Hi, I deleted the section saying that Hotmail, Yahoo and gmail e-mails reveal the sender's e-mail address, because I don't think they do. I stand to be corrected, of course, but I'm fairly certain that was wrong. Slim 20:18, Dec 9, 2004 (UTC)
No, they sure do ... here are full headers from yahoo email
To: blocked@yahoo.com via 68.142.225.148; Thu, 09 Dec 2004 12:20:18 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [68.142.225.149] Return-Path: <blocked@yahoo.com> Received: from 68.142.225.149 (HELO web54307.mail.yahoo.com) (68.142.225.149) by mta313.mail.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; Thu, 09 Dec 2004 12:20:18 -0800 Received: (qmail 33262 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Dec 2004 20:20:17 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=5CFglAf7PijyE6/1RL+OG+GTd1vTcYn6PG41WVI5qCRDi9K9uvrwWPmSVVN2978N3d0+hQXwnCZ7kyKdLsEQFOTHSVJxCDDwU9fuOujUtYV559DzauDm6gOQvAZEKSLKXjtnYip9vArpwvnzESTTO6VVyHsUgSUh39IYtknjDHQ= ; Message-ID: <20041209202017.33260.qmail@web54307.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [67.64.41.155] by web54307.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP;
You can see, 67.64.41.155 is my IP OneGuy 20:25, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Do you know what the best websites are, with the most reliable information? What I'm trying to find out is which IP range belongs to which ISP, because it could be that the Usenet/Wikipedia posts I'm seeing are coming from entirely different ranges but just look as though they're in the same range.
Also, one of them is posting from an AOL proxy. Do you know how they would get one of those? Slim 21:28, Dec 9, 2004 (UTC)
This comment was never addressed: Isn't the current functionality part of the software? Would making this change affect all of the other wiki projects? -- Sean Kelly 00:54, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Why is this page not on current surveys? Johnleemk | Talk 19:59, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Does this page still need to be listed on RFC? Maurreen 06:33, 13 Jan 2005 (UTC)
I'm surprised the argument wasn't raised that many newbies casually stumbling upon Wikipedia will not want to go through the extra step of creating an account before editing. There are a lot of websites with similar requirements (e.g. Board Game Geek) where I just don't contribute because I don't feel like creating an account. Even though it only takes a few seconds here, the casual contributor may not want to deal with keeping track of yet another account and password (which are easily forgotten, requiring creation of a new account).
I know that even on other wikis, I don't really feel like creating an account just to make a single edit. Rad Racer | Talk 02:06, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Hi, I deleted the section saying that Hotmail, Yahoo and gmail e-mails reveal the sender's e-mail address, because I don't think they do. I stand to be corrected, of course, but I'm fairly certain that was wrong. Slim 20:18, Dec 9, 2004 (UTC)
No, they sure do ... here are full headers from yahoo email
To: blocked@yahoo.com via 68.142.225.148; Thu, 09 Dec 2004 12:20:18 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [68.142.225.149] Return-Path: <blocked@yahoo.com> Received: from 68.142.225.149 (HELO web54307.mail.yahoo.com) (68.142.225.149) by mta313.mail.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; Thu, 09 Dec 2004 12:20:18 -0800 Received: (qmail 33262 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Dec 2004 20:20:17 -0000 Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; b=5CFglAf7PijyE6/1RL+OG+GTd1vTcYn6PG41WVI5qCRDi9K9uvrwWPmSVVN2978N3d0+hQXwnCZ7kyKdLsEQFOTHSVJxCDDwU9fuOujUtYV559DzauDm6gOQvAZEKSLKXjtnYip9vArpwvnzESTTO6VVyHsUgSUh39IYtknjDHQ= ; Message-ID: <20041209202017.33260.qmail@web54307.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [67.64.41.155] by web54307.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP;
You can see, 67.64.41.155 is my IP OneGuy 20:25, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Do you know what the best websites are, with the most reliable information? What I'm trying to find out is which IP range belongs to which ISP, because it could be that the Usenet/Wikipedia posts I'm seeing are coming from entirely different ranges but just look as though they're in the same range.
Also, one of them is posting from an AOL proxy. Do you know how they would get one of those? Slim 21:28, Dec 9, 2004 (UTC)
This comment was never addressed: Isn't the current functionality part of the software? Would making this change affect all of the other wiki projects? -- Sean Kelly 00:54, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Why is this page not on current surveys? Johnleemk | Talk 19:59, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Does this page still need to be listed on RFC? Maurreen 06:33, 13 Jan 2005 (UTC)
I'm surprised the argument wasn't raised that many newbies casually stumbling upon Wikipedia will not want to go through the extra step of creating an account before editing. There are a lot of websites with similar requirements (e.g. Board Game Geek) where I just don't contribute because I don't feel like creating an account. Even though it only takes a few seconds here, the casual contributor may not want to deal with keeping track of yet another account and password (which are easily forgotten, requiring creation of a new account).
I know that even on other wikis, I don't really feel like creating an account just to make a single edit. Rad Racer | Talk 02:06, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)