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Kirill Lokshin

Suffice it to say I'm glad you are back for more punishment service and will be among your many, ardent supporters. But I still can't fathom why you would want to...after all you were FREEEE MAAAAAN!-- R.D.H. (Ghost In The Machine) ( talk) 15:19, 21 November 2009 (UTC) reply

Voted to create the Wikipedia:Advisory Council on Project Development. Will have my Oppose vote. Who then was a gentleman? ( talk) 23:02, 24 November 2009 (UTC) reply
Yes and we all know how that terrible atrocity nearly destroyed all of Wikidom! It's a good thing vigilant Wikizans, such as yourself, with knee-jerk opposition, managed to destroy it before it was even given a chance to fail. Nonetheless, I'll be voting for Mr. Lokshin once again.-- R.D.H. (Ghost In The Machine) ( talk) 12:29, 1 December 2009 (UTC) reply
  • Tend toward support
I'm not 100% up to speed on the specifics, but I do look very favorably upon Kirill's willingness to, in essence, place himself on voluntary leave from Arbcom until he could stand for reconfirmation now.
Absolutely everyone has bad ideas. But all things being equal, it's infinitely easier to support someone if they have a proven track record of stepping aside if they suspect they've lose our trust. -- Alecmconroy ( talk) 19:42, 1 December 2009 (UTC) reply

Edit Analysis

A detailed analysis of this candidate's edits in article, user and project space can be found at User:Franamax/Ucontribs-2009/Kirill_Lokshin. Franamax ( talk) 06:37, 24 November 2009 (UTC) reply

Discussion of SilkTork's comment

Hmm, "neutral leaning oppose" sounds to me like "open to persuasion". I think you (and many others) misread the situation. I don't think Kirill was advocating an elite group to rule or control development. He (and others) saw a community paralyzed in indecision, unable to even propose reforms. They thought a group of handselected respected users of different wikipolitical stripes, if given some sort of vague moral opportunity to opine, could catalyze more productive discussion around important themes and potential reforms. Unfortunately, they misjudged the mood - rather than rallying around some sort of structure, the mob reacted negatively to the perception that someone could dictate, even though I see no evidence that was the intention. In retrospect, the attempt was an error in judgement - but in my mind a minor one compared to Kirill's pattern of solid contributions to the wiki. Martinp ( talk) 19:47, 9 December 2009 (UTC) reply

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This is the talk page for discussing a candidate for election to the Arbitration Committee.

Kirill Lokshin

Suffice it to say I'm glad you are back for more punishment service and will be among your many, ardent supporters. But I still can't fathom why you would want to...after all you were FREEEE MAAAAAN!-- R.D.H. (Ghost In The Machine) ( talk) 15:19, 21 November 2009 (UTC) reply

Voted to create the Wikipedia:Advisory Council on Project Development. Will have my Oppose vote. Who then was a gentleman? ( talk) 23:02, 24 November 2009 (UTC) reply
Yes and we all know how that terrible atrocity nearly destroyed all of Wikidom! It's a good thing vigilant Wikizans, such as yourself, with knee-jerk opposition, managed to destroy it before it was even given a chance to fail. Nonetheless, I'll be voting for Mr. Lokshin once again.-- R.D.H. (Ghost In The Machine) ( talk) 12:29, 1 December 2009 (UTC) reply
  • Tend toward support
I'm not 100% up to speed on the specifics, but I do look very favorably upon Kirill's willingness to, in essence, place himself on voluntary leave from Arbcom until he could stand for reconfirmation now.
Absolutely everyone has bad ideas. But all things being equal, it's infinitely easier to support someone if they have a proven track record of stepping aside if they suspect they've lose our trust. -- Alecmconroy ( talk) 19:42, 1 December 2009 (UTC) reply

Edit Analysis

A detailed analysis of this candidate's edits in article, user and project space can be found at User:Franamax/Ucontribs-2009/Kirill_Lokshin. Franamax ( talk) 06:37, 24 November 2009 (UTC) reply

Discussion of SilkTork's comment

Hmm, "neutral leaning oppose" sounds to me like "open to persuasion". I think you (and many others) misread the situation. I don't think Kirill was advocating an elite group to rule or control development. He (and others) saw a community paralyzed in indecision, unable to even propose reforms. They thought a group of handselected respected users of different wikipolitical stripes, if given some sort of vague moral opportunity to opine, could catalyze more productive discussion around important themes and potential reforms. Unfortunately, they misjudged the mood - rather than rallying around some sort of structure, the mob reacted negatively to the perception that someone could dictate, even though I see no evidence that was the intention. In retrospect, the attempt was an error in judgement - but in my mind a minor one compared to Kirill's pattern of solid contributions to the wiki. Martinp ( talk) 19:47, 9 December 2009 (UTC) reply


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