie ( talk) 17:26, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
Thank all very much for sharing, reflecting, encouraging, and criticizing (with genuine interest in promoting growth). Personally, I had only visited WP under 50 times before this class. Although I am just barely proficient as a Wikipedian (if you are not a teacher, that's standardized testing vocab for C-), I do feel much more confident in sharing ideas on the web. Not only did I participate in WP, but today I submitted an idea to Xchange which is a High School Teachers online group under American Chemical Society umbrella. I have had an idea for almost a year, but felt under-qualified to submit. Now, I hope that the reviewers will consider my work seriously because I do feel like I made it decent. Some who are familiar with my PhET teaching ideas which are posted on the PhET website might be surprised at my lack of participation outside of PhET since I had over 1 million downloads of my activities last year. I have always felt very safe sharing with other HS teachers. See you at the reunion, Trish Patricia.Loeblein ( talk) 15:27, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
NSDL article National Science Digital Library got three flags
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![]() | This article's use of
external links may not follow Wikipedia's policies or guidelines. (June 2013) |
![]() | This article contains
weasel words: vague phrasing that often accompanies
biased or
unverifiable information. (June 2013) |
The PhET article was similarly flagged, so we have been actively working to address the concerns brought up by the reviewers. Anyone who would desire to help NSDL would be helping the OER community. I am hopeful since this class has many OER interested folks that someone will jump in. Thanks, Trish Patricia.Loeblein ( talk) 20:32, 22 June 2013 (UTC)