I just returned to this article and noticed that the discussion was closed. Some comments.

1. Please do not use votes (even if you call them "!votes!" when you close a discussion of any weight on Wikipedia. We don't vote. We hold discussions with a view to achieving consensus. Which we did here.

2. Thanks to the incredibly resourceful researchers who found sources that I could not.

-- TS 23:14, 3 September 2009 (UTC) reply